Durrr V Isildur1...whats the damage so far?

DeadMoney

Hey, I haven't really been following this but the whole online poker community seems to be buzzing about these matches that have been taking place over the last 3 days between the two. I railed some of the matches the other day and durrr was being crushed and stuck like 1.5 million to Isildur1 (who is anonymous by the way). Apparently has won millions this week alone and most of this has come from Durrr. So whats the story with this and does anybody know exactly how much Durrr has lost, and is it just railbird gossip that he has lost most of his roll lately?

Mullicker

A little over $3 million according to an article on PTR.

Norwich Fan Rob

about an hour ago isildur was playing 1.8m over 5 tables and durrr about 200k
watched a bit of it and durrr was being crushed again today.

mickc

http://www.pokertableratings.com/fulltilt-player-opponents/isildur1

$3.1 million

tylerdurden94

Im really enjoying hearing that Durr is getting crushed.

willietherock

so can we say that this guy is off the scale better than any headups up player in the history of online poker yet or is it too early?

Whyno

willietherock wrote: »

so can we say that this guy is off the scale better than any headups up player in the history of online poker yet or is it too early?

Ah i`m not that good but just dont like Durrr so decided to destroy his soul....

DrJFF

Who is this guy?

its pretty sick how much he is running over Durrrr,

just as well he's part of Team FT now

Jesus Wept

Rumour has it that it's Phil Babb.

maloney333

DrJFF wrote: »

Who is this guy?

its pretty sick how much he is running over Durrrr,

just as well he's part of Team FT now

Blom90 if the rumours are true

jbravado

The-Rigger wrote: »

Rumour has it that it's Phil Babb.

Racist.

cuterob

were the rumors of it being todd brunson untrue?

super_furry

Zombie Michael Jackson?

maloney333

cuterob wrote: »

were the rumors of it being todd brunson untrue?

Were did ppl get todd from, i bet like my whole roll its not todd.

Thats 50euro by the way if anyone wants a bet lol

ihadu

tylerdurden94 wrote: »

Im really enjoying hearing that Durr is getting crushed.

why are you enjoying someone losing? its very unsettling to hear this level of satisfaction against a young guy who, as far as i can tell. hasn't done anything to upset anyone?

maloney333

ihadu wrote: »

why are you enjoying someone losing? its very unsettling to hear this level of satisfaction against a young guy who, as far as i can tell. hasn't done anything to upset anyone?

Jealousy is a motherfu@ker

DeadMoney

They have played close to 40k hands so far. I doubt Durrr will play him again for another while but I think they will definitely clash again as Durrr just seems like the type of player that isn't prepared to admit defeat too easily. This really blows the Durrr challange out of the water. Wonder will Ivey give Isildur action?

Flipz4Rollz

The-Rigger wrote: »

Rumour has it that it's Phil Babb.

Confirmed

tylerdurden94

ihadu wrote: »

why are you enjoying someone losing? its very unsettling to hear this level of satisfaction against a young guy who, as far as i can tell. hasn't done anything to upset anyone?

Really why is it upsettling?

maloney333 wrote: »

Jealousy is a motherfu@ker

Yeah i wish i had Durrs roll, oh wait what roll? :pac:

ihadu

explain to the class why you are enjoying his suffering?

digiman

Durrrr v lsildur1

PhilGalfond
Bluefire Pro
Post Date: 11 Nov, 2009


Hey BFPers,



A lot of people have been asking me my take on the lsildur v Durrrr match. Obviously I am good friends with Tom, so I've been rooting for him.



Yes, I have watched some of it, and have been following, but I actually haven't seen most of the action first hand. I've read through many of the hand histories, and I actually watched almost the entire first day. I've also played a few hours with lsildur myself, and countless hours with Tom.



Who's the favorite? I can't be sure. I've never played against someone who I thought had an edge on Tom at hunl. However, after 25k hands and big results, Bayesian probability insists that I at least consider the fact that Tom could be a dog here.



