IMPORTANT INFO RE SWINE FLU

uprising

King Mob wrote: »

So you finally admit it! Hurrah!
NO....I'm waiting on your higher knowledge to educate me
What's to say someone won't pee into the vaccines?
What's to say it won't happen with any of the seasonal vaccines?
NOTHING!, SO you agree all vaccines can be unsafe, thanks for getting "real" and seeing my point. HURRAH

Claiming that because a product could be contaminated that product is inherently dangerous is just plain dishonest.
NO....It's plainly very honest of me to claim it could be very dangerous to anybody unlucky enough to be vaccinated with contaminated vaccines

It depends really.
I certainly wouldn't accuse him of trying to kill us when there is no evidence as such.
What?, you mean like bayer "knowing" they were exporting HIV infected products. Your wisdom confuses mine
And definitely wouldn't cry conspiracy if it is found to be an accident.
But in bayers case there wasn't any accident, it was KNOWN that it was infected when they stopped selling it in the US, and BEFORE they exported it, so I'll cry conspiracy as loud as possible.

And I would definitely spread lies and half truths about him, other butchers and their products.
You've been spreading half truths throughout this and other threads, with absolutely NOTHING to back yourself up, a simple no it's not doesn't suffice as evidence

MY ANSWERS ARE IN RED

King Mob

uprising wrote: »

Maybe you missed "The world's leading authority on vaccines admitted" but why should that concern your higher than high viewpoint.

Not really. Unless he provided actual scientific evidence that's just an argument from authority.
I've provided alot of opinion from other scientists that say the opposite but that didn't seem to bother you.

So why do you think this guy out of all scientists is being honest?

uprising wrote: »

NO....I'm waiting on your higher knowledge to educate me

So I have to prove or disprove your claims then?

uprising wrote: »

NOTHING!, SO you agree all vaccines can be unsafe, thanks for getting "real" and seeing my point. HURRAH

And meat can be unsafe as can Chinese toys.
So therefore we shouldn't use any.

uprising wrote: »

NO....It's plainly very honest of me to claim it could be very dangerous to anybody unlucky enough to be vaccinated with contaminated vaccines

Except there's the tiny problem that you have no scientific evidence to back up the claim that the swine flu vaccine is dangerous or that any will be contaminated.

It like if you claimed that all car drivers are definitely going to die because some people die in traffic accidents.
Instead of suggesting caution and safety you're suggesting outright fear and panic.

uprising wrote: »

What?, you mean like bayer "knowing" they were exporting HIV infected products. Your wisdom confuses mine.

But in bayers case there wasn't any accident, it was KNOWN that it was infected when they stopped selling it in the US, and BEFORE they exported it, so I'll cry conspiracy as loud as possible.

You may explain why they did that exactly.
Was it **** controls on the product or was it some cartoon villain plot?

And again how does this prove the swine flu vaccine is dangerous?

uprising wrote: »

You've been spreading half truths throughout this and other threads, with absolutely NOTHING to back yourself up, a simple no it's not doesn't suffice as evidence

Please by all means point those out.
And if you think I made a claim that I haven't backed up enough please show me where.

uprising

King Mob wrote: »

Please by all means point those out.
And if you think I made a claim that I haven't backed up enough please show me where.

Please dont make me do that again!, it's pointless and a waste of my time, remember post#6, thats it, end of.

King Mob

uprising wrote: »

Please dont make me do that again!, it's pointless and a waste of my time, remember post#6, thats it, end of.

You mean the post I later corrected my self on?
And then told I corrected myself at least twice now.

And one post? A bit of a difference between that and:

You've been spreading half truths throughout this and other threads, with absolutely NOTHING to back yourself up, a simple no it's not doesn't suffice as evidence

uprising

King Mob wrote: »

You mean the post I later corrected my self on?
And then told I corrected myself at least twice now.

And one post? A bit of a difference between that and:

ALL POSTS BY YOU

Wow one study of 60 people? Convincing.
There are much larger and much more studies show homoeopathy doesn't work.
I'll bet money you don't think they count.
This is pure fiction and terrible science.
People should really stop taking this Natural News site seriously

Oh my God! A politician is suspicious!
The baseless conspiracies are true!

From the comments it looks like people are buying into sensationalism, baseless conspiracies and poor science.

But please keep spreading all three. You're doing a great job

From the comments it looks like people are buying into sensationalism, baseless conspiracies and poor science.

