Shane Lowry - 2019 Champion Golfer of The Year (note first post please for posting guidance)

PARlance

vienne86 wrote: »

Rats. But I like the way he's playing in the US. It seems to suit him, so I wouldn't be overly worried.

Are there any other key dates to look out for in terms of his ranking and eligibility?

Just getting into it now, it's a funny old game in itself. Jiminez would have been lining up in Doral if he had decided not to bother playing the Indian Open. You would wonder if he actually knew that.

slave1

PARlance wrote: »

Are there any other key dates to look out for in terms of his ranking and eligibility?

Just getting into it now, it's a funny old game in itself. Jiminez would have been lining up in Doral if he had decided not to bother playing the Indian Open. You would wonder if he actually knew that.

Would he still have the length to complete?

Shane almost halved his ranking points with those two bogeys, from ~ 10.6 to ~ 5.5, expensive finish indeed

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slave1 wrote: »

Confirmed, fell 4 places to 44

Just fell the 2, was 42nd last week.

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PARlance wrote: »

Are there any other key dates to look out for in terms of his ranking and eligibility?

Just getting into it now, it's a funny old game in itself. Jiminez would have been lining up in Doral if he had decided not to bother playing the Indian Open. You would wonder if he actually knew that.

Match play pretty much in the bag.

WGC-CADILLAC MATCH PLAY CHAMPIONSHIP April 29-May 3
• Top 64 from World Ranking on April 20.

THE PLAYERS CHAMPIONSHIP May 7-10
• Top 50 from World Ranking on April 27.

U.S. OPEN June 18-21
• Top 60 from World Ranking on June 1.
• Top 60 from World Ranking on June 15.

abff

PARlance wrote: »

Are there any other key dates to look out for in terms of his ranking and eligibility?

Just getting into it now, it's a funny old game in itself. Jiminez would have been lining up in Doral if he had decided not to bother playing the Indian Open. You would wonder if he actually knew that.

I think the next key cut off point will be for the WGC World Matchplay at end April. I think this will be based on the top 64 as at Monday 20th April and I don't think he is in any danger of falling outside the top 64 by then.

Does anyone know when he's playing next? The only full prize money event on the European Tour prior to the Masters is the Trophee Hassan II and Shane does not appear on the current entry list for this event. There are four tournaments on the PGA Tour before the Masters. He's not playing this week. Does he have invitations to any of the following three events?

Regarding Jiminez, he had a decent enough result the previous week and he may have already committed to the Indian Open event before realising that he would be jeopardising his top 50 position if he failed to pick up any world ranking points there. Or maybe he didn't realise this at all - it's always unpredictable what will happen to your ranking from one week to the next as it depends not only on your own performance but also that of players close to you in the rankings.

pistol_75

abff wrote: »

Does anyone know when he's playing next? The only full prize money event on the European Tour prior to the Masters is the Trophee Hassan II and Shane does not appear on the current entry list for this event. There are four tournaments on the PGA Tour before the Masters. He's not playing this week. Does he have invitations to any of the following three events?

He has a week off this week and is playing in the Arnold Palmer Invitational the following week, followed by the Texas Open and then a week off before The Masters.

slave1

pistol_75 wrote: »

...before The Masters.

can never get tired of reading that

ionadnapokot

Do u think he can make the cut?

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ionadnapokot wrote: »

Do u think he can make the cut?

Yes if he's not to aggressive with his chipping.

ionadnapokot

Is he putting well enough?

blockic

ionadnapokot wrote: »

Is he putting well enough?

What are your thoughts on his putting?

ionadnapokot

eh...I don't know enough about it. hence Q's ?
http://www.pgatour.com/players/player.33204.shane-lowry.html/statistics

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ionadnapokot wrote: »

eh...I don't know enough about it. hence Q's ?
http://www.pgatour.com/players/player.33204.shane-lowry.html/statistics

Sample size way to small to be looking at that yet.

FixdePitchmark

Only 9 rounds in US in his stats. (so a small sample)


But his putting is his worst stat of the key stats -
Strokes gained he is 122. (he is losing shots)

This is an outlier

As his other stats are excellent - most other stats below position 50.
Padraig is 112 in this stat.

