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Agent Coulson

https://twitter.com/WWESheamus/status/572051845222412288/photo/1

Vision of Disorder

rovert wrote: »

internet cred

An oxymoron surely?

Palo Alto

Vision of Disorder wrote: »

An oxymoron surely?

Vision of Disorder for wrestling thread Hall of Fame.

rovert

AJ Lee fans on Twitter have decided she is returning tomorrow. Raw is in New Jersey.

This is their Raw is in Chicago/CM Punk seemingly.

Rjd2

Bill Demott was trending not to long ago,for alleged bullying physically and mentally.:eek:




http://www.reddit.com/r/SquaredCircle/comments/2xphrq/bullyingneglect_in_wwenxt_medical_staff_must_read/

MUST HEAR: Former WWE NXT Superstar Judas Devlin Breaks his Silence!
Vendetta Pro Radio 2K15 returns with another edition! Hosts Joseph Duncan and Billy Blade are joined by their special guest: former WWE NXT Superstar Austin Draven (Austin Matelson) - (formerly known as Judas Devlin).
In this Must Hear Interview Austin discusses... * Negligence, bullying, inappropriate remarks referencing sexual orientation, favoritism & politics in WWE Developmental *Bill Demott's Bullying tactics & lack of compassion *His Injuries being misdiagnosed by WWE Medical Staff *His Infamous "JUDAS" Letter
This is a Show where we will have to mention that the thoughts and opinions expressed by our guest are solely his own, and do not necessarily reflect those of Vendetta Pro Wrestling, it's sponsors or affiliates. In other words, it's gonna be a good one! Join us for this special edition of Vendetta Pro Radio 2K15! Below is a Transcript of Austin's now Infamous "JUDAS" letter in its entirety: March 11th, 2013
Memo To: Canyon Ceman, Dorothy Brill, Jane Geddes
Memo From​Austin Matelson
Subject: ​Coach Demott
I am composing this memo today because I have had a number of serious concerns about the actions and words of head coach Bill Demott during my employment as talent for WWE developmental. Many of these actions I have tried to ignore or hope that they would cease but because they have now put me in a dangerous situation not only for my career but for my personal health and safety I feel the need to speak out to someone of a higher authority. In this memo I will provide details on a series of incidents which underlie my concerns.
I would like to request that this remain in strict confidence as I am afraid that if Coach Demott were to know I spoke out he would find ways to punish me for it. In fact the entire process of writing a letter to human resources has been called a “******s” way of dealing with problems by Coach Demott.
Physical Injury Due to Imprudent Coaching: The action that has led me to finally speak out happened Thursday February, 28th following our house show. I had taken an awkward hit to my knee in a match and was being examined by Brian Duncan. This hit aggravated a previous injury, one that should never have happened, that I had sustained during a practice drill orchestrated by Coach Demott after practice had already been completed. An MRI revealed a partial tear of my PCL and a strain on a ligament in the back of my knee. I have been told that I can work through it but it may aggravate here and there. This injury can be enduring as many of the superstars on the main roster wrestle their whole careers with it.
I should never have had any issues with this knee but on that particular practice day, after a 3 hour morning session had ‘ended’ at 11 AM, Demott put 280lbs Gary Jackson back in the ring at 11:30 and forced 8 of us to give him 10 takedowns each. After Gary had bumped 60 times in a matter of minutes, I entered the ring and was asked to give him 10 fireman takedowns. On the first one he collapsed from exhaustion while on my back, driving my knees into the mat where I sustained this injury.
The hit I took aggravated it and Coach Demott pulled trainer Brian Duncan and I into the training room and said without any knowledge of my actual injury, “This injury can’t keep flaring up. It doesn’t look good perception wise to us (the office) or for your career going forward.” This injury was treated after the match and I was cleared by Duncan at the time.
