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Head Shop Fire

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    #32
    Pace2008
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    BZP has already been banned.


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    #33
    Auvers
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,987 ✭✭✭Auvers


    matt-dublin wrote: »
    http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/news/article2421820.ece

    Daniel took two or three pills at a housewarming party last May — then used Ecstasy the next day,
    Mr Urpeth said: “BZP does not cause fatalities on its own - it is only about a tenth the strength of Ecstasy.
    “But it appears to cause death in conjunction with Ecstasy.”

    I think you will find that he consumed an illegal drug the day after taking BZP (which is banned in Ireland)


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    #34
    8k2q1gfcz9s5d4
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,616 ✭✭✭8k2q1gfcz9s5d4


    matt-dublin wrote: »
    and i think what theyll do is ban the shops from selling anything that can be taken to alter mind state, then you're drugs are gone.

    simple as

    simple as?

    so were banning pubs/clubs, coffee, red bull, pain killers?
    Pace2008 wrote: »
    BZP has already been banned.

    but he was my fav AH poster! dam you mods


    as long as i have "cake" im happy
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X2TO_loTP8M


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    #35
    Co45
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    Sarah** wrote: »
    This is the only link i can find to a teenage death resulting from Legal Highs....

    http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/life_and_style/health/expert_advice/article6989754.ece

    Mephedrone was ruled out as the cause of death in that case.


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    #36
    Co45
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    matt-dublin wrote: »
    http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/news/article2421820.ece

    I knew you would post that.

    Quess what, he took BZP, survived. Then the next night took illegal ecstasy and died. The coroner said mixing them might have caused the death

    Oh and BZP is illegal anyway.


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    #37
    Run_to_da_hills
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    Fire fighters have been called to the scene of a large fire at three shops on Dublin’s Capel St.

    One of the premises affected is the Nirvana "head shop". Seven units of the Dublin Fire Brigade are attending the blaze.

    AA Roadwatch warned there is also poor visibility along the North Quays, and a smell of smoke is lingering over the city.    .

    Anyone off their trollies this morning. :p

    http://www.irishtimes.com/newspaper/breaking/2010/0212/breaking86.html?via=mr


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    #38
    The Master
    Moderators, Category Moderators, Music Moderators Posts: 14,308 CMod ✭✭✭✭The Master


    Threads merged


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    #39
    DJ_U4EA
    Closed Accounts Posts: 62 ✭✭DJ_U4EA


    matt-dublin wrote: »
    couple of kids were killed after taking herbal ecstasy this year, heart attacks and seizures from what i remember.

    and i think what theyll do is ban the shops from selling anything that can be taken to alter mind state, then you're drugs are gone.

    simple as

    Its this kind of fantastical bull**** scaremongering that makes it hard to have a reasonable debate about this issue. FYI, any death attributed to legal highs has in all cases involved a cocktail of alcohol and other "illegal" subtsances. Add to that the stupidity and naievety of some people and you have a disaster scenario.

    Also, you're idea on how to close the head shops is so ridiculous you might want to have a think about it again. How many deaths does alcohol cause per year? No one on the zealot side of the arguement wants to answer that because its the white elephant in the room.

    We have a major problem in Ireland, that some people just can't **** off and allow people to live their own lives and make their own choices. Its endemic in this society, reflected by the clueless anti-drug zealots ringing Joe Duffy and the ill informed, ill thought out opinions of the crusader himself. People would do themselves a favor by concentrating on their own lives and stop piously preaching to others on how to live theirs.


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    #40
    c0rk3r
    Registered Users Posts: 1,256 ✭✭✭c0rk3r


    DJ_U4EA wrote: »
    legal highs

    Wouldn't a more suitable name be "loophole highs".


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    #41
    funk-you
    Registered Users Posts: 2,743 ✭✭✭funk-you


    Birneybau wrote: »
    I never made an explicit connection between the two..

    -Birneybau

    There was implication but I gave the benefit of the doubt. Hence the second part of my post. You're fairly articulate for being 'off your tits' though.

    -Funk


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    #42
    Bucklesman
    Registered Users Posts: 636 ✭✭✭Bucklesman


    *Coughs*

    I saw smoke on Capel Street from the bus, and had my camera handy...

    Pics here. :cool:


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    #43
    Birneybau
    Registered Users Posts: 10,234 ✭✭✭✭Birneybau


    funk-you wrote: »
    There was implication but I gave the benefit of the doubt. Hence the second part of my post. You're fairly articulate for being 'off your tits' though.