Oh lots and lots of that article are fiction.
Baseless accusation
Note how they say "not extensively".
It has been somewhat tested for safety .
But it makes much much better propaganda to imply otherwise doesn't it?
A classic display of the anti-science this website spreads.
All vaccines contain a weakened version of a virus. That's how they work.
But it sure can sound scary when you misrepresent it.
All lies.
But then it's opinion so they don't have to back it up with evidence
Chemtrails? Yep this site has just drop another two points on the BS scale.
Wow look at all the evidence they have for this. Oh wait....
That's right. Even though they show a complete lack of understanding of medicine and science and use propaganda and tabloid journalism they're totally trustworthy.
To anyone who takes this quackery seriously I wish you good luck.
You'll need it.
But you can't actually point out where these regulations are?

Do you just blindly believe everything you read on Naturalnews?
But you made the claim.
Surely you can back it up right?
Unless your claim is completely baseless, but that's impossible right?
Can you provide a single example of this?
From what I've gathered the reasoning for that is this:
The US restricts the import of certain vaccines (for some flus and smallpox and stuff) into certain countries like North Korea.
The reason for this is that such vaccines could possibly be used in the development of bio-weapons.
Therefore this means that vaccines are a bio-weapon apparently.
But given the website this level of logic isn't surprising.
The truth is that no vaccine is classed a bio-weapon.
You realise that Irish Gardai have no jurisdiction on a foreign company right?
And them refusing to do something they can't actually do doesn't make them complicit.
It's a bit dishonest to say something like that.
That's just not true.
The healthier you are the more effective your immune system is.
But the virus is still there and very much active.
It's virology 101.
Can you provide any support for your claims?
Stop the train.
Do you know how vaccinations actually work?
Cause from this point I don't think you do.
Or how the immune system works for that matter.
Oh and doctors always recommend eating right and getting excerise
And funnily we don't hear scaremongering about the annual vaccine either
Your link don't work.
And fun fact: the vaccines that were contaminated wheren't going to be used on patients at all.
And notice how they are contaminated and not a single person died from those ones.
Thousands of people die each year form food poisoning caused by contaminated food products.
But there's no vast conspiracy there?
Yes you've copy-pasted that before.
Still has nothing to do with the vaccine.
But scaremongering 101: if you can't get anything on what you're trying to scare people about throw up anything at all that makes the thing look bad regardless of relevance.
But do you now admit that the vaccine wasn't the problem in that H5N1 thing but it was a contamination?
Because contamination can happen in any product.
Yay! more copy paste.
You're not getting the whole "news and opinon don't equal scientific evidence" thing are you?
So why do you think this one scientist telling the truth while you think the majority of scientists are all lying?
Could it have something to do with his statements agreeing with your beliefs?
So you finally admit it! Hurrah!
What's to say someone won't pee into the vaccines?
What's to say it won't happen with any of the seasonal vaccines?
Claiming that because a product could be contaminated that product is inherently dangerous is just plain dishonest.
It depends really.
I certainly wouldn't accuse him of trying to kill us when there is no evidence as such.
And definitely wouldn't cry conspiracy if it is found to be an accident.
And I would definitely spread lies and half truths about him, other butchers and their products.
Not really. Unless he provided actual scientific evidence that's just an argument from authority.
I've provided alot of opinion from other scientists that say the opposite but that didn't seem to bother you.
So why do you think this guy out of all scientists is being honest?
So I have to prove or disprove your claims then?
And meat can be unsafe as can Chinese toys.
So therefore we shouldn't use any.
Except there's the tiny problem that you have no scientific evidence to back up the claim that the swine flu vaccine is dangerous or that any will be contaminated.
It like if you claimed that all car drivers are definitely going to die because some people die in traffic accidents.
Instead of suggesting caution and safety you're suggesting outright fear and panic.
You may explain why they did that exactly.
Was it **** controls on the product or was it some cartoon villain plot?
And again how does this prove the swine flu vaccine is dangerous?
Please by all means point those out.
And if you think I made a claim that I haven't backed up enough please show me where.
You mean the post I later corrected my self on?
And then told I corrected myself at least twice now.
And one post? A bit of a difference between that and:


This is your entire contribution to this thread, always asking for scientific evidence and providing absolutely nothing yourself.

King Mob

uprising wrote: »

ALL POSTS BY YOU

And which of those are half truths exactly?

uprising wrote: »

This is your entire contribution to this thread, always asking for scientific evidence and providing absolutely nothing yourself.