Based on Coach Demott’s statement I feel that I am in a position where I have to cover up any injuries I may have otherwise I will be punished or fired. The following week I was in severe discomfort but fearing repercussions I attempted to work through it. Coach Demott has not only instilled this fear in me but I have spoken to several other members of the roster who have been made to feel by Coach Demott that their current injuries are signs of weakness as men, and could potentially lead Coach Demott to advocate for their firing.
On two separate occasions Coach Demott forced me to perform dangerous moves without properly warming up. One incident followed my first evaluation where Canyon Ceman asked me to start working on my parkour and gymnastics moves. It was 7:30 am before practice and he saw me standing in the ring with Enzo Amore and said, “Do a takedown let go of him and do a back flip then go back to him.” The idea made no sense, I was not properly warmed up, and I nearly landed on my head on one attempt. Thesecond incident was before a live event he wanted Oliver Gray to test out his finisher on someone so he grabbed me and forced me to take a high bump on my neck without warming up. I had missed a week of practice because of a neck strain prior to this and Coach Demott was well aware of that.
I have also watched and participated in drills that were hazardous to our safety. He has made us do squats on the top rope including some students who had never been up that high in their careers. He made the beginners group perform monkey flips without a crash pad and the first six who participated landed on their heads and necks and were lucky not to have been seriously injured. The aforementioned drill in which Gary Jackson injured my knee also saw Memo Montenegro injury his neck and shoulder. He was on his 40th bump in 5 minutes and got dizzy before his 7th consecutive hip toss and landed on his head.
Unprofessional Work Environment: The issue of physical well-being is not my only concern. I am an educated individual who worked at Cal State Northridge with Professors and students. I know how one is suppose to conduct one's self in a professional sense. I also understand that this is a unique business and the lines on proper behavior may be a bit blurred. Yet there is no question that Coach Demott, on a daily basis,not only makes unprofessional choices in words and actions, choices that go against many policies of this company, but choices that have created a culture of fear and negativity in this system. Showing up each day for training is mentally agonizing because of the comments we are all forced to hear. He routinely makes fun of anyone sitting out because of injury and also makes rude comments about people’s names and personal lives and has established a hostile work environment through verbal assaults. To wit:
• Demott constantly refers to Oliver Gray as Joel Pedophile which personally enrages me because I used to help a Psychology Professor in Los Angeles do lectures for sexually abused children. • When Dante Dash referred to his finishing move as the Davey boy, as it was utilized by the late Davey Smith who died tragically, Coach Demott makes the following comment, “The Davey Boy? What turning blue and dropping dead on the lawn?” • Coach Demott told student Enzo Amore that he hopes he dies. • Demott also told our entire morning class and Ricky Steamboat's class to kill themselves just days after we tolled the ring bell 10 times for the late Mike Graham a former star FCW wrestler, who committed suicide. • Coach Demott routinely bullies Enzo verbally as well as physically. I have seen Enzo on several occasions be slapped in the face by Bill. During one practice he decided to show Enzo how doing a slam wrong could hurt someone, so he picked Enzo up and dropped him without warning directly on his head and neck. He then decided that each time a student slammed his 100lbs heavy bag with bad form that student had to slam one of his peers the same way.

