Petrol €132.9 Diesel €123.9

Macca3000

This was at a station in Kells.

It's a bit worrying the huge spike in prices so quickly. And by the looks of things it's only going to get worse. Oil is now trading at just below $83 a barrell for mid April delivery:(

cadaliac

Christ on a bike !!:eek:
Diesel €1.15 and (not sure petrol is €1.23) or so next to me (Cork)

Mc Love

Its the same at the Topaz station beside the Mid West Regional Hospital. Honestly dont know why anyone gets petrol there

Macca3000

Problem is, around Kells anyway, as soon as one goes up they all follow suit. Barely 2c in difference between all 5 stations. So shopping around won't be much help.

In fairness though it's the oil price that's the problem. Not much the shops can do about that.

Mimikyu

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lintdrummer

Macca3000 wrote: »

Problem is, around Kells anyway, as soon as one goes up they all follow suit. Barely 2c in difference between all 5 stations. So shopping around won't be much help.

In fairness though it's the oil price that's the problem. Not much the shops can do about that.

Whiffs of a cartel if you ask me. It's hardly like they all get a delivery on the same day, but as you say they won't wait to put up they're prices.

Mimikyu

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The_Conductor

Tesco in Maynooth is fairly local for me- but its normally at least 2-3c a litre more expensive than some of the other local alternates (e.g. Ted Castle in Celbridge, Maxol in Lucan etc). For about the first time ever its 2c cheaper than the next alternate. I filled up at 114.9 at the weekend......

testarossa40

:eek:
€132.9 & €123.9 a litre is one helluva spike to be sure...
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... or did you mean 132.9c & 123.9c

Bandara

This will be about the standard price in about a week I'd imagine. For example unleaded goes up 1.6c a litre wholesale at midnight tonight

L1011

smccarrick wrote: »

Tesco in Maynooth is fairly local for me- but its normally at least 2-3c a litre more expensive than some of the other local alternates (e.g. Ted Castle in Celbridge, Maxol in Lucan etc). For about the first time ever its 2c cheaper than the next alternate. I filled up at 114.9 at the weekend......

Wheres there a Top (Tedcastle) in Celbridge? Maxol, Esso and Tougher I know of, the Tougher can be cheap enough sometimes.

Tigger

Macca3000 wrote: »

This was at a station in Kells.

It's a bit worrying the huge spike in prices so quickly. And by the looks of things it's only going to get worse. Oil is now trading at just below $83 a barrell for mid April delivery:(

at that price it will cost me €6700 to fill the tank and i only get 550 miles
that is €700 a day on fuel.!!!

barochoc

Mc Love wrote: »

Its the same at the Topaz station beside the Mid West Regional Hospital. Honestly dont know why anyone gets petrol there

My experience on the road with Topaz is they're the most expensive fuel everywhere & I've no idea why people buy it. Shop around.

They charge on average 3-4c more than neighboring stations in any town. Can any one explain why?

I filled up in Tesco's Cashel @ 111.9c for diesel on Sunday!!! Hard to beat that.

Use pumps.ie for the cheapest fuel close to you & never fill up if you're heading down south in my opinion as you'll always find cheaper fuel. No idea why

Mr Benevolent

To be fair, the difference between petrol @ 124c and 128c is approx. €50 over a year for a standard 1.4L. The difference is about €120 per year if you compare 124c and 132c though.

I've seen some people go 6 miles out of their way to save 3c per litre on a 53L tank - although it's just cost them 75c to get there! Driving 6 miles to save 84c is not worth the hassle.

Macca3000

testarossa40 wrote: »

:eek:
€132.9 & €123.9 a litre is one helluva spike to be sure...
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... or did you mean 132.9c & 123.9c

Hah, yes my bad, I did of course mean 132.9c & 123.9c;)

gerrymadden1

Say thanks to the Green Party for their new taxes... petrol, diesel, home heating fuels, and before long, they'll have us paying for our water.

The Greens have systematically crucified the ordinary working (& unemployed) person.

Thankfully, they will never see a second term.

TestTransmission

Hammertime wrote: »

This will be about the standard price in about a week I'd imagine. For example unleaded goes up 1.6c a litre wholesale at midnight tonight

What

Absurdum

Hammertime wrote: »

This will be about the standard price in about a week I'd imagine. For example unleaded goes up 1.6c a litre wholesale at midnight tonight

I presume that'll be rounded up to 2c since it seems that every station prices fuel at xxx.9c per litre?

