[Heritage] ITG: 141 Farewell and A39 Launch. Who is going?

Cookie_Monster · 09-03-2010 11:20pm

FlameoftheWest wrote: »

Pavee Point Railways?

:D:D

Judgement Day · 09-03-2010 11:24pm

Run_to_da_hills wrote: »

CIE Heritage Department ??

The turbulent priest referred to elsewhere in this thread. This is where he can be found - (station)master of all he surveys.

Cookie_Monster · 09-03-2010 11:27pm

The wizard of Inchicore is his grey tower

:D

steamengine · 09-03-2010 11:39pm

FlameoftheWest wrote: »

What is the Green thing in the middle?

That's the cab for the rocket train below !!!

dynamick wrote: »

10,000km/h US Army Rocket Sled

FlameoftheWest · 10-03-2010 12:36am

Cookie_Monster wrote: »

:D:D

But seriously what is the Pavee Point Railways thingy? I am Looking at it from the front or side? Isn't the propellor a bit small?

Was it some kind of portakabin for railway workers?

Run_to_da_hills · 10-03-2010 12:45am

FlameoftheWest wrote: »

But seriously what is the Pavee Point Railways thingy? I am Looking at it from the front or side? Isn't the propellor a bit small?

Was it some kind of portakabin for railway workers?

They use to be painted yellow and were hand operated.

steamengine · 10-03-2010 12:46am

FlameoftheWest wrote: »

But seriously what is the Pavee Point Railways thingy? I am Looking at it from the front or side? Isn't the propellor a bit small?

Was it some kind of portakabin for railway workers?

Think I saw it in operation back around 70's - thats the side view - cooling fan for the engine. A track inspection vehicle. Used to move at a reasonable speed too, 30/40 mph.

GM071class · 10-03-2010 12:41pm

steamengine wrote: »

Think I saw it in operation back around 70's - thats the side view - cooling fan for the engine. A track inspection vehicle. Used to move at a reasonable speed too, 30/40 mph.

Dead right, They were based on Caravans, and were just cobbled together.

Both Bord Na Mona, and CIE have used these in the past, and they have a few of the inspection cars, built by CIE, in Downpatrick. They look a bit tougher and bigger than the Bord Na Mona one in the photograph.

Am I the only one who thinks that they bear uncanny resemblance to the New Railcar Fleet of 22K's??.....

Cookie_Monster · 10-03-2010 12:42pm

GM071class wrote: »

Am I the only one who thinks that they bear uncanny resemblance to the New Railcar Fleet of 22K's??.....

:D:D

Maybe stretching it a bit far there

Judgement Day · 10-03-2010 12:52pm

GM071class wrote: »

Dead right, They were based on Caravans, and were just cobbled together.

Both Bord Na Mona, and CIE have used these in the past, and they have a few of the inspection cars, built by CIE, in Downpatrick. They look a bit tougher and bigger than the Bord Na Mona one in the photograph.

Am I the only one who thinks that they bear uncanny resemblance to the New Railcar Fleet of 22K's??.....

Not quite true, the ones at Dromod are indeed homemade (by Bord na Mona) but the standard gauge ones at Downpatrick were built by Wickham of Ware, UK, a long time builder of light weight rail vehicles in many different gauges. More info below.

http://www.inpressbooks.co.uk/wickham_of_ware_the_history_of_d_wickham_co_ltd_railcar_manufacturers_james_jnr_cooper_james_jnr_cooper_loxley_ford_i018211.aspx

GM071class · 10-03-2010 1:03pm

Judgement Day wrote: »

Not quite true, the ones at Dromod are indeed homemade (by Bord na Mona) but the standard gauge ones at Downpatrick were built by Wickham of Ware, UK, a long time builder of light weight rail vehicles in many different gauges. More info below.

http://www.inpressbooks.co.uk/wickham_of_ware_the_history_of_d_wickham_co_ltd_railcar_manufacturers_james_jnr_cooper_james_jnr_cooper_loxley_ford_i018211.aspx

I Recall seeing one in a book at some stage that was built by CIE. But It may have been a one off tester...

I'll keep an eye out for a picture of it,

Judgement Day · 10-03-2010 1:06pm

GM071class wrote: »

I Recall seeing one in a book at some stage that was built by CIE. But It may have been a one off tester...

I'll keep an eye out for a picture of it,

Even the nordies in their limited stock guide acknowledge Wickhams' as the builders: http://www.downrail.co.uk/locos.htm#wickham

Judgement Day · 10-03-2010 1:11pm

There is another one off inspection car operating on CIE/IE - built by Hugh Phillips Engineering Ltd., in Wales - and it carries the name "Jess" which it was supplied with! Curiously Hugh Phillips Engineering also went bust while dealing with CIE - the Midas touch once again.

This pic of Jess from the West on Track website. Ironic as it will probably be more than adequate for any traffic offering on the reopened WRC.

GM071class · 10-03-2010 2:13pm

Judgement Day wrote: »

There is another one off inspection car operating on CIE/IE - built by Hugh Phillips Engineering Ltd., in Wales - and it carries the name "Jess" which it was supplied with! Curiously Hugh Phillips Engineering also went bust while dealing with CIE - the Midas touch once again.

This pic of Jess from the West on Track website. Ironic as it will probably be more than adequate for any traffic offering on the reopened WRC.

That'll be more than adequate..

I tell you what, I'll get my hammers, some old bogies, a few lawn-mowers, and I'll meet you outside Caravan Sales in Ennis...

We'll make the perfect vehicles for Iarnród Éireann on the WRC...... 2 seat jobbies.. We'll tell them they were built in korea.. The CME loves that!

Now where'd I leave my hammers!!

lord lucan · 10-03-2010 2:36pm

GM071class wrote: »

That'll be more than adequate..

I tell you what, I'll get my hammers, some old bogies, a few lawn-mowers, and I'll meet you outside Caravan Sales in Ennis...

We'll make the perfect vehicles for Iarnród Éireann on the WRC...... 2 seat jobbies.. We'll tell them they were built in korea.. The CME loves that!

Now where'd I leave my hammers!!

I reckon this'll do.:D:D

GM071class · 10-03-2010 2:48pm

lord lucan wrote: »

I reckon this'll do.:D:D

Feck it, I really want one!!!

Rud · 11-03-2010 2:44am

Judgement Day wrote: »

There is another one off inspection car operating on CIE/IE - built by Hugh Phillips Engineering Ltd., in Wales - and it carries the name "Jess" which it was supplied with! Curiously Hugh Phillips Engineering also went bust while dealing with CIE - the Midas touch once again.

This pic of Jess from the West on Track website. Ironic as it will probably be more than adequate for any traffic offering on the reopened WRC.

i could be wrong but that looks like 722 whereas i thought Jess was 721?

http://railsceneireland.fotopic.net/p47242696.html

i could be highly mistaken though?

Judgement Day · 11-03-2010 11:48am

Rud wrote: »

i could be wrong but that looks like 722 whereas i thought Jess was 721?

http://railsceneireland.fotopic.net/p47242696.html

i could be highly mistaken though?

You are indeed correct - sorry - it is a Matisa inspection car built in 1994 not Jess. I am a 'reformed' railway enthusiast so not up to speed on some of the minutiae.

Stonewolf · 11-03-2010 1:27pm

Mostly a lurker from a different part of boards ...

but I thought this would fit in with the conversation (if not the topic).
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l4qttp6nDts

Judgement Day · 11-03-2010 1:39pm

Stonewolf - I like it, and the video would suit many C+T threads! These vehicles would be ideal for the WRC and they way CIE/IE are operating are what we will all be reduced to using outside the Pale in a few decades.

Run_to_da_hills · 11-03-2010 1:47pm

Stonewolf wrote: »

Mostly a lurker from a different part of boards ...

but I thought this would fit in with the conversation (if not the topic).
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l4qttp6nDts

Good solution for the Rosslare Warerford line.

Judgement Day · 12-03-2010 11:22pm

The trainspotters amongst you may be interested to know that "Jess" referred to earlier, and which had recently been lying in Enniscorthy station, has gone probably forever according to my source. A truck and crane loaded it for the UK earlier this week and off it went - very mysterious - of course it could turn up at Moyasta.

12-03-2010 11:50pm

Judgement Day wrote: »

The trainspotters amongst you may be interested to know that "Jess" referred to earlier, and which had recently been lying in Enniscorthy station, has gone probably forever according to my source. A truck and crane loaded it for the UK earlier this week and off it went - very mysterious - of course it could turn up at Moyasta.

It had a severe engine failure, might be going over to be repaired or maybe has been withdrawn?

Run_to_da_hills · 12-03-2010 11:58pm

Karsini wrote: »

It had a severe engine failure, might be going over to be repaired or maybe has been withdrawn?

There can't be too much involved to repairing what ever is wrong with that thing, the motor and drive train is probably standard.

Judgement Day · 13-03-2010 12:11am

Karsini wrote: »

It had a severe engine failure, might be going over to be repaired or maybe has been withdrawn?

I find it hard to believe that Inchicore, run down and all as it is, couldn't repair a yoke like that! The manufacturer went bust years ago so it hasn't gone back there.

Run_to_da_hills · 13-03-2010 12:48am

Judgement Day wrote: »

I find it hard to believe that Inchicore, run down and all as it is, couldn't repair a yoke like that! The manufacturer went bust years ago so it hasn't gone back there.

When you consider what was built there in the past its a disgrace, I doubt if they could even assemble a wheelbarrow today.

GM071class · 13-03-2010 3:48pm

Stonewolf wrote: »

Mostly a lurker from a different part of boards ...

but I thought this would fit in with the conversation (if not the topic).
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l4qttp6nDts

Reminds me of the NIR railbus up in Downpatrick...

lord lucan · 05-04-2010 6:53pm

Just thought i'd throw a couple of pics up of todays RPSI Easter train. They were taken just east of Leixlip Louisa Bridge this afternoon. Not the greatest weather for photography it has to be said.

shamwari · 05-04-2010 8:04pm

Lovely pics!

steamengine · 05-04-2010 11:38pm

Appreciate the photos - great location for taking photos too - got the following info courtesy of the RPSI website

LOCO DETAILS
[FONT=Arial,Helvetica][SIZE=+0]Class: J15[/SIZE][/FONT]
[FONT=Arial,Helvetica][SIZE=+0]Wheels: 0-6-0[/SIZE][/FONT]
[FONT=Arial,Helvetica][SIZE=+0]Company: Great Southern & Western Railway[/SIZE][/FONT]
[FONT=Arial,Helvetica][SIZE=+0]Designer: McDonnell[/SIZE][/FONT]
[FONT=Arial,Helvetica][SIZE=+0]Builder: Sharp, Stewart & Co., Atlas Works, Manchester[/SIZE][/FONT]
[FONT=Arial,Helvetica][SIZE=+0]Dates: 1879 (withdrawn 1964)[/SIZE][/FONT]
[FONT=Arial,Helvetica][SIZE=+0]Boiler: Z[/SIZE][/FONT]
[FONT=Arial,Helvetica][SIZE=+0]Boiler Diameter: 5’13/4”[/SIZE][/FONT]
[FONT=Arial,Helvetica][SIZE=+0]Cylinders: 18” X 24”[/SIZE][/FONT]
[FONT=Arial,Helvetica][SIZE=+0]Tractive Effort (lbs.): 17,170[/SIZE][/FONT]
[FONT=Arial,Helvetica][SIZE=+0]Total Weight (tons): 37.65[/SIZE][/FONT]
[FONT=Arial,Helvetica][SIZE=+0]Axle load (tons) 13.00[/SIZE][/FONT]

(The majority of J15's were actually built in Inchicore)

[Heritage] ITG: 141 Farewell and A39 Launch. Who is going?

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