Any Bouncers on Boards.ie?

The Volt

Another week gone by, another ****ty experience with a bouncer for no good reason. 'Sorry not tonight lads'.

Are there any bouncers online here? If so could any of ye explain the mentality that a large percentage seem to operate on (God given powers to ruin a random bloke's evening)? Also, if any of ye are brave enough to post will you admit to 'copping a feel' of passing females?

It shouldn't matter if I'm from Meath, Donaghmeade, Sandymount, Donnybrook or the Moon. If I've adhered to the dress code, have valid ID and am on my best behaviour then I should be allowed in. I am posting here not only to openly state my hatrid for these kind of bouncers (I'm not suggesting you are all like this) but also to try and see if there's anything to be learnt from the shoes of a regualr club goer. For example, it seems to improve our chances if we go up in 3 x groups of 2 instead of a group of 6. Is that true?

Will

Of course, go in small paired groups of lads or with a few girls. Always easier to get in and a lot less hassle.

Rarely been refused from a club.

KamiKazi

Voltwad wrote: »

Another week gone by, another ****ty experience with a bouncer for no good reason. 'Sorry not tonight lads'.

Did you ask if they wanted you to make a reservation for next weekend?

mink_man

I've applied for my bouncer thingy in fas! you only have to be 16 to be a bouncer ya know!

Daroxtar

How would there be any bouncers on Boards? If you cant read you can hardly use a computer.

Dave!

Will wrote: »

Of course, go in small paired groups of lads or with a few girls. Always easier to get in and a lot less hassle.

Rarely been refused from a club.

This.

4zn76tysfajdxp

OP, if Dragan was here, he'd deride you for posting online rather than complaining and possibly attending that spot again, perpetuating their behaviour. If Dragan was here.

Latchy

Not a regular night club person but always thought it a bit strange the way the decide who's in and who isin't .Same with some bars

.Like if ya walk in looking like your going to slaughter somebody , your in but if you look suave ,smooth, sophisticated ( not describing myself now ......sorry lad's

The Volt

I've complained to one venue but got nowhere, not even a reply. I've had no problem in the past reasoning with bouncers to their face but I'm not exactly well built and usually when they realize they have no good reason to not let you in they have back up and next thing you know you're on your way in the opposite direction

redorblack

Most annoying part of the night is having to get by these power buzz monkeys to get in and pay the 6.60 for a beer. Many a time one of the group gets singled out by them for no reason, I think they do it because they can and enjoy it. Funny in this country they pay people to keep customers out of pubs and in other countries they have people to persuade the customers in.

byte

Maybe the club was full to capacity (though unlikely as usually they're filled beyond capacity IMO)

mardybumbum

Man, the best thing to do is throw him a punch.
I kept getting refused from the one bar for no good reason by the one bouncer.
One night I just flipped out and attacked him.
I have been allowed in ever since and I only had to spend 5 hours in the cell.
Happy Days.

The Volt

byte wrote: »

Maybe the club was full to capacity (though unlikely as usually they're filled beyond capacity IMO)

Very much so the opposite, we're the kind who get there early to avoid entrance fees. Two of us had gotten in

dlofnep

I rarely have problems with bouncers, but I do remember one incident a few years back.

I go to get into a bar where my friends are already in, and the bouncer stops me because I wasn't wearing shoes (not that anyone in the bar was either!). I ask the bouncer if he will leave me in if I go home and get shoes - he says sure.. I get a taxi home, put on my shoes and a taxi back down and he stops me again and asks for id. I show him 2 ID's and he's like "Nah that's not you, you're not getting in."

Complete and utter prick. I've never been so angry with a bouncer in my life. I was contemplating kicking him up and down the street.

Another bloody bouncer bashing thread, go complain to your parents for god sake.
Im a bouncer, i dont feel up girls and i dont let fecking arsholes in.

HouseHippo

I had a horrid experience with a bouncer, well the guy that does the stamps.
I was walking out of teh venue and her grabbed me by the arm and threw me to the ground
He had heard a perfume bottle rattling in mt bad and thought it was a naggin, he could have just asked could I open my bag


I have since heard of friends having very aggressive experiences with him also

cjbh

dlofnep wrote: »

I rarely have problems with bouncers, but I do remember one incident a few years back.

I go to get into a bar where my friends are already in, and the bouncer stops me because I wasn't wearing shoes (not that anyone in the bar was either!). I ask the bouncer if he will leave me in if I go home and get shoes - he says sure.. I get a taxi home, put on my shoes and a taxi back down and he stops me again and asks for id. I show him 2 ID's and he's like "Nah that's not you, you're not getting in."

