Is this a way to scam out of paying a tv license

stevoman

this debate is going on in work so i have decided to pick the AH brains (could be a mistake).

The question is - If you were to have and english sky box for example that does not have the RTE channels and you were to run the box off a computer screen and not a TV woudl you technically be exempt from having to pay a television license?

The way i see it is TV have the potentiel to pick up RTE as a terestrial channel through the aerial so thats why the say they can hit you with a TV license. But if you were using a computer screen would you not have to pay it.

Mossy Monk

You are not exempt as the Sky box has a tuner and is capable of receiving tv channels.

Mr. Presentable

It has nothing to do with RTE (as a rule for what you must receive), it is a license to receive TV signals. So, no, your plan wouldn't work. In fact, there's already a move to license your PC also.

dimejinky99

Computer monitors do not need a licence..that's one way around it. Lotta people I know use these as they're TVs.

WIZE

Plus if you have a computer with internet . It means you can download RTE player and you will pay the licence

stevoman

Mossy Monk wrote: »

You are not exempt as the Sky box has a tuner and is capable of receiving tv channels.

can you really tune ion RTE from a cardless sky box yeah?

ScumLord

Mossy Monk wrote: »

You are not exempt as the Sky box has a tuner and is capable of receiving tv channels.

It's not capable of displaying a picture though. It's basically a small PC with a tuner card.

toiletduck

Live in a gated apartment complex?

dlambirl

Once you have any piece of equipment that is capable of recieving Tv channels you are meant to have a TV licence.

Mossy Monk

stevoman wrote: »

can you really tune ion RTE from a cardless sky box yeah?

No you can't but the tv licence is not for receiving RTÉ. It is for having any tuner capable of receiving television channels. The Sky box has a tuner that is capable.

Dinter

stevoman wrote: »

can you really tune ion RTE from a cardless sky box yeah?

It's got nothing to do with RTE beyond paying their salaries.

stevoman

Mossy Monk wrote: »

No you can't but the tv licence is not for receiving RTÉ. It is for having any tuner capable of receiving television channels. The Sky box has a tuner that is capable.

ah i see. baxtards! if they wanted to be sencere about getting people to pay TV licenses they could at least have taken Ryan Tubridys smug feckin head out of the ad couldnt they!

K4t

Come up with an excuse they haven't heard of before. It might stump them.

ScumLord

Mossy Monk wrote: »

No you can't but the tv licence is not for receiving RTÉ. It is for having any tuner capable of receiving television channels. The Sky box has a tuner that is capable.

But that's like saying you need a tv licence if you have the circuit board from a tv that has the tuner on it.

stevoman

toiletduck wrote: »

Live in a gated apartment complex?

no i live in a big fancy playboy house in g-g-g-galway with the promiscuous mother of some some person who uses boards.ie who is called toiletduck or something. :pac:

stevoman

ScumLord wrote: »

But that's like saying you need a tv licence if you have the circuit board from a tv that has the tuner on it.

yeah but i think its having tv and the capability to get RTE from it. So i guess if you have a computer screen and any way of getting a reception of RTE onto it your fooked!

Dinter

Note the bit about PC's!! :mad:

http://www.citizensinformation.ie/categories/consumer-affairs/media/tv_licences

kmick

Theres a very simple way to avoid the television license man - dont answer the door. If you dont answer the door they can send reminders to "the resident" but unfortunately "the resident" is not recognised by any court in any country (excluding Zambia and Mannon).

Its as simple as that.

pretend the telly is a microwave and have a recording of a chicken being cooked :pac:

ScumLord

Dinter wrote: »

Note the bit about PC's!! :mad:

http://www.citizensinformation.ie/categories/consumer-affairs/media/tv_licences

So the tuner is what your actually paying the licence for.

okioffice84

kmick wrote: »

Theres a very simple way to avoid the television license man - dont answer the door. If you dont answer the door they can send reminders to "the resident" but unfortunately "the resident" is not recognised by any court in any country (excluding Zambia and Mannon).

Its as simple as that.

That's what I've done for many years. Don't open the door to strangers.

kmick

okioffice84 wrote: »

That's what I've done for many years. Don't open the door to strangers.

Yes I have added to your policy to include people I know. It saves time and money and allows you become a total recluse.

