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Is this a way to scam out of paying a tv license

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    #62
    General Zod
    Registered Users Posts: 2,661 ✭✭✭General Zod


    Helix wrote: »
    they dont need a tuning card any more

    a pc is sufficient to require a license

    No it's not. The law says a PC that is connected to apperatus for recieving TV signals. That's a TV tuner or arial.


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    #63
    Lord Trollington
    Registered Users Posts: 4,411 ✭✭✭Lord Trollington


    What do the TV license people have to do to catch you?
    I mean if you answer the door and they say TV license inspector, just shut in in their face, go back on the couch and watch TV!!
    if they corner you outside dont talk to them...keep walking.. they cant harrass you.
    Dont let them inside your house, you dont have too.
    Put a lock on the front and back gate if you have ones.. if youe have dogs keep them mean and hungry!!


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    #64
    Paparazzo
    Closed Accounts Posts: 7,398 ✭✭✭Paparazzo


    General Zod wrote: »
    No it's not. The law says a PC that is connected to apperatus for recieving TV signals. That's a TV tuner or arial.

    Correct. You need to be able to recieve a tv signal, a stream doesn't count as that.
    Also, a tv licence guy was on the radio a while ago and said they have no plans to "do" people for having a pc


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    #65
    krudler
    Registered Users Posts: 34,788 ✭✭✭✭krudler


    Ponster wrote: »
    I don't believe that.

    A quick read of the Wireless Telegraphy Act, 1926 suggests this :

    They had pc's in 1926? what an age we lived in...


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    #66
    Hangsangwich
    Closed Accounts Posts: 92 ✭✭Hangsangwich


    I remember going to a post office to pay for the tv license and the old lady postmistress warned me that if I paid for the license, "they'd get me for everything after that". She was a woman of the people.


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    #67
    Dusty87
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,920 ✭✭✭Dusty87


    Just pretend to speak polish so they dont understand, cos as much as the inspector on the add thinks he is speakin polish, that is not polish.


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    #68
    Mossy Monk
    Closed Accounts Posts: 28,128 ✭✭✭✭Mossy Monk


    all the stars wrote: »
    Flippin goverment money grabbin hooers!:mad: or who-ever... money grabbin whoers! the money they charge the companies to advertise covers their costs im sure. So why should we have to contribute anymore?

    I agree. They can take away the cost of advertising, inspectors etc. etc. by putting the television tax on electricity bills and anyone with no tv can have a refund as soon as they prove they have no tv. That way everyone who has a television pays. I do believe this is how it works in some countries.


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    #69
    ShooterSF
    Registered Users Posts: 8,824 ✭✭✭ShooterSF


    Mossy Monk wrote: »
    I agree. They can take away the cost of advertising, inspectors etc. etc. by putting the television tax on electricity bills and anyone with no tv can have a refund as soon as they prove they have no tv. That way everyone who has a television pays. I do believe this is how it works in some countries.

    How does one prove they have no tv?


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    #70
    Mossy Monk
    Closed Accounts Posts: 28,128 ✭✭✭✭Mossy Monk


    ShooterSF wrote: »
    How does one prove they have no tv?

    It's not up to me to devise the protocol.


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    #71
    ShooterSF
    Registered Users Posts: 8,824 ✭✭✭ShooterSF


    Mossy Monk wrote: »
    It's not up to me to devise the protocol.

    But it's all good suggesting theory but it needs to be fleshed out to work :pac: I only ask because proving a negative is pretty tough.


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    #72
    daveyid89
    Registered Users Posts: 128 ✭✭daveyid89


    nipplenuts wrote: »
    It has nothing to do with RTE (as a rule for what you must receive), it is a license to receive TV signals. So, no, your plan wouldn't work. In fact, there's already a move to license your PC also.

    wat?.... well i think il be have to brush up on my barbados for when the pc license inspector comes round.

    can u imagine him arguing with a bunch of pc tech heads..... *insert humours nerd talk confusing the tv license inspector guy*


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    #73
    jaydoubleyoubee
    Closed Accounts Posts: 31 ✭jaydoubleyoubee


    These not only avoid the paying of a TV licence, but embarass TV licence inspectors

    1))

    Get a large PC monitor and the internet, connect a Playstation 3 or the like to it, and use the internet to watch almost any programme you want at any time.

