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**2010 Trade Rumours/Speculation/Confirmations**
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tallaghtoutlaws wrote: »But this for Arm Candy Baby while I'm here. If you search for my posts on here I always said that yes BB did cheat during the Spygate how could anyone deny it. But to say without proof he did for all 3 Superbowl wins is just ridiculous. But that is another threads story unless you want to debate it with me again outside of the spygate issue just push that PM button.
That's all well and good and tbh I'd have a similar opinon but my point was firstly, if you're defending the value that BB gives the league, you can't just dismiss out of hand the cheating he did in the past and call anyone who would use it as a strike against him a clown. It's one of the most important things to consider. It's not the "Is it cheating/how serious was it" discussion again, rather his overall contribution to the league that Leslie1 was questioning. And secondly, it just seems like any time the topic of BB and cheating comes up you are the one who's the instigator or at least in the middle of the discussion.
Anyway personally, as much as I dislike him, drafting, free agency, coaching and strategy are all top notch...
Keep him around I say. It's good for rivalries and pats are a fascinating team as a result. 0 -
ArmCandyBaby wrote: »That's all well and good and tbh I'd have a similar opinon but my point was firstly, if you're defending the value that BB gives the league, you can't just dismiss out of hand the cheating he did in the past and call anyone who would use it as a strike against him a clown. It's one of the most important things to consider. It's not the "Is it cheating/how serious was it" discussion again, rather his overall contribution to the league that Leslie1 was questioning. And secondly, it just seems like any time the topic of BB and cheating comes up you are the one who's the instigator or at least in the middle of the discussion.
Anyway personally, as much as I dislike him, drafting, free agency, coaching and strategy are all top notch... Keep him around I say. It's good for rivalries and pats are a fascinating team as a result.
Firstly I have never started arguments about the cheating and secondly I am Pats fan. Of course im going to bloody defend them in some degree why wouldn't I be in the middle of the conversation. So your argument on that point is ridiculous.
The reason I say people are clowns because I am a firm believer that he is not the only Coach using methods that are outside the NFL boundaries. He was just unlucky to be caught. He wasn't the first to be questioned about his handling of situations and he wont be the last. One would be naive to think he is the ONLY ONE in the league cheating in some way or other. The Raiders under John Madden were well know for bending the rules and no one ever made a big deal about their shenanigans. Anyways Im done on this as i have said all of this before and I was told that I was wrong and BB is the only cheat in the NFL blah blah blah :rolleyes:
And one last point you touched on. His contribution to the league? Where did leslie mention this in any of his arguments? If he had of I would have responded to it. Besides What has that got to do with anything anyway? What do you measure as contributing to the League? Wins? Losses? Players he groomed? Tell on what level of contribution you want to discuss.0 -
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http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/news;_ylt=AvLR6RwHFj8spHtXJ3Npd205nYcB?slug=ap-jaguars-kampman&prov=ap&type=lgns
Jaguars sign Aaron Kampman
thank god we got some help on the D-Line 
sports.yahoo.com wrote:JACKSONVILLE, Fla. (AP)—The Jacksonville Jaguars used veterans, rookies, former first-round draft picks and a few undrafted guys in hopes of generating consistent pass rush last season. Even with different schemes, various blitzes and some new faces, nothing really worked.
The Jaguars finished with a franchise-low 14 sacks in 2009, the fifth-lowest total in NFL history.
Owner Wayne Weaver, general manager Gene Smith and coach Jack Del Rio all vowed to revamp the defensive line, knowing the team stood little chance of making the playoffs without more quarterback pressure.
They may have found a solution with two-time Pro Bowler Aaron Kampman(notes). The 30-year-old defensive end signed with the Jaguars on Sunday, giving the small-market franchise a big-time boost to their pass-rush woes.
Jacksonville, which also elevated its special teams with the signing of Kassim Osgood(notes) this weekend, targeted Kampman before free agency began Friday. The Jaguars hoped to land Kampman or former Tennessee defensive end Kyle Vanden Bosch(notes), who signed a four-year contract worth $26 million with Detroit.
Kampman’s deal could be similar. Although he is coming off a torn anterior cruciate ligament in his left knee, Kampman is a year younger than Vanden Bosch, and despite playing in just nine games in 2009, finished with half a sack more than his counterpart.
The signing of Kampman also sent a strong message to former first-round draft pick Derrick Harvey(notes) and second-rounder Quentin Groves(notes), who both struggled in their two seasons.
Kampman, who has 54 sacks, emerged as one of the NFL’s elite pass rushers in recent years, recording a total of 37 sacks from 2006-08, but struggled in 2009.
Under new defensive coordinator Dom Capers last season, Kampman was asked to switch from a 4-3 defensive end to 3-4 outside linebacker—a significant change that would require him to learn the nuances of rushing the quarterback from a standup position instead of as a down lineman, and occasionally drop into pass coverage.
While Kampman never publicly complained about changing positions and coaches said his work ethic never wavered, it was clear that he wasn’t particularly enthusiastic about making the switch.
Kampman gradually became more comfortable with his new position but wasn’t nearly as productive as a pass rusher, tallying only 3.5 sacks before his injury.
Kampman sat out Green Bay’s Nov. 15 win over Dallas because of a concussion — the first game he missed because of an injury since 2003. He returned to face San Francisco the following week, but sustained a season-ending knee injury.
Packers coaches said they hoped to re-sign Kampman in the offseason, and expressed optimism that he would continue to progress as an outside linebacker. But Kampman was widely expected to field free agent offers from 4-3 teams.
“Obviously I’ve gotten used to this 3-4,” Kampman said in January. “I didn’t get a chance to get a full year to critique and say, ‘Hey, this is great.’ But I was starting to get more comfortable with it. Having said that, I have a lot of experience in the 4-3. I think that I can do both.”
Kampman had surgery Dec. 4, and said in January he was “very encouraged” by his progress in rehabilitation and expects to be ready to hit the field in training camp.
“Things have gone very, very well,” Kampman said. “I’m very thankful.”0 -
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