CK401 Computer Science

Ricky91t

Who here is going into this?

Also to the people in it what's it like?What do you actually cover in the computer bit?The prospectus is abit vague,Anything in particular that's very tough and a definite to keep on top of?

Thanks

samf

See http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2055589988

Sepulchrave

I assume you are going in to first year?

You will be learning how to design web pages with (x)html, and css.
You will then use that when learning to program in php. Thats all CS1109.

You will learn basics of logic circuits (logic gates), bit of basic pc hardware, and some machine assembly language in CS1101.

You will learn about sets, functions (same as lc maths just more), relations, algorithms, propositional logic, predicate logic, graphs, trees in CS1105. EDIT: I forgot to include counting and combinations, paths, proofs, and big O notation.

You will learn about database management systems in CS1106, using SQL databases and the MySQL data manipulation and creation language, along with some relation algebra.

You will learn how to manipulate images, audio and a bit of video in CS1107.

You will learn about computer science in industry and what you can do with the degree in CS1108. There will be guest speakers and 5 site visits if it is the same this year as last year, we went to IBM, EMC, and Apple.

Any other questions just ask. I'm about to go into second year so I cant tell you anything about anything else except they have changed second year this year from last year!

Ricky91t

MJJOS wrote: »

I assume you are going in to first year?

You will be learning how to design web pages with (x)html, and css.
You will then use that when learning to program in php. Thats all CS1109.

You will learn basics of logic circuits (logic gates), bit of basic pc hardware, and some machine assembly language in CS1101.

You will learn about sets, functions (same as lc maths just more), relations, algorithms, propositional logic, predicate logic, graphs, trees in CS1105.

You will learn about database management systems in CS1106, using SQL databases and the MySQL data manipulation and creation language, along with some relation algebra.

You will learn how to manipulate images, audio and a bit of video in CS1107.

You will learn about computer science in industry and what you can do with the degree in CS1108. There will be guest speakers and 5 site visits if it is the same this year as last year, we went to IBM, EMC, and Apple.

Any other questions just ask. I'm about to go into second year so I cant tell you anything about anything else except they have changed second year this year from last year!

Thanks for that great help!I'm panicking abit about some of this stuff(already!! :P ) I only have a very basic knowledge in PHP and html will all these be done from scratch?

Sepulchrave

Do not panic! All is thought from scratch! From <?php echo "<p>Hello World!</p>"; ?> to the more complicated things like retrieving content from SQL databases to be displayed on your web pages using php while loops, result sets and MySQL in php, is all covered from scratch. No prior knowledge is assumed

My advice would be stay up to date with all labs, go to all lectures. You will make the end of year exams way easier. This is especially important in CS1101! No matter what you do, always go to CS1101!

sparkling sea

Hi,
Can anyone give me any information on computer science and economics. Whats involved, etc.

Are there compulsory module choices for both?

How difficult is it - would a C1 in pass maths be a good enough standard to get through the course.

Is computer science single honours an easier option?

Any help appreciated.

sleepyescapade

Going into 3rd year, have fun newbs :P

sparkling sea

Any one at all got any info on the Economics part of this course

Sepulchrave

I suggest you look here and read it carefully:

http://www.ucc.ie/calendar/science/sci006.html

It will give you all the information you need as regards to what doing the joint economics degree means.

You can also find out about all the modules it mentions here:

http://www.ucc.ie/modules/

omahaid

Sepulchrave wrote: »

There will be guest speakers and 5 site visits if it is the same this year as last year, we went to IBM, EMC, and Apple.

Any other questions just ask. I'm about to go into second year so I cant tell you anything about anything else except they have changed second year this year from last year!

God, when I did that degree, the only site visit we had was down to the western star

Sepulchrave

omahaid wrote: »

God, when I did that degree, the only site visit we had was down to the western star

Haha! The Western Star is gone now!

omahaid

Sepulchrave wrote: »

Haha! The Western Star is gone now!

Starting to show my age now :-)

Jeebus

What should I pick as my optional subject ? I have Spanish chosen atm since I speak it quite well and it will be handy enough for me. Would I be better of choosing Calculus or Maths/Applied maths further on in the degree ? I would struggle with Calculus I'd say, given my pass maths !