    When they call to check, it's simple. You have no obligation to allow the TV licence inspector in the door.

    Tell him you don't have any piece of equipment that requires a TV licence.

    If he returns with a legal order (usually within two weeks) to check the house, let him in, and see him search desperately for a television while accompanied by a Garda or council official who's time he is wasting.

    (optional) Chat to this person about the waste of government expenditure on trying to accuse innocent people of avoiding a tv licence.

    [This is what I did at my home in Naas]


    2))

    This works well for students

    Every time someone rings the doorbell remove the fuse from the plug on the tv and turn the tv to face the wall

    If the tv licence inspector calls simply allow him in

    When he points out the tv, say, "that was here when we moved in, it doesnt work, we keep meaning to get rid of it"

    Give him a disgusted look when he laughs and says, "have you not seen the ads, we've heard all the excuses, sure"

    Allow him to test the tv in several sockets in the house just to be sure.

    Laugh at him, ask him for identification, and make a complaint about the manner in which he inspected your house.

    [This is what I did in student accomodation. I've been checked three times in three years and this worked every time]


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    #74
    ScumLord
    Registered Users Posts: 28,789 ✭✭✭✭ScumLord


    jaydoubleyoubee wrote: »
    Get a large PC monitor and the internet, connect a Playstation 3 or the like to it, and use the internet to watch almost any programme you want at any time.
    That's what I've done, I hope the bastard calls round now, I have prepared a "I've got no TV Fuck you RTE licence whores" dance, it's over 25 minutes long. They probably won't call now. :(


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    #75
    jaydoubleyoubee
    Closed Accounts Posts: 31 ✭jaydoubleyoubee


    @Scumlord

    You're probably right, I got my monitor and got rid of my TV over two years ago. Two days after I was supposed to pay my TV licence they came a-knocking, teo friggin days, and they haven't called since!

    I forgot to mention, number 2)) in my previous post is obviously not advised, because it's illegal, no guarentees it'll work, blah blah blah.


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    #76
    Dublin_Gunner
    Registered Users Posts: 7,692 ✭✭✭Dublin_Gunner


    Hangsangwich wrote: »
    if i ever get done for not having a tv license I will bring the case to the European Court of Justice and get this piece of antiquated anti-competitive legislation overruled

    Would you mind doing the same for Driving licenses, pet licenses, fishing licenses, gun licenses etc etc?

    ;)


    "You do not require a television licence to watch television on your computer or mobile phone. However, you do require a licence if the computer is used together with any other apparatus to receive a signal."

    I assume a 'modem' could be considered another apparatus to receive a signal. So echnically, if you watch anything like TV / news etc over the web, you are legally required to have a license.


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    #77
    soups05
    Registered Users Posts: 1,086 ✭✭✭soups05


    with all due respect i think it would be easier to just pay up. no pulling the fuse on the tv,no hiding when the door is knocked etc.

    just pay up .


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    #78
    mickoneill30
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 3,073 ✭✭✭mickoneill30


    ScumLord wrote: »
    That's what I've done,

    I've been thinking of doing that for a while. My TV is used for Xbox and the odd DVD. Does anybody know what models of big TVs come without a tuner though. To get a 37" monitor is kinda pricey.
    Dublin_Gunner wrote: »
    I assume a 'modem' could be considered another apparatus to receive a signal.

    You know what they say about assume. How do you get a TV signal through a modem?


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    #79
    T-K-O
    Registered Users Posts: 6,309 ✭✭✭T-K-O


    Yes - but I aint telling. :cool:


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    #80
    ScumLord
    Registered Users Posts: 28,789 ✭✭✭✭ScumLord


    mickoneill30 wrote: »
    I've been thinking of doing that for a while. My TV is used for Xbox and the odd DVD. Does anybody know what models of big TVs come without a tuner though. To get a 37" monitor is kinda pricey.
    It's going to be hard to find a tv with out a tunner at a cheap price because your basically talking about a monitor.


