Mad cattle

lab man

put a radio in near them it works wonders actually

Mad4simmental

+1 on the radio it workes.

keep going

The thing about a couple of wild cattle is they show up the holes in your setups.we all have yards that have been built mismash over the years and this leads to poorly designed yards from a handling point of view. I couldnt underrstand how a relation in the cattle game could handle buying stock bulls for fattening until I saw his setup for aclimatising them.how many yards have crowding pens or chutes but give cattle acess to big yards and then run around roaring at them and belting sticks and the same applies to loading them.acouple of well position ed gates would do alot

Bleating Lamb

Whatever about having the misfortune of buying in stock that mysteriously are mad as hatters once they leave mart,I can never understand people that keep cows esp in suckling 'cos she's a great breeder'...even though the sane cow prob adds 20 minutes min into putting in a bunch of cattle whenever they need to be handled as she inevitably brings them all to furthest pt of land to start with,have a few neighbours with Lim breeding in cows and that's the scenario every time the cattle are handled,even if they have been bribed with nuts.

LizzyOne

I didn't think I'd ever write this: but the limousins have settled just grand in their cattle pen.
Crazy, I know!
We put some Aberdeens in with them and they are totally placid and helped the reds quieten down even more.
They're on loads of meal and silage and wolfing it down and you can even rub an odd nose or neck.
The lunatic bullock that upended the uncle looks at everyone with suspicion but he eats just as well as the others and might sniff at your hand if offered but you can see it in his eyes: he'd flatten you in a heartbeat if you'd step into the pen with him.
The uncle is recovering nicely. He use to take a delight in walking through the stock but I think it will be a long time before he goes anywhere near them again.
As for my son, he's sworn off a certain mart. Will he ever go back? Maybe.
But he's wiser now and knows what to do should anything like this happen again.
Once bitten, twice shy!

Reggie.

LizzyOne wrote: »

I didn't think I'd ever write this: but the limousins have settled just grand in their cattle pen.
Crazy, I know!
We put some Aberdeens in with them and they are totally placid and helped the reds quieten down even more.
They're on loads of meal and silage and wolfing it down and you can even rub an odd nose or neck.
The lunatic bullock that upended the uncle looks at everyone with suspicion but he eats just as well as the others and might sniff at your hand if offered but you can see it in his eyes: he'd flatten you in a heartbeat if you'd step into the pen with him.
The uncle is recovering nicely. He use to take a delight in walking through the stock but I think it will be a long time before he goes anywhere near them again.
As for my son, he's sworn off a certain mart. Will he ever go back? Maybe.
But he's wiser now and knows what to do should anything like this happen again.
Once bitten, twice shy!

Great to hear that the uncle is on the mend

whelan2

LizzyOne wrote: »

I didn't think I'd ever write this: but the limousins have settled just grand in their cattle pen.
Crazy, I know!
We put some Aberdeens in with them and they are totally placid and helped the reds quieten down even more.
They're on loads of meal and silage and wolfing it down and you can even rub an odd nose or neck.
The lunatic bullock that upended the uncle looks at everyone with suspicion but he eats just as well as the others and might sniff at your hand if offered but you can see it in his eyes: he'd flatten you in a heartbeat if you'd step into the pen with him.
The uncle is recovering nicely. He use to take a delight in walking through the stock but I think it will be a long time before he goes anywhere near them again.
As for my son, he's sworn off a certain mart. Will he ever go back? Maybe.
But he's wiser now and knows what to do should anything like this happen again.
Once bitten, twice shy!

we have 1 lunatic pb aa heifer, she runs away as soon as we enter the field, we thought we had her quietened down as we could rub her when they where getting meal, we went to run her in on friday and she is crzy, we are going to send her to factory, as soon as she sees you her head goes up. Glad to hear your cattle have settled and your uncle is ok

Willfarman

whelan2 wrote: »

we have 1 lunatic pb aa heifer, she runs away as soon as we enter the field, we thought we had her quietened down as we could rub her when they where getting meal, we went to run her in on friday and she is crzy, we are going to send her to factory, as soon as she sees you her head goes up. Glad to hear your cattle have settled and your uncle is ok

I would never try to run cattle in. Get them into group of quieter cattle and get the lot to follow you is the way.

whelan2

Willfarman wrote: »

I would never try to run cattle in. Get them into group of quieter cattle and get the lot to follow you is the way.

the rest of the group run in after a bucket, she goes the opposite way and eventually will follow them

Willfarman

whelan2 wrote: »

the rest of the group run in after a bucket, she goes the opposite way and eventually will follow them

There's always one!

whelan2

Willfarman wrote: »

There's always one!

she actually scared me on friday i thought she was going to charge for me, my dad was going to ai her but i think he realised how bad she is

