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I'd typically get that response from some who likes DMX or some fecal deposit like that
Forgive my ignorance, but who are DMX?Annie Cuddly Gap wrote: »Ya, those who just like to have a few CDs floating about the house or in the car....
What you mean? people that don't really like music?0 -
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just got happiness in magazines by graham coxon, excellent stuff
I quite enjoyed some of coldplay's earlier stuff and have their first three albums, so shoot me?
To be honest plagiarism in music doesn't bother me, I consider mickey mouse copyright laws to be a much bigger problem... I honestly couldn't care if the 'original creator' (whatever that means) loses out, I'm not interested in music's origins, just in listening to it.0 -
I'd typically get that response from some who likes DMX or some fecal deposit like that
Sorry but where the hood at.............
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nice post JC
I love getting new and weird stuff. I love beats that don't do what I expected, I love having to work to bop along to a song. I'm currently getting about an album a week and I love getting all the new sounds
as mentioned before, newest is happiness in magazines by graham coxon Been enjoying some weird stuff by the who as well. Finally started getting daft punk albums, fun Got an album by creedence recently too
do I qualify as being into music? =P I wouldn't count myself as being into music really, to be honest... I really enjoy music, listening to it and hearing new (good) things, but I wouldn't generally go beyond enjoying at a surface level and wouldn't generally research new music too much, preferring to just hear it and then decide if I like it. The music I rate highest is the music that grows on me, and the lowest is the music that shrinks on me and suffers badly from 'sameness' and being overplayed.0 -
Hmm... what was the point of that again? Oh yeah, the claim that some people aren't really into music while admitting to liking MCR :pac:
I agree with everything you've written, though (even the part about MCR :P). I don't think people who like Kings of Leon or U2 aren't into music- I was just clarifying what an earlier poster said. In fact, I was going to write something similar to your post in response to this >>>Annie Cuddly Gap wrote: »Ya, those who just like to have a few CDs floating about the house or in the car....
But decided to leave it as I've had this argument too many times before.0 -
Well....
This amuses me slightly. Looking down on music and people who like said music despite admitting to liking a band who you probably like for exactly the same reason these people like those bands.
Almost everyone likes music to a certain extent. But there's liking the latest popular, accessible tunes, and there's really being into music - seeking out different genres, not caring what's current, challenging oneself rather than playing it safe and not stepping outside a comfortable boundary.
Now were there some kind of system of classifying how "into music" you were, you might be a step above most of your peers, but I'd contest that you wouldn't be much ahead of them if you'd rate MCR highly. With the extraordinary wealth of music out there, I find it hard to believe that anyone with a solid interest in music would rate their tired, unoriginal brand of commercial pop-punk in any way higher than mediocre.
Yeah but seeking out the progressive, experimental stuff doesn't neccesarily make you any more "into" music if you're doing it for the sake of it (not saying that you in particular are of course). Personally I spend a lot of time listening to music and I'd say I have a moderately diverse taste and collection (Beefheart, Battles, Sigur Ros, Arvo Part, Animal Collective, Foals, Crystal Castles, Joanna Newsom, Santogold, Velvet Underground, Gogol Bodello etc). But I still like throwing on...well maybe not MCR-but say an album like Never Mind The Bollocks or Aha Shake Heartbreak or Fight Like Apes or Hot Fuss or even *furtive glance* American Idiot every once in a while. Just because the music is "easier" doesn't mean it's worse neccesarily, there's more than one function of music and sometimes you just wanna RAWK
M'eh, I've also lost sight of my point 0 -
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Tommy Rhythmic Concrete wrote: »Yeah but seeking out the progressive, experimental stuff doesn't neccesarily make you any more "into" music if you're doing it for the sake of it (not saying that you in particular are of course). Personally I spend a lot of time listening to music and I'd say I have a moderately diverse taste and collection (Beefheart, Battles, Sigur Ros, Arvo Part, Animal Collective, Foals, Crystal Castles, Joanna Newsom, Santogold, Velvet Underground, Gogol Bodello etc). But I still like throwing on...well maybe not MCR-but say an album like Never Mind The Bollocks or Aha Shake Heartbreak or Fight Like Apes or Hot Fuss or even *furtive glance* American Idiot every once in a while. Just because the music is "easier" doesn't mean it's worse neccesarily, there's more than one function of music and sometimes you just wanna RAWK M'eh, I've also lost sight of my point
That it doesn't matter how complicated a piece as long as it fullfills it's aim to entertain people?
My own views are complicated, im a musician and as such i hate music now.... Basically im my own worse enemy, i over analysis music and will judge a piece by what is going on and who's playing what etc. Usually if i find a decent song ill go tab it out and thus remove the veal of mystery that surrounded it thus making it ****. :P There's nothing worse then finding out that a song you really like has been really lazily written.
