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McCabe Killers released

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    #152
    Joey the lips
    Registered Users Posts: 10,262 ✭✭✭✭Joey the lips


    Folks I like to think I have an open mind. I am even a bit open about alternatives but dont try and insult me and say you are surprised and shocked. Its just a load of bull and horse.

    I would be more shocked if ferris had not have stuck by his republicain ideals. In fact I have to say that ferris is more of a republician than many a couch patatoe i know. He has preached his ideals and stud by them and frankly folks he does not give a stuff about what yoyu think unless of course you support him.

    So dont loose any sleep oh and by the way if you honestly think that i believe that this has seriously made you consider about you voting sinn fein.....Yeah right! look at that! Flying pigs!

    I admire the man I always have and know what! Prob always will! anybody that sticks by what they believe in is to be admired.


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    #153
    mick867
    Registered Users Posts: 41 ✭mick867


    lynchiered wrote: »
    These men were trying to acquiring money to fund a war the Free State Goverment were afraid to fight. I do not consider this "Scummery".

    NO they werent

    this robbery was never sanctioned by the "Army Council"- Adams himself said that-

    The robbery was simply to provide money to build a house for one of the gang- He is currently on the run.

    No matter how wrong I think they are- nor how right you think their motives were-

    Do you really beleive that killing a Garda simply so they could rob money to build a house has furthered the cause of re unification.


    Bobby Sands was a skinny idiot- but he never once robbed anyone-


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    #154
    DoireNod
    Registered Users Posts: 863 ✭✭✭DoireNod


    mick867 wrote: »
    NO they werent

    this robbery was never sanctioned by the "Army Council"- Adams himself said that-

    The robbery was simply to provide money to build a house for one of the gang- He is currently on the run.
    Where is the proof for this? Just curious.

    Bobby Sands was a skinny idiot- but he never once robbed anyone-
    A skinny idiot? Is that a jibe at his hunger-strike? If so, shame on you. The man wasn't an idiot either. He was actually fairly intelligent.


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    #155
    galwayrush
    Registered Users Posts: 12,815 ✭✭✭✭galwayrush


    'Daddy, are those men really heros?'
    Yes son, they were brave freedom fighters in the war for our independence, and the struggle lives on'
    'Daddy, what did they do in the war to go to jail'
    'They shot a Detective while attempting to steal money from a bank'


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    #156
    Relevant
    Closed Accounts Posts: 474 ✭✭Relevant


    DoireNod wrote: »
    A skinny idiot? Is that a jibe at his hunger-strike? If so, shame on you. The man wasn't an idiot either. He was actually fairly intelligent.

    He wasn't intelligent enough to know that he should have been eating was he.

    It is interesting to see that your location is "free derry, Eire" Well you know what, take your bigoted, scumbag opinions and go back to where you came from.
    These men conducted an armed robberry and murdered a Garda in the country that they claim to be fighting for. Sinn Fein/IRA consistently say that these men were not acting under the instruction or banner of the IRA and yet when in any way criticised the usual bigoted Shinners are wheeled out to stand up for them. So tell me, if these men were not acting under the banner of the IRA and were in fact just committing a crime do you also support other criminals? Or is it just the ones who are using IRA weapons?


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    #157
    El Siglo
    Registered Users Posts: 3,803 ✭✭✭El Siglo


    Joey the lips wrote: »
    Folks I like to think I have an open mind. I am even a bit open about alternatives but dont try and insult me and say you are surprised and shocked. Its just a load of bull and horse.

    I would be more shocked if ferris had not have stuck by his republicain ideals. In fact I have to say that ferris is more of a republician than many a couch patatoe i know. He has preached his ideals and stud by them and frankly folks he does not give a stuff about what yoyu think unless of course you support him.

    So dont loose any sleep oh and by the way if you honestly think that i believe that this has seriously made you consider about you voting sinn fein.....Yeah right! look at that! Flying pigs!

    I admire the man I always have and know what! Prob always will! anybody that sticks by what they believe in is to be admired.