Ricky91t

Jeebus wrote: »

What should I pick as my optional subject ? I have Spanish chosen atm since I speak it quite well and it will be handy enough for me. Would I be better of choosing Calculus or Maths/Applied maths further on in the degree ? I would struggle with Calculus I'd say, given my pass maths !

In the same position myself,Don't wanna chance the maths cause I only did pass,Any one have any opinions on the other modules?

Jeebus

Ricky91t wrote: »

In the same position myself,Don't wanna chance the maths cause I only did pass,Any one have any opinions on the other modules?

Beginners Spanish...one step closer to my 1:1, so thats me decided !

Sepulchrave

I did MA1003 Introduction to Mathematics and Applied Mathematics. Due to personal health reasons I went to less than 10 lectures in the year, went to not one tutorial, missed one in class test out of 2, and came out with 84% in the module in the summer exams (marks derived from 2 in-class tests, and the summer exam), which was actually my highest mark on the summer exams. I however did higher level maths and higher level applied maths for my leaving cert so I have expierience hehe. The module in my opinion was easy, all the tests were very repetitive in terms of the questions, it was like in the same questions in every years exams with just different numbers. Yet I know many people had great difficulty with it, and many failed the summer test and had to repeat. Only myself and about 10 others tops from CS1 actually did it. So don't take my word for it. I was surprised people found it very hard. So I suppose if you had trouble with pass leaving cert maths maybe it's not for you. On the first day the lecturer "Bob" as we called him, said that the maths was not hard, and if you were looking for a challenge sadly you would not find it in this module. That's a direct quote. Still I stand by what I said before, if your maths is not strong, don't bother.

Information on MA1003:
http://www.ucc.ie/modules/descriptions/MA.html#MA1003

Information on MA1054 Calculus and Analysis:
http://www.ucc.ie/modules/descriptions/MA.html#MA1054

Information on HS0028 Spanish Language (Beginner [00] Level:
http://www.ucc.ie/modules/descriptions/HS.html#HS0028


You can also do: EC1401 (Foundations and Principles in Economics), MG1004 (Introduction to Management and Organisation), MG1903 (Introduction to Marketing), GE0001 (German Language Beginner [00] Level), GE0006 (German language (Intermediate [05] Level), FR1105 (Threshold French), FR1107 (Threshold French for Reading Purposes I), and IT1109 (Introduction to Written and Spoken Italian). You can look up all of these as well in the UCC Book of Modules available at http://www.ucc.ie/modules/

Hope that helps.

sleepyescapade

I did MA1003 with only an average pass in my LC Maths. It's definitely doable as the previous exam papers for both summer and CA exams are up on blackboard (some posted with answers), just practise these and you'll be fine.

Sepulchrave

Yep Meg has the right line of thinking here, I agree. All those papers on blackboard have sample answers. Well most of them. You could just practise practise practise and you would probably be fine. I'm just saying I know a lot of people who struggled this year. Of course that could be completely their own fault for not working!

If you have the determination for it there should be no problem

Besides, for the first 2 weeks they let you go to different lectures of the different optional modules. So you can mix a bit and see what you like and don't like, after 2 weeks then you need to make a permanent decision!

pearliefan

I'm going into this this year! I'm thinking of doing italian as my elective... has anyone done italian? good idea or not? i'm maybe thinking economics otherwise. but I like languages... and would it be better to do maths or something?

Jeebus

pearliefan wrote: »

I'm going into this this year! I'm thinking of doing italian as my elective... has anyone done italian? good idea or not? i'm maybe thinking economics otherwise. but I like languages... and would it be better to do maths or something?

Same boat as you man ! Italian does sound like fun though. If nothing else, you'll be able to chat up the Italians that come over for Summer courses....;).

pearliefan

Jeebus wrote: »

Same boat as you man ! Italian does sound like fun though. If nothing else, you'll be able to chat up the Italians that come over for Summer courses....;).

Just to point out, I am girl! :pac: hopefully not the only one in the course but we'll see!
I'll still be able to chat the hot Italians though and wow everyone else with my Italian! albeit beginners Italian...:pac:
you're going in this year yeah?

