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Bret Hart Book Signing in Dublin - THE OFFICIAL THREAD!

  • 19-03-2009 2:43pm
    #1
    Closed Accounts Posts: 254 ✭✭


    Ok folks, it was brought to my attention that there were 3 threads related to this! Accidents can happen at two, but three? All discussion goes into this one, and this one only please. Any further Bret signing threads will get locked.

    SR


    SOME UPCOMING APPEARANCES

    Please check back in the appearances area for deatils - coming very soon!

    We're working on more ...

    Tuesday, April 14 - Newcastle, UK book signing

    Tuesday, April 14 - Manchester, UK book signing

    Wednesday, April 15 - Liverpool, UK book signing

    Wednesday, April 15 - Birmingham, UK book signing

    Thursday, April 16 - London, UK book signing

    Saturday, April 18 - Dublin, Ireland book signing


    http://www.brethart.com/updates/some-upcoming-appearances


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,602 ✭✭✭✭ShawnRaven


    Timed that one very closely with WWE's European tour.
    Good opportunity for those who missed the signing the first time around.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,424 ✭✭✭fatal


    Nice!!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,527 ✭✭✭brick tamland


    I read that the book is coming out in paperback in April so this is presumably to coincide. Should be able to pick it up for less than 15 euros


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,624 ✭✭✭Dancor


    The man is spoiling us :D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 244 ✭✭Jayo11780


    So apparently Bret Hart will have an autograph/meet & greet session in Dublin on April 18?
    Met Bret up in Castlebar last october when he was on the American Rampage tour, paid a fiver to get my pic taken with him, have to say he was a hero of mine growing up but he seemed very un-interested that evening and looked rather unwell. :(:(

    Got his book - on the internet from Canada last August and must admit, it was as good a read as I ever had, a definite 9/10... So when it comes out, all u wrasslin fans, no matter whether u favour Shawn, Undertaker, HHH or whoever, Get your mitts on this book!!


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 407 ✭✭kaiser soza


    Where is the meet&greet taking place.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,005 ✭✭✭✭callaway92




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 416 ✭✭Whiplash


    the book is a great read and i was lucky enough to meet bret before one of the rampage shows so i got a free autograph (woo hoo) bret was a pleasure to meet. he was so nice and friendly. he was one of my heros and he did not disappoint. tempted to go in april jst to say hello! The book itself is probably one of the best autobiographys you will ever read.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,602 ✭✭✭✭ShawnRaven


    Book is very detailed, and he went through a lot of sh*t with his family. His sisters were essentially the bitches of Eastwick, and it's clear that he was never the same since the death of Owen (which we kinda knew, but at the same time, it's different when it comes from the horses mouth).

    Just put a couple of weeks away for it, it is long, it is detailed. And it's worth every page.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 416 ✭✭Whiplash


    You are on the ball SR. I have read lots of wrestling autobiographys and books of all kinds. As I told bret to his face, His book is the best book i have ever read. there were nights that i would fight to stay awake to read just a few more pages


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,602 ✭✭✭✭ShawnRaven


    Whiplash wrote: »
    You are on the ball SR. I have read lots of wrestling autobiographys and books of all kinds. As I told bret to his face, His book is the best book i have ever read. there were nights that i would fight to stay awake to read just a few more pages

    Sadly I couldn't tell him the same, as i wasn't far into it when i got it signed. Despite having it for almost a year. But that's what planning a wedding does to your time. He was cool about it though, asked when I was getting married and had I much done so far. Which raised my estimation of the guy by several bars. :)

    Probably because for the first time, it was nice to see him as a human, rather than a character.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 416 ✭✭Whiplash


    I agree SR he was just like a regular guy and didnt seem to be in a rush to get away. he took time to pose for pics with me and my mate and sign my book and some of my mates stuff. And when i went to meet and greet to get an autograph for my sister he remembered me and called me by my name and was just brilliant. He really does love and respect his fans


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,602 ✭✭✭✭ShawnRaven


    Whiplash wrote: »
    I agree SR he was just like a regular guy and didnt seem to be in a rush to get away. he took time to pose for pics with me and my mate and sign my book and some of my mates stuff. And when i went to meet and greet to get an autograph for my sister he remembered me and called me by my name and was just brilliant. He really does love and respect his fans

    His agent was a complete cock though. I stood at the side talking with him the entire time for the Wrestling Mania signings as i'd put together a couple of compilation DVDs for the owner of the shop as a favour. But his agent really didn't have a clue about any of his matches (like the match he had with Savage in 87 on SNME, didn't even know what Mania the Piper match was on). I know he's an agent, and i'm not expecting Jerry Maguire treatment, but he really didn't seem to have a lot of interest in Bret's career, only future bookings.

