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''Next'' friday - when is it?

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    #92
    OnTheBalls
    Closed Accounts Posts: 97 ✭✭OnTheBalls


    It's simple really. Friday is the nearest Friday. Next friday is usually 8 or more days away. When one says Friday it can never be interpreted as anything more than 7 days way. The one exception is if it's thursday. To refer to the day after the current day you say tomorrow. Friday in this sense means in 8 days. Only use next friday when refering to a timespan greater than a week.


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    #93
    Sofiztikated
    Registered Users Posts: 6,995 ✭✭✭Sofiztikated


    Wait, whats happening on friday?

    Everytime I look at the word Next now, I think its spelt wrong.


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    #94
    OutlawPete
    Closed Accounts Posts: 17,689 ✭✭✭✭OutlawPete


    o1s1n wrote: »
    I've just read this whole thread and the word 'Friday' has been used so many times it has now lost all meaning in my head. .

    LMAO :D

    For me it wasn't the word 'Friday' that lost all meaning .. it was the word 'Next'.

    I started thinking 'Next' is a funny word .. you never really think about it having an X in it .. :D

    I swear this thread has me near madness :o


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    #95
    Dacelonid
    Registered Users Posts: 1,112 ✭✭✭Dacelonid


    As someone has already said
    This Friday (or just Friday) -> Friday of this week
    Next Friday -> Friday of next week

    same as
    This weekend -> The end of this week
    Next weekend -> The end of next week

    simple, no????


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    #96
    Elba101
    Registered Users Posts: 578 ✭✭✭Elba101


    Dacelonid wrote: »
    As someone has already said
    This Friday (or just Friday) -> Friday of this week
    Next Friday -> Friday or next week

    same as
    This weekend -> The end of this week
    Next weekedn -> The end of next week

    simple, no????


    Spot on there :D


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    #97
    Dublin_Gunner
    Registered Users Posts: 7,692 ✭✭✭Dublin_Gunner


    Jay P wrote: »
    Ha! The poll says coming!


    No it doesn't.

    Unless the poll is based on the fact that the least amount of votes wins...

    **Edit - actually both possible outcomes mention 'coming' you need to be more pacific lol


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    #98
    OutlawPete
    Closed Accounts Posts: 17,689 ✭✭✭✭OutlawPete


    Dacelonid wrote: »
    Next Friday -> Friday or next week

    If this is not a Typo I'm even more consnuffled than before :)


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    #99
    Elba101
    Registered Users Posts: 578 ✭✭✭Elba101


    OutlawPete wrote: »
    If this is not a Typo I'm even more consnuffled than before :)


    Obvious typo. No confusion needed.


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    #100
    Dacelonid
    Registered Users Posts: 1,112 ✭✭✭Dacelonid


    OutlawPete wrote: »
    If this is not a Typo I'm even more consnuffled than before :)

    Damn those fingers of mine, but yes it is a typo


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    #101
    Victor_M
    Registered Users Posts: 1,608 ✭✭✭Victor_M


    dub_skav wrote: »
    The next president meaning not this one but the one after, the next item on the list meaning not this one but the one after.
    So, if people accept that the term "this Friday" makes sense, then logically next Friday must mean the one after this friday

    So if you are at the top of a queue and next is shouted, do you let the person behind you go?


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    #102
    ElaElaElano
    Registered Users Posts: 1,508 ✭✭✭ElaElaElano


    It's a shíte film.


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    #103
    Dublin_Gunner
    Registered Users Posts: 7,692 ✭✭✭Dublin_Gunner


    Victor_M wrote: »
    So if you are at the top of a queue and next is shouted, do you let the person behind you go?


    No, but you don't skip the person in front of you, as 'next' being after the person they were just serving.

    Don't be getting ahead of yourself now!


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    #104
    Manic Moran
    Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 16,285 Mod ✭✭✭✭Manic Moran


    If you were at the top of a queue, and the person serving said "Next!", wouldn't you be a little p*ssed off if the person behind you went to them to be served.

    Doesn't work that way. It's a sort of quantum physics thing. You can be, but not be, at the same time. For example given of standing in line: The cashier has a customer at the checkout. Using 'this' makes sense, because it is an ongoing state: The cashier has a customer, and is moving onto the next customer.

