''Next'' friday - when is it?

banquo

This always bothered me. I I say 'next customer', 'take the next left' or 'the next time...', I do not mean the one after next. No rational person would. Equally, next friday should mean this coming friday, 11/12.

Why do people, when it comes to dates, think that next = the one after next? Is it a culchie thing?

Kiera

Next Friday is the Friday coming.

Friday week is the following Friday. Its pretty simple really.

biko

Next = not this one, the one after.
Like Friday week.

Turd Ferguson

I agree and when I say "next Friday" I mean this coming Friday, but I asked some guy about why he used it in the other way and he said he means next Friday like Friday next week. Weird

hooradiation

This Friday = 11/12
The Next Friday = 18/12

and usually the 'the' gets dropped, as we are want to do, leading to it being "Next Friday".

Its pretty simple really.


and now I've used the word 'next' so much it's lost all meaning, cheers banquo.
Don't worry, Macbeth will deal with you.

MrStuffins

Kiera wrote: »

Next Friday is the Friday coming.

Friday week is the following Friday. Its pretty simple really.

Exactly!

I try to avoid saying "Next Friday" Because it causes confusion.

This morning i said "Next Wednesday" and my friend said "Tomorrow"?

My fault i guess, but doesnt he think i'd have said Tomorrow instead? :rolleyes:

dub_skav

But you can say - "I'm going to the pub on Friday" with no qualifier of next and people will know exactly what you mean. So the addition of next should logically mean something different.

Your examples all require a qualifier of next for them to make sense, so in a way you have disproved your own argument.

Note: The above may or not be gibberish and will probably be torn apart by anybody giving this 2 minutes thought

Victor_M

Next:
following: immediately following in time or order; "the following day"; "next in line"; "the next president"; "the next item on the list"


Next Friday is 3 days away (today being Tuesday), this is not a confusing concept.

WindSock

I say 'this' Friday.

And to not add to confusion I'll say not this Friday but the next one.

Mars Bar

For me it's:

Next Friday = Friday coming

Friday after that = Friday week, or the following Friday.

K-Ren

This is one of the things that seriously annoys me.

The eleventh of December, is THIS Friday. This week. This month. This year.

The eighteenth of December, is NEXT Friday. Next week. Next month. Next year.

I cannot understand why people say things like "Friday week" or "The coming Friday".

dub_skav

Victor_M wrote: »

Next:
following: immediately following in time or order; "the following day"; "next in line"; "the next president"; "the next item on the list"


Next Friday is 3 days away (today being Tuesday), this is not a confusing concept.

The next president meaning not this one but the one after, the next item on the list meaning not this one but the one after.
So, if people accept that the term "this Friday" makes sense, then logically next Friday must mean the one after this friday

WindSock

Friday

Next Friday

Isn't Friday a wierd word when you look at it?

FlutterinBantam

Victor_M wrote: »

Next:
following: immediately following in time or order; "the following day"; "next in line"; "the next president"; "the next item on the list"


Next Friday is 3 days away (today being Tuesday), this is not a confusing concept.

Quite correct.

The fact that some gimps might think that it is the Friday after next should not be your concern

If those people want to use their own language and grammar, well ,hey, better off without them.

Cannot understand how this stupid concept came from.

Like those frikken Doobs who can't say 't'.

Zulu

Next Friday isn't this one, is it!?!
This Friday.
Next Friday.
Simples.

pickarooney

The closer you are to Friday the more likely 'next Friday' is the Friday of the following week. If you said it on Thursday, I imagine most people would understand it to mean in 8 days time.

And Flut, put away that apostrophe will you before you have someone's eye out.

DOC09UNAM

FlutterinBantam wrote: »

Quite correct.

The fact that some gimps might think that it is the Friday after next should not be a concern of your's.

If those people want to use their own language and grammar, well ,hey, better off without them.

Cannot understand how this stupid concept came from.

Like those frikken Doobs who can't say 't'.

I 100% agree, it's just fooking annoying when you tell someone that you're doing something "next friday", and they reply, "you lazy bastard, why do you've to wait a week", and i'm like, LOLWOT.

banquo

It's not simple. You can't use the word next to mean one thing in every circumstance other than time.

Next customer.
Take the next left.
Next time this happens, boy...
The next song is...

These all mean the one immediatly coming. But oh no, when it comes to a coming day we've got this 'simple rule of ''well, actually, in this one particular instance next actually means the one after next''. How can next mean one after next?!

Messed up, circular reasoning at its worst tbh.

banquo

K-Ren wrote: »

This is one of the things that seriously annoys me.

The eleventh of December, is THIS Friday. This week. This month. This year.

