Ultra Street Fighter 4 Discussion Thread

Misty Chaos

I'm fairly underwhelmed by the changes to Juri, some of them are nice but buffing U1? You know, the ultra over 75% of Juri players ( including me ) DON'T use? Yeah.... thanks Capcom. :pac:

Don't get me wrong, I understand where they are coming from with the changes to U1 to try and make it more useful but it just feels like a cop out to me. That said, I can see myself using U1 against guile owing to the dash she'll gain after U1 activation, which will make dodging sonic booms easier. I'll have to mess around with that when AE2012 lands.

Guess I'll still be keeping up with Bison as well.

Fergus_

Misty Chaos wrote: »

I'm fairly underwhelmed by the changes to Juri, some of them are nice but buffing U1? You know, the ultra over 75% of Juri players ( including me ) DON'T use? Yeah.... thanks Capcom. :pac:

Don't get me wrong, I understand where they are coming from with the changes to U1 to try and make it more useful but it just feels like a cop out to me. That said, I can see myself using U1 against guile owing to the dash she'll gain after U1 activation, which will make dodging sonic booms easier. I'll have to mess around with that when AE2012 lands.

Guess I'll still be keeping up with Bison as well.

Juri's U1 has like one of the biggest comeback potentials in the game, you can do really nice resets during FSE and the buffs (especially meter build) will make it stronger

U2's nice, only really useful for j.mp > U2 (even then, it mostly whiffs mid-screen) and the cr.mk xx fireball fadc (2 bars, and scaling is a bit bleh) U2 and if the other player is good, they won't meet Juri air-to-air.

I think U1 is better since you potenially could get more damage from it than U2 and it gives Juri a nice comeback mechanic.

I use U2 anyway because I'm too lazy to captilize U1. :pac:

Dreddybajs

Misty Chaos wrote: »

I'm fairly underwhelmed by the changes to Juri, some of them are nice but buffing U1? You know, the ultra over 75% of Juri players ( including me ) DON'T use? Yeah.... thanks Capcom. :pac:

But maybe if they buff it it'll start getting used? Isn't that the whole point of buffing things?

UberPrinny_Baal

Dreddybajs wrote: »

But maybe if they buff it it'll start getting used? Isn't that the whole point of buffing things?

I think Dreddy's got some bullet proof logic here.

The alternative would be Capcom nerfing the one you currently use, to make you consider the one you don't.

Misty Chaos

That's all well and good but I was never a U1 specialist, that is what I was trying to convey. I'm more content to use U2 but I guess I should learn some FSE bnbs when AE2012 lands.

the 1st hardter

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gjLalmAHK-o&feature=youtube_gdata_player

on phone so i cant emebbed it. can someone do it for me and ill delete this post

K.O.Kiki

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gjLalmAHK-o

DAT PALM NERF

Darachnid

Playing against a good AE2012 Blanka will be like being dosed with Ketamine on a rough hollyhead crossing. Knockdown... oops... knockdown... oops... knockdown...etc...

the 1st hardter

no vega in video

but AIR DEMON COMBO LOOKS SICK

SirAuronDX

the 1st hardter wrote: »

no vega in video

but AIR DEMON COMBO LOOKS SICK

Holy ****. my dream...its come true. is it finally possibly to light punch shoryu then combo into it after jump? if so that'll be sick.

JohnMc1

Does anyone know when this update will be available?

Azza

13th of December or Tuesday week on consoles (not 100% sure about the PC version, buts its also getting the patch at some stage).
Its out tomorrow for the arcade versions.

Doctor DooM

I wonder if there will be stealth buffs and nerfs.

A couple of suprises here and there'd be cool.

Owwmykneecap

http://www.reddit.com/r/SF4/comments/mwsbh/super_street_fighter_iv_arcade_edition_version/c34hqm0

bush

Dudes on srk saying that blankas JUNGLE WHEEL nerf didnt really do anything to remove his unblockables

JohnMc1

Azza wrote: »

13th of December or Tuesday week on consoles (not 100% sure about the PC version, buts its also getting the patch at some stage).
Its out tomorrow for the arcade versions.

Thanks Azza.

aeonfusion

There may be unreported buffs and nerfs in version 2012 of Super Street Fighter 4 Arcade Edition, according to eLive Pro's Kim1234. A well respect player in the community, he recently tweeted these thoughts after playing the latest release of the game.


"There are hidden buffs and nerfs in SSF4 AE v2012. Bison's EX Psycho Crusher often whiffs from full screen ish distance. Headstomp trades a lot in the air."

hmmmmn

Azza

Ughhh, well to balance those nerfs out, they need to reduced every other characters health by 50%.

The Hound

EX Headstomp trades a lot now doesnt hit? It can even be beaten cleanly out of the air by lots of good normals and even air thrown.

Ex pc whiffing full screen sounds strange though. Iv seen it whiff full screenish once it absorbs a projectile or so.

Doctor DooM

aeonfusion wrote: »

hmmmmn

This is a good thing, for me at least, please let the stealth air throw nerf be rescinded

The Hound wrote: »

EX Headstomp trades a lot now doesnt hit? It can even be beaten cleanly out of the air by lots of good normals and even air thrown.

Ex pc whiffing full screen sounds strange though. Iv seen it whiff full screenish once it absorbs a projectile or so.

Air throw's beaten any head stomp since day 1, as does several of Guile's air normals. Being who it is though I'd guess he knows what he is saying.

Azza

All air throws should beat stomp if timed right, anyways you can't trade with air throws.

Must of been a hurtbox adjustment. I doubt they decreased the size of the hitbox, its already very small. Move had good priority against most forward jumps.

As for Ex.PC, could be hitbox being pushed further back, less active frames, or less travel distance.

I think its no real suprise some stealth changes made it in.....hopefully there is a some horrible nerfs for Guile, Honda and Akuma :P

Jun_DP101

Just had a set with Ryan Hart online. Will upload soon. ^^

Dreddybajs

Don't just upload your wins, Ryan hates that from comments of his I've seen on other videos. :pac:

the 1st hardter

Dreddybajs wrote: »

Don't just upload your wins, Ryan hates that from comments of his I've seen on other videos. :pac:

assuming jun won.........whats next, nutrient beating poognko???

Fergus_

Throw us a link here when it's done Jun!

Sabre0001

RopeDrink wrote: »

It's online... Anything can happen online

Would like to see Poongko's Seth performing flawless execution on some laggy crap connection

Not always flawless (I think from memory), but downright scary!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qHdNjRyomVU

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aMiu6-leNzU

Doctor DooM

Just in case anyone is unaware still, Seth has confirmed the change log is NOT complete. There's more stuff for us all to find.

Called that one

FutureGuy

Doctor DooM wrote: »

Just in case anyone is unaware still, Seth has confirmed the change log is NOT complete. There's more stuff for us all to find.

Called that one

Lolz. Still hope for Deejay yet, although I am not counting on anything extra.

UberPrinny_Baal

FutureGuy wrote: »

Lolz. Still hope for Deejay yet, although I am not counting on anything extra.

If Dan can get metre from taunting, I want Deejay to get metre for saying "Hey!"

Ramza

Just seen some Yang footage from 2012, my god, why did they nerf him so hard!

The nerf list for him was massive, it makes no sense, the worst one being his divekick nerf (they doubled the landing recovery afaik and also reduced the hit/block stun and increased its hurtbox)

Just watching some divekicks hit at heights which would combo fine in AE , and not even at heights I would deem broken or bad in any way, hitting quite low for Yang and STILL not comboing =[

Plus his st.lk nerf is gonna hurt, his dmg nerfs are fine, but removing invincibility on his roll kicks bar ex is a but dumb

Still gonna play him but gonna take a while to get used to new Yang