Yes that's my argument: there is no scientific evidence to support the claim that the swine flu vaccine is dangerous.
I am asking you to provide such evidence.

And please show me where exactly I made a claim I didn't back up.

uprising

King Mob wrote: »

And which of those are half truths exactly?

Yes that's my argument: there is no scientific evidence to support the claim that the swine flu vaccine is dangerous.
I am asking you to provide such evidence.

And please show me where exactly I made a claim I didn't back up.

All of them, you haven't provided proof it's safe, yet you try to disclaim all indications it's not safe, without a shred of evidence it is safe.
There have been numerous links provided to people (professors, scientists, researchers, etc) who know a hell of a lot more than you about biology, who claim it is NOT SAFE, yet as my above post proves you've added not ONE single link to anybody saying it's not unsafe.

King Mob

uprising wrote: »

All of them, you haven't provided proof it's safe, yet you try to disclaim all indications it's not safe, without a shred of evidence it is safe.
There have been numerous links provided to people (professors, scientists, researchers, etc) who know a hell of a lot more than you about biology, who claim it is NOT SAFE, yet as my above post proves you've added not ONE single link to anybody saying it's not unsafe.

Your completely misunderstanding my argument.
I am not or have I claimed that the vaccine is 100% definitely safe.
I've said this in practically every other post.

I am claiming that there is no evidence that it is unsafe.
And I'm just pointing out the major holes in your argument.
You have provided no evidence that it is dangerous.

And I have posted links to people who say it's probably safe.
In fact a doctor actively working with the vaccine came on and posted in favour of it.

uprising

King Mob wrote: »

Your completely misunderstanding my argument.
I am not or have I claimed that the vaccine is 100% definitely safe.
I've said this in practically every other post.

I am claiming that there is no evidence that it is unsafe.
And I'm just pointing out the major holes in your argument.
You have provided no evidence that it is dangerous.

And I have posted links to people who say it's probably safe.
In fact a doctor actively working with the vaccine came on and posted in favour of it.

Well I'm an astronaut and can tell you for a fact I've walked on the sun, so when somebody comes up with a reptilian conspiracy they can look at this post as evidence we've been to the sun and back and say "An astronaut came on boards who walked on the sun, he posted in favor of my theory.

Martyr

@uprising: there is rarely any good discussion here, and we all know why..i don't have to tell you the answer

King Mob

uprising wrote: »

Well I'm an astronaut and can tell you for a fact I've walked on the sun, so when somebody comes up with a reptilian conspiracy they can look at this post as evidence we've been to the sun and back and say "An astronaut came on boards who walked on the sun, he posted in favor of my theory.

So when a doctor makes a statement that you agree with they are infallible but when they make a statement that you don't agree they are either in on it or aren't doctors?

So how to you know the doctors that agree with you aren't lying or mistaken like you think the doctors that disagree with you are?

uprising

King Mob wrote: »

So when a doctor makes a statement that you agree with they are infallible but when they make a statement that you don't agree they are either in on it or aren't doctors?

So how to you know the doctors that agree with you aren't lying or mistaken like you think the doctors that disagree with you are?

This is what you wrote:
"And I have posted links to people who say it's probably safe.
In fact a doctor actively working with the vaccine came on and posted in favour of it. "

Where are the links to people who say it's probably safe, and what doctor actively working with the vaccine came here and posted in favor of it.

Where did he get the vaccine to work with?, did you just magic it to him? because I don't think there's any vaccine here for the doctors to be actively working with yet.

King Mob

uprising wrote: »

Where are the links to people who say it's probably safe,

http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showpost.php?p=61622176&postcount=22

uprising wrote: »

and what doctor actively working with the vaccine came here and posted in favor of it.

Where did he get the vaccine to work with?, did you just magic it to him? because I don't think there's any vaccine here for the doctors to be actively working with yet.

http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showpost.php?p=61706536&postcount=144

So how to you know the doctors that agree with you aren't lying or mistaken like you think the doctors that disagree with you are?

eman66

worldrepublic wrote: »

Look, at the end of the day governments can be ruthless and that is a fact we do not like to think about because it makes us feel very uneasy. Likewise, corporations can be ruthless -again we prefer to focus on corporate logos, brands, sophisticated advertising, elegant offices and good-looking spokespeople in 2,000 eur suits. If a large organisation or command structure is indeed perpetuating (and is inextricably bound up with) a conspiracy/culture of misdirection, then this would lead to a "no turning back" mentality (read "going forward...") -so it's all embedded within a commercialised/monetised power-based reality and is now a fait accompli. Most people just acquiesce (albeit cynically) and try to "get with the program". A very effective strategy at all sorts of levels... except when it comes to looking in the mirror. In sum, we are all "guilty" of surviving.

