The Dark Knight Rises - Pre-release Discussion [** NO SPOILERS PLEASE **]

ricero

pixelburp wrote: »

Hmmm, is Bane in some sort of stock exchange? He's taking hostages by the looks of things anyway. I remember someone here mentioning Nolan dallied with the idea of using footage from the Occupy Wall St movement in the film, and the trailer does make allusions to a class struggle at large... I'm wondering if this is going to be the big theme of the film; might explain how Bane successfully takes control of the city I guess, that's it's all a more aggressive form of the Occupy fad.

Think you hit the nail on the head with your sypnosis there. i think this will be very much an extreme vision of the way people could turn during this global depression

NEScart

Another image:

TheDoc

Don't get the hangup on the costume.

The first costume was clunky and intentionally so, when reviewing Batmans movement and fighting it was powerful and emphasis severe blows.

The second film discussed the suit change within the plot, and Batmans movement and fighting was noticeably alot more fluid, built for more speed then power.

The new one looks to be a continuation on that theme. The suit is not as outlandish and makey up as you would imagine. I'll try find the link, but the outfit is a slight exageration of a new range of domestic law enforcement body armour, designed to allow the operator mobility and agility for navigating within the tight confined spaces of housing and apartment blocks that an urban environment provides, while also being able to withstand low calibre rounds most typically associated with the range of firearms found in domestic armed incidents.

Must dig up the link, I believe its being used in France, Portugal and in some areas of the U.S, and its not actually that far off the design your looking at.


Remember that there is no body armour so resistant and thin it can fit snug in the lining of suits and stock a 9mm round from causing lethal damage.

al28283

TheDoc wrote: »

Don't get the hangup on the costume.

The first costume was clunky and intentionally so, when reviewing Batmans movement and fighting it was powerful and emphasis severe blows.

The second film discussed the suit change within the plot, and Batmans movement and fighting was noticeably alot more fluid, built for more speed then power.

The new one looks to be a continuation on that theme. The suit is not as outlandish and makey up as you would imagine. I'll try find the link, but the outfit is a slight exageration of a new range of domestic law enforcement body armour, designed to allow the operator mobility and agility for navigating within the tight confined spaces of housing and apartment blocks that an urban environment provides, while also being able to withstand low calibre rounds most typically associated with the range of firearms found in domestic armed incidents.

Must dig up the link, I believe its being used in France, Portugal and in some areas of the U.S, and its not actually that far off the design your looking at.


Remember that there is no body armour so resistant and thin it can fit snug in the lining of suits and stock a 9mm round from causing lethal damage.

It's a bit silly to argue the realism of the suit when he has a cape he can glide with and boots he can attract bats with

Nikky_Bellic

paddy kerins wrote: »

Some new stills released

Whats the deal with the waistcoat on top of his combat jacket?

ricero

Nikky_Bellic wrote: »

Whats the deal with the waistcoat on top of his combat jacket?

bullet proof vest or something ? the chap still looks ****ing bad ass either way

Nikky_Bellic

ricero wrote: »

bullet proof vest or something ? the chap still looks ****ing bad ass either way

Looks well bad ass indeed

But its certainly not a bullet proof vest tho. Its odd. If you look at the tailoring of it, it really does look like a uniform waistcoat. The way it curls when it ends. Its out of place. Since he already has a jacket on. Its definitely scene related.

Dont mean to dwell into things so much :pac: But since it doesnt match his gear, but yet he is wearing it ... their is a reason for it. But I dont know why

spankmaster2000

Any word on what's up with Bruce's grey hair?

Is it stress-related?

Or will the film just take place over a very long period of time?

Handsome Bob

spankmaster2000 wrote: »

Any word on what's up with Bruce's grey hair?

Is it stress-related?

Or will the film just take place over a very long period of time?

There's 8 years between TDK and TDKR, plus yeah I'd imagine stress will also play a part.

Mickeroo

I was hoping for an Evil Dead II style colour change.

al28283

Mickeroo wrote: »

I was hoping for an Evil Dead II style colour change.

Batman with a chainsaw for a hand would be awesome

kronsington

Not much has been coming out recently apart from a few pics. Its understandable given how Avengers and to a lesser extent Prometheus have gone into promotional over-drive and they dont want their material being overlooked

krudler

pixelburp wrote: »

Hmmm, is Bane in some sort of stock exchange? He's taking hostages by the looks of things anyway. I remember someone here mentioning Nolan dallied with the idea of using footage from the Occupy Wall St movement in the film, and the trailer does make allusions to a class struggle at large... I'm wondering if this is going to be the big theme of the film; might explain how Bane successfully takes control of the city I guess, that's it's all a more aggressive form of the Occupy fad.

