M17/M18 - Gort to Tuam [open to traffic]

ratracer

Ascii wrote: »

Does this answer you question? That spur off the roundabout will be to serve Kilternan national school and the Local road back towards Ballinderreen

It sure does, thanks!! About 5km from my house to the motorway via this interchange. Awfully nice of the designers to put it there for me

m17

The flyover at bauilphuil corofin pic 1 15/11/15 pic2 15/06/16

D'Peoples Voice

m17 wrote: »

The m18 flyover over the galway to dublin railway line 2 kms south of rathmorrisy 17/06/16

I assume the width of clearance to the "right" of railway line is to allow a second track to be laid there in the future....

L1011

D'Peoples Voice wrote: »

I assume the width of clearance to the "right" of railway line is to allow a second track to be laid there in the future....

Yes, all recent railway overbridge boxes are built with expansion in mind. 1->2 or 2->4. This was not the case in the past.

L1011

L1011 wrote: »

Yes, all recent railway overbridge boxes are built with expansion in mind. 1->2 or 2->4. This was not the case in the past.

Almost all railway bridges were constructed for two tracks, even where only a single track was laid. Just go on any single track line ant you'll see the track offset to one side at all bridges and on (rail) overbridges the abutments are in place for the second track deck.

Cookiemunster

m17 wrote: »

It's looking that way section 1 tuam to kilternan section 2 kilternan to gort

In your opinion I assume. Official word is still no staged opening.

m17

Cookiemunster wrote: »

In your opinion I assume. Official word is still no staged opening.

Pic 1 The m18 outside gort pic2 the m17 outside corofin

Cookiemunster

m17 wrote: »

Pic 1 The m18 outside gort pic2 the m17 outside corofin

It is your opinion then. They've said multiple times there won't be a partial opening.

Truckermal

Cookiemunster wrote: »

It is your opinion then. They've said multiple times there won't be a partial opening.

I think he should have a better idea in fairness.

spacetweek

Truckermal wrote: »

I think he should have a better idea in fairness.

There's no doubt about the differences in progress, but that doesn't mean there'll be a phased opening. They may finish part of it and sit on it for a while. I've seen the same thing occasionally happen in Spain and Greece.

m17

spacetweek wrote: »

There's no doubt about the differences in progress, but that doesn't mean there'll be a phased opening. They may finish part of it and sit on it for a while. I've seen the same thing occasionally happen in Spain and Greece.

Ah thats spain and greece this is ireland there Will be phased openings ive taken taken over 1800 pics to prove it there at least nine months ahead in the northern section

m17

The m18 between kilternan and gort

notharrypotter

m17 wrote: »

Ah thats spain and greece this is ireland there Will be phased openings ive taken taken over 1800 pics to prove it there at least nine months ahead in the northern section

Yes loads of photos but are you someone actually working on the project or just a fan?

m17

notharrypotter wrote: »

Yes loads of photos but are you someone actually working on the project or just a fan?

Just a fan that likes to keep you all updated on progress

Cookiemunster

m17 wrote: »

Just a fan that likes to keep you all updated on progress

We're all very grateful for the pics, but that's why myself and notharrypotter are saying that just because you think there will be a partial opening doesn't mean there will be.
In your opinion the N18 is 9 months behind the M17. But as your not an expert and not involved with the project, that's all it is, an opinion.

Kristopherus

Cookiemunster wrote: »

We're all very grateful for the pics, but that's why myself and notharrypotter are saying that just because you think there will be a partial opening doesn't mean there will be.
In your opinion the N18 is 9 months behind the M17. But as your not an expert and not involved with the project, that's all it is, an opinion.

Bloody hell, that post could'nt have been more denigrating:mad:.

JCX BXC

To be fair, M17 does provide valuable insight into the project, but its naive to take their word as Gospel, it's quite plausible to be incorrect in this instance.

Kristopherus

M18 ????:D

sonnyblack

Just to play devils advocate here, If M17 is right and Tuam to Kiltiernan progresses faster, does anyone know if the design of the Kiltiernan interchange lends itself to a phased opening? It's only natural for a construction company to stick to the published contract date until they are absolutely certain that a phased opening can be achieved.

Truckermal

Kristopherus wrote: »

Bloody hell, that post could'nt have been more denigrating:mad:.

Totally agree plus the two toads haven't even the decency to thank his posts I hate people like that. M17 is the best contributor to this thread where as the other two have only posted stupid waffle..

Cookiemunster

Truckermal wrote: »

Totally agree plus the two toads haven't even the decency to thank his posts I hate people like that. M17 is the best contributor to this thread where as the other two have only posted stupid waffle..

I'm sorry, but how is it stupid waffle? What M17 is doing is brilliant and the thread would be dead without his pics, but that doesn't make him an expert on road construction.
Until I hear from Direct Route or TII that's there's going to be a phased opening, then I'll continue to believe that's it's not going to happen.

marno21

m17 has local knowledge, which is invaluable in this instance. The TII's website isn't exactly a beacon of reference either, their road projects section is several years out of date. Yes, years.

glineli

m17 wrote: »

Just a fan that likes to keep you all updated on progress

Thanks for the great work, keep it going!

notharrypotter

marno21 wrote: »

m17 has local knowledge, which is invaluable in this instance. The TII's website isn't exactly a beacon of reference either, their road projects section is several years out of date. Yes, years.

I have in-laws living beside the section of the N84 currently being upgraded so I have "local knowledge".

However I have no opinion as to when they will be finished.

I appreciate the work as done by M17 but my point is that he should highlight that any of his posting to date over suggested opening times of the new road are his opinion only and he has no direct involvement in the project.

Truckermal

notharrypotter wrote: »

I have in-laws living beside the section of the N84 currently being upgraded so I have "local knowledge".

However I have no opinion as to when they will be finished.

I appreciate the work as done by M17 but my point is that he should highlight that any of his posting to date over suggested opening times of the new road are his opinion only and he has no direct involvement in the project.

If you were any good you would thank his posts and not questioning them considering the effort he goes to taking pictures every day. You have contributed SFA urself only complaining and moaning with your buddy Cookiemunster.

This is way off topic now so please don't take the thread off topic any more.

marno21

m17 wrote: »

Just a fan that likes to keep you all updated on progress

And long may it continue.

JCX BXC

Truckermal wrote: »

If you were any good you would thank his posts and not questioning them considering the effort he goes to taking pictures every day. You have contributed SFA urself only complaining and moaning with your buddy Cookiemunster.

This is way off topic now so please don't take the thread off topic any more.

Just because someone does put alot of work into something, does not mean they are immune to questions or criticism. I certainly respect the updates that M17 has given this thread, making it the liveliest in the Roads forum, but we cannot take everything a "fan" says as gospel. It's quite clear that it was an opinion as M17, and that's great, opinions are welcomed. The problem is posters jumping in and taking it as definite. If everything our government said was taken as truth then we would not be out first world democracy that we are today.

Cookiemunster

Truckermal wrote: »

If you were any good you would thank his posts and not questioning them considering the effort he goes to taking pictures every day. You have contributed SFA urself only complaining and moaning with your buddy Cookiemunster.

This is way off topic now so please don't take the thread off topic any more.

Nobody is questioning the effort he's putting into taking the pics. Everyone who reads this thread appriciates it ( you don't need to thank every single post and I've thanked many BTW), but that doesn't mean that he has inside knowledge to say when the road is opening. You're trying to defend something that's not even being questioned.

marno21

MOD: Enough of this. Back on topic of the M17/M18 scheme and how it's progressing. Not a long drawn out argument on the veracity of M17's posts. He has done an incredible amount of work for this thread and has seen first hand how the project is going, and can form an opinion based on his observations. The quarreling over the accuracy of his opinions stops here.

m17

marno21 wrote: »

MOD: Enough of this. Back on topic of the M17/M18 scheme and how it's progressing. Not a long drawn out argument on the veracity of M17's posts. He has done an incredible amount of work for this thread and has seen first hand how the project is going, and can form an opinion based on his observations. The quarreling over the accuracy of his opinions stops here.

I'll second that this forum is about the m17/m18 motorway and not me