The Six Nations General Banter Thread. *Read Mod Warning. Post no.5*

anonymous_joe

Judgement Day wrote: »

I don't Lee Byrne's absence will make any difference to the outcome at Twickenham and if anyone is going to be thumped on the day it's Wales. So much depends on whether Jonny Wilkinson starts ahead of Flood or they could both start.

Eh?

That Welsh team could tear anyone apart if they wanted.

thomond2006

Wales coach Warren Gatland will reveal his team to face England at Twickenham during a special Scrum V RBS Six Nations preview programme.

Join Scrum V presenter Gareth Lewis for the announcement on BBC TWO Wales at 1800 GMT on Sunday.

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wixfjord

**** thats early! Hook at fb? Id love to see martin roberts get a go at sh, think hes going to be very good.

thomond2006

For Italy match:

Healy
Cronin
Hayes
POC
DOC
Ferris
Wallace
Heaslip
Boss
Sexton
Earls
D'Arcy
BOD
Bowe
Kearney

Best / Flannery
Court (Horan looked good in the A match though)
Cullen
SOB (again played well in A game)
TOL
ROG
Trimble

Stev_o

Replace Court with Ross, having Court covering TH would be a disaster.

Podge_irl

I'd start Best, other than that I can't argue.

Would seriously toy with the idea of starting Ross in some of the games though if it was up to me.

danthefan

I'd start Rory Best after today's game. Horan didn't do enough to force his way back in, SOB for the bench, Stringer and Buckley for the glue factory.

wixfjord

Id start best and horan, cant see why youd put such an inexperienced front row up against the best scrummagers in the 6n. Hayes scrummaging has disimproved aswell I feel so that lineup could be a disaster.

Id start Boss and O Gara, but think it will be TOL and O Gara.

danthefan

How could anyone justify starting Horan? If it's not Healy it should be Court.

SomeFool

I'd have Ryan on the bench instead of Cullen, Ross instead of Court and I'd start Best ahead of Cronin.

Podge_irl

SomeFool wrote: »

I'd have Ryan on the bench instead of Cullen

Why?

thomond2006

I would err on the side of caution with Best, plus I really want to see Cronin start for Ireland.

danthefan

thomond2006 wrote: »

I would err on the side of caution with Best, plus I really want to see Cronin start for Ireland.

Best has come through a couple of games now, he's said he's had no trouble with his neck, the only issue now is match fitness.

Podge_irl

thomond2006 wrote: »

I would err on the side of caution with Best, plus I really want to see Cronin start for Ireland.

If Best only has 40 min in him though it's much better to see him starting then on the bench. I think Cronin certainly has to be involved though, I can't imagine it would be wise going into the game with Flannery and Best.

danthefan

Podge_irl wrote: »

If Best only has 40 min in him though it's much better to see him starting then on the bench. I think Cronin certainly has to be involved though, I can't imagine it would be wise going into the game with Flannery and Best.

I think he was withdrawn with a view to next week, don't think it was that he only had 40 mins in him.

TheGod

danthefan wrote: »

Stringer and Buckley for the glue factory.

Hilarious

SomeFool

Podge_irl wrote: »

Why?

He covers back and second rows, he has a future ahead of him, if it was an away game in Stade de France then yeah I'd go with Cullen but I'd like to see a couple more players integrated over the 6 nations.

TheGod

My team

1.Healy
2.Best
3.Hayes
4.O'Connell
5.O'Callaghan
6.Ferris
7.Wallace
8.Heaslip
9.Boss
10.Sexton
11.Trimble
12.D'arcy
13.O'Driscoll
14.Bowe
15.Kearney

16.Cronin
17.Court
18.Cullen
19.O'Brien
20.Reddan or O'Leary (I really don't care theyre both woeful right now)
21.O'Gara
22.Earls

SomeFool

Originally Posted by danthefan
Stringer and Buckley for the glue factory.

TheGod wrote: »

Hilarious

Dispespectful, particularly to Stringer who was a stalwart for years, everybodies time comes mate, no need for that comment.

Podge_irl

SomeFool wrote: »

He covers back and second rows, he has a future ahead of him, if it was an away game in Stade de France then yeah I'd go with Cullen but I'd like to see a couple more players integrated over the 6 nations.

He's also not getting any meaningful game time and has in no way progressed as a player despite his great potential. I'd very much like to see him as a viable sub, but he's just not at the moment. It's pretty rare to have to replace two backrowers anyway and I don't think an ability for your lock replacement to cover backrow is all that important.