Flyer1

I love my diesel car. Its very green

Fiskar

gerrymadden1 wrote: »

Say thanks to the Green Party for their new taxes... petrol, diesel, home heating fuels, and before long, they'll have us paying for our water.

The Greens have systematically crucified the ordinary working (& unemployed) person.

Thankfully, they will never see a second term.

In reality, they are only implementing EU directive on said items!

Water is a favorite EU item, paid for in many states but not here!

Colonel Sanders

113.9c in Wexford for diesel at the weekend

Unfortunately I had paid 115.9c in Dublin before driving down :rolleyes:

questionmark?

Wow OP sounds like Rip off Republic in action. I was giving out about the price at my local pump at 123.9c but 132.9c that's a huge difference. Think Devils fuel was 113.9c.

Macca3000

questionmark? wrote: »

Wow OP sounds like Rip off Republic in action. I was giving out about the price at my local pump at 123.9c but 132.9c that's a huge difference. Think Devils fuel was 113.9c.

Lol, we all got to do our part. Unfortunatly as I said before I don't think there is much the different stations can do. Still a bit of healthy competition wouldn't go amiss.

Voodoomelon

Flyer1 wrote: »

I love my diesel car. Its very green

Shame it causes cancer and hurts my ears.

barochoc

Confab wrote: »

To be fair, the difference between petrol @ 124c and 128c is approx. €50 over a year for a standard 1.4L. The difference is about €120 per year if you compare 124c and 132c though.

I've seen some people go 6 miles out of their way to save 3c per litre on a 53L tank - although it's just cost them 75c to get there! Driving 6 miles to save 84c is not worth the hassle.

For some of us that refuse to pay for the owners (of the garage) nice shinny Merc it's not really hassle. I generally plan my routes well so I can top up with the cheaper fuel. But I have been known to make a trip when stuck if it was 3-4c cheaper. Even though I may not have saved I feel better for not lining the scroungers pockets & pay for his apartments all over Europe.

If I ran out of fuel or was going to, €1 top up would do me in a Topaz to get me to the next station. I don't understand their prices. Apparently your car goes further on their fuel, well that's true in one way for me.

I can't get far enough away from them in the first place!!

The_Conductor

MYOB wrote: »

Wheres there a Top (Tedcastle) in Celbridge? Maxol, Esso and Tougher I know of, the Tougher can be cheap enough sometimes.

Old Lucan road- before the cemetry? (unless I've gotten confused- which is possible). I thought that was a Top?

cadaliac

Macca3000 wrote: »

Lol, we all got to do our part. Unfortunatly as I said before I don't think there is much the different stations can do. Still a bit of healthy competition wouldn't go amiss.

What are you talking about? The refineries do not charge different prices to different stations.
Of course the stations can do something about it!
A fluctuation of 20c per liter between different stations is robbery. End of.
Yes, I know that different stations are bigger and have more overheads but you or anyone else simply cannot justify a price difference of (in some cases) more than 20c per liter. Madness.

daveyboy_1ie

http://www.pumps.ie/

I use this site regularly, I find it does help to narrow down the cheapest prices in my area.

testicle

Macca3000 wrote: »

In fairness though it's the oil price that's the problem. Not much the shops can do about that.

Yet when the oil price drops, the shops claim it is entirely different!

L1011

smccarrick wrote: »

Old Lucan road- before the cemetry? (unless I've gotten confused- which is possible). I thought that was a Top?

Thats the Tougher, it was a Statoil before.

neilthefunkeone

Been seeing that Tesco lately is usually more expensive than my local stations.. Im in Tallaght and last week my local Topaz was cheaper than Tesco..

Apple green seems like the cheapest but its 3-4 miles away.. pain in said ass..

91011

Here's the breakdown as of today's refinery prices

Cost from refinery Petrol 44c Diesel 42c (prices from Bloomberg.com)
Duty/NORA/ Carbon Tax Petrol 56.48c Diesel 47.02c
Distributor & Retailer margin combined 10c
Total Price Petrol 110.48c Diesel 99.02c
+ VAT means petrol will be retailing at 1.33 & diesel at 1.20 in the very near future.

On average a busy station gets 3 deliveries a week so prices can change in a locality very quickly.


To go further with price explanation - current refinery price is $2.27 per US Gallon (3.8 litres - smaller than UK gallon). Current exchange rate is $1.36.

