Point-to-Point Thread

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2010 Spring Fixtures



Wed 30th Duhallow (F) Kanturk Dromahane, Co Cork L/H



Wed 30th Westmeath (H) & Longford (H) Killashee, Co. Longford. R/H



JANUARY

Sat 2nd Tipperary (F) Lisronagh Lisronagh, Clonmel, Co. Tipperary R/H

Sun 3rd United Hunt (F) Lisgoold Lisgoold, Co Cork R/H





Sun 10th Muskerry (F) Aghabullogue Dromatimore, Co. Cork. L/H
Sun 10th Shillelagh & District (F) Fairwood, Tinahely, Co. Wicklow. R/H

Sun 10th Stonehall (H) Toomdeely, Askeaton, Co. Limerick. L/H



Sun 17th Killeagh (H) Knockane, Killeagh, Co. Cork. L/H



Sun 17th Scarteen (F) Kilfeacle, Co. Tipperary. L/H



Sun 24th Dungarvan (H) Kilossera, Dungarvan, Co. Waterford. R/H



Sun 24th North Tipperary (F) Lisboney, Nenagh, Co. Tipperary. L/H



Sat 30th East Down (F) Tyrella, Downpatrick, Co. Down. R/H



Sun 31st Fingal (H) West Curragh, Naul, Co. Dublin. R/H



Sun 31st United Hunt (F) Carrigtwohill Clyduff, Co. Cork. R/H



FEBRUARY



Sun 7th Co. Clare (H) Belharbour Belharbour, Co. Clare. L/H



Sun 7th Island Hunt (F) Ballydarragh, Gorey, Co. Wexford. L/H



Sun 7th West Waterford (F) Tallow Shanakill Cross, Waterford. L/H



Sat 13th North Down (F) Kirkistown, Portavogie, Co. Down. L/H



Sun 14th Avondhu (F) Knockanard, Fermoy, Co. Cork. R/H



Sun 14th Co. Limerick (F) Rathcannon Rathcannon, Athlacca, Co. Limerick. L/H



Sun 14th Kildare (F) Punchestown, Naas, Co. Kildare. L/H



Sat 20th Iveagh (H) Bells Hill, Maralin, Co. Down. L/H



Sun 21st Duhallow (F) Kildorrery Rockmills, Co. Cork. R/H



Sun 21st East Clare (H) Garranboy, Killaloe, Co. Clare. R/H



Sun 21st Kilkenny (F) Kilbline, Bennettsbridge, Co. Kilkenny. R/H



Sat 27th Tynan & Armagh (H) Farmacaffley, Co. Armagh. R/H







Sun 28th Bray (H) Fairwood, Tinahely, Co. Wicklow. R/H







Sun 28th Carbery (F) Kilpatrick, Bandon, Co. Cork. R/H



MARCH



Sat 6th East Down (F) Tyrella, Downpatrick, Co. Down. R/H



Sat 6th Kilworth & Araglen (H) Ballynalacken, Kilworth, Co. Cork. R/H



Sun 7th Doneraile (F) Dromahane, Mallow, Co. Cork. L/H



Sun 7th Limerick (H) Lemonfield Crecora, Co. Limerick. L/H



Sun 7th South Westmeath (H) Listisson, The Pigeons, Athlone. L/H



Sat 13th North Down (F) Kirkistown, Portavogie, Co. Down. L/H



Sun 14th Cloyne (H) Cloyne, Co. Cork. L/H



Sun 14th Killinick (H) Lingstown, Tomhaggard, Co. Wexford. R/H



Sun 14th North Galway (F) Belclare, Tuam, Co. Galway. R/H



Sun 14th Premier (H) Horse and Jockey, Co. Tipperary. L/H



Sat 20th Iveagh (H) Bells Hill, Maralin, Co. Down. L/H



Sun 21st North Kilkenny (F) Parksgrove, Ballyragget, Kilkenny. R/H



Sun 21st West Waterford (F) Lismore Castle Farm, Co. Waterford. L/H





Sat 27th Co. Down (S) Derrydrummuck, Loughbrickland, Co. Down. L/H



Sun 28th Bree (F) Monksgrange, Rathnure, Enniscorthy, Co. Wexford. L/H





Sun 28th Duhallow (F) Liscarroll Knockardbane, Co. Cork. L/H



Sun 28th Galway Blazers (F) Newcastle, Athenry, Co. Galway. R/H



Sun 28th Tipperary (F) Lisronagh, Clonmel, Co. Tipperary. R/H











APRIL



Sun 4th Co. Clare (H) Dromoland Dromoland, Co. Clare. L/H



Sun 4th Suirvale (H) Fairyhill, Templemore, Co. Tipperary. R/H



Sun 4th Waterford (F) Ballydurn, Portlaw, Co. Waterford. L/H



Sun 4th Westmeath (F) Castletown-Geoghegan, Mullingar, Co. Westmeath. L/H



Mon 5th East Antrim (H) Loughanmore, Dunadry, Co. Antrim. L/H



Tue 6th East Antrim (H) Loughanmore, Dunadry, Co. Antrim. L/H