Demott found this drill amusing yet each student was put at serious injury risk. • Demott has grabbed an injured David Harwood by his neck pulled him to the office door and verbally chastised him for standing by the ring during practice when he wasn't cleared, even though he was simply listening to a lecture by Ricky Steamboat. • Demott has kicked Memo Montenegro in the groin and laughed as he crumbled into a heap. Memo being a Mexican immigrant to the United States has a heavy accent, which Coach Demott constantly criticizes and makes fun of. • He routinely will attempt to bust students lip on the bottom rope when they stand to close to the ring. On several occasions he has punished students for mistakes in practice by making them bend forward putting their face near the ropes so that Coach Demott can bounce the rope off the bridge of their nose. • He routinely calls Gary Jackson a fat tub of goo, tells Osmund Cherry who is of African descent, to go back to Africa and most recently has made derogatory remarks about sexual preferences to Brandon Traven. • Coach Demott insinuated that Traven is gay and used the derogatory term "half a sissy" to make fun of him simply because he sat out practice and has had several injuries in the last couple months. This is not the first time he targeted Brandon either. In December I witnessed Coach Demott question Traven about a head injury in the trainer’s room.

After Traven explained that a blow to the head in practice had made him dizzy Demott slapped him in the head and left the room. • I witnessed a similar incident a few months ago when Alexander Russev was recovering from neck surgery. Coach Demott saw Russev wearing a NY Jets shirt at practice and not liking that sports team proceeded to physically grab Russev by the collar and rip the shirt off him. Russev was not cleared for any contact at that point and clearly showed physical pain after the incident. Following this incident a group of students were discussing how this sort of thing happened before with an injured Briley Pierce. Briley had a broken leg and Coach Demott kicked him in his medical boot. This happened before I was under contract but it nonetheless seems to fit a pattern of negligent and abusive behavior that I have observed with Coach Demott and is worth investigating further. • According to Oliver Gray, he was once told that if he sat out practice to rest a very bad low back injury that CoachDemott would pull him from the NXT tapings and from attending the Royal Rumble, even though the trainer had requested that Oliver sit out just one practice.

I have been in this system under Coach Demott for 8 months now and was recently told that I am not improving at a rate that is acceptable. I have made concerted efforts in the past to practice more often and work on the parkour moves requested by Canyon Ceman. However Bill has routinely kicked me out of the building after practice including a day when WWE superstar Alex Riley asked me to work on some parkour moves with him. This along with his constant interrupting of practices just to put people down and make negative comments has all but killed any motivation I have to spend extra time around him.

It should be stated that I am not a vindictive person. I am open-minded and do not have a problem with off-color jokes or difficult practice drills. I was signed to this company after Steve Regal told me he saw tremendous improvement in my ring work between tryouts. I told Mr. Regal that I could only imagine how good I could become working 24/7 for this company. I have always been intrinsically motivated and will practice something until I perfect it. Yet I personally feel that coach Demott creates an environment that hinders my opportunities to improve. Coach Demott restricts our practices, instead opting for dangerous and unproductive drills, while constantly verbally assaulting our appearances, personalities, sexual preferences, injuries, and character it seems impossible for me to maximize my time in the ring. In fact even as recently as training on March 4th, guest trainer Lance Storm went out of his way to demonstrate moves to me that Coach Demott had kicked me out of the building for not doing correctly. When I asked him how to do them Coach Demott said, "That was **** Judas, get out of the building."

Is this the type of work environment that the WWE desires? When can we set up a time to discuss this matter?

In closing I would be remiss if I did not clarify to you that this is solely a problem with Bill Demott and not a problem with the fine coaching staff that has been assembled around him. For example, Ricky Steamboat has been a terrific help to me and always provides me with positive reinforcement and quality examples to learn from. Terry Taylor has gone out of his way to pull me aside and give me helpful advice. Billy Gunn has been an amazingly refreshing force bringing knowledge and enthusiasm that has been extremely beneficial to the system. The changes that have recently occurred in the WWE have been excellent and I am excited for the future plans of WWE Developmental. It is because of these positive attributes that I am expressing my concerns to you. I want to be a part of a solution to the problems that I have listed, one that will lead to future success for the developmental system.
Thank you for your time, Austin Matelson LISTEN HERE: http://www.blogtalkradio.com/vendetta-pro-radio/2015/02/26/vendetta-pro-radio--22515-w-austin-draven

briany

Why the hell does WWE have feckin' Hugh Morrus training anyone? Is it possible that they use him for the very reason that he IS a hard ass and a bully? He's like the WWE version of Sarge.

A Primal Nut

Wonder why they don't send this to all the mainstream media. They would eat a story like this up and WWE would at least have to respond.

Riddle101

I f*cking hate Bill Demott with a passion. He's had a history with this type of thing as well as far as I can remember. But you know WWE seems to reward people like Bill. They seem to turn a blind eye to bullies, which makes me think that they actually want it this way.

Mr.Nice Guy

Interesting that Gunn got praise. I remember him defending Holly's assault of Matt Cappotelli which I thought was absolutely disgraceful.

Seems to be a culture among many in the industry to hurt rookies as some sort of initiation practice. I was listening to Jericho's recent podcast with Lance Storm and Jericho mentioned that when being trained he was asked to do some sort of dangerous move that he'd never done before. It may have been a back drop of some sorts, I forget.

That's the sort of thing, though, that would worry me if I sought to learn how to wrestle. Looking after those that place their trust in you ought to be a top priority.

leggo

There's a certain logic to giving younger wrestlers a hard time, that I don't disagree with: you're going to be putting a lot of time and energy into them if they are to succeed, so if they don't have it mentally or physically, it really is best to chase them out of the business ASAP. Not doing so just breeds a locker room of idealistic kids who've watched too many 'WWF Desire' videos when they were young and just don't have it, wasting the time of those that do.

However that line gets blurred and abused massively by guys who have serious issues, like DeMott seems to be judging on these reports. Guys who take pleasure in humiliating, hurting and degrading others just to feel better about themselves.

Having said that, two sides to every story and all, and I'd love to see if we'll hear anything more about this kind of behaviour. Especially from guys who actually 'made it'. There's always the possibility that this is a gross exaggeration by a wrestler bitter about not making the grade. They'll ALWAYS look for someone else to blame. You can never discount that factor, it's rampant in wrestling, to the point that I'm naturally cynical whenever I hear anyone bashing someone else publicly.

Stereomaniac

Man, Bill DeMott needs to be hauled into Vince McMahon's office it looks like. This actually reminds me of some situations that I have witnessed in the workplace myself. You'd think that WWE would be on top of this stuff though. I mean, there should be a zero tolerance policy on that kind of behaviour. Why would you bother giving younger workers a hard time, if they aren't giving you a hard time though? I know the stories of The Rockers and Randy Orton having serious chips on their shoulders when they came into the business first, but there seems to be a culture of rookies having to "serve their time" which is completely prehistoric in its nature. If someone doesn't think a talent is worth it, then it's up to the booker to decide that this person has no place on the show, surely.

Moneymaker

Stereomaniac wrote: »

Man, Bill DeMott needs to be hauled into Vince McMahon's office it looks like. This actually reminds me of some situations that I have witnessed in the workplace myself. You'd think that WWE would be on top of this stuff though. I mean, there should be a zero tolerance policy on that kind of behaviour. Why would you bother giving younger workers a hard time, if they aren't giving you a hard time though? I know the stories of The Rockers and Randy Orton having serious chips on their shoulders when they came into the business first, but there seems to be a culture of rookies having to "serve their time" which is completely prehistoric in its nature. If someone doesn't think a talent is worth it, then it's up to the booker to decide that this person has no place on the show, surely.

Vince would give him a promotion tbh.

Whosthis

Is that letter not about a year old?

rovert

Whosthis wrote: »

Is that letter not about a year old?

Closer to two years. There's been an internal investigation since where no action was taken against Demott. Devlin has sued WWE via an insurance company for a pay out since then too.

Triple H personally hired Demott to be a drill Sargent and to weed out people. Demott was a known quantity. Also Triple H's office has a big screen that displays all the cameras in the Performance Center. He knows what is going on.

In short nothing will come of this.

rovert

Rey has returned home to Mexican promotion AAA:

https://twitter.com/luchalibreaaa/status/572843835006558209

It is really a massive deal.

Mr.Nice Guy

Simon Cowell has told The Sun he is interested in bringing British wrestling back to TV:

"I used to watch it as a kid - I used to do it! Now American wrestling's big, I think it's a good idea to bring it back. But you have to bring back really big people."

He was asked about it after an audition by a wrestling act for the latest series of Britain's Got Talent.

There's probably nothing much to it but if it were to ever return to TV I'd hope it would be treated more seriously than that Celebrity Wrestling disaster that they did that one time.

gnfnrhead

Mr.Nice Guy wrote: »

Simon Cowell has told The Sun he is interested in bringing British wrestling back to TV:



He was asked about it after an audition by a wrestling act for the latest series of Britain's Got Talent.

There's probably nothing much to it but if it were to ever return to TV I'd hope it would be treated more seriously than that Celebrity Wrestling disaster that they did that one time.

Up until fairly recently their was British wrestling on TV. Not sure if it is still on or not. It was pretty awful. In order for that to change, it would require a lot of investment that I can't see anyone willing to do.

rovert

PWInsider.com contacted WWE last night regarding the DeMott story. This afternoon, we received back the following statement:

“WWE took the accusations made two years ago by Austin Matelson very seriously, conducted a full investigation and was unable to validate the claims. Regardless, WWE continues to reinforce policies and procedures to ensure a positive training environment.”

gnfnrhead

rovert wrote: »

PWInsider.com contacted WWE last night regarding the DeMott story. This afternoon, we received back the following statement:

“WWE took the accusations made two years ago by Austin Matelson very seriously, conducted a full investigation and was unable to validate the claims. Regardless, WWE continues to reinforce policies and procedures to ensure a positive training environment.”

I can imagine how it went.

"Bill, is this true?"
"No."
"Okay, next."

Riddle101

rovert wrote: »

Rey has returned home to Mexican promotion AAA:

https://twitter.com/luchalibreaaa/status/572843835006558209

It is really a massive deal.

I suppose it's good for Rey in a way. He'll most likely retire in the promotion where he started his career. Not to mention in front of his own people as well. I could see his last match being a Mask Match(Or whatever match it is where the wrestler unmasks if he loses). Even though he's already unmasked before.

rovert

gnfnrhead wrote: »

I can imagine how it went.

"Bill, is this true?"
"No."
"Okay, next."

Actually they had a big meeting with the roster with Bill there and they were asked if anyone wanted to speak up. No one did.

The memo leaked around the office seemingly it was Dorothy Brill. It got to Bill Demott. So the well was poisoned before the meeting took place and the mouth was put on Judas before it. Judas found out the memo must have been leaked as he rang a couple of people for a lift to a NXT live event. Everyone said no and that he couldn't ride with him any longer as he had too much heat.

Again this was 2 1/2 years ago. Judas never even stepped into the Performance Center he was well gone by the time it opened. Things have gotten better with Bill by all accounts. He's still uber political snake in the grass though.

Moneymaker

He's well known to be a massive dick, but that is only one side of the story.

It looks bad but without knowing the context in which these things were done or said, you can't make a 100% judgement.

leggo

rovert wrote: »

Actually they had a big meeting with the roster with Bill there and they were asked if anyone wanted to speak up. No one did.

The memo leaked around the office seemingly it was Dorothy Brill. It got to Bill Demott. So the well was poisoned before the meeting took place and the mouth was put on Judas before it. Judas found out the memo must have been leaked as he rang a couple of people for a lift to a NXT live event. Everyone said no and that he couldn't ride with him any longer as he had too much heat.

Again this was 2 1/2 years ago. Judas never even stepped into the Performance Center he was well gone by the time it opened. Things have gotten better with Bill by all accounts. He's still uber political snake in the grass though.

If true, that pisses me off. It's so indie wrestling - the whole, 'everyone bitches about someone until someone else makes a stand then nobody stands up against them and phase out the guy who had the balls to speak on your behalf, but was naive enough to think you weren't gutless' - and you'd like to think that WWE would be the type of company that would be bigger than this kind of playground behaviour. But nope, it's only magnified there.

I hope he takes them to court and absolutely drains them for cash on a harassment claim, dragging them through the media and making a mockery of their 'Be A Star' campaign. If they want to be an international corporation, they can start living in 2015. This guy at least seems to have the balls to take them to task, I hope he can see it through.