I'm guessing its inside whatever building himself and Bats have a scrap on the steps from the trailer?

syklops

al28283 wrote: »

It's a bit silly to argue the realism of the suit when he has a cape he can glide with and boots he can attract bats with

Both those things are perfectly plausible though. There's probably an iPhone app you can attract bats with. As for the cape, look up wing suits and Electro-active shape memory polymers. They do exist in the real world.

Baggly

Handsome Bob wrote: »

There's 8 years between TDK and TDKR, plus yeah I'd imagine stress will also play a part.

Thats plenty of time for him to train up some form of bird orientated protege....

Handsome Bob

Pter wrote: »

Thats plenty of time for him to train up some form of bird orientated protege....

Don't make me go searching for the old quotes from both Nolan and Bale on this subject. :pac:

I think JGL's character, John Blake, might help Bats though.

The Black Oil

Good interview with Nolan here.

Not all Batman, mostly his career, etc.

Thoms Yorkie Bars

New trailer is attached to The Avengers

Sad Professor

Thoms Yorkie Bars wrote: »

New trailer is attached to The Avengers

Only in the US though. We'll have to wait until it goes online a few days later.

Thoms Yorkie Bars

Sad Professor wrote: »

Only in the US though. We'll have to wait until it goes online a few days later.

Aye. But even so it's a good marketing move by WB, their entire target audience in one place

Mickeroo

Sad Professor wrote: »

Only in the US though. We'll have to wait until it goes online a few days later.

Glad its not on with The Avengers here, easier to avoid so.

krudler

Mickeroo wrote: »

Glad its not on with The Avengers here, easier to avoid so.

ha yeah, I'd be sitting in the cinema looking at the floor with my fingers in my ears :pac: seen enough of it in the teaser,prologue and theatrical trailer, no more!

Sad Professor

It's going to be in front of every single film on the run up to release, so good luck trying to avoid it. :pac:

krudler

Sad Professor wrote: »

It's going to be in front of every single film on the run up to release, so good luck trying to avoid it. :pac:

johnny_ultimate

Sad Professor wrote: »

It's going to be in front of every single film on the run up to release, so good luck trying to avoid it. :pac:

I'm actually having a fairly good run with avoiding trailers. Predominantly going to the IFI or festival screenings helps :P

Handsome Bob

I don't think anything has been too revealing. There's still plenty of mystery surrounding the characters and how exactly the story is going to play out.

I actually think the Prometheus trailers have given more away (especially the second trailer and it's international equivalent).

pixelburp

Handsome Bob wrote: »

I don't think anything has been too revealing. There's still plenty of mystery surrounding the characters and how exactly the story is going to play out.

I actually think the Prometheus trailers have given more away (especially the second trailer and it's international equivalent).

If that's true then I'm mightily glad I unsubbed from the thread here and imposed a boycott of media releases on myself. I'm still utterly oblivious about the details of this film, it's a great feeling

As for the Dark Knight Rises' material, I think it has been quite canny in its marketing promotions. No more than the previous film, the promos have played their cards quite close to their chest & people are still relatively ignorant of the more important details. I'd be surprised if a new trailer negated that.

johnny_ultimate

Handsome Bob wrote: »

I don't think anything has been too revealing. There's still plenty of mystery surrounding the characters and how exactly the story is going to play out.

I actually think the Prometheus trailers have given more away (especially the second trailer and it's international equivalent).

It's a shame mystery and surprise have become somewhat of a luxury rather than mandatory. I must admit I've taken to looking down at my phone during trailers of films I want to see.

I watched the early trailers of the Dark Knight, but haven't seen anything significant in a good few months. I certainly wouldn't watch the prologue under any circumstances. Call me old-fashioned, but I still like to see the increasingly rare films that truly warrant a blind watch - and there's an unusual amount this year, including Prometheus and Cabin in the Woods - as blind as possible. Spoiler and speculation culture online has grown somewhat out of hand IMO: I love discussing films in depth when I've seen them, but beforehand I just don't particularly see the point.

Sad Professor

I would expect the new trailer to reveal a lot more plot details. Nolan has probably been heavily involved in the marketing to date, hence the secrecy. However, usually by the time you get to the final trailer the director has been removed from the equation and the studio suits have taken over.

ADarkKnight88

Any reason why the trailer is not attached to the avengers here?
Was going to see the film in the cinema for that