Complete and utter prick. I've never been so angry with a bouncer in my life. I was contemplating kicking him up and down the street.

Would you not just ring or write the manager of the bar and put in a complaint about the bouncer?

mardybumbum

LittleNipper wrote: »

Another bloody bouncer bashing thread, go complain to your parents for god sake.
Im a bouncer, i dont feel up girls and i dont let fecking arsholes in.

How do you distinguish the arseholes from the rest of the crowd.
Do they smell different?

brendansmith

LittleNipper wrote: »

i dont feel up girls.

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HouseHippo

cjbh wrote: »

Would you not just ring or write the manager of the bar and put in a complaint about the bouncer?

It all depends on the venue, I know where I worked if there was a complaint against he bouncer we just ignored it, usually cause it was some nacker who was knownb for causing trouble
However writing in would be a good idea cause nackballs tend not to write letters

dlofnep

cjbh wrote: »

Would you not just ring or write the manager of the bar and put in a complaint about the bouncer?

I asked to speak to the manager, they told me to piss off. I wasn't going to bother wasting another taxi fair just to go down and tell the manager what he already knows - that his bouncers are utter shítehawks.

mardybumbum

mardybumbum wrote: »

How do you distinguish the arseholes from the rest of the crowd.
Do they smell different?

Its a typical i hate bouncers thread, was one last week too.
You dont get in? fine, act your age and file a complaint if you feel you are hard done by. Sick to death of these threads, all the OP's seem to think that all bouncers go to the college of complete bastards. Why dont you post when you do get in somewhere and have a pleasant time. Even had a lad pm me before about how to get in to a club. Its you that comes bad out of this when you say thing like " I was going to kick him up and down the street". Act your bloody age and cop on.

The Volt

LittleNipper wrote: »

Its a typical i hate bouncers thread, was one last week too.
You dont get in? fine, act your age and file a complaint if you feel you are hard done by. Sick to death of these threads, all the OP's seem to think that all bouncers go to the college of complete bastards. Why dont you post when you do get in somewhere and have a pleasant time. Even had a lad pm me before about how to get in to a club. Its you that comes bad out of this when you say thing like " I was going to kick him up and down the street". Act your bloody age and cop on.

First off I did state in my OP not all bouncers are like this. Secondly it shouldnt be necessary to post when I get in somewhere as it's generally what I expect and am entitled to.

mardybumbum

LittleNipper wrote: »

Its a typical i hate bouncers thread, was one last week too.
You dont get in? fine, act your age and file a complaint if you feel you are hard done by. Sick to death of these threads, all the OP's seem to think that all bouncers go to the college of complete bastards. Why dont you post when you do get in somewhere and have a pleasant time. Even had a lad pm me before about how to get in to a club. Its you that comes bad out of this when you say thing like " I was going to kick him up and down the street". Act your bloody age and cop on.

Im sorry, but why did you quote my question when your reply was clearly not an answer to it.

the_syco

When I worked in a club, I saw few scumbags let in, until the Hitching Post was closed. Then they streamed in :mad: Was fun to see 3 to 8 bouncers stream through the crowd when there was trouble outside, with the manager behind them with the video camera.

Threatening staff = bad idea
Looking like a scumbag = bad idea
Trying to get into the nightclub with 15 scumbag mates = denied
Trying to get into the nightclub with 15 scumbag mates who were locals, good idea.

raven136

Everyone has a problem when they cant get in and bouncers are on power trips yada yada,yet nobody seems to have any problems asking the bouncers to help you or your friends if there is hassle.The bouncer is your best mate then

I echo the previous poster,i dont feel up girls and imo its a tough fcuking job.

Voltwad

Voltwad wrote: »

First off I did state in my OP not all bouncers are like this. Secondly it shouldnt be necessary to post when I get in somewhere as it's generally what I expect and am entitled to.

First off, you're not entitled to get in where you want. Most of these clubs are private and can let in whoever they god damn please. Any pub or club has the right to refuse admission, if you're not happy with that take your money elsewhere. Im not sticking up for power mad bouncers but if you dont get in, its their loss of revenue. Some are bastards and thats why we have licenses and license number for reporting.

mardybumbum

mardybumbum wrote: »

Im sorry, but why did you quote my question when your reply was clearly not an answer to it.

Sorry:pac:, arseholes tend to reek of alcohol and be loud as hell. A queue is the best way to judge if there are well behaved.