Ricky91t

Was also considering Italian,Meant to be an easy enough language from what i've heard :pac:

I'm still deciding though!

pearliefan

oh and does anyone know if the Italian teacher is any good?
What do you do in it like?
Is it all writing and crap or do you actually talk Italian?

x43r0

For those of you entering 1st Computer Science i'll see you on orientation day. I'm Damien and I am entering final year computer science. Please bombard me with questions on they day so i'll have something to do

Ricky91t

I'm assuming a laptop would be recommended for this as we wouldn't have full time access to the labs,Has anyone who's already done the course or started it recommend one?

sleepyescapade

Ricky91t wrote: »

I'm assuming a laptop would be recommended for this as we wouldn't have full time access to the labs,Has anyone who's already done the course or started it recommend one?

You do have access to the labs nearly all the time :S Unless I've misread somewhere. They're opened until about 10.30pm

omahaid

Ya, CS students have to have constant access to computers, and the labs are open 7 days a week IIRC until late. No need for laptop (although of course it helps )

Ricky91t

omahaid wrote: »

Ya, CS students have to have constant access to computers, and the labs are open 7 days a week IIRC until late. No need for laptop (although of course it helps )

I'll be living in Digs and most of the time only in cork for the week!I'd also like to be able to work from the digs as the winter probably isn't going to be the best walking/cycling weather :pac:

Anyway I went ahead and ordered one from dell (thanks to a loan off my mum as the offer was finishing this wensday!!) so if anyone is looking for a new pc keep an eye on adverts,Netbook is already sold :pac:

Ricky91t

x43r0 wrote: »

For those of you entering 1st Computer Science i'll see you on orientation day. I'm Damien and I am entering final year computer science. Please bombard me with questions on they day so i'll have something to do

Think i saw you today,Were you one of the people in read t-shirts which the CS group for the day?

BigDaddyCan

sparkling sea wrote: »

Hi,
Can anyone give me any information on computer science and economics. Whats involved, etc.

Are there compulsory module choices for both?

How difficult is it - would a C1 in pass maths be a good enough standard to get through the course.

Is computer science single honours an easier option?

Any help appreciated.

the joint honors is very easy in first year (economics wise)

i did it last year but am now repeating first year as i failed 2 cs modules so ya il be in with all the nubes!

dAvE_hR

When do classes start? I'm repeating and i havn't a clue.

BigDaddyCan

dAvE_hR wrote: »

When do classes start? I'm repeating and i havn't a clue.

monday morning at 9! have u registered?? pm me if u were in 1st year last year! (im guessing you were in which case i was in your class)

LEmmerdeur

There's an induction week next week so there's no normal lectures so people repeating presumably don't have to go...

BigDaddyCan

LEmmerdeur wrote: »

There's an induction week next week so there's no normal lectures so people repeating presumably don't have to go...

ya i was wondering was it gonna be this week.... i might stroll along any way!

Ricky91t

There was only 60 or so at the Orientation yesterday out of around the 100 someone mentioned on here...I assume if they don't turn up for orientation and registration they're removed from the course?

BigDaddyCan

official word from the department is 115 people regiested... nah orientation aint that important, the first week is fairly important tho! advice to any one starting, GO TO CLASS PARTIES! you will end up spending alot of time with these people over the next 4 years so you should get to know them!

oh ya and pass the exams... no one told me do that last year hence back to first year for me.... :P

was there any girls at the orientation? i heard rumour of 110 guys and 5 girls...

Ricky91t

BigDaddyCan wrote: »

official word from the department is 115 people regiested... nah orientation aint that important, the first week is fairly important tho! advice to any one starting, GO TO CLASS PARTIES! you will end up spending alot of time with these people over the next 4 years so you should get to know them!

oh ya and pass the exams... no one told me do that last year hence back to first year for me.... :P

was there any girls at the orientation? i heard rumour of 110 guys and 5 girls...

Girls yes,There was,Not 100% sure how many cause there was one or two in with our group even though they were doing arts

I can say I definitely saw three,Your rumour could be right..

Class parties?When?

And thanks for the exam advice :pac: Wouldn't of known what to do otherwise!