Now im at the point where i find it so hard to find music that challenges me and suits my demands of melody and good musicianship.0 -
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Whatever he wrote in his first looooong post
Thing is though, I really dont look down on people who like stuff like U2 etc, I prefer the fact that theyre listening to that, over say really really awful gangster rap...
Anyway about MCR, Ive liked them for a while (Not before they were famous, but a good while before they got any real promotion in Ireland, and before I actually had music channels on TV, but that's besides the point). I like them, theyre easily my favourite band, why? Because:- I started listening to them at a fairly appropriate age(Like reading Catcher In The Rye, if you read it at the wrong age, its really not that enjoyable)/time in my own life
- They act as a spring board getting me into a wealth of other band, not nessecarily in the same scene
- The fact that I liked them, made it crystal clear that I didnt need to like any of the music my peers did, which at the wasnt entirely clear to me (Things were'nt exactly going great in life....how brilliantly emo :pac:)
I'm not here trying to defend the band, or their choices, but I like their music. I love their first album, which is alot rawer, and just generally better then anything else they wrote. Does that mean I dont like their older stuff? No, not at all, I just prefer the first album, then the second album, and after that the third. I understand that people think that its just whiney shíte, fair enough, I still enjoy it. I'll repeat endlessly that music doesnt have to be upbeat the entire time.
I remember when The Black Parade came out, I do remember cringing slightly any time it was on TV, but looking back on it, I think it was so much better to have say Teenagers doing well in the charts, than whatever it was competing against at the time.
For the past week or so I've been going through my bi-annual MCR phase where I'll listen to them for mot of the time. Its great, its just simple (IMO) well written music that I happen to enjoy. Its nice to get away from other stuff I like sometimes, Venetian Snare is an example, I really like listening the music, but its so intense it kinda leaves me all head-achey, same with stuff like Botch, Dillinger Escape Plan, Converge. I like really full on stuff like that, but you really have to be in the mood. Then I could shift to some lighter stuff, like Denali or Alanis.
Point is though, that I dont care how marketable music is, I dont give a flying fúck how mainstream it is. I just have to enjoy it. I dont care how heavy a rotation a band I like has on MTV, theyre getting little or no money from me, I'd rather see them making whatever they can, because everyone knows the music industry is in the fúcking toilet at the moment.
There is so much music out there that I'm yet to find, and some day I'll get to it, but for the moment, I'm pretty content to listen to what I have now, however generic and shíte it is, its mine.
[I COULD reread this and improve its coherency/relevance, but I'm faaaaar too hungover to try, might revise it later]0 -
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Ah right, so it's just the rap fans you look down on?Thing is though, I really dont look down on people who like stuff like U2 etc, I prefer the fact that theyre listening to that, over say really really awful gangster rap...
Contradiction much? :pac:I think it was so much better to have say Teenagers doing well in the charts, than whatever it was competing against at the time.
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Point is though, that I dont care how marketable music is, I dont give a flying fúck how mainstream it is. I just have to enjoy it. I dont care how heavy a rotation a band I like has on MTV
It's funny though. When you start to take a more than passing interest in a certain genre of music, it seems to automatically lead to some kind of subconscious prejudice.0 -
Ah right, so it's just the rap fans you look down on?
Contradiction much? :pac:
It's funny though. When you start to take a more than passing interest in a certain genre of music, it seems to automatically lead to some kind of subconscious prejudice.
Not all rap fans, just ones who only like really just ridiculous gangster rap (Or "Crunk" *Shudder*)
I dont think its a contradiction, their rotation didnt affect my opinion of the band, took a bit of getting used to, seeing music I actually like on TV, sadly I dont really watch a huge amount of TV. (I remember the first time they played Welcome to the Black Parade publicly {Roof of a hotel in Vegas during the MTV awards} and hours after there were just floods of comments on their Myspace from "Hardcore" fans bitching that they did it, dont really see the problem in promotion tbh......)0 -
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Why?Not all rap fans, just ones who only like really just ridiculous gangster rap (Or "Crunk" *Shudder*)
You said it was better that Teenagers was in the charts than something else, indicating that, to a certain extent at least, you value the band's popularity.I dont think its a contradiction, their rotation didnt affect my opinion of the band, took a bit of getting used to, seeing music I actually like on TV
There's a huge debate to be had about music and business, corporate culture, selling out, the intent behind bands releasing music etc. When it comes to a global stage and the big record labels, there's no such thing as simple honest promotion.(I remember the first time they played Welcome to the Black Parade publicly {Roof of a hotel in Vegas during the MTV awards} and hours after there were just floods of comments on their Myspace from "Hardcore" fans bitching that they did it, dont really see the problem in promotion tbh......)0 -
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