    However, if I am speaking on a Tuesday, it is not a Friday. There is no 'current' status. You are speaking not on a past Friday, a current Friday, or a Friday yet to come. You are on a sort of fourth dimension, an aberration in linearity. Heaven help us, it's a tear in the space-time continuum.

    Thus, the 'this' extends beyond the day, because we cannot be within that day: It's a Tuesday! Instead, the 'this' now applies to the week. Thus, 'This Friday' refers to "The Friday of this week in which we currently think we exist." 'Next Friday' is "The Friday which is a day in the week which is to come after this one" (A week being defined by the next seven days: The Mon-Sun thing is a simple convention, not universally followed. For example, check out how many TV guides run Sun-Sat.)

    NTM


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    #105
    OutlawPete
    Closed Accounts Posts: 17,689 ✭✭✭✭OutlawPete


    Manic Moran wrote: »
    Doesn't work that way. It's a sort of quantum physics thing. You can be, but not be, at the same time. For example given of standing in line: The cashier has a customer at the checkout. Using 'this' makes sense, because it is an ongoing state: The cashier has a customer, and is moving onto the next customer.

    However, if I am speaking on a Tuesday, it is not a Friday. There is no 'current' status. You are speaking not on a past Friday, a current Friday, or a Friday yet to come. You are on a sort of fourth dimension, an aberration in linearity. Heaven help us, it's a tear in the space-time continuum.

    Thus, the 'this' extends beyond the day, because we cannot be within that day: It's a Tuesday! Instead, the 'this' now applies to the week. Thus, 'This Friday' refers to "The Friday of this week in which we currently think we exist." 'Next Friday' is "The Friday which is a day in the week which is to come after this one" (A week being defined by the next seven days: The Mon-Sun thing is a simple convention, not universally followed. For example, check out how many TV guides run Sun-Sat.)

    NTM

    What that setltles it so.

    This Friday coming is 'Next friday' .. I knew it :D


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    #106
    Victor_M
    Registered Users Posts: 1,608 ✭✭✭Victor_M


    The poll is relatively evenly split, funny how different people think it means different things, I'd never have guessed so many people would have seen it from the other perspective. Is there any resource where the official correct way can be found? I'll change the way I say it if someone can point to an official definition of next Friday.


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    #107
    Helix
    Closed Accounts Posts: 17,661 ✭✭✭✭Helix


    this friday is the coming friday because its in this coming seven day period
    next friday is the following one because its in next seven day period


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    #108
    OutlawPete
    Closed Accounts Posts: 17,689 ✭✭✭✭OutlawPete


    Helix wrote: »
    next friday is the following one because its in next seven day period

    But it's not the 'next' Friday.

    The 'next' Friday we have is 'this coming Friday'.

    That's the 'next' one.


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    #109
    Sam Vimes
    Registered Users Posts: 21,611 ✭✭✭✭Sam Vimes


    OutlawPete wrote: »
    But it's not the 'next' Friday.

    The 'next' Friday we have is 'this coming Friday'.

    That's the 'next' one.

    So why do you say "next Friday" at all? I say "next Friday" to differentiate it from "this Friday".

    Both of the interpretations are grammatically valid, people are either talking about the next Friday that we'll hit or the Friday of next week but the former makes the word next unnecessary and confusing so why use it?


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    #110
    Helix
    Closed Accounts Posts: 17,661 ✭✭✭✭Helix


    OutlawPete wrote: »
    But it's not the 'next' Friday.

    The 'next' Friday we have is 'this coming Friday'.

    That's the 'next' one.

    no, the friday youre talking about is friday, or this friday


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    #111
    robinph
    Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 24,092 Mod ✭✭✭✭robinph


    OutlawPete wrote: »
    But it's not the 'next' Friday.

    The 'next' Friday we have is 'this coming Friday'.

    That's the 'next' one.

    Correct, it is "The next Friday" it is not "Next Friday" though, they are two different days.


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    #112
    OutlawPete
    Closed Accounts Posts: 17,689 ✭✭✭✭OutlawPete


    Sam Vimes wrote: »
    So why do you say "next Friday" at all? I say "next Friday" to differentiate it from "this Friday".

