News and views on Greystones harbour and marina [SEE MODERATOR WARNING POST 1187]

Tabnabs

Is it? Compared to Dublin prices maybe, but how does it compare to Wicklow Town, Arklow etc.?

LEIN

Tabnabs wrote: »

Is it? Compared to Dublin prices maybe, but how does it compare to Wicklow Town, Arklow etc.?

I think €1/hr is standard enough right down to wexford.

Macy0161

I actually would've thought that the parking was under more pressure at weekends, but it's a long time since I was down there during the week.

Tabnabs

LEIN wrote: »

I think €1/hr is standard enough right down to wexford.

I got a good deal in a Dublin City Council run car park at €0.60 per hour last week so.

Charlie-Bravo

Macy0161 wrote: »

I actually would've thought that the parking was under more pressure at weekends, but it's a long time since I was down there during the week.

Paid parking during the week isn't going to solve the madness at the weekend!! It's whether they penalise people for not parking in the actual bays no matter what time of day it is.

legrand

the knock on effect of pay-parking will be interesting as drivers seek elsewhere for free parking.

jpd

Don't think there is much free parking anywhere in Greystones

drake70

Plenty of information here including a link to a map (dated 2009)

http://www.wicklow.ie/pay-parking-greystones

legrand

Would appear that Phase 1 of the development is nearing an end with a general (albeit temporary) cleanup of the grounds around the new houses. Tempted to go the official launch of these units and see how the agents deal with the the view question. Not sure about others here but if I were in the market I'm pretty certain I would pass on this opportunity knowing that in a year or two my view would consist of the gable end of an apartment block. And the whole layout is in north/south configuration meaning only a few units at the back along the track can expect direct sunlight and then only in the evenings.

On a separate note I see a planning notice from BJ Marine for office and restaurant. Not dated so unsure how long that's been there.

red_bairn

legrand wrote: »

Would appear that Phase 1 of the development is nearing an end with a general (albeit temporary) cleanup of the grounds around the new houses. Tempted to go the official launch of these units and see how the agents deal with the the view question. Not sure about others here but if I were in the market I'm pretty certain I would pass on this opportunity knowing that in a year or two my view would consist of the gable end of an apartment block. And the whole layout is in north/south configuration meaning only a few units at the back along the track can expect direct sunlight and then only in the evenings.

On a separate note I see a planning notice from BJ Marine for office and restaurant. Not dated so unsure how long that's been there.

Nice to hear about the BJ Marine getting a permanent office planning notice. But yeah, girlfriend said the homes are on top of each other and I agree. Horrible.

recedite

They are fairly crammed in, and the view will be blocked by the next phase. But still, nice modern warm units in a nice area and convenient to shops and Dart. I'm sure they will be appealing to investors. In a few years time, the area could end up just as trendy as the equally cramped customs house dock area in Dublin.
Provided global warming doesn't happen, and it doesn't get washed away by the sea :pac:

Harry Kane

recedite wrote: »

They are fairly crammed in, and the view will be blocked by the next phase. But still, nice modern warm units in a nice area and convenient to shops and Dart. I'm sure they will be appealing to investors. In a few years time, the area could end up just as trendy as the equally cramped customs house dock area in Dublin.
Provided global warming doesn't happen, and it doesn't get washed away by the sea :pac:

But GLOBAL WARMING/CLIMATE CHANGE is happening and the sea levels are rising. Give it 30 years and these structures now being built just slightly above current sea levels will be abandoned out of necessity in a managed retreat exercise.

loyatemu

I notice the new square/park features in one of the current Lottery commercials.

I also noticed whilst in the Beach House this evening that the place was full of people in sailing gear eating dinner, so the Byrnes are doing nicely out of the new marina by the looks of things.

FirstIn

loyatemu wrote: »

I notice the new square/park features in one of the current Lottery commercials.

I also noticed whilst in the Beach House this evening that the place was full of people in sailing gear eating dinner, so the Byrnes are doing nicely out of the new marina by the looks of things.

Are you sure they all came from the marina?. They could be from Dalkey and the surrounding areas. That's common attire.

Cerco

Probably the stewards from Sherry Fitz moving from Sea Green down to the Harbour development 😊. Getting ready for the launch.

pixbyjohn

loyatemu wrote: »

I notice the new square/park features in one of the current Lottery commercials.

I also noticed whilst in the Beach House this evening that the place was full of people in sailing gear eating dinner, so the Byrnes are doing nicely out of the new marina by the looks of things.

All the businesses in the harbour area are doing nicely out of the new developments at the harbour which is great to see.

legrand

Flash visitor to the marina (with video link)
http://www.nke-marine-electronics.com/all-news/news/article/gizmo/

Harry Bosch

pixbyjohn wrote: »

All the businesses in the harbour area are doing nicely out of the new developments at the harbour which is great to see.

