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TV Licence - ALL TV licence discussion/queries in this thread.

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  • Registered Users Posts: 352 ✭✭lisij


    Elmo wrote: »
    AFAIK and others might help with this.

    The licence only covers the tuner that exists in a VCR, PVR, STB, TV and other such devices regardless of if that device is capable of receiving over the air signals. E.g. if you have a UPC or Sky Box connect up to a monitor your still liable for the licence fee.

    You do not need a Licence for Radio.
    no i do not own any upc sky boxes or any other tv companies tuners whats so ever
    well i guess ill wait and see what Tv license have to say to me


  • Registered Users Posts: 352 ✭✭lisij


    oh, one more thing :) would appleTv need a tv license ??? :) funny question


  • Registered Users Posts: 23,641 ✭✭✭✭Elmo


    lisij wrote: »
    oh, one more thing :) would appleTv need a tv license ??? :) funny question

    No but apple know how to drag the money out of you, really need to buy some shares in that company $10billion used to buy up shares and pay dividends chic ching$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,204 ✭✭✭Recon


    I've a quick question about the TV license and if I have to get one. I do have a TV that is connected to my Xbox. It is only used for playing DVDs and computer games. We do not have Sky, UPC, an aerial on the roof, bunny ears or anything like that, and nothing else besides the Xbox has ever been connected to the TV.

    Any advice on what I can do?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,178 ✭✭✭STB


    Recon wrote: »
    I've a quick question about the TV license and if I have to get one. I do have a TV that is connected to my Xbox. It is only used for playing DVDs and computer games. We do not have Sky, UPC, an aerial on the roof, bunny ears or anything like that, and nothing else besides the Xbox has ever been connected to the TV.

    Any advice on what I can do?

    Once the TV has the capability (ie an onboard tuner) you need a licence. It is not based upon what you or dont do with the TV (imagine trying to police that!)

    If you feel strongly about it, buy a monitor.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,563 ✭✭✭leeroybrown


    As far as the law is concerned once you have a TV with a tuner you must pay the license regardless of whether it's in use or even broken. Once it's original purpose was to receive a TV signal you have to pay the license.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,204 ✭✭✭Recon


    Do the new LCD TVs have tuners? Can that be removed?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,563 ✭✭✭leeroybrown


    Recon wrote: »
    Do the new LCD TVs have tuners? Can that be removed?
    Almost all LCD TVs have some form of tuner. It's pretty rare to find a TV without a tuner and they're generally slightly dearer because businesses will pay the premium for them to avoid the ongoing cost of a TV license if they don't need one. If the TV was originally fitted with a tuner in the factory then legally you're liable for the license fee even if you modify it to remove it.

    Pretty soon the TV license will be a household charge levied on all houses (already indicated by the government) so I wouldn't go to much expense to avoid paying it as your solution probably wouldn't last for long.


  • Registered Users Posts: 32,417 ✭✭✭✭watty


    It's a computer monitor if it has no tuner. ALL TVs have a tuner. That's what's the difference between and TV and a monitor.

    There are thus no TVs without tuners.

    There are some specialist PAL monitors in the past for CCTV, Home Computer (BBC, Atari, Amiga) and Broadcast (i.e. no tuner so not a TV). These are pretty much obsolete and unobtainable now.

    Cheap computer monitors have HDMI and no tuner, they are not TVs. Proper really high resolution monitors don't rely on HDMI as HDMI/HDTV is LOWER resolution than professional Computer monitors 10 years ago.


  • Registered Users Posts: 93 ✭✭PammyD


    Once you have a tv or aerial on/in your house a tv licence is needed.... Regardless what you use ur tv for..


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  • Registered Users Posts: 33,709 ✭✭✭✭Cantona's Collars


    Recon wrote: »
    I've a quick question about the TV license and if I have to get one. I do have a TV that is connected to my Xbox. It is only used for playing DVDs and computer games. We do not have Sky, UPC, an aerial on the roof, bunny ears or anything like that, and nothing else besides the Xbox has ever been connected to the TV.