The eighteenth of December, is NEXT Friday. Next week. Next month. Next year.

I cannot understand why people say things like "Friday week" or "The coming Friday".

No it isn't. The next friday that happens, i.e. the next time it will be friday, is friday the 11nth. Do we discount this friday for some reason? Or is there a hidden, magic friday between now and then that I don't know about?

It's the next friday that happens.

DOC09UNAM

banquo wrote: »

No it isn't. The next friday that happens, i.e. the next time it will be friday, is friday the 11nth. Do we discount this friday for some reason? Or is there a hidden, magic friday between now and then that I don't know about?

It's the next friday that happens.

If i was to say next friday the 13th for instance, would it be the next friday the 13th?? or the one after that,

some people are just set in their ways and wont listen to reason anyway!!

4zn76tysfajdxp

I say "this Friday" for a few days from now, and "next Friday" for the following Friday. I know it doesn't make sense, I must be mental.

robinph

I'd guess that the next refers to the week rather than the day:

This Friday - the Friday in this week
Next Friday - the Friday in the next week

krudler

Oh this wrecks my head,when i say next Friday i mean the 18, not in 3 days time, thats THIS friday! if i say "we'll do that next friday" that means the week after next, otherwise i'd just say "we'll do that friday"

uncleoswald

DOC09UNAM wrote: »

I 100% agree, it's just fooking annoying when you tell someone that you're doing something "next friday", and they reply, "you lazy bastard, why do you've to wait a week", and i'm like, LOLWOT.

Why wouldn't you just say you are doing something "on Friday" or "this Friday"?

Do we all agree at least that when someone say "the Friday next" they mean the Friday after the next one?

Stupid language.

K-Ren

banquo wrote: »

No it isn't. The next friday that happens, i.e. the next time it will be friday, is friday the 11nth. Do we discount this friday for some reason? Or is there a hidden, magic friday between now and then that I don't know about?

It's the next friday that happens.

It's this Friday! The Friday of this week. Last week had last Friday. Next Friday will contain the next Friday.

It's a simple system. If you'll cleave to my consent, we 'tis, it shall make honor for you.

NothingMan

Depends on what day it is. If it's Saturday or Sunday then next Friday is the Friday coming up soonest.

However if it's Monday, Tue, Wed or Thurs then next Friday is the one for the following week and This Friday is the one for this week.

Basically Next Friday is the Friday for the following week and not the current week, even if it's Saturday or Sunday.

Not saying it's right, but it's how it works in my head.

Wossack

so theres certainly some ambiguity with 'next friday'

whats the consensus on 'friday next'?

OutlawPete

At the start of this thread I was happy that this was finally been sorted, now though, I feel conflustered

segaBOY

"Next Friday" is the 4th of December, "Friday week" is the Friday after.

People using "first floor" instead of "ground floor" also annoys me-we're not in America!

xoxyx

K-Ren wrote: »

This is one of the things that seriously annoys me.

The eleventh of December, is THIS Friday. This week. This month. This year.

The eighteenth of December, is NEXT Friday. Next week. Next month. Next year.

I cannot understand why people say things like "Friday week" or "The coming Friday".

The eighteenth of December, whilst certainly being next week, is still this month, this year....

:pac:

Mossy Monk

banquo wrote: »

Is it a culchie thing?

It is idiocy in general.

jacool

The Friday that will be occurring THIS week, is THIS Friday
The Friday that will be occurring NEXT week, is NEXT Friday
end of !

I hope

Yakuza

To me, "this Friday" and "next Friday" are one and the same. Any other definition doesn't make sense.

How can "next" mean "the one after the one that's coming now"?

If you were at the top of a queue, and the person serving said "Next!", wouldn't you be a little p*ssed off if the person behind you went to them to be served. Chaos would abound: Try to imagine all life as you know it stopping instantaneously and every molecule in your body exploding at the speed of light.

Friday week = the Friday after next.

If today were, say, Wednesday or Thursday, there would be no need to actually say the word "next", as to my mind it would be implied, but you cannot extrapolate this by saying if you actually said "next Friday" to mean the Friday from next week.

At least that's my take on it, I have a fairly logical, literal mind, (left-brained), but I know other folks are wired differently. I know it pisses off my wife when talking about plans for tomorrow, once it goes 12:00 midnight I change to using "today" while she still refers to it as "tomorrow" - to her, it's not "tomorrow" until she's gone to sleep and woken up (her subjective measure), whereas I'll change my frame of reference by an objective measure (the clock). Who's correct? I am, of course /wink

OutlawPete

segaBOY wrote: »

"Next Friday" is the 4th of December, "Friday week" is the Friday after.

I agree with this but ..

If someone said to you on Thursday .. 'See you next Friday Sega' and jumped in their car and tore off .. what would you think they meant??

robinph

Yakuza wrote: »

To me, "this Friday" and "next Friday" are one and the same. Any other definition doesn't make sense.

How can "next" mean "the one after the one that's coming now"?

The next is in reference to the week in which the day you are talking about is in.

zonEEE

'cause it's Friday; you ain't got no job... and you ain't got **** to do.

Sam Vimes

banquo wrote: »

It's not simple. You can't use the word next to mean one thing in every circumstance other than time.

Next customer.
Take the next left.
Next time this happens, boy...
The next song is...

These all mean the one immediatly coming. But oh no, when it comes to a coming day we've got this 'simple rule of ''well, actually, in this one particular instance next actually means the one after next''. How can next mean one after next?!

Messed up, circular reasoning at its worst tbh.

This Friday is the Friday of this week, next Friday is the Friday of next week.

When I'm talking about the Friday in three days I simply say "Friday". If I don't fell like being brief or if the context calls for it I will say "On Friday" and if I'm feeling fancy I might just say "this Friday". If you're using the word "next" to refer to the coming Friday it is at best an unnecessary qualifier and at worst confusing

GavRedKing

Friday the 18th is the next friday, this friday is the 11th, pretty simple IMO, the "next" friday is the Friday after the one thats upcoming.

segaBOY

OutlawPete wrote: »

I agree with this but ..

If someone said to you on Thursday .. 'See you next Friday Sega' and jumped in their car and tore off .. what would you think they meant??

Very good point, I'd expect him/her to say "tomorrow" in that case so would think they got the grammar wrong and meant Friday week.

Darn Hiberno-English

Wossack

Poll is nicely split

homerun_homer

It depends - if you say it on a Saturday/Sunday/Monday then you would be right to think 'This Friday' = 'Next friday'. But you can't say 'Next Friday' on a Thursday night and assume the person will take it for granted that you mean tomorrow.

Me and my housemate are always debating this one cause he is on one side and I'm on the other side of the fence.

pickarooney

If you're standing one metre from a turn in the road and tell someone to take the next left, which turn do you think they'll take - the one 1m up and to the left or the following one?

If you're at a till and you say 'closed after the next customer' as someone is approaching you, does it mean the customer you are about to serve or the following one?

orourkeda

next friday loosely translates as the friday that is next

orourkeda

pickarooney wrote: »

If you're standing one metre from a turn in the road and tell someone to take the next left, which turn do you think they'll take - the one 1m up and to the left or the following one?

If you're at a till and you say 'closed after the next customer' as someone is approaching you, does it mean the customer you are about to serve or the following one?

Wouldnt you just say go down there?

robinph

orourkeda wrote: »

next friday loosely translates as the friday that is next

next friday loosely translates as the friday that is next week

orourkeda

robinph wrote: »

next friday loosely translates as the friday that is next week

Today is Tuesday.

The next friday is friday.

Not the second friday which is the friday of next week.

TPD

This Friday = Friday of this week
Next Friday = Friday of next week

You would be confusing things unnecessarily to refer to the Friday of the week you are in as 'Next Friday'.

Friday is just 'Friday' if it's the one in the week you're in.
It's 'This Friday' if there might be any confusion as to which Friday 'Friday' refers to.
It's 'Next Friday' if it's the Friday of the next week.

Friday doesn't look like a real word any more

OutlawPete

segaBOY wrote: »

I'd expect him/her to say "tomorrow" in that case so would think they got the grammar wrong and meant Friday week.:(

Or you could run after the car and drag him out and say ..

"What the **** do you mean muthafcuka?? Which Friday, the 'Next Friday' as in tomorrow or 'Next Friday' as in next week's Friday, which one?? which one dammit??? .. and how do you know my Boards.ie username is 'Sega' anyway????"

robinph

orourkeda wrote: »

Today is Tuesday.

The next friday is friday.

Not the second friday which is the friday of next week.

By saying "the next Friday" though you are changing the meaning of the "next" and clarifying it in a different way.

The next Friday is indeed the very next Friday that will occur, and that statement would still be valid up until 11:59pm on the Thursday before without causing much confusion.
Next Friday is the one in the next week though.

curry-muff

Next Friday would be the Friday in Next Week.

Friday the 11th is THIS Friday.

enda1

Because there is obviously so much confusion and disagreement with the meaning of the word, perhaps we should all stop using it?
(except when we want that ambiguity;))

I'll see you on/this Friday.
I'll see you Friday week.

Simple, no need for next.