TheZohanS

I haven't been stopped getting into a club/bar in years.

1. Don't act the pr!ck in the queue to get in.
2. Don't be hammered
3. If there's a gang of girls and guys try and couple up even if you're not couples
4. Adhere to the dresscode.
5. Say hello to the door staff and don't act like a dick.
6. Enjoy yourself inside, don't ruin anyone elses enjoyment.
7. Say thank you when you're leaving, they're the ones that made sure no scum got in to ruin your night and made sure that things ran smoothly inside.

mardybumbum

LittleNipper wrote: »

Sorry:pac:, arseholes tend to reek of alcohol and be loud as hell. A queue is the best way to judge if there are well behaved.

Ara now, Im an arsehole and I emit a rich mahogony scent and Im as quiet as a mouse.

CantGetNoSleep

LittleNipper wrote: »

Another bloody bouncer bashing thread, go complain to your parents for god sake.
Im a bouncer, i dont feel up girls and i dont let fecking arsholes in.

Haha you cnut

CZ 453

Spot on

Wasnt there one of these last week?
You can get a prick serving you in a centra.Do you start threads about those people too?

AlmightyCushion

CantGetNoSleep wrote: »

Haha you cnut

Banned for abuse.

Sofaspud

I've never been refused from a nightclub, and I'm not the type that would fit in in many of them. I have long dreadlocks, a beard and glasses. The worst I've ever gotten from a bouncer was the bouncer looking at my I.D. for about 30 seconds, then asking me what age I am in a suspicious tone, because I look a lot younger on my Garda I.D.

How do I do it? Just don't be a loud obnoxious arsehole in the queue, say hello to the bouncer, look and act friendly, if he asks any questions ("Where are ya coming from?", "Have you any on ya?") just answer them like you'd answer a friend, make eye contact, and don't look as guilty as a bull walking out of a china shop in a balaclava.

Seemples.

Yakult

Never really had trouble getting past bouncers bar once.

Went into the pub, no bother at all. Went out front to have a fag, when I went for going in he grabs me by the arm and I reply "What are you doing??". He goes show me your id and I went "fine but you already let me in". He tells me now that I cant go in despite having a legit id. No reason what so ever. Wasnt too bothered as he was the same twat who punched my mates GF so when driving by him again we gave him a nice surprise of tacho/cheese chips into the face. We laughed for a few minutes and then just carried on.

Other than that, most bouncers will have the crack with you when you go for a fag and are sound out!

Raze_them_all

Daroxtar wrote: »

How would there be any bouncers on Boards? If you cant read you can hardly use a computer.

:rolleyes: Wow that's so witty and intelligent using the same line that's used in every bouncer thread ever started on boards.

Biggins

TheZohan wrote: »

1. Don't act the pr!ck in the queue to get in.
2. Don't be hammered
3. If there's a gang of girls and guys try and couple up even if you're not couples
4. Adhere to the dress-code.
5. Say hello to the door staff and don't act like a dick.
6. Enjoy yourself inside, don't ruin anyone else's enjoyment.
7. Say thank you when you're leaving, they're the ones that made sure no scum got in to ruin your night and made sure that things ran smoothly inside.

I agree.

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Firstly, there are gobschites in every job. Its unfortunate but true.
After that, all staff including bouncers, the vast majority who don't want to start or cause trouble, just want to be able to do their job and go home in one piece anyway.
I'm sorry if you were stopped at a door but in all honesty, the best thing you should do is grumble under your breath (to yourself) and come back the next day if possible when maybe you feel a bit fresher and attempt to ask the 'blocking person' "why?" the night before. Any decent experienced bouncer will sometimes times tell you his/her reason in regard to the prior time.

Remember however that you were probably not the only person NOT let in on that faithful night - so don't feel personally victimised too much (even though its understandable why you would feel that way). The bouncer again in all honesty, wasn't just out to pick on you - and if the rare one was (and had a personal grudge, etc), being on that property was probably not the best place to be!

A bouncer by the way sometimes asks you an innocent question NOT to be nosey but to try and gauge by your response, your level of intoxication, your general demeanour/attitude going in and if your indeed in such a bad intoxicated way - could you even understand the question!

The bars/licenced premises, etc reserve legally the right of admission. They can at time also refuse a person on the grounds that their presence on the property might lead to a breach of the peace. They can also refuse legally your entry on the grounds that due to a previous occasion, you might have been involved with a prior incident that might have happened and a re-occurrence might be thus possible.