Greenmachine

okioffice84 wrote: »

That's what I've done for many years. Don't open the door to strangers.

ffs talk about nonsense. Say you are getting ready to go out for some reason. It does happen. Knock at the door. I'm not expecting anyone. What do I do, answers the door on my way out or hide behind the sofa.

ScumLord

Greenmachine wrote: »

ffs talk about nonsense. Say you are getting ready to go out for some reason. It does happen. Knock at the door. I'm not expecting anyone. What do I do, answers the door on my way out or hide behind the sofa.

"I don't live here" continue on your way out the door. Just don't look back.

General Zod

Dinter wrote: »

Note the bit about PC's!! :mad:

http://www.citizensinformation.ie/categories/consumer-affairs/media/tv_licences

"You do not require a television licence to watch television on your computer or mobile phone. However, you do require a licence if the computer is used together with any other apparatus to receive a signal."

Unless you have a TV card in your PC, you won't be required to get a TV licence to view RTE's webplayer.

JimmyCrackCorn!

Yes

Dont have a tv.

Simple!

okioffice84

Greenmachine wrote: »

ffs talk about nonsense. Say you are getting ready to go out for some reason. It does happen. Knock at the door. I'm not expecting anyone. What do I do, answers the door on my way out or hide behind the sofa.

Well, it's worked for me for the last 15 odd years, so I've saved about €2,400 and I've never hid behind a sofa

KerranJast

I wasn't aware that a Sky Box on it's own can tune in analogue TV signals. Any one I've seen has no coaxial connectors and so cannot be connect to a TV aerial. The only way I thought Sky could receive RTE was via a satellite.

Mossy Monk

KerranJast wrote: »

I wasn't aware that a Sky Box on it's own can tune in analogue TV signals. Any one I've seen has no coaxial connectors and so cannot be connect to a TV aerial. The only way I thought Sky could receive RTE was via a satellite.

Who said anything about analogue television signals?

G_R

have you not seen the add??
they've heard all the excuses and none of them work:D

AckwelFoley

you dont even need a tv to get fined for not having a licence, an ariel or dish will suffice.

Hangsangwich

if I ever get done for not having a tv license, I will bring the case to the European Court of Justice. It is an anti-competitive law.

G_R

Hangsangwich wrote: »

if I ever get done for not having a tv license, I will bring the case to the European Court of Justice. It is an anti-competitive law.

fight the power!!

how much is the average european court case these days....

allthedoyles

A tv licence can now be obtained by Direct Debit costing €13 per month.

This is way cheaper than Sky and imo better value too.

You just add up the number of actual sky channnels you regularly watch on Sky digi and you may find that terrestrial tv is a better option.

There may be up to 900 sky channels , but we done our own little survey and discover that we only actually watch the folowing

1. BBC 1
2. Chanel 4
3. Sky News
4. Discovery
5. Fox News
6. MTV

So in our case , paying the tv licence is more value for money than subscribing to sky

Hangsangwich

if i ever get done for not having a tv license I will bring the case to the European Court of Justice and get this piece of antiquated anti-competitive legislation overruled

An Ard Ri

stevoman wrote: »

this debate is going on in work so i have decided to pick the AH brains (could be a mistake).

The question is - If you were to have and english sky box for example that does not have the RTE channels and you were to run the box off a computer screen and not a TV woudl you technically be exempt from having to pay a television license?

The way i see it is TV have the potentiel to pick up RTE as a terestrial channel through the aerial so thats why the say they can hit you with a TV license. But if you were using a computer screen would you not have to pay it.

I believe the only way to get around this is, to say to that you are repairing the TV for someone. That is providing you don't have an NTL connection (as that is where an Post gets its info). Apparently you dont have to have a licence to repair a TV and there is nothing that can be done. I guy i used work with is from Ballymun, and he said that this excuse was used loads of times in that area.

My name is URL

allthedoyles wrote: »

but we done our own little survey and discover that we only actually watch the folowing

1. BBC 1
2. Chanel 4
3. Sky News
4. Discovery
5. Fox News
6. MTV

Oh gawd

AckwelFoley

dannym08 wrote: »

fight the power!!

how much is the average european court case these days....

not alot if you get one off the euro saver menu

Overheal

then itll be PCs, laptops, 3G Phones

they could always just **** off and add a tax on electronics if theyre that ****ing poor.

allthedoyles

allthedoyles wrote: »

A tv licence can now be obtained by Direct Debit costing €13 per month.