Have you conducted a survey, John?

I know for a fact that not all the local businesses are happy.

Dr Turk Turkelton

Harry Bosch wrote: »

Have you conducted a survey, John?

I know for a fact that not all the local businesses are happy.

So how many of the ones that you surveyed were unhappy?

Harry Bosch

Dr Turk Turkelton wrote: »

So how many of the ones that you surveyed were unhappy?

2

Zoo4m8

Harry Bosch wrote: »

2

Who and why?

Dr Turk Turkelton

Harry Bosch wrote: »

2

And how many local business did your survey take in?

pixbyjohn

The Marina owners are doing well, The Beach House owners are doing well, Spendloves are doing well, The Greystones Gallery artists are doing well, Le Creperie people are doing well, The Big Beast Pizza guy is doing well and Joe Sweeney is doing well. I will keep asking other businesses that may well open at the harbour. I haven't asked the fishing tackle shop owner yet.

My previous post "All the businesses in the harbour area are doing nicely out of the new developments at the harbour which is great to see."

Taltos

Think the fishing tackle shop is gone. Stocking the old gear now up in killincarrig, sure just a stones throw or a soft cast from the sea.

2011

I think you have covered all businesses in the harbor area John. As expected they all welcome the extra business.

Jimjay

2011 wrote: »

I think you have covered all businesses in the harbor area John. As expected they all welcome the extra business.

Nope. Think you missed the new beauty salon that opened a few days ago where the fishing tackle shop was :-)

Oh and is the harbour barber part of the harbour business ;-)

recedite

Fishermen replaced by posers then.

legrand

I'm no arborist but it appears the pine trees may be dying or at the very least desperately need to be watered as the pine needles are turning yellow.


Wakey wakey Sisk.

Harry Kane

legrand wrote: »

I'm no arborist but it appears the pine trees may be dying or at the very least desperately need to be watered as the pine needles are turning yellow.


Wakey wakey Sisk.

Yes the poor pine trees are struggling. Holy God you'd expect them to water these trees. Seems like a big waste of money to plant trees and not to look after them in even the most basic way.

Dr Turk Turkelton

How are the poor pine trees not thriving in the almost Scandinavian climate of Greystones?

red_bairn

Throw a bit of salt water on them sure! They'll be grannnnnnnnd.

loyatemu

They were probably expecting Mother Nature to take care of the watering duties (this is Ireland after all) but actually it has been very dry for the last month or so.

red_bairn

loyatemu wrote: »

They were probably expecting Mother Nature to take care of the watering duties (this is Ireland after all) but actually it has been very dry for the last month or so.

Was back in Greystones on Sunday and I didn't realise how dry it had been until I saw the grass quite dry at home. Then again, it looks like Bray head keeps going on fire! :rolleyes:

red_bairn

Article in the Irish Times about the new houses:

http://www.irishtimes.com/life-and-style/homes-and-property/new-to-market/greystones-marina-homes-a-decade-in-the-making-1.2766740

Harry Kane

I had to laugh at the latest property porn from the Irish Times promoting the new dwellings on reclaimed land adjacent to an old dump and an eroding coastline. Caveat emptor!

2011

Harry Kane wrote: »

I had to laugh at the latest property porn from the Irish Times promoting the new dwellings on reclaimed land adjacent to an old dump and an eroding coastline. Caveat emptor!

Most people won't be able to afford these homes, however I have no doubt that they will sell like hot cakes.

You won't be laughing alone either, a number of people stand to make a significant profit from these sales.

Blandpebbles

2011 wrote: »

Most people won't be able to afford these homes, however I have no doubt that they will sell like hot cakes.

You won't be laughing alone either, a number of people stand to make a significant profit from these sales.

Lovely balconies which will look out on a block of apartments.

Quote from agent 'well yes the view is blocked but why would you need a view when you can walk 2 mins to the sea' err because it's 655k!

2011

Blandpebbles wrote: »

Lovely balconies which will look out on a block of apartments.

Quote from agent 'well yes the view is blocked but why would you need a view when you can walk 2 mins to the sea' err because it's 655k!

They wouldn't be my choice even if I could afford it, but I still think they will all sell rapidly. There are still plenty of wealthy people that will see these properties as a good investment. Time will tell.

Harry Kane

2011 wrote: »

They wouldn't be my choice even if I could afford it, but I still think they will all sell rapidly. There are still plenty of wealthy people that will see these properties as a good investment. Time will tell.

I have heard that getting insurance on these houses will be difficult. How would buying an uninsurable house be a good investment? Wealthy people are wealth for very good reasons and sinking money into an uninsurable house would not be their style.

LEIN

Harry Kane wrote: »

I have heard that getting insurance on these houses will be difficult. How would buying an uninsurable house be a good investment? Wealthy people are wealth for very good reasons and sinking money into an uninsurable house would not be their style.

Where did you hear that?