The owners have a "legal duty of care" to those in it. Like it or not, for cost reasons alone, high "public liability" rates, court awards, etc, the bouncer at the door is the first form of protection to the owner/manager to keep those costs down as low as possible.
Sure - absolutely - they are going to make mistakes. Even the best of them do. To say different would be wrong. A big mistake on most peoples part however would be to think that by they getting refused entry, it was a slight or implied stain on their personal character. Its not. That is never the intention of any decent security person. Its just perhaps caution that sometimes has an occasional unfortunate side-effect of catching a totally innocent person along with the many others that have been correctly refused entry that night (and rightly so for the safety of those already inside).

You could write to the manage/owner and tell them in a calm, clear, cool, collected way that you were refused and you didn't understand why. Explain to him/her that by the security door personnel actions, your money and presence will no longer be found on their property in future - along with your friends and their money too.
The one thing that owners/managers fear is the loss of revenue (more so these days) and if a number of folk are starting to stay away, you can be sure he/she will start paying attention when they see their opposition gaining more monetary revenue and they less.
Managers/owners all the time hear from drunken bums on the night the equivalent of "me and my mates are never coming here again" but in the cold light of day if they hear it from you and each of your mates who also take the time to write an individual protest letter, using a clear head - any manager/owner worth their salt will again sit up and take notice, get back to you and see a wrong put right.

If they don't, if they ignore your letter(s) they are assholes and in the long run, your better off not being on their property in the first place.
Next time say to yourself "stuff them" and reward a better place with your hard earned money instead.

All the best.

Mr Benevolent

If you claim to have problems with bouncers every week then it does suggest that you're the one causing the trouble.

Naos

Voltwad wrote: »

Also, if any of ye are brave enough to post will you admit to 'copping a feel' of passing females?

OP - why should you be allowed into a club if you behave like this? That is assuming you do otherwise why ask the question.

komodosp

I can barely believe what I'm reading... Tips on how to get past bouncers? Allowed into a club? What kind of bullsh!t is this!? Oh please sir, what kind of salad tossing do I have to do to spend huge money in your club? If a bouncer is going to be an arsehole I don't f**kin want to be there when there are plenty of half-decent friendly places around. The managers and owners are probably arrogant boll*xes too if they let that sh!te go on.

F*ckin hell you don't go to a shop and have to justify why you should be allowed buy a jar of jam

Dragan

Voltwad wrote: »

Also, if any of ye are brave enough to post will you admit to 'copping a feel' of passing females?

You've got a really ****ty attitude mate.

How am i supposed to explain the mentality of another person?

You are not exactly opening yourself up to reasonable explanation when you instantly assume that because i do a certain job i would engage in sexual assault.

And why is it considered "brave" to post?

I would consider it "brave" for you to express your opinions to the face of the bouncer in question, instead of just moaning on line like another little bitch. I'm gonna put you on the pile with Piste.

If you would like me to offer a possible reason as to why you were stopped, i need to know more. How many of you were there, what state were you in, any trouble on that door before, any personal trouble with the bouncer or a friend of his, any rep around your area for being a cnut....that kind of thing.

Katarn1

I got refused over the weekend. Its a kick in the nuts when it happens.

I'm a lad and was out with three girls. Tried to get in to the Dragon and got told no. We were all well dressed, not drunk and certainly not loud.

So I tried the time honoured trick of saying "no problem", all of us walked away, then I went back up after a few minutes and politely asked the bouncer would there be any chance he'd reconsider. He said ok and let us in.

Same thing has worked for me a few times before.

Turned out he was just concerned that the girls would freak out if they were hit on by a lesbian, when I said to him that they all have plenty of gay friends he was cool with it.

komodosp

Turned out he was just concerned that the girls would freak out if they were hit on by a lesbian

What the... ? Is the dragon a gay club or something? If so why would you go in if you were afraid of that? And why... Bloody hell I'm disagreeing with that bouncer on so many levels...

Katarn1

komodosp wrote: »

What? Is the dragon a gay club or something? If so why would you go in if you were afraid of that?

Yeah its a gay club and the girls all knew that.

Gay bars tend to get a lot of traffic from straight girls cause the bars tend to have a reputation for a good laugh. According to the bouncer there was incidents in the past where the people got very offended when they were hit on by a gay person.

gazzer

I have travelled around a fair bit (New York, Sydney, Dubai and also to a lot of places in Europe and the only place I have ever been refused into a club is Dublin. A lot of my friends that have come to Ireland on holiday have also commented that in Dublin it seems that bouncers are there to stop you getting into a club rather than letting you in. Have to say that I agree with them.

For instance I was in Brighton at the weekend and the bouncers there were great. Not one bit of hassle in getting in anywhere. I was in Leeds last year for a friends birthday party. We were all in fancy dress and were in 4 different pubs and a nightclub. No hassle getting in anywhere. If were in fancy dress in Dublin I can guarantee that we would have problems getting in to places.

waraf

Dragan wrote: »

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I would consider it "brave" for you to express your opinions to the face of the bouncer in question, instead of just moaning on line like another little bitch. I'm gonna put you on the pile with Piste.

If you would like me to offer a possible reason as to why you were stopped, i need to know more. How many of you were there, what state were you in, any trouble on that door before, any personal trouble with the bouncer or a friend of his, any rep around your area for being a cnut....that kind of thing.

I don't think it's ok for people to abuse other posters just cause they're mods Dragan. Someone was banned earlier in this this thread for doing just that and ironically this whole thread is about people abusing their power.

The Volt

Dragan wrote: »

You've got a really ****ty attitude mate.

How am i supposed to explain the mentality of another person?

You are not exactly opening yourself up to reasonable explanation when you instantly assume that because i do a certain job i would engage in sexual assault.

And why is it considered "brave" to post?

I would consider it "brave" for you to express your opinions to the face of the bouncer in question, instead of just moaning on line like another little bitch. I'm gonna put you on the pile with Piste.

If you would like me to offer a possible reason as to why you were stopped, i need to know more. How many of you were there, what state were you in, any trouble on that door before, any personal trouble with the bouncer or a friend of his, any rep around your area for being a cnut....that kind of thing.

First thing said to us was 'Never seen you lads around here before'. When we explained we were in town for a birthhday one lad was refused because he only had his passport and no 'College ID' even though he expressed he wasn't in college as he was taking a year out. We didn't do anything that would have remotely suggested that we were there to cause trouble and that's the god honest truth. I stated already that I know not all bouncers are like this, clearly. But there's a high enough percentage of them to make me curious about things like why exactly they get the job and is there more to it than being a 6'5 tank.

I actually rarely have trouble with bouncers, the reason I started the thread with 'another week....' is because I hear all too often of the same thing.

Lollipops23

i was out for my end of exams party with the college crowd and we were meeting in a well-known cocktail bar near Camden St. We spent a couple of hrs there and a fair bit of money. Niether myself nor any other girl was even ID'd on the way in,but each lad was given a grilling. Finally,a bunch of the lads were refused point blank,and the bouncers wouldn't give a reason.

i was still quite sober so attempted to talk them round,or at least find out why. in the end i called for a manager and told him that we were leaving (easily 50 people),taking our business elsewhere. their loss.

Wibbs

gazzer wrote: »

I have travelled around a fair bit (New York, Sydney, Dubai and also to a lot of places in Europe and the only place I have ever been refused into a club is Dublin. A lot of my friends that have come to Ireland on holiday have also commented that in Dublin it seems that bouncers are there to stop you getting into a club rather than letting you in. Have to say that I agree with them.

I would somewhat agree with this too. Though of course both mine and your experiences of other countries are going to be small in number. I do think the Irish hospitality industry, while having it's good points also has a touch of the up themselves attitude, from managers down. "You're blessed to be paying for this" kinda thing. The price fixing and general rip off culture irritates. Though at least I will leave and go somewhere else if I come across a bad example of it.

That said I would say that over the years I have had almost zero problems with security. That's not bad going considering the amount of times involved. I've had more good experiences than neutral too. In the hierarchy of pub/club employees, I've had far more issues with bar staff.

bakkiesbotha

Katarn1 wrote: »

Yeah its a gay club and the girls all knew that.

Gay bars tend to get a lot of traffic from straight girls cause the bars tend to have a reputation for a good laugh. According to the bouncer there was incidents in the past where the people got very offended when they were hit on by a gay person.

When that place was Sosume, I was thrown out because I was walking around with my balls hanging out my fly. I was trying to imitate Buster Gonad. I bet I'd get a different response to that these days.

JMcCR

LittleNipper wrote: »

***All Your comments so far***

Not attacking the poster but highlighting an attitude....

From reading this thread one thing stands out. You have not defended or explained the actual reasons for refusal. You just insult and antagonise everyone who complains about members of your profession. In my opinion what you have actually done here is concrete the general perception that bouncers are a law into themselves and when asked for their reasons, they just tell you to complain to your parents.

Real insightful. :rolleyes: