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I don't think the HPAT give's an accurate reflection of whether somebody would make a good doctor or not. It would be intersting to get some of the top consultants and surgeons to sit the HPAT and see how they get on.
Hmm. That's an interesting point! I definitely think Section 2 (ie. interpersonal reasoning etc) would give a good indication of whether a candidate would have a good bedside manner and an ability to work well with patients on an emotional level. Section 1 is probably a good indicator of one's ability to draw conclusions and make a diagnosis when presented with a large quantity of symptoms etc. It shows, to an extent, your ability to deduce conclusions and think in a logical manner. As for Section 3, well... I really have no idea what success in this area indicates. One's ability to spot and recognise patterns? Spatial awareness perhaps?
The HPAT's not perfect (in fact, it is rather flawed in many respects), but I definitely think it's MUCH fairer than the old system, where the ability to get A1s in subjects like English, Irish, languages, History, Geography, Business subjects etc would have guaranteed people a place. Getting a perfect LC doesn't necessarily indicate that someone will make a good doctor either. It shows that you've got intelligence, a willingness to work hard and apply yourself, and an ability to cope well under pressure... But you need more than that to be a good doctor.
(There are probably a fair few excellent surgeons around who wouldn't do so well in the HPAT though, I'm sure!)0 -
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It angers me that all the people who missed out on medicine because of their HPAT scores are moaning about how ''People could just pay for HPAT grinds in order to do well.''
I went to one of those ''grind'' courses and it was a huge waste of money and time.Everything explained to us was common sense and it offered no real help in getting a better score.
I do feel kind of sorry for people who got 600 points and still didn't get in because of their HPAT score but also can't really understand how people who are smart enough to get 600 could do so poorly in the HPAT - different types of intelligence I guess.
On a lighter note, anyone for a NUIG boardsie meet-up?
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Decent leaving cert score
Below average HPAT
Very confident that you can work to at least 550 and so end up anywhere between 550-560 (Maybe 550-557 realistically:o)
Would've been ready and willing to repeat under the old system
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Literally terrified by the prospect of knuckling down like hell from september to late january in school while preparing for HPAT on your own while all your mates are happy in college, getting through that 2.5 hours and not bottling it and somehow doing much better than you did last time, keeping confident that you still have hope no matter how horribly you felt the hpat went all the way - from mocks 2 weeks later to orals to LC, again tellling yourself that there's still hope (and HPAT could've gone horribly wrong!) - basically keeping your mental stability
Get the HPAT results 2 days after doing the LC for the 2nd time and realising you'd failed - hence mental breakdown of a life time:( because in the end none of the LC work mattered a damn because it all hindered on the HPAT... and to say you 'wasted' a year of your life would be putting it lightly..
So..yeh, erm, anyone? 0 -
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Duffman'05 wrote: »Decent leaving cert score
Below average HPAT
Very confident that you can work to at least 550 and so end up anywhere between 550-560 (Maybe 550-557 realistically:o)
Would've been ready and willing to repeat under the old system
BUT
Literally terrified by the prospect of knuckling down like hell from september to late january in school while preparing for HPAT on your own while all your mates are happy in college, getting through that 2.5 hours and not bottling it and somehow doing much better than you did last time, keeping confident that you still have hope no matter how horribly you felt the hpat went all the way - from mocks 2 weeks later to orals to LC, again tellling yourself that there's still hope (and HPAT could've gone horribly wrong!) - basically keeping your mental stability
Get the HPAT results 2 days after doing the LC for the 2nd time and realising you'd failed - hence mental breakdown of a life time:( because in the end none of the LC work mattered a damn because it all hindered on the HPAT... and to say you 'wasted' a year of your life would be putting it lightly..
So..yeh, erm, anyone?
If you really want it, dude, go for it. If it all goes wrong do a degree in something relevant. With your points you'll do really well in most degrees, so you'll fulfill the requirements for graduate entry. Then do that GAMSAT or whatever it's called when you're older and exams don't stress you.
Having another degree is quickly becoming the norm in medicine. I have a BSc as well as my medical degree, and it's actually a requirement for me to do a masters degree as well before I'm a consultant in my particular area. A degree will help your career.
So, don't stress. Easier said than done. I remember the hassle of being at your stage. BUt you have the potential to be very attractive to a medical faculty selection panel. So, if it doesn't work out, go and do pharmacy or physio or biomedical science of something like that. It'll take a bit longer, but you'll be very attractive to employers after you've finished med school.0 -
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Can't wait to start!:D
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