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Music: The build up and the aftermath

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    #92
    rcaz
    Registered Users Posts: 4,034 ✭✭✭rcaz


    Double tracking is just recording the singing twice. It's done all the time in modern music. You can usually tell it by syllables not perfectly matching up. It is literally two people singing (but they're both the same person ;))

    When I'm Sixty-Four isn't double-tracked, just sped up.

    Does anyone have any sweet links to Mozart Movement 3 notes? I've got nothing on it.


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    #93
    tazbars
    Registered Users Posts: 216 ✭✭tazbars


    El Pr0n wrote: »
    Double tracking is just recording the singing twice. It's done all the time in modern music. You can usually tell it by syllables not perfectly matching up. It is literally two people singing (but they're both the same person ;))

    When I'm Sixty-Four isn't double-tracked, just sped up.

    Does anyone have any sweet links to Mozart Movement 3 notes? I've got nothing on it.

    yea got them mixed up sorry double tracking and echo effects are the recording tenchniques in she's leaving home


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    #94
    Idjit
    Registered Users Posts: 853 ✭✭✭Idjit


    ok this is gonna sound stupid but i cant remember the name of the other guy who sings with mccartney on shes leaving home so ill jus say this: mccartney and the other...'dude'...sing the song but their voices are double tracked so that it sounds like a quartet singing...


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    #95
    tazbars
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    Jade182 wrote: »
    ok this is gonna sound stupid but i cant remember the name of the other guy who sings with mccartney on shes leaving home so ill jus say this: mccartney and the other...'dude'...sing the song but their voices are double tracked so that it sounds like a quartet singing...

    lennon sings with him


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    #96
    Idjit
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    ah thank you :)
    My brain is fried!


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    #97
    rcaz
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    On a slightly-related note, it's Igor Stravinsky's birthday today :) Refer to the 2003 Aural Skills listening question!


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    #98
    tazbars
    Registered Users Posts: 216 ✭✭tazbars


    i know this is so basic but does anyone have any tips on how to distinguish between jigs and reels? i always get it wrong


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    #99
    lilmissprincess
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    Does instrumentation and rhythm fit under Musical Features?

    www.leavingcertmusic.com has some notes on Beatles, not too sure how much I have the book they sell and I knwo some of the notes are in pdf form on the site, also for Mozart me thinks...


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    #100
    lilmissprincess
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    tazbars wrote: »
    i know this is so basic but does anyone have any tips on how to distinguish between jigs and reels? i always get it wrong

    Reel- double-decker double-decker.(4/4)

    Jig- rashers and sausages. (6/8 time)

    Sounds silly but its gotten me through six years of this...

    Hornpipe is a slow reel.

    Slip Jig- rashers and sausages and eggs (9/8)


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    #101
    tootyflutty
    Registered Users Posts: 782 ✭✭✭tootyflutty


    Mozart 3rd Movement.
    Sonata Rondo Form.
    Exposition -
    1st subject a,b,c - A major - A
    2nd subject a - E minor, b - E major - B
    1st subject a - A major - A

    Development
    New Material -
    Theme a - F# minor - C
    Theme b - D major -C

    Recapitulation
    1st subject c - A major - A
    2nd subject a - A major - B

    Coda
    1st subject a - A major - A
    b
    2nd subject b - D major - B
    1st subject c - A major - A


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    #102
    tazbars
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    lilmissprincess wrote: »
    Reel- double-decker double-decker.(4/4)

    Jig- rashers and sausages. (6/8 time)

    Sounds silly but its gotten me through six years of this...

    Hornpipe is a slow reel.

    Slip Jig- rashers and sausages and eggs (9/8)

    LOVE THIS.


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    #103
    aine-maire
    Closed Accounts Posts: 456 ✭✭aine-maire


    Is it possible to get the answers to music workbook B anywhere??



    Also what movement of mozart do ye think will come up? I'm REALLY hoping it's not the 3rd...:(


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    #104
    sock puppet
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    I'm finding it really hard to study for this. I've forgotten almost everything for the set works. I should do alright in the composing paper though.


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    #105
    lilmissprincess
    Registered Users Posts: 3,016 ✭✭✭lilmissprincess


    What I'm hoping for:

    Deane to be taken off the course....not going to happen but I'm optimistic...
    Marche Au Supplice- Berlioz
    Movement 3, or at a push movement 2 of Mozart
    When I'm 64- Beatles.


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    #106
    rcaz
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    tootyflutty wrote: »
    Mozart 3rd Movement.
    Sonata Rondo Form.
    Exposition -
    1st subject a,b,c - A major - A
    2nd subject a - E minor, b - E major - B
    1st subject a - A major - A

    Development
    New Material -
    Theme a - F# minor - C
    Theme b - D major -C

    Recapitulation
    1st subject c - A major - A
    2nd subject a - A major - B

    Coda
    1st subject a - A major - A
    b
    2nd subject b - D major - B
    1st subject c - A major - A

    Thank you! Have you got any recommendations on what sort of stuff we should know?