Sun 11th Laois (F) Stradbally Hall, Stradbally, Co. Laois. R/H



Sun 11th Louth (F) Rathnestin, Tallanstown, Co. Louth. L/H



Sun 11th United Hunt (F) Ballynoe Garryanne, Killavorilla, Cork. R/H



Sun 11th Wexford (F) Lingstown, Tomhaggard, Co. Wexford. R/H



Sat 17th Mid Antrim (H) Moneyglass, Toomebridge, Co. Antrim. L/H



Sun 18th Killeady (H) Dromahane, Mallow, Co. Cork. L/H



Sun 18th Limerick (F) Kilmallock Bulgaden, Kilmallock, Co. Limerick. R/H



Sun 18th Meath (F) & Tara (H) Tattersalls Farm, Fairyhouse, Co. Meath. R/H



Fri 23rd Killultagh, Old Rock & Chichester (H) Largy Road, Crumlin, Co. Antrim R/H



Sat 24th Killultagh, Old Rock & Chichester (H) Largy Road, Crumlin, Co. Antrim. R/H



Sun 25th Ballymacad (F) Newcastle, Oldcastle, Co. Meath. L/H



Sun 25th Duhallow (F) Dromahane Dromahane, Mallow, Co. Cork. L/H



Sun 25th East Galway (F) Feighmore, Eyrecourt, Co. Galway. R/H



Sun 25th Stonehall (H) Ballysteen Askeaton, Co. Limerick. L/H



MAY



Sat 1st Newry (H) Taylorstown, Co. Down. R/H



Sat 1st Tipperary (F) Lisronagh Lisronagh, Clonmel, Co. Tipperary. R/H



Sun 2nd Muskerry (F) Aherlabeg, Fernanes, Co. Cork. R/H



Sun 2nd North Kerry (H) Gortnaskehy, Ballybunion, Co. Kerry. R/H



Mon 3rd Muskerry (F) Dawstown Birch Hill, Grenagh, Co. Cork. R/H



Sat 8th Co. Limerick (F) Athlacca Tullerboy, Co. Limerick. R/H



Sun 9th Carlow Farmers (F) Donore, Bagenalstown, Co. Carlow. R/H



Sun 9th Co. Sligo (H) Sligo Racecourse, Cleveragh, Co. Sligo. R/H



Sun 9th United Hunt (F) Ballindenisk Watergrasshill, Co. Cork. R/H



Fri 14th Fermanagh (H) Necarne, Irvinestown, Co. Fermanagh. L/H



Sat 15th Fermanagh (H) Necarne, Irvinestown, Co. Fermanagh. L/H



Sun 16th United Hunt (F) Bartlemy Hightown, Bartlemy, Co. Cork. R/H



Sun 23rd Duhallow (F) Kanturk Dromahane, Mallow, Co. Cork. L/H



Sun 23rd Laois (F) Stradbally Hall, Stradbally, Co. Laois. R/H



Sun 30th Carbery (F) Clonakilty Dararra, Clonakilty, Co. Cork. L/H





JUNE



Sat 5th South Union (F) Kinsale Farrangalway, Kinsale, Co. Cork. L/H









Sun 6th South Union (F) Kinsale Farrangalway, Kinsale, Co. Cork. L/H



Mon 7th Ormond (F) Southpark, Ballingarry, Roscrea, Tipperary. R/H

Note: L/H = Left Hand Course R/H = Right Hand Course

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Here's the link to list of Secretaries for the point-to-points for the 2009/10 season:

http://www.p2p.ie/content.php?key=Secretaries

Wicked

tinahely point to point is on sunday and has not been cancelled yet.. surely its not going ahead??

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I'd say they are still hoping against hopes of holding it, but given the snow falls forecast and the blizzard that's outside at the moment, I'd say it's unlikely that it will go ahead.

Punchestown and Leopardstown are hoping for a mircle, too, as it's unlikely that racing will go ahead there at the weekend.

Punchestown managed to hold all 7 races at the New Year's Eve meeting last week despite the snow, which was great. The snow actually added a lovely atmosphere to the day.

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Just saw on the point-to-point website that 16 year olds will no longer be allowed to ride in point-to-points. They must wait until they're 17.

Full blog entry can be found here: http://www.p2p.ie/blog.php?blog_id=7

Wicked

convert wrote: »

Just saw on the point-to-point website that 16 year olds will no longer be allowed to ride in point-to-points. They must wait until they're 17.

