Jobs that pay way too much for the work done

RATM

Was having a conversation in de public house last night on jobs that pay well over the odds for what is involved. We came to the conclusion that the vast majority are in the public sector but there are also some in the private sector too.

One was train drivers. Fairly responsible job but one of the lads said a cousin of his does it and freely admits that the €50k p.a. he gets paid is waaaay too much for the level of skill and training involved. He just sits there and pulls a few levers/ presses a few buttons all day.

Another was my own sister, a consultant anaesthetist. It is quite a responsible job to be fair, like people might die if she screws up. However when I go around to her private clinic to pick her up for lunch I often have to wait until the last patient is seen. In the ten minutes it takes her to see them she makes €160. Lunch is always on her. In fairness she worked v.hard for 12 years to get where she is now but I still don't see how €250k p.a. is justified.

Any others ?

Show_me_Safety

taxi drivers!

probably my own job.

most jobs actually.

RATM

Show_me_Safety wrote: »

taxi drivers!

Bait in the water:D

probably my own job

Health and Safety Inspector ?

kathy2

Why would your sister or anyone else study all those years for no reward. Medicine is hard going. She might as well have stayed in bed, while there are people in bed who have never worked a day. Strange times we live in the rich get poorer and the poor get poorer so whose getting the money:D

TestTransmission

RATM wrote: »

Was having a conversation in de public house last night on jobs that pay well over the odds for what is involved. We came to the conclusion that the vast majority are in the public sector but there are also some in the private sector too.

One was train drivers. Fairly responsible job but one of the lads said a cousin of his does it and freely admits that the €50k p.a. he gets paid is waaaay too much for the level of skill and training involved. He just sits there and pulls a few levers/ presses a few buttons all day.

Another was my own sister, a consultant anaesthetist. It is quite a responsible job to be fair, like people might die if she screws up. However when I go around to her private clinic to pick her up for lunch I often have to wait until the last patient is seen. In the ten minutes it takes her to see them she makes €160. Lunch is always on her. In fairness she worked v.hard for 12 years to get where she is now but I still don't see how €250k p.a. is justified.

Any others ?

how much value do you place on a life?

kowloon

A certain footballer may be getting paid a lot more than he's worth soon enough.

seanybiker

jackncoke wrote: »

how much value do you place on a life?

depends on whose life. Average about fiddy quid

Show_me_Safety

Health and Safety Inspector ?

banker me

:rolleyes:

glaston

Long term unemployed.
Why should the rest of us pay for people who are too lazy to scratch themselves.

sillymoo

kathy2 wrote: »

Why would your sister or anyone else study all those years for no reward. Medicine is hard going. She might as well have stayed in bed, while there are people in bed who have never worked a day. Strange times we live in the rich get poorer and the poor get poorer so whose getting the money:D

This blog http://doctoryblog.wordpress.com/ might shed some light on the work of a junior doctor.

Yes consultants get paid quite a bit, but dont label all doctors with the same brush.

deadhead13

The highest paid politicians of all OECD countries who spend the least amount of time in parliament i.e. ours.

Eglinton

Accountants - P1ss easy and they've proved with Anglo Irish that they can't even get it right.

Conveyance Lawyers - Shouldn't be required at all. I for one am glad that a lot of them will lose out with the housing downturn.

ESB employees - Hold the country to ransom each decade.

Pharmacists - Shopkeepers with an attitude

RATM

kathy2 wrote: »

Why would your sister or anyone else study all those years for no reward. Medicine is hard going. She might as well have stayed in bed, while there are people in bed who have never worked a day. Strange times we live in the rich get poorer and the poor get poorer so whose getting the money:D

Because they care about helping people through their medical problems perhaps?Isn't that the ethos of studying medicine?
I'm not saying doctors don't deserve to get paid well considering the amount of work they put in to get there. I am saying €250k p.a. is an obscene amount of money for the work involved. Vast majority of doctors in the world earn only a fraction of this wage and seem perfectly happy working for it.

galwayrush

All people in senior positions in semi state bodies / Goveremnt positions in Ireland, esp when they get massive rewards for incompetence. eg the guy who resigned from FAS. Massive golden handshake and a pension way higher than most of us would dare dream of as a salary.:mad:

MagicMarker

Take your pick from anyone in middle management and work your way up.

Local-womanizer

kowloon wrote: »

A certain footballer may be getting paid a lot more than he's worth soon enough.

All footballers get paid way too much.Iam just glad kaka donates his part of his wages to charity.:)

Every politician gets paid far too much.

lecturers.

invincibleirish

kathy2 wrote: »

Why would your sister or anyone else study all those years for no reward. Medicine is hard going. She might as well have stayed in bed, while there are people in bed who have never worked a day. Strange times we live in the rich get poorer and the poor get poorer so whose getting the money:D

The system of public/private medicine in this country is designed for the personal enrichment of those involved and not for the benefit of the patients.

deadhead13

No, he donates it to a very dodgey couple who front a church in Brazil.

IvySlayer

Prostitutes.

My wallet has never been so emp....Oh damn.

Jazzy

footballers

jesus_thats_gre

RATM wrote: »

Another was my own sister, a consultant anaesthetist. It is quite a responsible job to be fair, like people might die if she screws up. However when I go around to her private clinic to pick her up for lunch I often have to wait until the last patient is seen. In the ten minutes it takes her to see them she makes €160. Lunch is always on her. In fairness she worked v.hard for 12 years to get where she is now but I still don't see how €250k p.a. is justified.

You go from mentioning a train driver to someone who stupied for 12 years?!?!?!?!?!


If she studied for 12 years, she deserves it...

MagicMarker

jesus_thats_gre wrote: »

You go from mentioning a train driver to someone who stupied for 12 years?!?!?!?!?!


If she studied for 12 years, she deserves it...

In that case I deserve it, I went to school for 12 years.

IvySlayer

MagicMarker wrote: »

In that case I deserve it, I went to school for 12 years.

Going and actually learning are different

swingking

politicians enough said

galwayrush

The board of directors from Anglo Irish.:rolleyes:

Snowie

glaston wrote: »

Long term unemployed.
Why should the rest of us pay for people who are too lazy to scratch themselves.

:rolleyes:, do unemployed people not pay tax when they buy food or when they pay bills ?

do unemployed people not pay tax when they buy them selves a drink ? thats the most dumb ass responce ive ever read ....:rolleyes:

jesus_thats_gre

MagicMarker wrote: »

In that case I deserve it, I went to school for 12 years.

I obviously meant University..

MementoMori

The legal profession - when you consider what they actually do they are massively overpaid. Total monoply no competition.

Train Drivers I'd agree with - a reasonably awake 15 year old could be a train driver after probably 15 mins training.

Chemists/Pharmacists - I don't understand why they get paid so much. All they seem to do is read doctors' perscriptions and hand over drugs. A monkey could do this.

Sir Gallagher

jackncoke wrote: »

how much value do you place on a life?

That's hardly the point is it, she's hardly gonna be better at her job because she gets paid more. How good you are at your job and how much you get paid aren't necesserally relative.

minidazzler

MementoMori wrote: »

The legal profession - when you consider what they actually do they are massively overpaid. Total monoply no competition.

Train Drivers I'd agree with - a reasonably awake 15 year old could be a train driver after probably 15 mins training.

Chemists/Pharmacists - I don't understand why they get paid so much. All they seem to do is read doctors' perscriptions and hand over drugs. A monkey could do this.

RE; Chemists. Its because the writing is so small!!!

kiwikid

Eglinton wrote: »

Pharmacists - Shopkeepers with an attitude

lol - totally agree!

lecturers - ones who don't support their research students.

cant think any more

ejmaztec

Bono - nuff said.

irish_bob

too numerous to name in this country where we pay each other so much , i choose guards , a seargant which is just one promotion is paid over 60 grand a year and thats not counting over time , most guards do feck all as being a guard is a doss unless your in a rough area and most areas in ireland are still not that rough

m5ex9oqjawdg2i

Footballers It's not exactly a job, panzies running around.

