Shane Lowry - 2019 Champion Golfer of The Year (note first post please for posting guidance)

abff

There's only 60 players in each event (men's and women's). Qualification will be based on world rankings as of 11 July 2016. The top 15 players of each gender will qualify, with a limit of four golfers per country that can qualify this way. The remaining spots will go the highest-ranked players from countries that do not already have two golfers qualified. The IGF has guaranteed that at least one golfer from the host nation and each geographical region (Africa, the Americas, Asia, Europe, and Oceania) will qualify.

Based on current rankings, Rory and Shane would make it, assuming GMac opts to represent the UK, in which case he would be in the UK team with Rose. If GMac opts to represent Ireland, then Donald would get a place in the UK team and Shane would lose out. Only the US (with four players) would have more than two qualifiers. There are so many US and UK players in the top 100 that only around 40 of the top 100 in the rankings would qualify for the Olympics as things currently stand.

Of course, that's all based on current rankings and a lot can (and will) change between now and July 2016.

Speak Now

abff wrote: »

There's only 60 players in each event (men's and women's). Qualification will be based on world rankings as of 11 July 2016. The top 15 players of each gender will qualify, with a limit of four golfers per country that can qualify this way. The remaining spots will go the highest-ranked players from countries that do not already have two golfers qualified. The IGF has guaranteed that at least one golfer from the host nation and each geographical region (Africa, the Americas, Asia, Europe, and Oceania) will qualify.

Based on current rankings, Rory and Shane would make it, assuming GMac opts to represent the UK, in which case he would be in the UK team with Rose. If GMac opts to represent Ireland, then Donald would get a place in the UK team and Shane would lose out. Only the US (with four players) would have more than two qualifiers. There are so many US and UK players in the top 100 that only around 40 of the top 100 in the rankings would qualify for the Olympics as things currently stand.

Of course, that's all based on current rankings and a lot can (and will) change between now and July 2016.

McDowell is playing for Ireland abff, him and McIlroy as things stand.

abff

Jerry Seinfeld wrote: »

Poulter would be a cert anyway as his the next player on both lists. As things stand one of McDowell, Jimenez and Gallacher would be disappointed. IMO Donald is the only one of the 9 that may be pushed out of the automatics. F.Molinari and Luiten would need something special I think.

I appreciate the fact that Donaldson needs to fall two places in both listings in order to miss out on automatic qualification. However, he is only marginally ahead of Stenson and less than €50k ahead of Bjorn in the European points list and marginally ahead of Donald and less than 15 points ahead of Poulter in the World points list, so his position is far from secure.

Speak Now

abff wrote: »

Donaldson is less than €50k ahead of Bjorn in the European points list and less than 15 points ahead of Poulter in the World points list, so his position is far from secure.

IMO i said, we'll know soon enough anyway.

abff

abff wrote: »

I appreciate the fact that Donaldson needs to fall two places in both listings in order to miss out on automatic qualification. However, he is only marginally ahead of Stenson and less than €50k ahead of Bjorn in the European points list and marginally ahead of Donald and less than 15 points ahead of Poulter in the World points list, so his position is far from secure.

Actually, I think that the 1.50 world ranking points that Donald got for making the cut in the Open will put him a fraction of a point ahead of Donaldson in the world points list.

Goldenjohn

abff wrote: »

I appreciate the fact that Donaldson needs to fall two places in both listings in order to miss out on automatic qualification. However, he is only marginally ahead of Stenson and less than €50k ahead of Bjorn in the European points list and marginally ahead of Donald and less than 15 points ahead of Poulter in the World points list, so his position is far from secure.

Donald is a cert as everyone wants to play with him foursomes imo

abff

Jerry Seinfeld wrote: »

IMO i said, we'll know soon enough anyway.

I agree that Donald is at risk. But I don't agree with your statement of opinion that he is the only one who may be pushed out of the automatics, for the reasons I outlined above. In any event, as you say, we'll know soon enough.

PARlance

Shane up to 59th in the world (via @VC606 on twitter, he's usually spot on).

abff

PARlance wrote: »

Shane up to 59th in the world (via @VC606 on twitter, he's usually spot on).

By my reckoning, he's up to 58th.

Correction: I agree with calculation of 59th. I thought he would pass Russell Henley in the rankings, but I think he will be just behind him at 2.27 vs 2.28. I forgot to allow for the fact that Shane's divisor is increasing from 50 to 51.

PARlance

abff wrote: »

By my reckoning, he's up to 58th.