Ain't that the truth.

ilivetolearn

Martyr wrote: »

@uprising: there is rarely any good discussion here, and we all know why..i don't have to tell you the answer

Yep, it's a killer . The turn-off for many of us is the disrespect of delivery from our counterparts and not the opposition alone as incorrectly suggested in the past on a few occasions.

meglome

There are known side effects to this vaccine, as far as I know there are some side effects to most vaccines. However it really worries me that some of you guys are saying you'd not take the vaccine if you got a bad dose of swine flu or worse you encouraged others not to take it.

Maybe someone can explain this to me...
The media will often hype things up to improve sales and drug companies do like to improve their profits, however neither of these things automatically prove conspiracy, we need to take a look at the numbers. Before we had the ability to make vaccines (or to create a flu for that matter) millions of people died from flu. But now deaths from flu are in the thousands when we can make vaccines (or potentially a flu virus). Now forgive me but logic would seem to suggest things have vastly improved and the idea that we are making these viruses just doesn't add up.

meglome

Martyr wrote: »

@uprising: there is rarely any good discussion here, and we all know why..i don't have to tell you the answer

If I can translate for a moment...
People don't agree with me when I can't back up the things I say and I don't like it.


Jesus how dull would it be if everyone agreed with each other all the time. And honestly I do believe there are conspiracy, just at a smaller scale generally.

ilivetolearn

meglome wrote: »

Before we had the ability to make vaccines (or to create a flu for that matter) millions of people died from flu. But now deaths from flu are in the thousands when we can make vaccines (or potentially a flu virus).

Can you provide a source? (not challenging, just interested)

meglome

ilivetolearn wrote: »

Can you provide a source? (not challenging, just interested)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Influenza

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flu_pandemic

Previous pandemics have killed millions now we don't seem to be looking at numbers greater than 'standard' flu. Well especially in the west where we can afford the best medical care.

Martyr

yes, let me once again waste time explaining the obvious to you, because you're special, aren't you?

there are certain individuals on here who consistently belittle most of the discussions on this forum and that's all they do, that's their day job it seems.

those individuals never have anything constructive to say, ever.

they seem to love getting attention for stupid questions, questions they would know the answer to in 5 minutes had they bothered to do some research.

- initially i would have wasted time and effort attempting to answer these questions, but it's pointless..and there are plenty of posts/threads on CT to prove it.

And no, I will not dig out links, doesn't deserve my attention.

And no, just because I won't spoonfeed you like a child doesn't mean I can't prove a claim, it means i'm not willing to waste my time and effort doing something you could do yourself, if you were genuinely interested in a topic...but you're not interested in the slightest.

these people don't deserve attention from anyone, why should you be given any "evidence" only to immediately dismiss it, without even reading it? or doing your own research..you have zero credibility imo.

meglome wrote:

People don't agree with me when I can't back up the things I say and I don't like it.

the problem is that when people like you are presented with facts to back up a claim, it's never enough, you simply go away and wait for the next thread to jump all over and disprove.

I've never once seen anything constructive contributed to these forums by these same people, absolutely NOTHING.

You should try find a new hobbie to keep yourself occupied and let the rest of us discuss Conspiracy Theories, instead of arguing, asking stupid questions you could find the answer to if you'd bothered to use a search engine.

meglome

Martyr wrote: »

yes, let me once again waste time explaining the obvious to you, because you're special, aren't you?

there are certain individuals on here who consistently belittle most of the discussions on this forum and that's all they do, that's their day job it seems.

those individuals never have anything constructive to say, ever.

they seem to love getting attention for stupid questions, questions they would know the answer to in 5 minutes had they bothered to do some research.

- initially i would have wasted time and effort attempting to answer these questions, but it's pointless..and there are plenty of posts/threads on CT to prove it.

And no, I will not dig out links, doesn't deserve my attention.