    -Funk

    Im a high-functioning addict..(pardon the pun)
    Helps me get through the day..

    -Birneybau


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    #44
    stevenmu
    Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 9,689 Mod ✭✭✭✭stevenmu


    Username-in-use wrote: »
    Wouldn't a more suitable name be "loophole highs".

    No, that implies that that there is some quirk or mistake in the law which allows these, but this is not correct. In our legal system pretty much everything is legal unless it is explicitly made illegal. These substances are not in any way illegal, therefore they are entirely legal, not semi-legal or in a grey area. They are simply not illegal

    (yet)


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    #45
    DominoDub
    Registered Users Posts: 1,572 ✭✭✭DominoDub


    Speaking on Newstalk FM, Nirvana's owner Jim Bellamy suggested the fire had been started deliberately following widespread coverage of a campaign against the proliferation against head shops.
    “Somebody has taken the law into their own hands by the disgusting media coverage of the last month or so,”

    “We have been tried by the media, found guilty – and this is the sentence”.


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    #46
    dilallio
    Registered Users Posts: 2,728 ✭✭✭dilallio


    I wonder if the fire was anything like this ...

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KsIa3u2egvE


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    #47
    Auvers
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,987 ✭✭✭Auvers


    Drop the Dead Donkey :D

    loved that show


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    #48
    rovert
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 23,089 ✭✭✭✭rovert


    Sounds too convient

    Dont trust hippies


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    #49
    Stercus Accidit
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    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_SyurgZ8GaQ


    Frankly on the back of these (real) government measures, I'm going to buy some of this head shop fake marijuana, just to try it.

    I'll see what all the fuss is about, and if I don't like it, I'll get drunk and beat someone up.


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    #50
    c0rk3r
    Registered Users Posts: 1,256 ✭✭✭c0rk3r


    stevenmu wrote: »
    No, that implies that that there is some quirk or mistake in the law which allows these, but this is not correct.

    Errr you think that if they weren't disguised as "bath salts" (etc) and removed the "NOT FOR HUMAN CONSUMPTION" they would be legal ?


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    #51
    InKonspikuou2
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    A lot of other industries use the chemicals that go into these products so it's difficult to ban them without other reprecussions. And since the law must be specific they can't ban all mind altering substances. The chemical composition will just be changed and then it would take another 3 plus months to try ban that one. And then the process repeats itself. It's unwinnable to try ban head shops.


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    #52
    Lord Nikon
    Registered Users Posts: 3,609 ✭✭✭Lord Nikon


    I missed the flames but I got a shot of the remains.
    89ab43c8.jpg


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    #53
    xzanti
    Moderators, Entertainment Moderators Posts: 10,437 Mod ✭✭✭✭xzanti


    It was attached to another shop which is of particular interest in this forum.. Come.. sit down :)

    http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2055826178


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    #54
    rovert
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 23,089 ✭✭✭✭rovert


    Business lesson: websites dont burn down


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    #55
    GLaDOS
    Moderators, Regional East Moderators Posts: 23,210 Mod ✭✭✭✭GLaDOS


    rovert wrote: »
    Business lesson: websites dont burn down
    Tell that to Australia

    Cake, and grief counseling, will be available at the conclusion of the test



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    #56
    bonerm
    Closed Accounts Posts: 8,595 ✭✭✭bonerm


    Nooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo!!!!!


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    #57
    mikom
    Closed Accounts Posts: 16,391 ✭✭✭✭mikom


    It was said that you could hear the screams of a thousand sex dolls as the fire raged.


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    #58
    General Zod
    Registered Users Posts: 2,661 ✭✭✭General Zod


    Where will I get this months edition of "luke-warm Belgian magazine" now?


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    #59
    tony231974
    Registered Users Posts: 160 ✭✭tony231974


    What ! Where will I get all my naughty things? :confused:


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    #60
    AnonoBoy
    Closed Accounts Posts: 22,559 ✭✭✭✭AnonoBoy


    matt-dublin wrote: »
    alll of those legalised products are soon to become illegal after several deaths

    Matt you do know you're talking in untruths don't you?


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    #61
    bonerm
    Closed Accounts Posts: 8,595 ✭✭✭bonerm


    neuromancer wrote: »
    I missed the flames but I got a shot of the remains.
    89ab43c8.jpg

    That is water being sprayed on the shop, right? :confused:


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