2011

Harry Kane wrote: »

I have heard that getting insurance on these houses will be difficult.

From a reliable source no doubt :rolleyes:
Can you post a link to support this?

Wealthy people are wealth for very good reasons and sinking money into an uninsurable house would not be their style.

Within one post it has gone from being "difficult" to insure these properties to the properties being "uninsurable", amazing :D:D

Time will tell, but I think we both know that these properties will all sell rapidly.

legrand

can't corroborate the Insurance statement above. But most of you will be aware of the typical questions insurance companies ask... any large trees within X metres of the house, is house within X metres of the sea etc. 'Fail' on these type of questions could mean the insurer will refuse to quote. That said, it may be possible to insure via a broker who sometimes seem to be able to overcome these difficulties (I know I did due to a flat roof question)

Tabnabs

No worse than the seafront in Dublin, but Greystones is overdue a good easterly gale.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rbxg15Fo2vw

yesap

For all the talk on this thread about either liking or disliking the change from old harbour to new, it has to be said that the marina will protect the houses behind so no chance of insurance issues.

The drains did block a few years back that flooded all around the beach house pub...That was due to the ongoing development blocking drains though

Further on down the north beach towards Bray and past the Marina will be in threat in years to come due to erosion, think that is 1metre per year currently

loyatemu

when I was getting house insurance quotes this year at least one of the websites asked me if the house was within 50 metres of a river/lake/sea. They'll be able t get insurance, but it may be more expensive because of their proximity to water, regardless of how unlikely they are to be flooded.

yesap

loyatemu wrote: »

when I was getting house insurance quotes this year at least one of the websites asked me if the house was within 50 metres of a river/lake/sea. They'll be able t get insurance, but it may be more expensive because of their proximity to water, regardless of how unlikely they are to be flooded.

Yes, that is fair enough and I would expect that question from an insurer. I was responding moreso to Harry Kane's post above whereby he had spoken about uninsurable houses... Without any fact behind it

Tabnabs

The new Coastguard station at Greystones harbour will not be built, according to Wicklow Councillor Derek Mitchell who says that after 12 years of discussions, planning and building at the harbour the Coastguard has decided to pull out.

The Coastguard have told Wicklow County Council that ‘it is deemed no longer viable to pursue the development at this site due to lack of funding in meeting the requirements’, Councillor Mitchell told Afloat.ie

‘I am very annoyed the Coastguard say it is not viable to build the station at this site in Greystones. The Council has given them a valuable site specially constructed on the new pier and built a special slipway for them. It is incredible that after 12 years discussions, planning and building the harbour they pull out' he said.

Councillor Mitchell also said 'I gather that the problem is that the building is costly because the site will be subject to storm waves, however the Greystones Sailing Club and four other clubs have been constructed with this in mind. They should put the boat on the calm marina and build a simpler less costly building. To my mind getting the boat going is much easier and safer from the marina than slip launching from the outer basin which can be rough in easterly winds’.

http://www.afloat.ie/port-news/irish-marinas/greystones-marina/item/33868-new-greystones-coastguard-station-not-viable

More wasted money and hot air from the Sisk representative; Councillor Derek Mitchell. World class harbour indeed...

loyatemu

Tabnabs wrote: »

http://www.afloat.ie/port-news/irish-marinas/greystones-marina/item/33868-new-greystones-coastguard-station-not-viable

More wasted money and hot air from the Sisk representative; Councillor Derek Mitchell. World class harbour indeed...

yeah, nice priorities...

Essential:

• 2 story sailing club clubhouse with sea-view from the bar.

Optional:

• coastguard station.

loyatemu

Tabnabs wrote: »

http://www.afloat.ie/port-news/irish-marinas/greystones-marina/item/33868-new-greystones-coastguard-station-not-viable

More wasted money and hot air from the Sisk representative; Councillor Derek Mitchell. World class harbour indeed...

yeah, nice priorities...

Essential:

• 2 storey sailing club clubhouse with sea-view from the bar.

Optional:

• coastguard station.

why didn't they make Sisk build it along with all the other stuff.

Oldlegs

loyatemu wrote: »

yeah, nice priorities...

Essential:

• 2 storey sailing club clubhouse with sea-view from the bar.

Optional:

• coastguard station.

why didn't they make Sisk build it along with all the other stuff.

The various club houses had to be rebuilt because the existing club facilities were being demolished as part of the overall plan.

The coastguard never had a facility at the harbour AFAIK. But the development plan included the provision of a site beside a slipway. Now 12 years later, having been given plenty of notice that they were going to get this site they are saying that they have no funds to build it. If the Coastguard had said that 12 years ago there could have been an argument as to why that was not included in the overall scheme of things. But it looks like there are only now coming out and saying they have no funds available.

There are loads of things to complain about how local politicians behaved over the course of this development. I don't think this is one of them though.