And no, just because I won't spoonfeed you like a child doesn't mean I can't prove a claim, it means i'm not willing to waste my time and effort doing something you could do yourself, if you were genuinely interested in a topic...but you're not interested in the slightest.

these people don't deserve attention from anyone, why should you be given any "evidence" only to immediately dismiss it, without even reading it? or doing your own research..you have zero credibility imo.

the problem is that when people like you are presented with facts to back up a claim, it's never enough, you simply go away and wait for the next thread to jump all over and disprove.

I've never once seen anything constructive contributed to these forums by these same people, absolutely NOTHING.

You should try find a new hobbie to keep yourself occupied and let the rest of us discuss Conspiracy Theories, instead of arguing, asking stupid questions you could find the answer to if you'd bothered to use a search engine.

Without going into all of this, as I don't choose to take your attitude.

For me some people in here are fanboys and will believe (it seems) almost any CT, with only the flimsiest of backup to them, sometimes no backup whatsoever. And honestly some of these story's read like a novel. There are others who are very scientific and want very scientific proof. These two types are at opposing ends of the spectrum and are often likely to disagree. For me I'll take the scientific approach over peoples opinions any day.

For example King Mob may be argumentative but he still takes a very scientific approach to what he says and how he says it. I have learned many things in here due to the logic and science put forward by some posters. See I love a good story, I read a large number of books, but if I'm expected to believe a story I want evidence...some sense, logic and consistency would be nice too. Your opinion or your belief doesn't cut it.

It's funny the CT's complain all the time about the 'debunkers' being dismissive but in a really dismissive way just like you've done.

I like conspiracy theory's and I don't doubt they happen, it's just most of the major ones can't be backed up when you look in detail at them. So you're entitled to your opinions about me, just like you are on anything else but I know you're incorrect about me and I think I can prove that on many of the CT's too.

ilivetolearn

meglome wrote: »

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Influenza
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flu_pandemic

Can you provide a quote or at least indicate what paragraph I can find a reference in relation to the death tolls prior to vaccinations? There's a lot of text, particularily in the first link.

meglome wrote: »

now we don't seem to be looking at numbers greater than 'standard' flu.

I don't understand this bit. Can you rephrase it?

humanji

Martyr wrote: »

@uprising: there is rarely any good discussion here, and we all know why..i don't have to tell you the answer

ilivetolearn wrote: »

Yep, it's a killer . The turn-off for many of us is the disrespect of delivery from our counterparts and not the opposition alone as incorrectly suggested in the past on a few occasions.

Just because I love irony, Martyr's hissy-fit is a perfect example of one of the many problems in this forum, in that it's "always someone elses fault". Respect goes both ways.

ilivetolearn wrote:

Can you provide a quote or at least indicate what paragraph I can find a reference in relation to the death tolls prior to vaccinations? There's a lot of text, particularily in the first link.

The third paragraph mentions it. I'm still reading it, so I'll edit this if I find any more on it:

wikipedia wrote:

Three influenza pandemics occurred in the 20th century and killed tens of millions of people, with each of these pandemics being caused by the appearance of a new strain of the virus in humans.

To be honest, I was kind of surprised to learn so many died from flus in the 20th century. When you hear of millions dying from it, you tend to assuming it was well over 100 years ago.

edit: actually this section of it gives more details about various pandemics in history.

6th

Lads look at the following 2 words and note the difference: Post. Poster.

Martyr

humanji wrote:

Just because I love irony, Martyr's hissy-fit is a perfect example of one of the many problems in this forum, in that it's "always someone elses fault". Respect goes both ways.

have you nothing better to do?

6th

Martyr wrote: »

yes, let me once again waste time explaining the obvious to you, because you're special, aren't you?

humanji wrote: »

Just because I love irony, Martyr's hissy-fit is a perfect example of one of the many problems in this forum, in that it's "always someone elses fault". Respect goes both ways.

ok lads both of you can take 48 hours from the forum to cop on and calm down.

ilivetolearn

humanji wrote: »

To be honest, I was kind of surprised to learn so many died from flus in the 20th century. When you hear of millions dying from it, you tend to assuming it was well over 100 years ago.

My reaction was the same when I discovered how recent and devastating the Spanish Influenza was. I don't recall covering this in junior certificate history. Can anyone else recall differently or perhaps comment on the leaving certificate curriculum?

humanji wrote: »

edit: actually this section of it gives more details about various pandemics in history.

Thanks for that. It's an interesting read.

samson09

The 1918 Influenza Epidemic was a Vaccine-caused Disease (apparently, I'm not presenting this as fact so dont shoot the messenger!)