    But that's not 'next' Friday .. that's Friday week.

    Friday coming is 'this Friday' to me.

    I don't use the word 'next' in that context at all.

    Im just saying that grammatically, it is incorrect :)


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    #113
    OutlawPete
    Closed Accounts Posts: 17,689 ✭✭✭✭OutlawPete


    Helix wrote: »
    no, the friday youre talking about is friday, or this friday

    I agree and that's what I say.

    I say these things ..

    Next Week
    This Week
    Friday Week
    This Friday
    Friday Fortnight


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    #114
    m5ex9oqjawdg2i
    Closed Accounts Posts: 11,221 ✭✭✭✭m5ex9oqjawdg2i


    What about "friday after next"?


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    #115
    OutlawPete
    Closed Accounts Posts: 17,689 ✭✭✭✭OutlawPete


    robinph wrote: »
    Correct, it is "The next Friday" it is not "Next Friday" though, they are two different days.

    'Next Friday' is NOT a set date.

    Nobody is wrong here.

    If you mean 'This Friday' when your say 'Next Friday' .. you are right.

    If you mean 'Friday Week' when your say 'Next Friday' .. you are also right.

    "Right" in the context that it's 50/50 what people believe you mean.

    Not "Right", in that it is grammatically correct though - as it is not.

    'Next Friday' will always be the "Next" one that is coming.

    That's the "next" one and that's the end of it :p

    The solution is to NOT use the word NEXT when refering to specific days.

    Use 'This Friday' and 'Friday Week' .. problem solved :)


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    #116
    **Timbuk2**
    Moderators, Education Moderators, Motoring & Transport Moderators Posts: 7,395 Mod ✭✭✭✭**Timbuk2**


    Next Friday describes the next time it will be Friday, i.e. the coming Friday.

    If you want to describe next week, it is Friday week.

    Actually, fcuk this. In future, nobody is allowed to use the words 'next' or 'Friday'. From now on, we just communicate in dates.


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    #117
    Beasty
    Administrators, Social & Fun Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 76,094 Admin ✭✭✭✭✭Beasty


    This is what I like about AH. 116 posts, getting on for 2,000 views in about 6 hours, and over 200 voters can't make their mind up what is right.

    For my 2c, I would say Friday the 11th is this Friday, Friday the 18th is next Friday. I would also say Sunday the 13th is this Sunday, but Monday the 14th is next Monday!!

    So my conclusion is there is no conclusive answer.


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    #118
    OutlawPete
    Closed Accounts Posts: 17,689 ✭✭✭✭OutlawPete


    **Timbuk2** wrote: »
    Next Friday describes the next time it will be Friday, i.e. the coming Friday.

    If you want to describe next week, it is Friday week.

    Exactly!

    It is my belief that the word 'Next' in context with time was first used to decribe 'Weeks', 'Months' and 'Years'.

    Some fool then decided to start using it to differentiate between coming days and so chaos ensues.


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    #119
    Sam Vimes
    Registered Users Posts: 21,611 ✭✭✭✭Sam Vimes


    OutlawPete wrote: »
    But that's not 'next' Friday .. that's Friday week.

    Friday coming is 'this Friday' to me.

    I don't use the word 'next' in that context at all.

    Im just saying that grammatically, it is incorrect :)

    It's not incorrect, this Friday is the Friday of this week and next Friday is the Friday of next week, both are grammatically fine. But even if it was grammatically incorrect, using "next Friday" to mean the same thing as "this Friday" or just "Friday" is pointless and confusing. Either you should use it to mean the Friday of next week or you shouldn't use it at all and should use one of the many other ways to indicate the coming Friday.

    It's good to see that you already do that :)


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    #120
    robinph
    Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 24,092 Mod ✭✭✭✭robinph


    The fact that it doesn't make grammatical sense is part of the poiint. The english language has evolved over centuries inorder to make it as difficult as possible for foriengers to be able to understand it. As the native speakers also don't understand it half the time either just goes to prove how good it is at confusing people. :D


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    #121
    Jax Teller
    Closed Accounts Posts: 8,763 ✭✭✭Jax Teller


    Next Friday means next weeks Friday , otherwise people should just say Friday


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