    So you admire a person on the basis that they "stick by what they believe in", this Sir is a most interesting concept perhaps you might admire the likes of Hitler, Stalin, Pol Pot, Mugabe et al. because these are also people who tended to "stick to what they believe in". Seriously, how can you admire a man like Ferris? He tried to subvert the law by smuggling arms for an illegal war that was not sanctioned by this state (or anyone other than the IRA for that matter), he in other words intended to contribute to needless deaths. And now because he is some sort of revered figure in Sinn Fein and that you can venerate his steadfast, albeit single-minded attitude that his actions are acceptable? Seriously, it's the 21st century, the war is over (officially), his party has signed an agreement in which a unified Ireland would only ever be achieved through a peaceful democratic process. Now, here's Ferris welcoming these thugs (they are thugs, dressed up in the thin veneer of Republicanism) back into society and they are thugs who were robbing a post office, even if it was sanctioned by the PIRA, it's not an excuse or a 'Golden Ticket' to go robbing and killing people.
    DoireNod wrote:
    A skinny idiot? Is that a jibe at his hunger-strike? If so, shame on you. The man wasn't an idiot either. He was actually fairly intelligent.

    I Agree with you on the fact that it was an unnecessary insult against Sands, he is one of these figures from the Troubles that a lot of people empathise with. However, "Intelligent" wouldn't be a word I would use to describe Sands, narrow-minded would be more apt.


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    #158
    mick867
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    El Siglo wrote: »

    I Agree with you on the fact that it was an unnecessary insult against Sands, he is one of these figures from the Troubles that a lot of people empathise with. However, "Intelligent" wouldn't be a word I would use to describe Sands, narrow-minded would be more apt.

    Sands wasnt intellegent enough to realise how stupiid it is to kill fellow Irish men

    simply to force them into accepting a United Ireland-

    He was caught with a handgun- he didnt respect the life of others

    why should any of us respect him.


    Narrow minded- more like narrow hipped


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    #159
    My name is URL
    Registered Users Posts: 25,060 ✭✭✭✭My name is URL


    No mention of Ferris on the news there now.

    Just the fact that the UK have decided not to press for extradition of the men.

    Pity that


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    #160
    NilByMouth
    Closed Accounts Posts: 174 ✭✭NilByMouth


    the length of time they served is longer than most for manslaughter.Gerry mcCabe is the one serving a life sentence.

    At the end of the day the robbery was to build a house.Their actions werent sanctioned by the PIRA command.They should of been treated as common crims.Cant understand why they werent, if peaceful Gerry and smiley McGuinness had not givin them the go ahead as IRA men,

    Its over and done with now,move along


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    #161
    dr.bollocko
    Moderators, Music Moderators Posts: 35,943 Mod ✭✭✭✭dr.bollocko


    I would like to remind all posters to attack the post and not the posters. I understand we have a hot-topic but from here on in we are zero-tolerance on insulting comments.


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    #162
    Iang87
    Registered Users Posts: 3,181 ✭✭✭Iang87


    Perestroika wrote: »
    Welcome home lads.
    lynchiered wrote: »
    Yes we are serious,

    Welcome Home Lads!!!

    Ye are true soldiers or Ireland, while others ignored British occupation in Ireland you stood up and said NO!!, While the Irish Government watched Nationalist communities be torn apart by loyalist death squads you went out and stopped them.

    I wish you and your families all the best,

    Beir Bua !!!

    Simply the two most retarded posts i've ever seen in my entire life, just christ like its people like these two muppets who make the people doing these clearly wrong deeds think their right.

    Fighting for a free Ireland, use a bit of logic will you we cant look after ourselves let alone try look after another 6 counties.

    Just plain plain stupid posts i'm actually having an overload of stuff to say but most of it will earn me a ban. But hey then i'd be a true soldier of boards wouldn't I


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    #163
    PrivateEye
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,283 ✭✭✭PrivateEye


    Yes we are serious,

    Welcome Home Lads!!!

    Ye are true soldiers or Ireland, while others ignored British occupation in Ireland you stood up and said NO!!, While the Irish Government watched Nationalist communities be torn apart by loyalist death squads you went out and stopped them.

    I wish you and your families all the best,

    Beir Bua !!!

    Silly post. My troll-detector is going off bigstyle, but in the 2% chance you're not taking the piss:

    Firstly, I oppose the presence of the British state in Ireland.

    These lads were robbing a post office van. Is that your Workers Republic? Saying that you don't seem too bothered by the workers, suppose they're just like pizza-boys, expendable for Oirrrrreland. It is that exact attitude that ensured republicans could never build a broad anti-imperialist movement that focused on social equality over sectarianism, because sometimes workers just got in the way. Robbing a post office van isn't brave.

    Killing McCabe was an extremely stupid move. This wasn't Belfast '72, and any effort to present it as such is ridicolous. To claim they were somehow Soldiers of Ireland is even more ridicolous.


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    #164
    nayorleck114
    Closed Accounts Posts: 224 ✭✭nayorleck114


    Its a national disgrace that an elected TD was there to greet them!!!. Never Never Never will SF get my vote.


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    #165
    nlgbbbblth
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,668 ✭✭✭nlgbbbblth


    would there have been such an outcry if J McCabe was a civilian not a Garda?


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    #166
    Dudess
    Closed Accounts Posts: 37,215 ✭✭✭✭Dudess


    I imagine there would be even more outrage given the significant anti garda sentiment out there.
    lynchiered wrote: »
    Yes we are serious,

    Welcome Home Lads!!!

    Ye are true soldiers or Ireland, while others ignored British occupation in Ireland you stood up and said NO!!, While the Irish Government watched Nationalist communities be torn apart by loyalist death squads you went out and stopped them.

    I wish you and your families all the best,

    Beir Bua !!!
    How does the murder of a garda/a robbery achieve any of the above? How did Enniskillen or Omagh or Warrington achieve any of the above?
    I'm a republican and I'm absolutely repulsed by what you've written. It's utterly despicable - I'd love to see you try saying it to Detective Garda McCabe's widow or those left bereaved by the other atrocities. You're celebrating cold-blooded murder.


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    #167
    mick867
    Registered Users Posts: 41 ✭mick867


    nlgbbbblth wrote: »
    would there have been such an outcry if J McCabe was a civilian not a Garda?


    Moot question pal

    Det Garda McCabe was a Garda working on our behalf-

    If I may ask all those who are cheering the release of these sub normal

    scum-

    Did the death of Det Garda McCabe make 1 iota of a difference
    in your attempt to re unify the Island.

    Even the provos and adams have admitted it was wrong.

    If it was so wrong- why arent these 2 scum already lying in a wet ditch with a bleeding hole just below the right ear.


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    #168
    Jack Sheehan
    Registered Users Posts: 1,693 ✭✭✭Jack Sheehan


    This is why I will never in my life give a vote to Sinn Fein. Ever.


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    #169
    Dudess
    Closed Accounts Posts: 37,215 ✭✭✭✭Dudess


    I love how pro violence republicans urge people to forget the past - that would be "the past" when it comes to republican atrocities I presume, not "the past" when it comes to e.g. Bloody Sunday.


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    #170
    schumacher
    Closed Accounts Posts: 196 ✭✭schumacher


    nlgbbbblth wrote: »
    would there have been such an outcry if J McCabe was a civilian not a Garda?

    No there wudnt be. If he had of being a normal civilian the killers would have been releases under the GFA and it would have been forgotten by now.


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    #171
    punchdrunk
    Registered Users Posts: 3,355 ✭✭✭punchdrunk


    Beir Bua !!!

    ...go-away and ****e!

    i hope the Gardai Hound and harass these scumbags for the rest of their days...


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    #172
    punchdrunk
    Registered Users Posts: 3,355 ✭✭✭punchdrunk


    schumacher wrote: »
    No there wudnt be. If he had of being a normal civilian the killers would have been releases under the GFA and it would have been forgotten by now.

    should we be any less outraged because of the man's job?


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    #173
    schumacher
    Closed Accounts Posts: 196 ✭✭schumacher


    punchdrunk wrote: »
    should we be any less outraged because of the man's job?

    No but we shouldnt really be more outraged either. Loads of people have been killed by members of the IRA and other parties both republican and unionist and people didnt seem to care that they were released under the GFA.


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    #174
    Bottle_of_Smoke
    Registered Users Posts: 9,770 ✭✭✭Bottle_of_Smoke


    Almost wish I voted for Sinn Fein so I could stop voting for them.

    Hopefully SDLP will appeal more to republicans now.


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    #175
    The_Kew_Tour
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    It was a utter disgrace that Ferris was there when these scum bags were free.

    Sinn Fein are just biggest ***** ever


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    #176
    My name is URL
    Registered Users Posts: 25,060 ✭✭✭✭My name is URL


    Bottle_of_Smoke wrote: »
    Almost wish I voted for Sinn Fein so I could stop voting for them.

    I've voted for them in the last 2 local elections, it sickens me now that I did

    Never again will I entertain a SF canvasser


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    #177
    The_Kew_Tour
    Registered Users Posts: 34,044 ✭✭✭✭The_Kew_Tour


    My name is URL wrote: »
    I've voted for them in the last 2 local elections, it sickens me now that I did

    Never again will I entertain a SF canvasser

    Yes my Dad said same thing after today when he voted for one in local elections in 2004


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    #178
    DoireNod
    Registered Users Posts: 863 ✭✭✭DoireNod


    Bottle_of_Smoke wrote: »
    Almost wish I voted for Sinn Fein so I could stop voting for them.

    Hopefully SDLP will appeal more to republicans now.
    The SDLP hasn't ever had much appeal to republicans.

    Why do you think that Martin Ferris meeting Pearse McAuley and Kevin Walsh after they've served their sentence, will deter republicans from voting for Sinn Féin?


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    #179
    mick867
    Registered Users Posts: 41 ✭mick867


    DoireNod wrote: »
    The SDLP hasn't ever had much appeal to republicans.

    Why do you think that Martin Ferris meeting Pearse McAuley and Kevin Walsh after they've served their sentence, will deter republicans from voting for Sinn Féin?

    I think the hard core sinn fein supporters will still support sinn fein- no matter how many Gardai they kill- or no matter how many banks they rob or drugs they sell.

    what is heartneing is the amount of normal decent intellegent people who are shocked and sickened at not only the death of a Garda
    but also the actions of that criminal ferris turning up to collect them. That could only have been done to show thier (sinn fein /ira) utter contempt for the normal decent intellegent people on both sides of this Island.

    Hopefully this will be the catalyst that will lose them more and more votes.


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    #180
    mike kelly
    Registered Users Posts: 1,110 ✭✭✭mike kelly


    adrian280582 wrote: »
    Yes my Dad said same thing after today when he voted for one in local elections in 2004

    Sinn Fein is a set menu, not a la carte. If you support them then you must by definition oppose the gardai and the institutions of state as they currently exist. How can anyone be surprised by Ferris greeting them on their release?


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    #181
    Joey the lips
    Registered Users Posts: 10,262 ✭✭✭✭Joey the lips


    mick867 wrote: »
    I think the hard core sinn fein supporters will still support sinn fein- no matter how many Gardai they kill- or no matter how many banks they rob or drugs they sell.

    what is heartneing is the amount of normal decent intellegent people who are shocked and sickened at not only the death of a Garda
    but also the actions of that criminal ferris turning up to collect them. That could only have been done to show thier (sinn fein /ira) utter contempt for the normal decent intellegent people on both sides of this Island.

    Hopefully this will be the catalyst that will lose them more and more votes.

    Your statement has flaws, Hardcore sinn fein supporters will support them because they believe they are the only party to give them a united ireland. Your statement also Implies that it was sinn fein that killed a garda. Wrong again. Nor did sinn fein rob banks or sell drugs(Now this is funny)

    This will not loose votes for sinn fein and as i said before and will say again boards thank god is not representitive of the electorate so opinions here are just hot opinions. They will not transfere into votes! Thats a fact!

    But I know many people in Sinn Fein who start there lives as community workers. They figure the only way to get something done is get involved in politics. But then again dont let the reality distort the possability that they are strong in there convictions.

    I said it earlier and it was said by someone else who actually said he had contempt for ferris

    Ferris is true to his views, he has never changed his opinion, he is a republician and he is a socialist. History will judge him and unlike the hot air here history will be good to him.

    I reckon this will actually do ferris good as for republicians. No republician expected anything less.imo


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