I had a suspicion that you might be that guy on twitter. Guess that rules that one out

ssbob

Guys I can't see anyone breaking that top 4 on the European Points list who is currently outside the standings.

At the moment, the picks will most likely go to Poulter/Gmac/Gallacher(Home player and McGinley will want the home support to get behind us as much as possible)

Next in line then I think are Jiminez & Westwood(Completely based on experience rather than form)

Then the others who can push for a spot if they can continue to show good form are Shane & Francesco Molinari. I think that Joost Luiten had a great year last year but this year has not been great for him so far so don't see him getting a pick.

vicwatson

Reportedly (but would like to know where, Indo) Shane was asked 3 times not to wear his green and orange socks, would like to know by whom?.

http://www.independent.ie/sport/golf/shane-lowry-flies-flag-for-ireland-on-his-socks-30446731.html

paulos53

According to the schedule on his website Shane is only playing 2 of the next 6 weeks before the team is selected. He must be saving his energy for the bigger tournaments in September and October

I can't see him being picked based on good form when playing so little golf in the lead up to the wildcard selection so I see his only chance of making the team is do something special at the USPGA.

abff

ssbob wrote: »

Guys I can't see anyone breaking that top 4 on the European Points list who is currently outside the standings.

At the moment, the picks will most likely go to Poulter/Gmac/Gallacher(Home player and McGinley will want the home support to get behind us as much as possible)

Next in line then I think are Jiminez & Westwood(Completely based on experience rather than form)

Then the others who can push for a spot if they can continue to show good form are Shane & Francesco Molinari. I think that Joost Luiten had a great year last year but this year has not been great for him so far so don't see him getting a pick.

I agree that it's unlikely that anyone who is currently outside the 9 automatic qualifying places will make it into the top 4 on the European points list. But it's quite possible that Stenson and Bjorn, who is currently 6th on the World points list (4th when you exclude McIlroy and Stenson, who are both currently qualifying from the European points list) will both finish ahead of Donaldson. Stenson is just over €5,000 behind Donaldson and Bjorn is just over €47,000 behind.

If that happens, Bjorn will qualify from the European points list and his place on the World points list would go to the next in line on that list, which is currently Donaldson. However, Donaldson could easily fall down the rankings on the World points list between now and end August. The gap between him and the next four players on the list is as follows:

Gallacher 7.79
McDowell 11.30
Poulter 14.80
Jiminez 21.62

With the points on offer in the Bridgestone and the PGA, there's a good chance one or more of those four players could earn enough points to get into the automatic placings. Of course, if someone from further down the rankings was to finish top three in either of those events, this could catapult them into the team and Donaldson could hold onto his place if he performs well over the next six weeks.

But barring someone storming through with a top finish in one of the two big events, it seems very likely that the top 9 will come from the current top 9 and the 4 players listed above. 7 players seem to be almost certain of making the top 9, with Donald likely to get a wild card if he doesn't make the automatic qualifiers, but Donaldson probably unlikely to get a pick.

I think the worst case scenario for McGinley would be both Donaldson and Gallacher making the top 9, in which case he would have to choose from Poulter, GMac, Donald, Westwood and Jiminez for his three wild cards. I think the first three named would get the nod.

Best case would be two out of Donald, Pouter and GMac to make the team, in which case the third would probably get a pick and he would have two wild cards left. In that scenario, Westwood might come into the frame, but Lowry and Molinari might also be considered if they are playing well, particularly if Donaldson, Gallacher and Jiminez are not playing well over the next month or so.

Maybe this should be in a Ryder Cup thread rather than here, but it follows on from previous discussions on this thread and I guess it has some relevance in that it addresses the possibility of Shane making the team.

blackwhite

paulos53 wrote: »

According to the schedule on his website Shane is only playing 2 of the next 6 weeks before the team is selected. He must be saving his energy for the bigger tournaments in September and October

I can't see him being picked based on good form when playing so little golf in the lead up to the wildcard selection so I see his only chance of making the team is do something special at the USPGA.

Is he likely to make the field for the USPGA?

I know that they use a money list starting from the week after last year's USPGA, but I can't find it anywhere online.

AGC

blackwhite wrote: »

Is he likely to make the field for the USPGA?

I know that they use a money list starting from the week after last year's USPGA, but I can't find it anywhere online.

He's already in

http://www.pga.com/pgachampionship/news/2014-pga-championship-field?atrack=hp_top-story-list_2

bigtimecharlie

PARlance wrote: »

Shane up to 59th in the world (via @VC606 on twitter, he's usually spot on).

Official web site has him at 59.

abff

blackwhite wrote: »

Is he likely to make the field for the USPGA?

I know that they use a money list starting from the week after last year's USPGA, but I can't find it anywhere online.

As far as I know, the top 100 in the world rankings all get an invite. I'm not sure when the cut off date is, but Shane is comfortably inside the top 100, so he should definitely get into the PGA.

abff

AGC wrote: »

He's already in

http://www.pga.com/pgachampionship/news/2014-pga-championship-field?atrack=hp_top-story-list_2

I see Paul McGinley is also in the field and that Darren Clarke is listed as being English.

Benicetomonty

abff wrote: »

I see Paul McGinley is also in the field and that Darren Clarke is listed as being English.

Ryder cup captains are invited to USPGA.

vienne86

I think making the Ryder Cup team is a tall order, but he is now having a great season, and it's great to see. Well done Shane!

GreeBo

abff wrote: »

I see Paul McGinley is also in the field and that Darren Clarke is listed as being English.

NO discussion of players nationalities!

abff

abff wrote: »

As far as I know, the top 100 in the world rankings all get an invite. I'm not sure when the cut off date is, but Shane is comfortably inside the top 100, so he should definitely get into the PGA.

I had a look at the criteria for this year's tournament and it looks as if I was wrong about the top 100 being invited. I'm pretty sure that was the case at some stage, but it looks to have been changed.

The criteria now allow for a lot of invitations, but don't seem to be laid out all that specifically. Anyhow, it looks as if there will be six Irish players in the field this year, which may well be the most ever for the US PGA.

abff

abff wrote: »

Anyhow, it looks as if there will be six Irish players in the field this year, which may well be the most ever for the US PGA.

Actually, the same six players were in the field last year.

ozymandias10

the more he plays and more importantly competes at the big events it will take his game up a notch to the next level. I have been very impressed with him in the last 5 weeks or so. even after the three holes in the open where he had two doubles and a bogey he didn't let it bother him.

Jazzzman

His temperament on Sunday is what struck me most. To have a finish like that on the biggest of stage was very impressive.

Going right back to his amateur win at the Irish Open, you can tell he won't be phased by occasions.

PARlance

Jazzzman wrote: »

His temperament on Sunday is what struck me most. To have a finish like that on the biggest of stage was very impressive.

Going right back to his amateur win at the Irish Open, you can tell he won't be phased by occasions.

Couldn't agree more, said the same about him after Wentworth.

There are some sportsmen that excel on the big occasions or when the pressure is on. I think Shane definitely has this in his DNA.
I think it's much more than just coping with the pressure, most cope (compared to the few that crack) but I think he thrives on it, and that is a rare enough thing.

I think the last few months will be massive for him.
I would still worry that the hectic schedule outside of the European leg of the Tour doesn't sit well with him. It's not easy for any of them to get the right balance but I think it's more of an issue with Shane's make up.
It's refreshing to see how normal he is ...going to GAA matches, hanging with the lads etc seem to play a big part in things.... But I think it'll hold him back slightly.

ArielAtom

Just got this from club. Should be a good day.

Further to the recent email about the Srixon CSS competition.
Any player, man , woman , junior who uses a Srixon Golf Ball in a competition and equals or betters their handicap CSS ( either nett or stable ford points) will automatically be entered into a draw to win. Players can use golf ball.. Zstar, ad333 tour, ad333, soft feel , ladies or distance to be eligible. Players report their scores to their Club professional (Raymie Burns) who keeps a list of the names eligible to win.
Prize..... The winner will receive a signed tour bag ... Signed and presented by Shane Lowry
Winners will be drawn on 21st July... Presentation will be at Lisheen Springs Golf Club on Wednesday 23rd July.

Shane Lowry Clinic , 23rd July 12-2 pm open for attendance to any members and or Professional staff of participating Clubs . Clinic to be held at Lisheen Springs golf Club. Shane will be there, show how he warms up, answer questions etc

vicwatson

vicwatson wrote: »

Reportedly (but would like to know where, Indo) Shane was asked 3 times not to wear his green and orange socks, would like to know by whom?.

http://www.independent.ie/sport/golf/shane-lowry-flies-flag-for-ireland-on-his-socks-30446731.html

So does anyone know?

charlieIRL

vicwatson wrote: »

So does anyone know?

from the lack of replies, it seems that nobody does or cares for that matter!