This is way cheaper than Sky and imo better value too.

You just add up the number of actual sky channnels you regularly watch on Sky digi and you may find that terrestrial tv is a better option.

There may be up to 900 sky channels , but we done our own little survey and discover that we only actually watch the folowing

1. BBC 1
2. Chanel 4
3. Sky News
4. Discovery
5. Fox News
6. MTV

So in our case , paying the tv licence is more value for money than subscribing to sky

What on earth are you talking about? You have to pay the licence whether you have sky or not.

Hangsangwich

I dont see why the taxpaying public have to prop up rte. why are people like ryan tubridy and pat kenny on such huge salaries?would it reallycost so muc and the level of quality programming from rte is pityful.Rte are over-staffed, its a case of jobs for the D4 boys and girls

994

ScumLord wrote: »

"I don't live here" continue on your way out the door. Just don't look back.

I find a warning shot usually works. Just use blanks the first time they come, live rounds the next time. Maybe one in the leg if they persist. "Celebrity Jigs n Reels" ... my God, there should be a trial in the Hague over that.

Paparazzo

kmick wrote: »

Theres a very simple way to avoid the television license man - dont answer the door. If you dont answer the door they can send reminders to "the resident" but unfortunately "the resident" is not recognised by any court in any country (excluding Zambia and Mannon).

Its as simple as that.

They actually wait till you leave your house and nab you. If a stranger comes up to you as you leave your house and asks if you have a TV, say no. They caught my mate completely off guard.
Now if you have an apartment with a secure gate and locked doors to get into the actual building I don't think you have any chance in hell of getting caught.
Imagine him ringing on the intercom.
"this is the tv licence inspector, do you have a television set?"
"ehhh, yeah. I mean no"

ScumLord

allthedoyles wrote: »

A tv licence can now be obtained by Direct Debit costing €13 per month.

This is way cheaper than Sky and imo better value too.

You just add up the number of actual sky channnels you regularly watch on Sky digi and you may find that terrestrial tv is a better option.

There may be up to 900 sky channels , but we done our own little survey and discover that we only actually watch the folowing

1. BBC 1
2. Chanel 4
3. Sky News
4. Discovery
5. Fox News
6. MTV

So in our case , paying the tv licence is more value for money than subscribing to sky

You'll only get two of those channels on terrestrial.

Mossy Monk

If you can receive tv from the UK terrestrially that is.

jenzz

i got a card in the door last year - we observed a tv in your property... nosy sod was down on his hunkers looking under the blinds,,,,

my excuse this year - i cant afford.. plain & simple; take me to court for 160 bloody euro

Helix

dimejinky99 wrote: »

Computer monitors do not need a licence..that's one way around it. Lotta people I know use these as they're TVs.

yes they do

they changed it earlier this year

if you own ANYTHING capable of receiving television signals (tv, computer, mobile with tv tuner etc) you need a license

stepbar

jenzz wrote: »

i got a card in the door last year - we observed a tv in your property... nosy sod was down on his hunkers looking under the blinds,,,,

my excuse this year - i cant afford.. plain & simple; take me to court for 160 bloody euro

....and be fined and forced to pay the licence anyhow. Smart idea :rolleyes:

Is it that hard to save 3 odd eur a week and put it into a pot?

Joey the lips

Yeah.. Watch tele from prision!

mickdw

Id put the €160 towards a court challenge to this stupid law. Now, if another 1,000 or so people would do the same, we could get an hour in the high court.

nayorleck114

stevoman wrote: »

this debate is going on in work so i have decided to pick the AH brains (could be a mistake).

The question is - If you were to have and english sky box for example that does not have the RTE channels and you were to run the box off a computer screen and not a TV woudl you technically be exempt from having to pay a television license?

The way i see it is TV have the potentiel to pick up RTE as a terestrial channel through the aerial so thats why the say they can hit you with a TV license. But if you were using a computer screen would you not have to pay it.

It won't stand up in court. Friends of mine who did not have a TV (they were americans) were brought to court to PAY licence for TV, but they did no have one, but the house had an old dish. The landlord had to testify they did no have a TV(they actually didn't) They used to watch news on computer via internet but not via box, as they said the Irish channels were crap and no point paying for a licence to see 2 channels.

Personally I think the Licence is worthless, I pay it because I have a TV. But I rarely watch RTE.