From: http://www.cfciowa.org/K017/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=272:the-1918-influenza-epidemic-was-a-vaccine-caused-disease&catid=4:national-news&Itemid=7

"The death and disease rate among the vaccinated soldiers was four times higher than among the unvaccinated civilians".

"Most people believe their doctors and government officials, and do what they say. The result was, that almost the entire population submitted to the shots without question, and it was only a matter of hours until people began dropping dead in agony, while many others collapsed with a disease of such virulence that no one had ever seen anything like it before"

"20,000,000 died of that flu epidemic, worldwide, and it seemed to be almost universal or as far away as the vaccinations reached. Greece and a few other countries, which did not accept the vaccines, were the only ones that were not hit by the flu. Doesn’t that prove something?
At home (in the U.S.) the situation was the same; the only ones who escaped the influenza were those who had refused the vaccinations. My family and 1 were among the few who persisted in refusing the high pressure sales propaganda, and none of us had the flu not even a sniffle, in spite of the fact that it was all around us, and in the bitter cold of winter".

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For what it's worth, I've heard that the current vaccines may speed up the rate of mutation in the H1N1 virus, causing a more aggressive form of the virus (anyone else hear or read anything about this?).

I can also confirm that the vaccines (at least the one from GSK) the Irish people will be receiving will definitely contain adjuvants.

"Pandemrix Reconstitution

Vaccine is presented as:

-Solution constituted from 2 vials (1 of suspension/antigen 2,5mls and 1 of emulsion/adjuvant 2,5mls)
-Combined total= 5mls= 10 individual doses. The vial should be shaken prior to drawing up each of the 10 doses.
-To constitute: add 1 vial of emulsion to 1 vial of suspension, the mixed vaccine should be a whitish emulsion. If not DISCARD".

This is taken straight from is taken straight from Ireland Educational Programme for Registered Nurses and midwives to supply and administer Vaccinations and Antiviral Medications for the pandemic (H1N1) 2009 under medical protocols. 18 august 2009
(cant find link, add it if you can find it!)

samson09

I'm posting this as some of the content is related to my previous post

From: http://www.naturalnews.com/026148.html

"How do they know that a virus caused the flu epidemic of 1918, when the first virus was not isolated until 1933?

They don't. In fact, many believe that the epidemic was actually a vaccine reaction.When Army vaccinations became compulsory in 1911, the death rate from typhoid vaccination rose to the highest point in the history of the US Army. US Secretary of War Henry L Stimson reported that seven men dropped dead after being vaccinated. He also reported 63 deaths and 28,585 cases of hepatitis as a direct result of yellow fever vaccination during only six months of WW1.

According to a report in the Irish Examiner, "The report of the Surgeon-General of the US Army shows that during 1917 there were admitted into the army hospitals 19,608 men suffering from anti-typhoid inoculation and vaccinia. When army doctors tried to suppress the symptoms of typhoid with a stronger vaccine, it caused a worse form of typhoid, paratyphoid. But when they concocted an even stronger vaccine to suppress that one, they created an even worse disease Spanish flu."

I'd love to know what was in those vaccines. The plot thickens.

samson09

Not sure if I've posted this already

Anyway, some good reading here and definitely a must read for anyone who may still be questioning the safety of the vaccine.

BTW, the conspiracy here is that we are being led to believe that this vaccine is safe when (IMO) it clearly isn't.

A HARD LOOK AT MANDATORY LIVE VIRUS VACCINATIONS:

WHAT’S REALITY AND WHAT TO DO

http://treeoflife.nu/allpdfdoc/vaccine.action.letter.pdf

11 POINT SUMMARY:

1. The proposed swine flu, squalene adjuvant, live virus vaccination is neither adequately or sufficiently tested, nor proven effective or safe; it is uninsurable and can stimulate the onset of a variety of debilitating auto-immune diseases, and is a serious assault on the immune system.

2. The swine flu vaccine contains dangerous & life-threatening fillers, including adjuvants such as squalene, animal tissues, which may include pig tissue, viral and bacterial proteins, and live viruses—all of which contain pig DNA.

3. Live viruses have a history of lethal danger, disease, and are contagious. Secondary Spread of live viruses from those vaccinated with a live virus lasting up to three weeks is a well-known fact.

4. The swine flu appears to have been laboratory generated and designed to have its dangerous effects amplified by the use of all the available swine flu vaccines..........

READ IT!