    And while Bret wasn't in a hurry, he was horribly pressured by his Agent to get going. The poor guy didn't even have a chance to get a cup of coffee. That kinda irked me a little bit.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,820 ✭✭✭grames_bond


    ShawnRaven wrote: »
    His agent was a complete cock though. I stood at the side talking with him the entire time for the Wrestling Mania signings as i'd put together a couple of compilation DVDs for the owner of the shop as a favour. But his agent really didn't have a clue about any of his matches (like the match he had with Savage in 87 on SNME, didn't even know what Mania the Piper match was on). I know he's an agent, and i'm not expecting Jerry Maguire treatment, but he really didn't seem to have a lot of interest in Bret's career, only future bookings.

    And while Bret wasn't in a hurry, he was horribly pressured by his Agent to get going. The poor guy didn't even have a chance to get a cup of coffee. That kinda irked me a little bit.

    are you serious? that is rediculous! myself and orestes went to that signing and i have to say i thaught bret was a genuinely nice guy, nothing fake about him from what i saw!

    oh and SR you obviously did a great job with those compilation dvd's coz brets eyes kept getting pulled away to the screen above the door!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,463 ✭✭✭shinzon


    is it in wrestlingmania again in april ?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 21,235 ✭✭✭✭flahavaj


    ShawnRaven wrote: »
    Sadly I couldn't tell him the same, as i wasn't far into it when i got it signed. Despite having it for almost a year. But that's what planning a wedding does to your time. He was cool about it though, asked when I was getting married and had I much done so far. Which raised my estimation of the guy by several bars. :)

    Probably because for the first time, it was nice to see him as a human, rather than a character.

    We talked about this at the time and whatever you thought or think about Hart back in the day, meeting him even briefly, seeing him in person and seeing him at the show later that night made him seem much more human and showed him in a much much more sympathetic light than I had ever seen him before.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,602 ✭✭✭✭ShawnRaven


    shinzon wrote: »
    is it in wrestlingmania again in april ?

    I don't think the location has been announced yet. I haven't heard anything about it from the boys there anyway.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,602 ✭✭✭✭ShawnRaven


    are you serious? that is rediculous! myself and orestes went to that signing and i have to say i thaught bret was a genuinely nice guy, nothing fake about him from what i saw!

    Yeah, I think his Agent got him there late or somewhat or they got stuck in traffic on the way in, and leaving them pressed for time to get the signing finished and off to the AWR show.
    oh and SR you obviously did a great job with those compilation dvd's coz brets eyes kept getting pulled away to the screen above the door!

    Yeah, he spent a lot of time re-watching the Piper match. I saw him glancing up at the screen a couple of times as well. :)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,284 ✭✭✭Gerard.C


    Really looking foward to this book, but I've got 2 or 3 to get through first which is a bit of a dose. Just wondering, how many pages roughly are on Montreal? Just curiosity


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,602 ✭✭✭✭ShawnRaven


    Crap, i actually can't remember. He doesn't mull on it too much to be honest if i recall correctly though.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,284 ✭✭✭Gerard.C


    Nice one. It's the kinda thing that you'd just be sick of hearing about at this stage. I was watching his HOF speach today, I hop there's a fair few Owen stories in it, the ones he told at the ceremony were brilliant.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,602 ✭✭✭✭ShawnRaven


    Gerard.C wrote: »
    Nice one. It's the kinda thing that you'd just be sick of hearing about at this stage. I was watching his HOF speach today, I hop there's a fair few Owen stories in it, the ones he told at the ceremony were brilliant.