Take 2.27, divide by 3.8, further dived by 1.36 and this equates to the euro price per litre that the refinery charges.

_Kaiser_

Going back to the OP, Kells is always overpriced anyway in my experience (pass through it daily).

Depending on where you're going there's a garage out in Oldcastle (on the Meath/Cavan border) that's always about 5c per litre cheaper than the norm.

Bigger problem is that after 11pm there's no petrol stations open between Navan and Cavan town.. wouldn't want to be stuck!

molloyjazz

barochoc wrote: »

For some of us that refuse to pay for the owners (of the garage) nice shinny Merc it's not really hassle. I generally plan my routes well so I can top up with the cheaper fuel. But I have been known to make a trip when stuck if it was 3-4c cheaper. Even though I may not have saved I feel better for not lining the scroungers pockets & pay for his apartments all over Europe.

If I ran out of fuel or was going to, €1 top up would do me in a Topaz to get me to the next station. I don't understand their prices. Apparently your car goes further on their fuel, well that's true in one way for me.

I can't get far enough away from them in the first place!!

I dont get people who do this, its plain retarded imho.. think about the environment ffs!

Bandara

Absurdum wrote: »

I presume that'll be rounded up to 2c since it seems that every station prices fuel at xxx.9c per litre?

No, after the vat is added the increase is 1.94 cents, so it will be rounded up by .06 of a cent.

Derv went up by just over half a cent. But that won't be passed on to customers.

Bandara

barochoc wrote: »

For some of us that refuse to pay for the owners (of the garage) nice shinny Merc it's not really hassle. I generally plan my routes well so I can top up with the cheaper fuel. But I have been known to make a trip when stuck if it was 3-4c cheaper. Even though I may not have saved I feel better for not lining the scroungers pockets & pay for his apartments all over Europe.

If I ran out of fuel or was going to, €1 top up would do me in a Topaz to get me to the next station. I don't understand their prices. Apparently your car goes further on their fuel, well that's true in one way for me.

I can't get far enough away from them in the first place!!

You are I presume aware that basically none of the petrol you buy goes towards paying for that shiny merc as the margins are miniscule. And that all garages will make more profit off their sales of bags of crisps in a year than they will off all their UNL and Derv sales combined ?

So you can keep topping up by a euro and then driving to the next garage. Just don't buy a bag of king to keep you going during the journey.

Bandara

cadaliac wrote: »

What are you talking about? The refineries do not charge different prices to different stations.

Yes they do


Of course the stations can do something about it!

No quite often they cannot

A fluctuation of 20c per liter between different stations is robbery. End of.

If you want to explain exactly why it's robbery I'll happily reply and prove EXACTLY why it isn't, or are you just ranting without any real knowledge of why garages fluctuate in prices?


Yes, I know that different stations are bigger and have more overheads but you or anyone else simply cannot justify a price difference of (in some cases) more than 20c per liter. Madness.

No it's very logical really.

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Bandara

barochoc wrote: »

My experience on the road with Topaz is they're the most expensive fuel everywhere & I've no idea why people buy it. Shop around.

They charge on average 3-4c more than neighboring stations in any town. Can any one explain why?

I filled up in Tesco's Cashel @ 111.9c for diesel on Sunday!!! Hard to beat that.

Use pumps.ie for the cheapest fuel close to you & never fill up if you're heading down south in my opinion as you'll always find cheaper fuel. No idea why

Topaz spent close to 300m euro on statoil/esso sites at the very height of the boom.

Their model is very flawed and they don't really have a clue what they are doing, which is obvious when you walk into one of their sites. They are really struggling

Saint_Mel

Nearly all the places in Athlone are in around the 1.17 mark for deisel. Had to fill up the other day and ended up almost doing a full circuit of town as there were queues to get into almost all the petrol stations

JHMEG

Topaz shouldn't exist in its current (massive) form, but are as a result of a monumental fsck up by the Competition Authority, who by their own admission were asleep on the job.

Kells is being bypassed soon isn't it? Maybe the petrol retailers are trying to make hay while the sun still shines?

_Kaiser_

JHMEG wrote: »

Kells is being bypassed soon isn't it? Maybe the petrol retailers are trying to make hay while the sun still shines?

True, in which case the three garages on the road to Virginia (one on the right just beyond the exit of the M3, and two at the Oldcastle/Cross junction) will be next in line to make a killing.

91011

Hammertime wrote: »

Topaz spent close to 300m euro on statoil/esso sites at the very height of the boom.

Their model is very flawed and they don't really have a clue what they are doing, which is obvious when you walk into one of their sites. They are really struggling

They also sold a lot of the excess sites to developers and the end net cost was substantially less.

Also 2/3rds of the topaz stations are independent garages that trade under the Topaz name - same as Maxol or in non fuel business similar to centra / supervalue / spar etc.

As above, less than 10c per litre goes to pay for storage of fuel in docks, trasferring to tankers, delivery to stations, marketing costs, distribution office costs, rent on stations, rates, staff, ultilities, drive aways etc.

It is NOT a profitable business unless you can sell sandwiches, lotto etc.

Mc Love

barochoc wrote: »

My experience on the road with Topaz is they're the most expensive fuel everywhere & I've no idea why people buy it. Shop around.

They charge on average 3-4c more than neighboring stations in any town. Can any one explain why?

Not exactly.

The one in Roxboro charges one of the lowest prices in the city

Voodoomelon

I used to watch petrol prices like a hawk, but no I couldn't give two hoots because every garage in my locality is within 2 cents per litre of each other.

Not only that, I've switched exclusively to Maxol E5 and haven't used anything else in over 6 months.
Will be filling up tomorrow, if its €1.32 i'll be looking at €110 for a fill.

mad dave

i dont know if he is still this cheap, but last friday i filled up at the small garage on the left heading out along mell on the slane road of drogheda. it's the one acrosss from aldi at the corner for the cement road. i have to give this lad credit as he had diesel at 110.9. i know the garage in kells that the op was on about and he seems like the dearest around at the moment.years ago, he was the cheapest in kells.it has always been the esso as the dearest(to compensate for the car showrooms).

TestTransmission

Voodoomelon wrote: »

Not only that, I've switched exclusively to Maxol E5 and haven't used anything else in over 6 months.

I'm the same,what differences have you noticed in power/economy?

Macca3000

mad dave wrote: »

i dont know if he is still this cheap, but last friday i filled up at the small garage on the left heading out along mell on the slane road of drogheda. it's the one acrosss from aldi at the corner for the cement road. i have to give this lad credit as he had diesel at 110.9. i know the garage in kells that the op was on about and he seems like the dearest around at the moment.years ago, he was the cheapest in kells.it has always been the esso as the dearest(to compensate for the car showrooms).

I have to go to Drogheda on Monday, I must check this out.
Also the Kells lad makes a killing on the lunchtime trade as students from both schools seem to congregate there. Pity he didn't keep his prices down, but it's hard to pull up there at the best of times.
Must try the oldcastle guy someone mentioned earlier.

Voodoomelon

TestTransmission wrote: »

I'm the same,what differences have you noticed in power/economy?

Not a whole lot to be honest, I did a full service around the time I started using it so the car was running great after anyways. Just getting it out of habit at this stage really, it seems to be the best available.

What about yourself?

TestTransmission

Voodoomelon wrote: »

Not a whole lot to be honest, I did a full service around the time I started using it so the car was running great after anyways. Just getting it out of habit at this stage really, it seems to be the best available.

What about yourself?

I would like to think Ive seen an increase in power,car was serviced last week so Its running much better now anyway.

Fizman

Voodoomelon wrote: »

Not only that, I've switched exclusively to Maxol E5 and haven't used anything else in over 6 months.
Will be filling up tomorrow, if its €1.32 i'll be looking at €110 for a fill.

I'm the same. Since getting the 2.0 TFSI I've been using this. I have one bad habit mind. Since I only have the car 5-6 weeks, I like to see what I am getting from brim to empty, and therefore on one or two occasions when I was in desperate need of fuel, I had to pull in somewhere else.

It gets annoying as I want the engine running off the optimum stuff all the time. I'll literally pay €5 at the emergency station until I get myself to a Maxol selling E5.

Heroditas

Fiskar wrote: »

In reality, they are only implementing EU directive on said items!

And the government still has the bare-faced cheek to say that we retain full control over our taxes.


Anyhoo, back to the subject in question, I'd always try and fill up in an Applegreen station. The two nearest to me are in Palmerston and the one near Rathcoole so I'd regularly be passing by them and fill up there.

Pity Superquinn aren't doing the 5c off petrol with Maxol. That was great before Christmas. I was only paying 113.9 or 114.9 for petrol.
I'll now be paying in the region of 130.9 now.