Full blog entry can be found here: http://www.p2p.ie/blog.php?blog_id=7

knew this was coming in, i think its good, obviously 16 year olds wont

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Wicked wrote: »

knew this was coming in, i think its good, obviously 16 year olds wont

I don't know... I think if they have done the course at RACE which is now required of all riders, even those renewing their licences if they haven't had a minimum of 3 rides or held a licence for a certain amouint of time, and they're deemed to be capable riders, then they should be allowed to ride in point-to-points. Especially given that if they turn professional immediately they can ride in hurdles and chases on the racecourse at 16. Therefore, you can ride over fences on the racecourse at 16, but can't ride in a point-to-point, which, from the outside looks as if the policy hasn't been thought through fully.

There are an awful lot of good jockeys out there now who started riding in point-to-points at 16 who'll testify that that year gave them a huge amount of experience and stood to them greatly at an important time in their career.

smartaform

I've one racing on Saturday at the Tyrella meeting - Any other boardies going?

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smartaform wrote: »

I've one racing on Saturday at the Tyrella meeting - Any other boardies going?

Unfortunately not. I had hoped to go to the Fingal's ptp in the Naul, but it's cancelled. For some reason I have a feeling the next one I'll make is the Kildare's ptp in Punchestown on 14 Feb.

Is it worth putting a few quid on your horse on Sunday?

smartaform

I would say yes, but our rider can't make it...:eek::eek::eek:

So now need to find a replacement - any suggestions???

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smartaform wrote: »

I would say yes, but our rider can't make it...:eek::eek::eek:

So now need to find a replacement - any suggestions???

Aarrgh - I'd have volunteered, except I didn't renew my licence this year as I don't have a horse at the moment

Errmmm... suggestions... There's lots of QRs out there at the moment, but I don't know who I'd recommend. I'd be very particular over who I'd let ride my horse (but that's just me), and my first choice of rider has recently turned professional, so that's not much good to you. What type of rider are you looking for - i.e. - strong? Someone who'll follow instructions or who would read the race for themselves? Experienced rider or is it a novice riders' race?

smartaform

We were in luck today.
My rider who was meant to ride initially, put me in touch with one of his friends just back from the UK.

Panic stations though for a few hours..lol

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smartaform wrote: »

We were in luck today.
My rider who was meant to ride initially, put me in touch with one of his friends just back from the UK.

Panic stations though for a few hours..lol

It's a nightmare when something like that happens...

Glad you got sorted, and best of luck on Saturday. Let us know how you get on.

smartaform

So after sorting the rider out, getting everything together, we took off from Kildare at 8.30am... arrived on course at 11.45am.

Took the horse out of the trailer, walked for 10 mins THEN a loud speaker announcement -
TODAYS MEETING HAS BEEN CANCELLED

I later learned when i made my way over that they were concerned over a small patch of frost..... BUT THE PATCH WAS IN FULL SUNLIGHT and i say another half hour/hour would have been fit for racing...

I see on the p2p site that they moved the meeting to next saturday HOWEVER i will not be travelling up again.
There's a race for him at the Punchestown P2P meeting on the 14th feb so we go there instead...

I'm glad i only had 1 owner with me - he came over from London the night before, needless to say he was devastated....
Oh well is racing :rolleyes:

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smartaform wrote: »

So after sorting the rider out, getting everything together, we took off from Kildare at 8.30am... arrived on course at 11.45am.

Took the horse out of the trailer, walked for 10 mins THEN a loud speaker announcement -
TODAYS MEETING HAS BEEN CANCELLED

I later learned when i made my way over that they were concerned over a small patch of frost..... BUT THE PATCH WAS IN FULL SUNLIGHT and i say another half hour/hour would have been fit for racing...

I see on the p2p site that they moved the meeting to next saturday HOWEVER i will not be travelling up again.
There's a race for him at the Punchestown P2P meeting on the 14th feb so we go there instead...

I'm glad i only had 1 owner with me - he came over from London the night before, needless to say he was devastated....
Oh well is racing :rolleyes:

That's awful. It wouldn't be so bad if it was a meeting that was close by, but to go all the way to Tyrella, with owner in tow, and have that happen is just a nightmare.

I think whether racing goes ahead in a situation like that depends on who the steward(s) is/are on the day and how willing they are to wait and see. I remember years ago having to put straw and sacks on the ground either side of fences when frosty weather was forecast in the days before a point-to-point. I also remember being at a point-to-point in Tinahely after a night's heavy frost. They had put straw/sacks down, but were still concerned about one fence which was in the shade. After putting back the first race for half an hour, the decision was taken to leave out that fence and let racing go ahead.

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Actually, while we're (loosely) on the topic, is anyone else here thinking of heading to the point-to-point in Punchestown on 14 Feb?

MDFM

smartaform wrote: »

So after sorting the rider out, getting everything together, we took off from Kildare at 8.30am... arrived on course at 11.45am.