From my experience with lsildur, my impression was that he was a very good pro, but not unbeatable. His style was different than many of the opponents I've played, but adjusting to new game dynamics has always been one of my strongest skills as a poker player. I was very happy to be getting new high stakes action, but certainly didn't consider him a fish.



After watching the match, my opinion of his game has risen. Not many people can handle a style like Tom's at nosebleeds with stacks that deep for very long. You have to remain on your A game constantly or risk getting completely picked apart.



lsildur has shown that he can stay on his A game for many hours, across 6 tables, without much sleep. Something I don't think I could do. Yes, running well at nosebleeds will help a lot with your focus. Adrenaline and the thrill of beating the best probably has made it easier for him to stay focused. And everyone is familiar with the concept of 'momentum' though people's opinions on its effect differ.



I've read a bit about theories on who he is, and the way he got to where he's at right now. Seems like no one is positive about him or his backstory, at least publicly. No, I don't have any more info than you guys do.



People probably assume, based on my reputation recently as a game selector and bankroll manager, that I think anyone risking huge portions of their roll against the best in the world is stupid. Far from it. I came up that way pretty much. I played in games I had 10 or less buyins for. I've lost half my roll in a night, and much more than that over certain chunks of time.



Playing against tough competition when you have a lot on the line is a great way to learn the game. It motivates you more than anything else can. It's not shocking that lsildur has made the progress he has (based on the stories I've read).



I personally don't want to put myself at risk like that anymore. I'm content with my current life situation, and I'm not willing to jeopardize it yet. However, I definitely don't look down on anyone who approaches poker differently. I have a TONNNNN of respect for both Tom and lsildur. In many ways, I'm extremely jealous that I'm not a part of a match this epic.



How good is lsildur? I'm not sure yet. I'd need to play against him myself much more. He's probably an excellent player, based on what I know. Even while running extremely well, very few people could come out far ahead against Tom over that many hands of 6 tabling 500/1k. Even fewer people would dare to try it.



If he were playing against almost anyone else, I'd be rooting for him, but I hope Tom is able to turn things around.



I've been playing for around 5 years now, and I've never seen anything like this. I'll be on the rail with the rest of you. Enjoy it.



-Phil

tylerdurden94

ihadu wrote: »

explain to the class why you are enjoying his suffering?

Please enlighten us as to why it is so unsettling? Some people love the guy i personally dont.

As i and many others have stated in the BBV it will show the nuthuggers that he isnt the be all and end all of poker, i think he is an android.

BigCityBanker

i love Jman, mostly cos he is such an intelligent and articulate guy - and cos he built a slide in his apartment - he is easily my fav big online name.

ihadu

tylerdurden94 wrote: »

Please enlighten us as to why it is so unsettling? Some people love the guy i personally dont.

As i and many others have stated in the BBV it will show the nuthuggers that he isnt the be all and end all of poker, i think he is an android.

so youre the begrudging irish fool everyone has been going on about...

i don't want to be associated with bitter mugs

tylerdurden94

ihadu wrote: »

so youre the begrudging irish fool everyone has been going on about...

i don't want to be associated with bitter mugs

I dont begrudge Isildur1 the money

Please elaborate on why its so unsettling, easy question? If you wanna just keep having a go at me thats fine.

Is Durr a great player, i cant deny that he is a fantastic player, do i like to see him get a bit of his own medicine i sure do. He has been crushing online for a number of years now, do i like his "moves" no not paticulary but then again thats just me, so to see somebody jump up out of nowhere and destroy him the way he has been doing will defo put Durr in his place a little and thats gotta hurt. Some people will be able to put it much better than i would but im not the greatest writer in the world.

Jesus Wept

Flipz4Rollz wrote: »

Confirmed

digiman wrote: »

Durrrr v lsildur1

PhilGalfond
Bluefire Pro
Post Date: 11 Nov, 2009


Hey BFPers,



A lot of people have been asking me my take on the lsildur v Durrrr match.

digiman wrote: »

Obviously I am good friends with Tom, so I've been rooting for him.