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    #81
    severely
    Closed Accounts Posts: 13 ✭severely


    I had a case in a business before where a license inspector wanted us to pay the license for a security monitor. I told the guy no way. I rang a TV store and they said they would remove the tuner for 40euros (this can be refitted in some TVs ). This I done and the next week the license inspector returned. I showed him the receipt for the removal of the tuner and promptly left. They have also called to my parents house and I've told them itwasn't my house , the owner was on holiday and if they came back next week they could sort it out. That happened on 2 separate occasions and they never returned (my parents had a license, I just couldn't be bothered me arse looking for it). If you pay for a license once they have your address on file so if you don't renew it , it will be red flagged. That's their detection equipment. There was talk of licensing computers , but even Cuba is moving away from that bat-****e craziness . I would never pay for the license out of principle and would gladly stand up in court just to deride RTE as a FF propaganda platform. We live in a country where you need a license to broadcast TV and a license to receive it. So much for free speech.


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    #82
    veryangryman
    Registered Users Posts: 5,545 ✭✭✭veryangryman


    http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showt...p?t=2055620766

    Your thread has just been added to that thread OP. Hope your proud


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    #83
    Dublin_Gunner
    Registered Users Posts: 7,692 ✭✭✭Dublin_Gunner


    veryangryman wrote: »
    http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showt...p?t=2055620766

    Your thread has just been added to that thread OP. Hope your proud


    Cool, the 'Not Found' thread!


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    #84
    veryangryman
    Registered Users Posts: 5,545 ✭✭✭veryangryman


    Dublin_Gunner wrote: »
    Cool, the 'Not Found' thread!

    :mad:
    http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2055454434

    :cool:


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    #85
    jaydoubleyoubee
    Closed Accounts Posts: 31 ✭jaydoubleyoubee


    Even if the television or other equipment is broken and currently unable to receive a signal, it is regarded as capable of being repaired so it can receive a signal and you must hold a licence for it. [http://www.citizensinformation.ie/categories/consumer-affairs/media/tv_licences]
    Strange that the TV licence inspectors I met didn't know this. Also does this mean if you rip the piece of circuitry from your television set that allows it to receive a tv signal, i.e. modify it to make it a pc monitor, then you have to pay a tv licence? It's technically a custom made product that does not receive signals.

    Did you know, this means if someone dumps a broken television on your property you're required to pay for a TV licence for it, that's hilarious.

    I'm thinking of posting small broken TVs to people I don't like and then reporting them to the TV licence inspectors. lol


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    #86
    Cookie_Monster
    Registered Users Posts: 24,480 ✭✭✭✭Cookie_Monster


    mickoneill30 wrote: »
    I've been thinking of doing that for a while. My TV is used for Xbox and the odd DVD. Does anybody know what models of big TVs come without a tuner though. To get a 37" monitor is kinda pricey.

    Projector maybe?


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    #87
    Edgedinblue
    Registered Users Posts: 2,166 ✭✭✭Edgedinblue


    i think the whole tv licence thing is a load of bull, its an un-needed waste of money. i defo dont agree with being charged for having a computer screen either. i mean theres mobile phones in china (that can be brought over here with no problem) that recieve tv and have a tv aerial... would you need a licence for that too?


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    #88
    newbie2
    Registered Users Posts: 2,477 ✭✭✭newbie2


    Yes, and pay any import duties I suspect. :o


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    #89
    Edgedinblue
    Registered Users Posts: 2,166 ✭✭✭Edgedinblue


    feck that so! theres a tv in our house only use it for games and dvds, but if the tv inspector ever pops around to my house ill be quickly and honestly telling him it isnt my tv so it isnt my problem


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    #90
    Mossy Monk
    Closed Accounts Posts: 28,128 ✭✭✭✭Mossy Monk


    Edgedinblue wrote: »
    i mean theres mobile phones in china (that can be brought over here with no problem) that recieve tv and have a tv aerial... would you need a licence for that too?

    They have a tv tuner so yes


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    #91
    Mossy Monk
    Closed Accounts Posts: 28,128 ✭✭✭✭Mossy Monk


    Edgedinblue wrote: »
    feck that so! theres a tv in our house only use it for games and dvds, but if the tv inspector ever pops around to my house ill be quickly and honestly telling him it isnt my tv so it isnt my problem

    But it is in your house.


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