At 118 or lower in this stat you are gaining shots on field - Shane is losing on field putting. (But too simple to just look at putting)

An example of someone putting well in Donaldson - who has gained 13 shots in only 20 rounds - by putting. That is a lot of money from putting.

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Not a huge fan of the strokes gained putting stats. Say 2 guys have a 40 foot putt, one leaves it on the lip and the other runs it 8 feet past but holes the return. The stat might say player 2 gained half a shot on the other.

PARlance

It's a small sample but well worth looking at the difference between his individual round stats.
Some improvement in putting between his 1st and 4th rounds.

FixdePitchmark

Jerry Seinfeld wrote: »

Not a huge fan of the strokes gained putting stats. Say 2 guys have a 40 foot putt, one leaves it on the lip and the other runs it 8 feet past but holes the return. The stat might say player 2 gained half a shot on the other.

Looked it up there on their site - it is fairly good science.

Not to mention 2 top US universities have created it. Including number 2 in the world, MIT.

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FixdePitchmark wrote: »

Looked it up there on their site - it is fairly good science.

Not to mention 2 top US universities have created it. Including number 2 in the world, MIT.

I know all that just not a fan of it.

gypsy79

FixdePitchmark wrote: »

Looked it up there on their site - it is fairly good science.

Not to mention 2 top US universities have created it. Including number 2 in the world, MIT.

Black and Scholes were very clever men developing the formula to price derivatives bearing their name. It didnt stop one of them nearly causing a downfall of epic sizes (prob bigger than 2008) barring a bail out of LTC

ionadnapokot

I thought this was a golf forum :pac:

FixdePitchmark

gypsy79 wrote: »

Black and Scholes were very clever men developing the formula to price derivatives bearing their name. It didnt stop one of them nearly causing a downfall of epic sizes (prob bigger than 2008) barring a bail out of LTC

Isaac Newton was born in 1643.

FixdePitchmark

Anyway - Shane coming up in Newstalk.

Will post when he is on.

FixdePitchmark

ON NOW

FixdePitchmark

He is just a likeable bloke isn't he.

Big sale on now.

Big statement to say he will always play both tours.

So many other top pros - have let go on that ideal.

BoardsMember

FixdePitchmark wrote: »

He is just a likeable bloke isn't he.

Big sale on now.

Big statement to say he will always play both tours.

So many other top pros - have let go on that ideal.

Other pros have started their US Tour adventure saying they will play both tours. If he's successful in USA, and enjoys the lifestyle etc, he'll probably play less and less in Europe over time.

FixdePitchmark

BoardsMember wrote: »

Other pros have started their US Tour adventure saying they will play both tours. If he's successful in USA, and enjoys the lifestyle etc, he'll probably play less and less in Europe over time.

Agree.

Only thing - he seems a serious home bird.

Family - GAA - mates, his links golf, other Irish sports.

But he is young and full of ideal - nice to hear.


The likes of Poults - Donald - Westwood - Rory - Sergio , all over there.

BoardsMember

FixdePitchmark wrote: »

Agree.

Only thing - he seems a serious home bird.

Family - GAA - mates, his links golf, other Irish sports.

But he is young and full of ideal - nice to hear.


The likes of Poults - Donald - Westwood - Rory - Sergio , all over there.

All true. Hopefully he finds the right balance. Lovely fella, great man to have lying the flag over there alongside Padraig.

ionadnapokot

BoardsMember wrote: »

All true. Hopefully he finds the right balance. Lovely fella, great man to have lying the flag over there alongside Padraig.

Any1 care to predict how he will fare on his 1st trip to Agusta? I don't know enough about his game to offer a prediction but wud be chuffed if he made the cut.

BoardsMember

Is it fair to say he tends to play par 5's well? That's the secret of Augusta anyhow, if he can play the par 5's well he'll be ok, if not it's an uphill battle.

slave1

If ever there's a course where you need to be able to putt with confidence then it's Augusta, at the minute this is where (on a relative basis) Shane needs to improve, putting is everything for The Masters...