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Understanding Street Fighter - Tips etc

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    #122
    bush
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,878 ✭✭✭bush


    The Hound wrote: »
    Blocking nulifies the option select. So whats wrong with blocking? Do people feel like they have to always press buttons or do dumb s##t on wake up!!?

    Blocking? What is this madness?


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    #123
    The Hound
    Registered Users Posts: 800 ✭✭✭The Hound


    Azza wrote: »
    Focus dash cancelling also nulifies the option select but still leaves you open for punishement.
    Yes in most cases but not with Akumatongue.gif


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    #124
    Fergus_
    Registered Users Posts: 2,888 ✭✭✭Fergus_


    The Hound wrote: »
    Blocking nulifies the option select. So whats wrong with blocking? Do people feel like they have to always press buttons or do dumb s##t on wake up!!?

    I'm guilty of this :p


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    #125
    Dreddybajs
    Registered Users Posts: 4,229 ✭✭✭Dreddybajs


    The Hound wrote: »
    Blocking nulifies the option select. So whats wrong with blocking? Do people feel like they have to always press buttons or do dumb s##t on wake up!!?

    preach it brother

    leaving yourself open to an option select means you've put yourself in a 50/50, blocking is 100/0 in your favour


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    #126
    Orim
    Registered Users Posts: 4,971 ✭✭✭Orim


    Dreddybajs wrote: »
    preach it brother

    leaving yourself open to an option select means you've put yourself in a 50/50, blocking is 100/0 in your favour

    Throws? But throws are cheap so I guess they don't count.


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    #127
    Doctor DooM
    Moderators, Music Moderators Posts: 25,868 Mod ✭✭✭✭Doctor DooM


    Orim wrote: »
    Throws? But throws are cheap so I guess they don't count.

    This is why you try a cr late os tech.


    Although, then again, if you consider OSes cheating AND throws to be cheating...


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    #128
    Dreddybajs
    Registered Users Posts: 4,229 ✭✭✭Dreddybajs


    Orim wrote: »
    Throws? But throws are cheap so I guess they don't count.

    I'm just talking about the actual jumpin attack itself, not the situation afterwards.


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    #129
    Azza
    Moderators Posts: 5,554 ✭✭✭Azza


    Guess the reason people attempt to do reversals on wake up is they fear the 50/50 that comes after blocking the jump in.


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    #130
    Ramza
    Registered Users Posts: 3,006 ✭✭✭Ramza


    I'm going to attempt X knowing full well that Y (said OS) puts me in a 50/50 position

    Or I can block and as Dreddy said, ultimately leave nothing against me in odds, just by blocking

    What comes after is up to you how you deal with it.


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    #131
    DarkTalant
    Registered Users Posts: 319 ✭✭DarkTalant


    FoamyMushroom wrote: »
    Need help with an ibuki combo.. cant find any other help around... its a long combo but damn worth it for stun.. it starts with TC4 Lp,mp,hp..

    Combo im lookin for is;

    lp,mp,hp,lp,mk,spin kicks,lp,mk,EX neckbreaker

    I just cant ever get the LP off of the spin kicks.. Plx help

    Spin kick loops are character specific, try it on abel.

    Also just TC4 lk spin kicks, lp, mk xx ender is better afaik.


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    #132
    FoamyMushroom
    Registered Users Posts: 599 ✭✭✭FoamyMushroom


    ^^^

    true that, Im just gonna stick with TC4,lp,mk neckbreaker, or ex. :(


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    #133
    EmSixTeen
    Registered Users Posts: 96 ✭✭EmSixTeen


    One thing I've noticed as (an admittedly bad) Ryu is that he doesn't seem to have any way to just keep constant damage on an opponent. Like, some characters, whoa, once they get in they just eat up my health bar like there's no tomorrow, but I don't really see that with Ryu (or know how to).

    I also wonder about what option selects he has.. I can't seem to do the 'Daigo' jump-in HK -> SRK one, and can't really see any others from a bit of searching.


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    #134
    bush
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,878 ✭✭✭bush


    Ryu has pretty good damage output in my opinion


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    #135
    Dreddybajs
    Registered Users Posts: 4,229 ✭✭✭Dreddybajs


    EmSixTeen wrote: »
    One thing I've noticed as (an admittedly bad) Ryu is that he doesn't seem to have any way to just keep constant damage on an opponent. Like, some characters, whoa, once they get in they just eat up my health bar like there's no tomorrow, but I don't really see that with Ryu (or know how to).

    I also wonder about what option selects he has.. I can't seem to do the 'Daigo' jump-in HK -> SRK one, and can't really see any others from a bit of searching.

    OS tatsu or sweep to catch backdashes, DP or EX DP generally to beat reversals (character-specific) - pretty much all you need I think.


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    #136
    prenelf
    Registered Users Posts: 90 ✭✭prenelf


    The thing I find about ryu is that he's more of an opportunitist when it comes to doing a lot of damage. Especially when you get your opponent in the corner. I try not to go all out and instead just look for a setup. 9 times out of 10 ryus will try to get you with cr.m kick into ex fireball then utlra. Its saved my ass more times then I can count. You could try finishing a combo with a h. tatsu and knock them into the corner and then work from there. If you get an opponent with a forward fierce and have no meter, try to combo off of it with a couple of cr. jabs, its the easist way to do it instead of a dp. Then finish with a cr. fierce into h. tatsu.


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    #137
    The Hound
    Registered Users Posts: 800 ✭✭✭The Hound


    Ryu has great damage output. Especially compared to some of the cast. he has great chances to land ultra especially when he has someone cornered and even mid screen. Why cant you land the os? Whats going wrong and who are you trying it on?


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    #138
    K.O.Kiki
    Registered Users Posts: 18,698 ✭✭✭✭K.O.Kiki


    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ISKfZgwRT4U


    Don't make me hate you, Dreddy.


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    #139
    Dreddybajs
    Registered Users Posts: 4,229 ✭✭✭Dreddybajs


    I was learning it last night, it's a lot easier than I thought. I can't do it nearly as consistently as desk though, maybe 2/3 times out of 10. Then again I'm not using the kara method as I was training it with hawk as I can't select zangief, I might be more consistent using that.


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