TheGod

SomeFool wrote: »

Dispespectful, particularly to Stringe who was a stalwart for years, everybodies time comes mate, no need for thet comment.

Firstly I didn't make that comment. Secondly no disrespect to Stringer (who I had stated before this game should be starting ahead of O'Leary at Munster and who I would love at Leinster) I was merely laughing at how the post was worded.

TheGod

Podge_irl wrote: »

He's also not getting any meaningful game time and has in no way progressed as a player despite his great potential. I'd very much like to see him as a viable sub, but he's just not at the moment. It's pretty rare to have to replace two backrowers anyway and I don't think an ability for your lock replacement to cover backrow is all that important.

Add to that that if either a backrower or second row went down I'd much prefer O'Brien or Cullen to come on than Ryan. Having an extra sub won't make up for the risk of Ryan coming on against France in the 6N.

danthefan

TheGod wrote: »

Firstly I didn't make that comment. Secondly no disrespect to Stringer (who I had stated before this game should be starting ahead of O'Leary at Munster and who I would love at Leinster) I was merely laughing at how the post was worded.

I made the comment, I wasn't trying to be offensive, more light-hearted. Sorry if it didn't go down well.

thomond2006

Six Nations preview show on ScrumV, tonight BBC2 Wales 6pm.

Can be found in "other channels" on Sky afaik.

danthefan

So basically, having watched the 'A' game and seen what the various players with a chance of starting next week came up with, I would go with:

Kearney
Bowe
BOD
D'Arcy
Trimble
Sexton
TOL (though I think Boss is in better form)
Heaslip
Wallace
Ferris
DOC
POC
Hayes
Best
Healy

Flannery (Cronin if he's injured), Court, Cullen, O'Brien, Boss, ROG, Earls


Horan didn't do enough, Boss is the form 9 in Ireland imo but seems way off the radar, Buckley and Stringer shouldn't be near the Ireland 22 though I fear both will be picked, SOB did well but so did Henry so either could be the call for the bench, D'Arcy is the form 12 so that leaves no room for Wallace in the 22 imo, Trimble is flying so I'd start him ahead of Earls.

2040

Trimble's been very good, though i'm between two minds whether him or earls should get the 11 shirt.

For Italy though, Trimble all the way. See what he can do in green.

I do think he's a bit Monye-esque though. That could be considered complimentary or derogatory, or both.

wicklowwonder

I feel team to start will be

Healy
Best
Hayes
POC
DOC
Ferris
Wallace
Heaslip
O'Leary
O'Gara
Earls
BOD
Darce
Bowe
Kearney

Flannery (only due to injury feel both hookers will get a half each but Flannery will be 1st choice once fit)
Horan
Cullen (hopefully not Mick O'D)
Stringer
Sexton
Trimble

Team I would choose is

Healy
Flannery (if he can play 80 mins)
Ross (Hayes to old and Ross and Court seem only likely solutions)
POC
DOC
Ferris
Wallace
Heaslip
Boss
Sexton
Bowe
Darce
Bod
Horgan
Kearney

Best
Court
Cullen/O'Brien
Reddan/Oleary both not in great form
O'Gara
Earls

I feel kidney should work on his forward for the 6 nations with an eye on WC. Hayes, Wallace and maybe one out of POC and DOC may not make the next world cup through injury retirement etc. we need viable options who can step in! the backs will look after themselves with so much talent coming through he should pick the backs on merit and form!!

spear thrower

Is Isaac Boss really playing that well that a lot of you would start him on Saturday?(havent seen much of him lately)

He was useless a couple of years ago and i was expecting him to drop off the radar but fair play to him for digging deep and pushing for a starting place in a World Class team..

Podge_irl

spear thrower wrote: »

Is Isaac Boss really playing that well that a lot of you would start him on Saturday?(havent seen much of him lately)

He was useless a couple of years ago and i was expecting him to drop off the radar but fair play to him for digging deep and pushing for a starting place in a World Class team..

Yes, he is. He's playing an awful lot better and everyone else is playing quite poorly.

wicklowwonder

spear thrower wrote: »

Is Isaac Boss really playing that well that a lot of you would start him on Saturday?(havent seen much of him lately)

He was useless a couple of years ago and i was expecting him to drop off the radar but fair play to him for digging deep and pushing for a starting place in a World Class team..

boss oly had one maybe two bad games for ireland his other performances is the green jersey were very good. This year i have only seen highlights mainly and a two games but boss has performed very well and is better form than bout reddan and oleary and should get the chance to play against italy show kidney what he is about, we can never have too many options i think!