Yes, I have watched some of it, and have been following, but I actually haven't seen most of the action first hand. I've read through many of the hand histories, and I actually watched almost the entire first day. I've also played a few hours with lsildur myself, and countless hours with Tom.



Who's the favorite? I can't be sure. I've never played against someone who I thought had an edge on Tom at hunl. However, after 25k hands and big results, Bayesian probability insists that I at least consider the fact that Tom could be a dog here.



From my experience with lsildur, my impression was that he was a very good pro, but not unbeatable. His style was different than many of the opponents I've played, but adjusting to new game dynamics has always been one of my strongest skills as a poker player. I was very happy to be getting new high stakes action, but certainly didn't consider him a fish.



After watching the match, my opinion of his game has risen. Not many people can handle a style like Tom's at nosebleeds with stacks that deep for very long. You have to remain on your A game constantly or risk getting completely picked apart.



lsildur has shown that he can stay on his A game for many hours, across 6 tables, without much sleep. Something I don't think I could do. Yes, running well at nosebleeds will help a lot with your focus. Adrenaline and the thrill of beating the best probably has made it easier for him to stay focused. And everyone is familiar with the concept of 'momentum' though people's opinions on its effect differ.



I've read a bit abOut theories on who he is, and the way he got to where he's at right now. SeeMs like no one is positive about him or his backstory, at least publicly. No, I don't have any more info than you Guys do.



People probably assume, based on my reputation recently as a game selector and bankroll manager, thatI think anyone risking huge portions of their roll against the best in the world is stupid. Far from it. I came up that way pretty much. I played in games I had 10 or less buyins for. I've lost half my roll in a night, and much more than that over certain chunks of time.



Playing against tough competition when you have a lot on the line is a great way to learn the game. It motivates you more than anything else can. It's not shocking that lsildur has made the progress he has (based on the stories I've read).



I personally don't want to put myself at risk like that anymore. I'm content with my current life situation, and I'm not willing to jeopardize it yet. However, I definitely don't look down on anyone who approaches poker differently. I have a TONNNNN of respect for both Tom and lsildur. In many ways, I'm extremely jealous that I'm not a part of a match this epic.



How good is lsildur? I'm not sure yet. I'd need to play against him myself much more. He's probably an excellent player, based on what I know. Even while running extremely well, very few people could come out far ahead against Tom over that many hands of 6 tabling 500/1k. Even fewer people would dare to try it.



If he were playing against almost anyone else, I'd be rooting for him, but I hope Tom is able to turn things around.



I've been playing for around 5 years now, and I've never seen anything like this. I'll be on the rail with the rest of you. Enjoy it.



-Phil

Confirmed

jbravado

Epic LOL. Wp Rigger.

Slash/ED

BigCityBanker wrote: »

i love Jman, mostly cos he is such an intelligent and articulate guy - and cos he built a slide in his apartment - he is easily my fav big online name.

Yeah me to. I don't watch the games or know much about them as players, there could be many better than Galfond, but he seems like the most intelligent easy going of the lot and the one person who I genuinely look out for everything he writes or says. The slide helps.

califano

DrJFF wrote: »

Who is this guy?

T.J Cookier

a147pro

am I right in thinking the Durrr challenge is over 50k hands?

has Isildur now crushed him over 40k hands? in which case the durr challenge is virtually dead in the water

as per who he is I think he was down a million shortly after starting to play the high stakes games, which means he is either mega rich or is a high stakes pro playing under a different name. and judging by the reference to sleep above, possibly a number of high stakes pros playing under a different name.

I do think that someone who was, AFAIR, a winner in the high stakes games, being now crushed by someone new is very significant, notwithstanding many poster's attempts to characterise it as boring. but other people who play a lot of cash would be in a better position to comment on the significance of a loss of 3 mill over 40k hands at those stakes?

Slash/ED

Don't think this is part of any Durrrr challenge, so he wont owe him the 1.5m on top or whatever it is. I'd assume he'd have to have agreed to that first.

a147pro

yes but the point is he made this offer to anyone, on the basis that he thought he could beat anyone, and appears to beating Antonius, and then this randomer comes along and creams him on similar terms

DeadMoney

a147pro wrote: »

yes but the point is he made this offer to anyone, on the basis that he thought he could beat anyone, and appears to beating Antonius, and then this randomer comes along and creams him on similar terms

Anyone here with any legal back round particularly in contract law that might want to comment on this? It is an interesting point. Lol, would be just sick if Isildur successfully sued Durrr for the amount promised in his durrr challenge on top of skimming him for 3mil!

Ste05

DeadMoney wrote: »

Anyone here with any legal back round particularly in contract law that might want to comment on this? It is an interesting point. Lol, would be just sick if Isildur successfully sued Durrr for the amount promised in his durrr challenge on top of skimming him for 3mil!

It's not a contract. No Offer or Acceptance. His "challenge" would be regarded as an "Invitation to Treat".

phantom_lord

there has to be an offer and acceptance. you can't just automatically enter the durrrr challenge just by playing him.

ZZR1100

they say he is swedish at highstacksdb.
he appeared on the 23/10 and is up over 4mill in the last 7 days.
he took cole south / brian townsend for 200k each last night.

Isildur1: hi
durrrr: hiya
durrrr: lets do 6?
Isildur1: yeah
Isildur1: lets play a long session ?
Isildur1: u got much in ?
durrrr: ya
durrrr: can play for 10hrs or so
durrrr:
Isildur1: me2
Isildur1: this will be fun
Isildur1: i need 10 mins
Isildur1: change computer etc
Isildur1: cu

mikethemouth

is this right now ?

can you keep updated on this battle ?

this is some match

durrrr is playing HSP in vegas atm as well....guy is a sick puppy

Tony3004

He is up 3-4 buy ins in 15- 20mins against PA now. Cash the 5 mil and retire !!!!

Jesus Wept

Watching now too, 2 PL Omaha tables...

Tight Ted

He's taking PA to school at PLO. Anyone have any idea who this guy is? Defo not Blom.

Jesus Wept

An observer said it's Barack Obama.

Ste05

He's currently sitting on stacks of ~570k and ~425k v PA's 104k and 111k.

green123

Isildur1: ?
Isildur1: will u reload
Patrik Antonius: no more $$

green123

back again
4 tables of 500 -1000 nl

thenutpeddler

ivey insta quits after losing 200k in minutes

green123

up at least 500k against pa in the last half hour and still playing 4 tables
and now he is playing 1 table 500 - 1000 nl against ivey aswell

thenutpeddler

I can't go to bed this is so good. I've back for more.

thenutpeddler

Ivey's last hand from his first short session

Phil Ivey (BB): $100000.00
Isildur1 (BTN/SB): $308497.00

Pre Flop: ($1500.00)
Isildur1 raises to $3000, Phil Ivey calls $2000

Flop: ($6000.00) A 5 3 (2 players)
Phil Ivey checks, Isildur1 bets $5000, Phil Ivey raises to $15000, Isildur1 calls $10000

Turn: ($36000.00) 2 (2 players)
Phil Ivey checks, Isildur1 bets $26500, Phil Ivey raises to $82000 all in, Isildur1 calls $55500

River: ($200000.00) 8 (2 players - 1 is all in)

Final Pot: $200000.00
Phil Ivey shows 9 K (Ace King high)
Isildur1 shows 8 T (a flush, Ace high)
Isildur1 wins $199999.50
(Rake: $0.50)

green123

Isildur1 busts pa on 2 tables, still playing on the other 2
up a bit against ivey but not much happening then ivey quits for now
Phil Ivey: play later

his graph looks reeeeeeal nice

http://www.pokertableratings.com/graphs/i/isildur1/timeline-fulltilt.png

green123

down to just 1 table of plo now because pa cant reload