    Also, for dictation questions, is anyone learning how to write the main themes by heart?


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    #107
    rcaz
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    lilmissprincess wrote: »
    What I'm hoping for:

    Deane to be taken off the course....not going to happen but I'm optimistic...

    If Seachanges comes up as the 25 mark question... EASY MARKS!!


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    #108
    aine-maire
    Closed Accounts Posts: 456 ✭✭aine-maire


    In the first movement of mozart there is a 'conventional second inversion 6/4 chord heralding the start of the cadenza'.

    What's a 6/4 chord? :o


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    #109
    tootyflutty
    Registered Users Posts: 782 ✭✭✭tootyflutty


    El Pr0n wrote: »
    Thank you! Have you got any recommendations on what sort of stuff we should know?

    Also, for dictation questions, is anyone learning how to write the main themes by heart?

    No problemo. Well I know the keys of they themes and things, roughly where the cadnces are and what they are. Instrumentation of the themes.
    Things like that, I get allot of information from just listening to the pieces, I'mk listening to the 3rd movement of Mozart as we speak!
    I know who plays counter melodies to the main instruments, and who plays which theme next for the questions that ask what happens next :P

    As for the dictation question, I tend to do well from just listening and comparing what's played with what's given on paper before. That way you can get your rhythm almost before you listen to it if you know what theme it is :)


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    #110
    xOxSinéadxOx
    Registered Users Posts: 2,604 ✭✭✭xOxSinéadxOx


    so are we ruling out when I'm 64?


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    #111
    rcaz
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    I feel like I'm trying to learn too much too late. But there's no way we'll need to go into the kind of detail documented here... Right?

    How many marks is the listening paper worth, anyway?


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    #112
    barahsug
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    Which years has our course been up?


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    #113
    Jay P
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    lilmissprincess wrote: »
    Reel- double-decker double-decker.(4/4)

    Jig- rashers and sausages. (6/8 time)

    Sounds silly but its gotten me through six years of this...

    Hornpipe is a slow reel.

    Slip Jig- rashers and sausages and eggs (9/8)

    The slip jig be kinda wrong! You only have eight syllables in the line. What I used and still use is:
    Rashers and sausages right away.

    And the hornpipe has a different rhythm, it's dotted and smoother than a reel, so I say:
    "Easy Going" Although it's hard to get across the way I say it in words....


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    #114
    tootyflutty
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    listening paper is 100 marks


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    #115
    OxfordComma
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    barahsug wrote: »
    Which years has our course been up?

    '08, '04, '03 and '02...


    Ok, I'm doing music outside of school and I've NEVER studied the 3rd movement of Mozart before... It did come up last year so am I safe leaving it out? It just looks SO complicated (all those A's and B's and C's and D's etc), and I want to focus more on things that are likely to come up...


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    #116
    sock puppet
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    1fahy4 wrote: »
    '08, '04, '03 and '02...


    Ok, I'm doing music outside of school and I've NEVER studied the 3rd movement of Mozart before... It did come up last year so am I safe leaving it out? It just looks SO complicated (all those A's and B's and C's and D's etc), and I want to focus more on things that are likely to come up...

    It probably won't come up but there's no guarantee.


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    #117
    OxfordComma
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    ... Anyone else think Deane is the easiest set work?... Or is it just me?


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    #118
    rcaz
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    1fahy4 wrote: »
    ... Anyone else think Deane is the easiest set work?... Or is it just me?

    I'm definitely with you there. Simple.


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    #119
    electrogrimey
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    aine-maire wrote: »
    In the first movement of mozart there is a 'conventional second inversion 6/4 chord heralding the start of the cadenza'.

    What's a 6/4 chord? :o

    Don't mind that,(I may be a bit rusty, so correct me if I'm wrong, but AFAIK) it's just a fancy word for a second inversion basically...it comes from the days of figured bass, when a continuo player would have been given intervals to play instead of chords, so a 6/4 is a 6th and a 4th from the root, which gives a second inversion.


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    #120
    tazbars
    Registered Users Posts: 216 ✭✭tazbars


    whats the diff between melodic features and rhythmic features?


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    #121
    OxfordComma
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    tazbars wrote: »
    whats the diff between melodic features and rhythmic features?


    Well a melodic feature would be something to do with the tune (like chromaticism, sequences, step movement etc...) while a rhythmic feature is something to do with the rhythm (like syncopation, dotted rhythm, changing time signatures etc)...


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