The word 'heat' needs to be sent back in a time machine to 1985 and left there. It has no use in any business in this day and age. That's 14-year old carry-on by a bunch of people who've failed to realise they're adults.

briany

leggo wrote: »

The word 'heat' needs to be sent back in a time machine to 1985 and left there. It has no use in any business in this day and age. That's 14-year old carry-on by a bunch of people who've failed to realise they're adults.

What about businesses that sell propane and propane accessories?

Stereomaniac

Moneymaker wrote: »

Vince would give him a promotion tbh.

You think so?

Riddle101

Story going around now that Samoa Joe has signed with WWE.

Samoa Joe is officially headed to WWE according to Dave Meltzer in his latest audio report at f4wonline.com. Dave noted that they’ve been negotiating for a while and a deal is finally in place. However no word on whether Joe will be working NXT or not.

Joe is currently signed with Ring of Honor. He’ll be wrestling 4 dates this month, with the final show taking place on March 27th, two days before WrestleMania 31

Not sure if he's going to WWE or NXT but interesting all the same. Although maybe if it was a few years back when he was really hot it would be much better. Samoa Joe of today is a shadow of his former self.

gnfnrhead

Seen earlier that he was misquoted. Meltzer said something along the lines of Joe only having the five dates so he could be heading to WWE. Pretty sure he never said Joe is going to WWE like that article suggests.

On top of that, Joe is 36 in a few weeks and far from his best in terms of being in shape. Unless it's a trainer role, it makes very little sense for either party. WWE have lots of younger guys sitting in NXT doing nothing and Joe could make far more working the way Styles does. I suspect the five dates only thing is Joe not wanting to commit to ROH full time in case NJPW make an offer like they did with Styles. This way allows him to do both.

gnfnrhead

EC3 speaks up about the bullying stories:

"Apparently there have been some very SERIOUS and DAMNING allegations concerning “BULLYING” in wrestling.

That the use of homophobic/racial slurs, unnecessary/detrimental physical abuse, and using positions of power to threaten jobs is real.

I took these accusations made by @RockstarSpud very seriously.

I PERSONALLY conducted a full investigation into the claims that I bullied him, assaulted him, verbally abused him, shaved his friends head, spit on him, etc. but was unable to validate these claims.

Regardless, I (as a Carter) continue to reinforce policies and procedures to ensure a safe working environment for all of TNA’s talents.

But @RockstarSpud if you further want to discuss this I will see you Friday #DestinationIMPACT"

leggo

gnfnrhead wrote: »

Seen earlier that he was misquoted. Meltzer said something along the lines of Joe only having the five dates so he could be heading to WWE. Pretty sure he never said Joe is going to WWE like that article suggests.

On top of that, Joe is 36 in a few weeks and far from his best in terms of being in shape. Unless it's a trainer role, it makes very little sense for either party. WWE have lots of younger guys sitting in NXT doing nothing and Joe could make far more working the way Styles does. I suspect the five dates only thing is Joe not wanting to commit to ROH full time in case NJPW make an offer like they did with Styles. This way allows him to do both.

Yeah, I don't see what he offers to WWE when they have the younger Steen on the payroll. Steen gives you everything you'd want out of Joe if you were WWE and has years on him, plus he's also not established in another televised product so he's perceived as a WWE creation to the mass audience.

On the EC3 story, he's just tweeted this:

https://twitter.com/EthanCarterTNA/status/573002341944848384

THIS is the type of credible person I was looking for to back up the reports. Now the story has gotten much more believable and very interesting...

briany

I'm not sure I understand the need to make virtually every wrestler coming in a WWE creation even if they've built up a brand somewhere else, with the exception of a guy like Sting. That seems to be in direct contrast to the previous way where they'd build upon the cache a wrestler had built elsewhere, if they had one. Well, I suppose I do understand it to an extent in that it probably tightens WWE's grip on them if the gimmick is successful because it's their intellectual property, but that's not necessarily sensible from a money standpoint. I understand building a character for rookies or people not used to working a mic but beyond that, I don't know.