LizzyOne

It's scary how stock can turn on you.
You'd think it would never happen to yourself but when it does it just goes to show that it's so easy to misjudge livestock.
It only takes the one!
We have a cow that is ok to handle. Not friendly but she won't run anyone down.
But come time for calving and she's a demon, before, during and after.
She's on the short list to go.
I don't know how her calves survive for she'd jump at shadows and nearly end up standing on them.
Twelve hours later and she's back to normal.
As for your AA, we had a few late calvers one year and one of them was pure wild.
Made the mistake of putting that calf on a suckler. The cow was solid. Dead quiet. Kept the calf grounded because anything at all would set the calf off, tearing across the field. The cow would just stand there and softly moo after the calf as if to say where are you going.
When we took the calf from the cow and believe me that was an operation and half to perform, we put the calf in a shed thinking to quieten it down with meal feeding etc.
Well, the calf went berserk, broke everything in the shed.
It was an old calf shed.
Broke the solid wood hay manger so bits of plank hung out and down in jagged pieces. Broke the drinking bowl off the wall and water gushing out everywhere.
Did her damn level best to break down a strong metal door and failed thankfully.
Couldn't go into the shed to fix the gushing water pipe. She would charge anyone that came near her.
Had to cut off the water outside.
Feeding her was a nightmare.
One of us opened the door a fraction, another had a fork poked inside and directed at her head, and the other threw meal in one trough, and water in the other. And an arm of hay tossed in as well.
What did the calf do? and she was about five months old at this time.
She either climbed the walls or made a run at one of us.
End of the story is she became big enough to put with her older companions, settled down some and we managed to get enough flesh on her for the factory at two years of age.
Never trusted her though.
You couldn't.
She was happy to keep her distance and anytime we had to move her she was with a large group of cattle and stayed with them.
First time we realised that not all Aberdeens are quiet!

Muckit

I'm just off the phone with Stephen Speilberg. He's on a plane as we speak.

LizzyOne

Muckit wrote: »

I'm just off the phone with Stephen Speilberg. He's on a plane as we speak.

Wrong guy!
I think you'll be needing the Simpsons creator. You know .. The one who adopted Benjy the bull.
Maybe he'll take pity on some of these nervy livestock: set them free in the Serengeti. Someplace with loads of wilderness and a few hungry lions!!!!

have2flushtwice

I saw a good stockman working a few times. He had a jersey bull which was wicked. The bull ran with a suckler herd. I was there one day when he was moving them through a few fields. I saw him and went to lend a hand.

So I went into the field when he could see me, and went over to him. "stay close to me" he said, "bull in the middle of the cows, keep him there and he wont cause any trouble". he walked the herd through 3 fields and a yard, rotating the herd so the bull was kept in the middle. Going through the yard he shut the gate behind the cows, we stayed in the field and he said "just watch the bull". The bull waited in the yard till the cows were out the far side to the grass and then he followed them out. he seemed to know the mannerism of the bull.

Charliebull

LizzyOne wrote: »

It's scary how stock can turn on you.
You'd think it would never happen to yourself but when it does it just goes to show that it's so easy to misjudge livestock.
It only takes the one!
We have a cow that is ok to handle. Not friendly but she won't run anyone down.
But come time for calving and she's a demon, before, during and after.
She's on the short list to go.
I don't know how her calves survive for she'd jump at shadows and nearly end up standing on them.
Twelve hours later and she's back to normal.
As for your AA, we had a few late calvers one year and one of them was pure wild.
Made the mistake of putting that calf on a suckler. The cow was solid. Dead quiet. Kept the calf grounded because anything at all would set the calf off, tearing across the field. The cow would just stand there and softly moo after the calf as if to say where are you going.
When we took the calf from the cow and believe me that was an operation and half to perform, we put the calf in a shed thinking to quieten it down with meal feeding etc.
Well, the calf went berserk, broke everything in the shed.
It was an old calf shed.
Broke the solid wood hay manger so bits of plank hung out and down in jagged pieces. Broke the drinking bowl off the wall and water gushing out everywhere.
Did her damn level best to break down a strong metal door and failed thankfully.
Couldn't go into the shed to fix the gushing water pipe. She would charge anyone that came near her.
Had to cut off the water outside.
Feeding her was a nightmare.
One of us opened the door a fraction, another had a fork poked inside and directed at her head, and the other threw meal in one trough, and water in the other. And an arm of hay tossed in as well.
What did the calf do? and she was about five months old at this time.
She either climbed the walls or made a run at one of us.
End of the story is she became big enough to put with her older companions, settled down some and we managed to get enough flesh on her for the factory at two years of age.
Never trusted her though.
You couldn't.
She was happy to keep her distance and anytime we had to move her she was with a large group of cattle and stayed with them.
First time we realised that not all Aberdeens are quiet!

i would have shot that b@stard on the spot

Willfarman

have2flushtwice wrote: »

I saw a good stockman working a few times. He had a jersey bull which was wicked. The bull ran with a suckler herd. I was there one day when he was moving them through a few fields. I saw him and went to lend a hand.

So I went into the field when he could see me, and went over to him. "stay close to me" he said, "bull in the middle of the cows, keep him there and he wont cause any trouble". he walked the herd through 3 fields and a yard, rotating the herd so the bull was kept in the middle. Going through the yard he shut the gate behind the cows, we stayed in the field and he said "just watch the bull". The bull waited in the yard till the cows were out the far side to the grass and then he followed them out. he seemed to know the mannerism of the bull.

A jersey bull with a suckler herd? A teaser?