    Any advice on what I can do?

    Let me guess,the license inspector called round.You have a tv,you need a license even if you just use it for gaming or dvd's.They are changing the license charge to make sure everyone pays so you won't escape paying.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,204 ✭✭✭Recon


    zerks wrote: »
    Let me guess,the license inspector called round.You have a tv,you need a license even if you just use it for gaming or dvd's.They are changing the license charge to make sure everyone pays so you won't escape paying.

    Nope, no inspector yet, just have the renewal notice in front of me and curious about the need to pay for a service for the year that I will never use, have absolutely no interest in using and have no ability to use even if I decided I wanted to (as mentioned above, we've no aerial, satellite box or cable for a tv signal).

    But if I've no choice about the matter I'll just have to suck it up and pay for it I suppose.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,293 ✭✭✭Fuzzy Clam


    Recon wrote: »
    Nope, no inspector yet, just have the renewal notice in front of me and curious about the need to pay for a service for the year that I will never use, have absolutely no interest in using and have no ability to use even if I decided I wanted to (as mentioned above, we've no aerial, satellite box or cable for a tv signal).

    But if I've no choice about the matter I'll just have to suck it up and pay for it I suppose.

    If you've received a renewal notice, it sounds like you've already had a licence. No?
    You do have a choice (for now anyway). Get rid of the TV:)


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,204 ✭✭✭Recon


    Fuzzy Clam wrote: »
    If you've received a renewal notice, it sounds like you've already had a licence. No?
    You do have a choice (for now anyway). Get rid of the TV:)

    Just expired.

    Not much of a choice getting rid of the tv to be fair, it all just seems very unfair to have to pay €160 for something that I won't use when money is already tight enough as it is.


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,959 ✭✭✭Jesus Shaves


    Recon wrote: »
    Just expired.

    Not much of a choice getting rid of the tv to be fair, it all just seems very unfair to have to pay €160 for something that I won't use when money is already tight enough as it is.

    just say you have no t.v


  • Registered Users Posts: 33,709 ✭✭✭✭Cantona's Collars


    Recon wrote: »
    Nope, no inspector yet, just have the renewal notice in front of me and curious about the need to pay for a service for the year that I will never use, have absolutely no interest in using and have no ability to use even if I decided I wanted to (as mentioned above, we've no aerial, satellite box or cable for a tv signal).

    But if I've no choice about the matter I'll just have to suck it up and pay for it I suppose.

    You do know that you don't have to pay it in one lump sum? The first time you get one you have to pay in full but after that you can buy tv license stamps at the post office.It's a handy way to pay it off bit by bit rather than stumping up €160 all at once.


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,959 ✭✭✭Jesus Shaves


    you can pay it by direct debit in 4 instalments of €40 each


  • Registered Users Posts: 237 ✭✭ur mentor


    Recon wrote: »
    I've a quick question about the TV license and if I have to get one. I do have a TV that is connected to my Xbox. It is only used for playing DVDs and computer games. We do not have Sky, UPC, an aerial on the roof, bunny ears or anything like that, and nothing else besides the Xbox has ever been connected to the TV.

    Any advice on what I can do?

    pay until October.. then your TV wont be able to receive the analogue signal as they will be turning it off. it seems to me that will be a good defence then. as long as you dont have a digital feed or some internet connection..


  • Registered Users Posts: 32,417 ✭✭✭✭watty


    No, it won't be, An analogue TV still needs a licence after October. A 405 line TV still needs a licence and indeed people are using them on Freeview via an Aurora.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,249 ✭✭✭kbell


    PammyD wrote: »
    Once you have a tv or aerial on/in your house a tv licence is needed.... Regardless what you use ur tv for..

    You do not need a licence if there is an aerial on your property.
    Read the other posts.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,563 ✭✭✭leeroybrown


    kbell wrote: »
    You do not need a licence if there is an aerial on your property.
    Read the other posts.
    You'll probably find that it depends on the inspector. Some will be happy once there's no tuner present, others will summons you. It's just a revenue generating mess after all...


  • Registered Users Posts: 164 ✭✭arcius


    Any person in occupancy at an address where a television set is held (make attention what the word "held" means) is legally responsible for the licensing of the television set regardless of ownership of either the premises or the set itself. Television set is an electronic device that can receive television signals and display them on a screen. So means if you have a TV you must pay a TV licence and it doesn't matter if you watch a television or not.


  • Registered Users Posts: 13,990 ✭✭✭✭Johnboy1951


    Recon wrote: »
    Just expired.

    Not much of a choice getting rid of the tv to be fair, it all just seems very unfair to have to pay €160 for something that I won't use when money is already tight enough as it is.

    Do not pay the licence; instead dispose of the TV .... maybe someone would give you €25 for it.

    Use the €160 and the €25 to buy a monitor.

    Better picture and no need for a licence.

    ;)


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,915 ✭✭✭cursai


    Got a call at the door from the TV licence inspector half an hour ago. Told him I have a licence (still have one for my old address). He asked me to change it over. I said no thanks, I don't intend to re_register. No hard feelings etc. he was a very rude sod.
    He didn't get my name. And he put a letter in the door stating 'our TV licence inspector could get attention blah blah blah'.
    He told me I'd be receiving correspondence from them
    But sure if they don't know who I am. What can they do?


  • Registered Users Posts: 86 ✭✭xxpopopxx


    Ok so a guy called to my apartment today and said he was with an post to check for a tv license, but since I was on my own and due to my paranoia of having my previous house being broken into twice, I kinda panicked and just said "I have a tv license, it's fine thanks" and hung up on the buzzer thing since I wasn't comfortable letting some stranger in when I'm on my own.

    I know it's silly of being scared of the guy but ever since we got broken into the two times, I've always been scared whenever some randomer calls to our house. But thinking back now he probably really was a tv license inspector :/ What will happen now if I just ignored him like that ? Oh and we do have a tv license by the way.


  • Registered Users Posts: 23,641 ✭✭✭✭Elmo


    You should prob ring An Post to see if they had any TV licence inspectors around your area, just in case it wasn't a TV licence inspector.


  • Registered Users Posts: 631 ✭✭✭Wcool


    Does anyone know of a comany that sells a TV type product without any tuner inside the set? Basically a big dumb monitor? Bigger than 42 inches?
    And if not, is it possible to buy a normal TV and have someone remove the TV tuner bit in a legal way, in such a way that the inspector is satisfied?

    I am seriously considering going the internet way (like I did with my phone a long time ago) but am put off by the size of the screens.
    Logically the set should even be cheaper - if it is made at all!


  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 19,362 Mod ✭✭✭✭Sam Russell


    It is likely that the TV licence will be absorbed by the household charge in the next few years and will not depend on having a TV.

    Large screen monitors are used in advertising such as in supermakets and in public spaces. Not sure of the video standard used. Price is likely to be uncompetitive as there is little competition. [Obvious really]


  • Registered Users Posts: 631 ✭✭✭Wcool


    Thanks for the tip, didn't think about that. I understand it will probably cost more.

    It makes sense to move the TV licence into some tax as it would save costs, but this might be years away. Even if it is 3 years away it would save about 500 euro. Good thing is: I just need to buy TV tuner/decoder if I ever want to go back to a 'normal' telly.

    An Post does not want to lose the TV licence business either and will argue that it needs the business in order not to go under :) Just like they don't allow zip codes.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 20,894 ✭✭✭✭Stark


    Price is likely to be uncompetitive as there is little competition. [Obvious really]

    Also, if it's intended for use with a computer, the resolution would be a lot higher than a standard TV.


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