    And he's sick of telling it. He writes about the buildup to it, and then onto WCW with Hogan & Goldberg etc and the utter mess that it turned out to be.

    Even if it means backburnering it, do get the book, it's worth the read, even if you're like me and did get sick of the guy by the time 1994 rolled around.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,206 ✭✭✭✭Rjd2


    More Bret fans may see this here than the video thread.....
    The national film board of Canada is showing his Documentary Wrestling with shadows for free online on their site, much better than youtube quality.
    http://nfb.ca/film/hitman_hart_wrestling_with_shadows/
    Before you ask it their is lots of HBK talk:cool:
    In this feature-length documentary, director Paul Jay was given unprecedented access to the world of Bret Hart and pro wrestling as his camera followed Bret "the Hitman" Hart for one year. Going behind the tightly guarded walls of wrestling's spectacle and theatre, the film explores the meaning of today's wrestling morality plays. As fantasy crosses into real life, the true story of Bret Hart's struggle with Vince McMahon, the legendary owner of the WWF, is revealed. Hitman Hart: Wrestling with Shadows climaxes with the tale of the biggest double-cross in pro wrestling.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,054 ✭✭✭D.Q


    watching this now...top class stuff


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,424 ✭✭✭fatal


    The documentary really is one of the finest documentaries on pro wrestling


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,054 ✭✭✭D.Q


    hmmm Vince is singing a different tune nowadays..


    just finished there..unbelievable stuff. incredible access to it all. Can see myself watching this a good few times to be honest.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,602 ✭✭✭✭ShawnRaven


    fatal wrote: »
    The documentary really is one of the finest documentaries on pro wrestling

    Oh be real! It's so one sided that it's sickening. If i hear that hypocrite Bret whining one more time about him being screwed in front of his family and countrymen, yet trying to justify decking Vince in front of his son one more time, i really will puke.

    It would be one of the finest documentaries on pro wrestling if it wasn't so one sided, but it's horribly biased, trying to make Bret out to be the victim when we all know a lot of this could have been avoided had he just done the damn job. What did he care? He was going to the opposition anyway.

    Is it a good watch, yes, but is it one of the finest documentaries? Nah, not by a long shot. That award goes to Heroes Of World Class, the proper story of WCCW before Vince decided to try to rewrite history with his own DVD two years later.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,054 ✭✭✭D.Q


    hmmm...

    I think its one of the best to be honest. Simply for the access that the director has, its an unbelievable insight.

    I dont think its one sided. I mean, obviously Bret will be telling his side and his side only. But as far as the direction goes, it shows Bret in a negative light as well, it shows him as a whiny, selfish performer.

    I mean, when he fractured his sternum(dunno about spelling there) the sheer idiocy and stubborness he displayed was incredible, refusing to allow the guy to pin him because "he was one guy i didnt wanna lose to"

    I never knew he decked vince either..I felt very sorry for his kid.

    Also... what the **** is with his dad.. thats ****ed up like..


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,602 ✭✭✭✭ShawnRaven


    hmmm...

    I think its one of the best to be honest. Simply for the access that the director has, its an unbelievable insight.

    You should watch Beyond The Mat, they had their own camera for the Rock/Foley match where you see the reaction of Foleys wife and kids. You tend to not want to watch chairshots after it. That was a pretty good documentary, the Jake bits aren't great though.
    I dont think its one sided. I mean, obviously Bret will be telling his side and his side only. But as far as the direction goes, it shows Bret in a negative light as well, it shows him as a whiny, selfish performer.

    Hrm, to me it really tries to paint Bret as an innocent victim.
    I mean, when he fractured his sternum(dunno about spelling there) the sheer idiocy and stubborness he displayed was incredible, refusing to allow the guy to pin him because "he was one guy i didnt wanna lose to"

    Ah the infamous Dino Bravo house show match in 89. For those of you who wanted to know why the Harts were separated for the 1989 Survivor Series, now you know.
    I never knew he decked vince either..I felt very sorry for his kid.

    To be fair, Shane would have been around 20 at that stage I think, but still, I don't think i would have liked anyone decking anyone close to me at 30, nevermind 20.
    Also... what the **** is with his dad.. thats ****ed up like..

    You think that's insane? Read more into the Von Erichs, they make the Harts look like saints!


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,054 ✭✭✭D.Q


    ShawnRaven wrote: »



    To be fair, Shane would have been around 20 at that stage I think, but still, I don't think i would have liked anyone decking anyone close to me at 30, nevermind 20.



    You think that's insane? Read more into the Von Erichs, they make the Harts look like saints!

    I will do, dont know much about them.


    Haha i meant Brets kid, i recon shane could handle it!!

    Do you tink it paints him as a victim? i thought it came across quite clearly that he was flawed. Not from Bret.. but in general. The Director didnt have to show the flaws had he wanted to really be one sided.

    I mean, the access that was granted, would obviously require a certain degree of bias towards the harts, but, i still tink the director left enough in to allow the viewers to make their own minds up. As we both did.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,602 ✭✭✭✭ShawnRaven


    I will do, dont know much about them.


    Haha i meant Brets kid, i recon shane could handle it!!

    Do you tink it paints him as a victim? i thought it came across quite clearly that he was flawed. Not from Bret.. but in general. The Director didnt have to show the flaws had he wanted to really be one sided.

    I mean, the access that was granted, would obviously require a certain degree of bias towards the harts, but, i still tink the director left enough in to allow the viewers to make their own minds up. As we both did.

    I don't think Bret decked him in front of his own kids, they were outside with Julie.

    Given how film production generally works, i'm sure there's a LOT more footage that they intentionally would have edited out, that they could have left in if they really wanted to make it even sided. I love the bit where he insists that Sunny is "just a friend", If i was trying to defend myself from accusations, i wouldn't quite word it like that. That came across as iffy to me, but Bret has said nothing happens in his book, and Sytch has said in her shoot that nothing happened (although she spilled the beans with Shawn), and that's enough for me.

    I still think you should find copies of Heroes Of World Class and Beyond The Mat. Both of which put shadows to shame.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,054 ✭✭✭D.Q


    il definitely look into them.

    do ya reckon Shawn knew?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 937 ✭✭✭michael.etc...


    il definitely look into them.

    do ya reckon Shawn knew?

    Knew what? What was happening at Montreal?
    Yes- he's already admitted to it.

    For the record, I loved Wrestling with Shadows- but as discussed, it was far from an unbiased view. Great in terms of seeing things from Bret's perspective, and very well made. But not the overall look at a subject that Heroes of World Class was, as SR talked about.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,602 ✭✭✭✭ShawnRaven


    il definitely look into them.

    do ya reckon Shawn knew?

    No reckoning about it, both Shawn and HHH have publically admitted to it a few times since 2002.

    My fave question HHH answered a few years ago:

    Question: What if the Montreal Screwjob had been reversed?
    HHH: That would never have happened, we're not that stupid!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,054 ✭✭✭D.Q


    he has? im not gonna claim to know too much about this.. I really know what i know from hearsay and that documentary!!


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,602 ✭✭✭✭ShawnRaven


    he has? im not gonna claim to know too much about this.. I really know what i know from hearsay and that documentary!!

    Shawn admitted to it for the first time on a special of Confidential in the summer of 2002. Once that happened, the floodgates opened and everyone from Vince down to Steve Lombardi claimed to have known from the beginning.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,081 ✭✭✭✭chopperbyrne


    he has? im not gonna claim to know too much about this.. I really know what i know from hearsay and that documentary!!

    It's in Shawns book that both himself and Hunter knew. They needed to think of a way to do the swerve and then Bret came up with the spot of Shawn using the sharpshooter.

    I think the only person they didn't tell was Patterson. Earl Hebner only found out a few minutes beforehand too I think. (Not read Shawns book in a while)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,536 ✭✭✭Brimmy


    Just a heads up that Bret Hart is doing a signing two weeks from now in Easons on O'Connell street (Dublin).

    Can't remember the time but it was a Saturday so should be the 18th.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 45,640 ✭✭✭✭Mr.Nice Guy


    I missed the last one when he was here so I'll definitely try and make it. Do Easons allow you to get a picture taken at these signings or do they just hurry you along?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 87 ✭✭innercitydub1


    Met bret at the last one in the wrestling shop was realy nice

    i asked him what ring attire was his favorite and he told me the one from wrestlemania 12 was the best one.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,600 ✭✭✭✭CMpunked


    I missed the last one when he was here so I'll definitely try and make it. Do Easons allow you to get a picture taken at these signings or do they just hurry you along?

    I remember at foleys one it was a case of where you were in the queue.

    I was 2nd from the top with KKV at the front and we got about a 4/5 minute chat before security wanted to speed it up for the middle portion of the queue and then slow it down again when the line was nearing the end.

    But i cant see as many turning up for bret that turned up that day.

    The Easons security are dead cool, not at all like other security, the likes of the old point comes to mind(they were pricks!)..


    A while ago my mate was in at an Eddie Jordan signing and i wandered in (not a huge F1 fan but whatever) and there was something like a whole of 22 people for an hour and a half signing so he just hung out chatting to everyone all as a group.

    Would be cool if that sorta thing happened for Bret.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,602 ✭✭✭✭ShawnRaven


    The Easons security are dead cool, not at all like other security, the likes of the old point comes to mind(they were pricks!)..

    Are you sh*tting me? They made a shambles of the Rey Mysterio signing for the Are We There Yet signing in 2005!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,600 ✭✭✭✭CMpunked


    ShawnRaven wrote: »
    Are you sh*tting me? They made a shambles of the Rey Mysterio signing for the Are We There Yet signing in 2005!

    Pretty sure that was the majority WWE security who was doing it for that one.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,602 ✭✭✭✭ShawnRaven


    Pretty sure that was the majority WWE security who was doing it for that one.

    They weren't around to my knowledge. It was the Easons staff that f*cked that one up for sure.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,600 ✭✭✭✭CMpunked


    ShawnRaven wrote: »
    They weren't around to my knowledge. It was the Easons staff that f*cked that one up for sure.

    From talking to your one who sets up all the signings and stuff she was telling me that all the WWE wrestlers demand that they have their own security with them and any others be more just for "backup".

    And that Rey was one of the most un-friendly, un-inviting persons they have ever had there.
    Was a case of: Hand book to guy beside desk, he slides it onto table, rey signs, Hands to another guy the other side and he gives it back to the owner?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,602 ✭✭✭✭ShawnRaven


    From talking to your one who sets up all the signings and stuff she was telling me that all the WWE wrestlers demand that they have their own security with them and any others be more just for "backup".[/quote[

    Gotta take your word on that one, but i'm not so sure it's the same case in HMV.
    And that Rey was one of the most un-friendly, un-inviting persons they have ever had there.
    Was a case of: Hand book to guy beside desk, he slides it onto table, rey signs, Hands to another guy the other side and he gives it back to the owner?

    Yeah pretty much. Surprised he ain't slinging crack on the streets of San Diego at this stage, but unfortunately for every muppet that buys a mask at a show, keeps him in a job.

    Hey, i don't like it either! But don't blame me, i didn't invest in one! :D


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,424 ✭✭✭fatal


    The mysterio signing in easons was indeed shambles.However, they really did a great job for the mick foley signing,which was probably the best signing that I have been to in terms of organisation and fans being able to interact etc.

    By the way, it says nothing on the easons website about the Dublin signing,infact it doesn't even mention it


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,463 ✭✭✭shinzon


    just says this for the 17th on the Easons site

    Bret 'The Hitman' Hart signing copies of Hitman (Bret Hart)
    Donegall Place, Belfast
    Friday, 17 April 2009
    12:00 PM

    Nothing about Dublin OP where did you get this information

    Shin


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,594 ✭✭✭Fozzy


    shinzon wrote: »
    Nothing about Dublin OP where did you get this information

    Bret's website


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,820 ✭✭✭grames_bond


    The Easons security are dead cool, not at all like other security, the likes of the old point comes to mind(they were pricks!)..

    oi don't tar us all with the same brush! workin in the point was a hard fcukin job and i dont wanna hear people badmouthin segi (sword event guard)

    i will definatley be goin to the next signing, i just hope they understand that some/most people will already have the book signed so wont necessarily have it again!


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