Sorry to here you failed,Do you know what it was on?Something tough?

BigDaddyCan

jawb.... load o tallent so:rolleyes:

ya i failed 5 in the summer then 2 in repeats - epic phail

i failed cs1105 and cs1109 (in my mind the hardest obviously!)

class parties is upto the class rep, i was one of the class reps but wont be taking that responsability again this year.. too much else on my plate!

dAvE_hR

ah BigDaddyCan, that time you arranged the class party and the place was closed was hilarious. i'll pm you my number there and give me a text when we head back for classes.

jonesy3131

If anyone gets a chance could they tell me what room were meant to be going to tomoro morning at 10? I had it written but lost it! I'd imagine I'll be able to find but it would just make things easier.

Cheers!

BigDaddyCan

has any one got a copy of the orientation timetable???

if so bang it up? im considering going to lectures for orientation!

dAvE_hR

Yea if someone could that would be great.

BigDaddyCan

where are we at 10 in the morning?

Ricky91t

jonesy3131 wrote: »

If anyone gets a chance could they tell me what room were meant to be going to tomoro morning at 10? I had it written but lost it! I'd imagine I'll be able to find but it would just make things easier.

Cheers!

BigDaddyCan wrote: »

where are we at 10 in the morning?

Did you find it?
We were switched from one room to another..

deRanged

how're ye finding things so far?
actually, can ye find anything? there's lots of very confused people wandering around

Sepulchrave

The building is fantastic! I saw the first year labs, pity there are no windows in it.

The second year lab is great, windows! However some people are sharing pc's because there are not enough :S Some people are having problems logging onto Kubuntu, and there is no flash player installed on the Kubuntu OS

Where is the wireless network? Our netbooks can't find any

Apart from that loving the place

Knasher

The wireless should be set up soon, there are wireless ap's around but obviously not turned on. I think they are waiting for the students to settle in before activating it so they can iron out any kinks that arise.

deRanged

Sepulchrave wrote: »

However some people are sharing pc's because there are not enough :S

seriously? I would have thought that with 19 labs ye'd be grand. I suspect there's still a few labs to be finished off and opened yet.

Some people are having problems logging onto Kubuntu, and there is no flash player installed on the Kubuntu OS

unles you need flash to work you may be out of luck.

Where is the wireless network? Our netbooks can't find any

another while yet I'd say (guessing). last time I heard a date it was October, or "when everything else is done". the wireless is a complementary service.

Ricky91t

deRanged wrote: »

how're ye finding things so far?
actually, can ye find anything? there's lots of very confused people wandering around

It's going well so far the new building is pretty cool,And although very confusing at frist i've got used to the place now..

Sepulchrave wrote: »

The building is fantastic! I saw the first year labs, pity there are no windows in it.

The second year lab is great, windows! However some people are sharing pc's because there are not enough :S Some people are having problems logging onto Kubuntu, and there is no flash player installed on the Kubuntu OS

Where is the wireless network? Our netbooks can't find any

Apart from that loving the place

Yeah the sharing is fairly annoying alright,I had to do for the first time in there and then had to spend part of lunch in G21(i think) catching up and sorting the stuff out.

Knasher wrote: »

The wireless should be set up soon, there are wireless ap's around but obviously not turned on. I think they are waiting for the students to settle in before activating it so they can iron out any kinks that arise.

That'll just be the same as the on campus wireless?Like we won't have to register machines again?

deRanged wrote: »

seriously? I would have thought that with 19 labs ye'd be grand. I suspect there's still a few labs to be finished off and opened yet.

unles you need flash to work you may be out of luck.



another while yet I'd say (guessing). last time I heard a date it was October, or "when everything else is done". the wireless is a complementary service.

On the lab i was in only internet explorer had flash and the rest of the browsers had nothing installed,Didn't even try to use linux or whatever it is yet..

Jeebus

Not enough hours. I feel like such a waster!

sleepyescapade

Fantastic Building! Currently sharing a lab with 4th years though, not sure for how long? Our actual lab is meant to be on the first floor but they have us down in G24. Odd.

Restaurant is great, but a little small - anyone else think that?

New computers are a lot better too.

Love the place :pac: