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The road to a 1:2X Half Mara.....
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rainbow kirby wrote: »Something like this?
He'll have a lot of catching up to do on the rest of us. We should at least 2 pints in by the time he finishes (neither of which i'll be paying for)
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Brianderunner wrote: »He'll have a lot of catching up to do on the rest of us. We should at least 2 pints in by the time he finishes (neither of which i'll be paying for)
Some of you should be getting 4/5 in before I finish
But remember its a marathon session not a sprint .. no going home early!. 0 -
Brianderunner wrote: »He'll have a lot of catching up to do on the rest of us. We should at least 2 pints in by the time he finishes (neither of which i'll be paying for)
Sounds like Brian is planning on dropping out of marathon early 0 -
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TheRoadRunner wrote: »Sounds like Brian is planning on dropping out of marathon early
wouldn't be the first time.:D0 -
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shels4ever wrote: »
Have been thinking about the way things have gone in the past few days/weeks and the plan this year was to run as fast as I can for a marathon. That won't happen in Berlin now so i've decided skip berlin. Just cant face getting injured propper now and missing 3 months. So I will ease back into the running and run Dublin in 11 weeks time.
I know I could run Berlin and get around but that just doesn't appeal to me it's all or nothing. Maybe i'm just a bit up myself but I do think I can do better then just getting around.
Sorry to hear that, are you gonna go anyway? Any old tit can get around, your better than that.
Good luck with the Dublin training, just don't target 3'45, one of the pacers is about 3/1 to make it to the finish 0 -
Not going to set any targets from now on just going to see how the body holds up. Have talked the brother into running dublin now i think, so a sit and kick plan might have to be used.(I may need to site about 2 miles back at the 20 but still.)Brianderunner wrote: »Sorry to hear that, are you gonna go anyway? Any old tit can get around, your better than that.
Good luck with the Dublin training, just don't target 3'45, one of the pacers is about 3/1 to make it to the finish0 -
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shels4ever wrote: »Wed 17th
1 hour easy again, happy to be getting out each day now. All going well will start to build up from next week. But main thing is to keep running injury free.
Good to see your back running regularly again. You gonna do the frank duffy as a training run anyway? If your bro is running tell him to tie his shoelaces properly this year 0 -
Nope wont be doing it, didn't register for it once the calf started giving problems. Have a work party tomorrow so will have a few beers and will be found shouting abuse at the runner on the S bends for a few hours on Sat morning. Hope you don't get "ideas above your station" during the race as there will be a queue of people ready to point that outBrianderunner wrote: »Good to see your back running regularly again. You gonna do the frank duffy as a training run anyway? If your bro is running tell him to tie his shoelaces properly this year 0 -
Brianderunner wrote: »If your bro is running tell him to tie his shoelaces properly this year
Not running it this year. I've learnt to tie my laces properly now:D.0 -
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shels4ever wrote: »Thursday 18th
Started to get ideas of skipping the marathon altogether now and starting to build up some speed slowly, but another 500 easy miles in the legs will do me more good.
Might be a good idea to skip marathon however you should forget totally about speed work. The only reason you are injured is because you were running miles (chasing Gerard65 if the truth is known) at a faster than normal pace. If you look back at every injury you've recently had it's a result of doing something fast. I'm not saying don't ever do fast stuff again but you need to get into the condition where there is less stress on your calf while at the same time building the strength/flexibility of the calf muscle up. It might involve a 12 month outlook but it's the only way you will run faster. Don't believe me? Map out your PBs for the last 3-5 years and see if there have been any massive improvements.
You need to get consistent 50 mile weeks going again, at least if you have an end goal such as the marathon it keeps you focused and motivated. As I said skipping the marathon all together may not be a bad idea however as you could make the Waterford half marathon a new goal race. Would also mean your long runs needn't go over 13-15 miles a week.
I'm all about the tough love these days
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Yep that idea is on the table for sure, Had a very similar e-mail from a ghost from boards yesterday with similar advise.TheRoadRunner wrote: »Might be a good idea to skip marathon however you should forget totally about speed work. The only reason you are injured is because you were running miles (chasing Gerard65 if the truth is known) at a faster than normal pace. If you look back at every injury you've recently had it's a result of doing something fast. I'm not saying don't ever do fast stuff again but you need to get into the condition where there is less stress on your calf while at the same time building the strength/flexibility of the calf muscle up. It might involve a 12 month outlook but it's the only way you will run faster. Don't believe me? Map out your PBs for the last 3-5 years and see if there have been any massive improvements.
You need to get consistent 50 mile weeks going again, at least if you have an end goal such as the marathon it keeps you focused and motivated. As I said skipping the marathon all together may not be a bad idea however as you could make the Waterford half marathon a new goal race. Would also mean your long runs needn't go over 13-15 miles a week.
I'm all about the tough love these days
Pb's over the last few years ar muck to be honest, and I would expect that I'd run a pb from 3k to half marathon next week just of the base of the last couple of months. To be honest 50 mile weeks were becoming fairly easy and this week i'll run 40 mins with basically no effort.
My thinking on how to prevent the injury are fairly simple at the moment, drop another 10kg, I think the stress I put on my calf is to much to handle and a racing weight should be about 13'2 or lower , when i'm 14'3 at the moment. So what I was thinking was 50 mile weeks plus 2-3 horus on the bike each week. Should take care of that.
This along with stretching and a very slow introduction to faster running. Have been reading up alot on this and there isn't really a simple solution other then the gradual introduction speed. Starting with strides and introduction of hills. Ironically the things that cause the injury can also be the fix if introduce correctly.
Just for some fun here my last couple of years racing. Late 2009 was the best I have run in a while but that was due to marathon miles, again 2011 I would run pb's jsut of lots and lots of easy miles.
You know yoruself I'm not a huge fan of the Marathon, So have no problem in skipping that this year totally but do want to be getting a 15 mile run 3 out of ever 4 weeks.
Here are some of my current times.
2008 Raheny 5
48 mins (18 stone fat ****)
63 mins Bupa 10k
56 mins Bhaa
2009
half marathon 1:59
4 mile 28:40
5k 20:30
2 mile 12:34
3k 11:35
2010
10k 52 mins
nothing
2011
5 mile 35:18
What I think I can run now with a few weeks injury free running. (won't be trying this)
2 mile 12:10/20
4 mile 27:00
5 mile 33:30
Bring on the tough love, far to much sugar coated love on this board 0 -
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