Took the horse out of the trailer, walked for 10 mins THEN a loud speaker announcement -
TODAYS MEETING HAS BEEN CANCELLED

I later learned when i made my way over that they were concerned over a small patch of frost..... BUT THE PATCH WAS IN FULL SUNLIGHT and i say another half hour/hour would have been fit for racing...

I see on the p2p site that they moved the meeting to next saturday HOWEVER i will not be travelling up again.
There's a race for him at the Punchestown P2P meeting on the 14th feb so we go there instead...

I'm glad i only had 1 owner with me - he came over from London the night before, needless to say he was devastated....
Oh well is racing :rolleyes:

That was the Longford meet today - yet another unsuccessful 3rd attempt to run it. For the life of me i cannot understand why they didnt decide to cancel it last night? I only live 4 miles away from the venue and last night at 5.30pm my yard was bright and shiny and covered in frost and it was -2 at that stage. I contacted one of the committee members this morning before 9am to see was it still on and they said it was..i couldnt understand it, it was even snowing at that stage, my paddock is rock solid all day and drinkers are frozen yet again. I know its no consolation to you and all the other owners/riders that travelled long journeys, but, the ground was really hard in places. we got there at 12pm, and left at 12.10pm, had just paid our entry fee and then heard the announcement that it was off. Why they think running it next sat will be better is beyond me..theres every much a risk of there being frost yet again like there has being for the past 2 days. i can't imagine too many people will go to that effort again and travel the same distance with their horses. Disappointing day all round for every one concerned. Hope you have better luck on your next day out, wherever that may be? If Longford goes ahead next sat i'm sure the turnout will be pretty dismal anyway!

chippiec1

Hi there...

What a disappointing weekend!! Went to Tyrella yesterday..cancelled..surely waiting an hour would have made all the difference? Today, travelled 3 and a half hours to Longford..cancelled again!! cant understand why it was even given the green light in the first place!!.
Maybe, if need be, contact you regards the weather before setting off to Longford next weekend!!
Although just seen the farming forecast and perhaps cold mid week with a milder weekend... heres hoping anyway!!

MDFM

chippiec1 wrote: »

Hi there...

What a disappointing weekend!! Went to Tyrella yesterday..cancelled..surely waiting an hour would have made all the difference? Today, travelled 3 and a half hours to Longford..cancelled again!! cant understand why it was even given the green light in the first place!!.
Maybe, if need be, contact you regards the weather before setting off to Longford next weekend!!
Although just seen the farming forecast and perhaps cold mid week with a milder weekend... heres hoping anyway!!

hey no probs, i'll log in early sat morning so and fill ye in on the weather situation. thing is i was sure this morning it wouldnt run so i was surprised at 9am, when i got word that it was going ahead! such a shame for the many horses and owners that made the long journey only to have to turn around and go home again.

smartaform

Hi MDFM,

How many did you have down to run??

MDFM

smartaform wrote: »

Hi MDFM,

How many did you have down to run??

oh none, i was just spectating as it's only a few mins drive away from me! Hopefully it'll go ahead this sat finally...though today again there was a lot of frost and ground is still quite hard.

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I think the reason as to why some point-to-points are only called off on the day is because the organisers will try to run the meeting at all costs (except safety, of course). Don't forget, the point-to-points are one of the biggest sources of income to the hunts.

finbarrk

Anyone for Bellharbour Sun.? Surely the most beautifull p2p course in the world!

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Ear to the Ground have a feature on point-to-pointing this evening at 8.30pm on RTÉ 1. It was recorded at the Dungarvan point-to-point.

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convert wrote: »

Ear to the Ground have a feature on point-to-pointing this evening at 8.30pm on RTÉ 1. It was recorded at the Dungarvan point-to-point.

Anyone see this feature? What did ye think? I thought O' Connor came across very well on camera with solid and easily accessible information about the whole point-to-point 'scene'.

smartaform

I saw a few minutes of it, but have recorded it anyway.
The bit i saw i thought Derek was a very friendly, down to earth guy. Info was good and showed a real Irish Race meet.

The P2P sceen is great at the moment BUT with the help of local media and of course RTE/TV3 it can be massive. I mean i only knew snippets of what p2p racing was for the first 2 years i was in ireland - if you knew of it the info was there, however a newcomer can be totally oblivious to what's going on!!

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For anyone who missed Ear to the Ground on Tuesday, you can watch it here.

chippiec1

Just wondering what ground is like for Longford tomorrow? take it no frost probs, is it very heavy going?

MDFM

chippiec1 wrote: »

Just wondering what ground is like for Longford tomorrow? take it no frost probs, is it very heavy going?

The land is in fairly good condition where the p2p is to be run..only thing is there has being fair bit of rain past 2 nights - so prob by end of 3rd race the going will be heavy enough.

chippiec1

Thanks for the update.....good luck to all tomorrow!