Consultants, especially the medical TARDS, who tell you "you have ulcers, that will be 80 euro please" They told me that in the hospital you muppet.

Pharmasists get paid too much? ROFL. Considering the 7+ years of crap they have to put up with to get into that position, why shouldn't they. They are very like consultants that you don't have to pay.

m5ex9oqjawdg2i

irish_bob wrote: »

too numerous to name in this country where we pay each other so much , i choose guards , a seargant which is just one promotion is paid over 60 grand a year and thats not counting over time , most guards do feck all as being a guard is a doss unless your in a rough area and most areas in ireland are still not that rough

What rock did you climb out from under?

elpresdentde

deadhead13 wrote: »

The highest paid polictians of all OECD countries who spend the least amount of time in parliament i.e. ours.

they maybe be overpaid which they are but the less time they spend in the dail the less damage they can do.

sillymoo

Andre Fluffy Coin wrote: »

Pharmasists get paid too much? ROFL. Considering the 7+ years of crap they have to put up with to get into that position, why shouldn't they. They are very like consultants that you don't have to pay.

where are you getting these 7+ years from????

irish_bob

Andre Fluffy Coin wrote: »

What rock did you climb out from under?

do elaborate

freyners

3/4 managers in the HSE
all ministers
anyone connected wth ff:D

angeldelight

sillymoo wrote: »

where are you getting these 7+ years from????

It may not be 7 years exactly but it's a 4 year undergraduate degree followed by a one-year placement before sitting the licence exam for the pharmaceutical society of Ireland. For many it's also working our ass off in 5th and 6th yr too to get the points but technically it's 5 years

Nightwish

Many of the Grade VIII's and above in the HSE.
Politicians/Junior ministers/junior ministers "special advisors" i.e. their sons
Many Hospital Domestic staff
Lawyers and Solicitors
Anyone involved in conveyancing. You can do it yourself for free!

Holsten

Footballers, Actors, Tv People, etc....

Sir Gallagher

ejmaztec wrote: »

Bono - nuff said.

A clown yes but i'd be fairly certain Bono has put in a lot of hard work to get where he is today.

DanGlee

I work for an American insurance company that outsources its software people in Ireland I have to say that the Managers and "team leads" - glorified gob shi*e managers which anybody can do and there is one for every 2 employee's, get paid a lot more than the people doing the work and all they do is sit on their holes and handle the holidays and timesheets... god forbid should they ever do a little bit of work... yet they get all the cudos and thanks for the work the employee's do!!!

And management... well... they just talk crap all day long, go into meetings, all day long, sit on the phone all day long, have the odd pointless one-to-one with employees, promise them promotions and other stuff they never follow through with and still earn 60k to 80k easily...

Argh...

A retarded one armed deaf monkey could do their job...

irish_bob

DanGlee wrote: »

I work for an American insurance company that outsources its software people in Ireland I have to say that the Managers and "team leads" - glorified gob shi*e managers which anybody can do and there is one for every 2 employee's, get paid a lot more than the people doing the work and all they do is sit on their holes and handle the holidays and timesheets... god forbid should they ever do a little bit of work... yet they get all the cudos and thanks for the work the employee's do!!!

And management... well... they just talk crap all day long, go into meetings, all day long, sit on the phone all day long, have the odd pointless one-to-one with employees, promise them promotions and other stuff they never follow through with and still earn 60k to 80k easily...

Argh...

A retarded one armed deaf monkey could do their job...

yes , but they have one very important weapon at thier disposal

A VOTE , having that weapon at their disposal is what gives them their absolute job security , everything that happens in the civil service is political , everything

Alicat

Eglinton wrote: »

Pharmacists - Shopkeepers with an attitude

MementoMori wrote: »

Chemists/Pharmacists - I don't understand why they get paid so much. All they seem to do is read doctors' perscriptions and hand over drugs. A monkey could do this.

Whoa whoa whoa, hold the friggin' phone.

How well do you think you'd do if you had to do it?

Doctor's quite regularly write prescriptions incorrectly, and it is the pharmacists who often catch these mistakes. Only yesterday in work, we received a prescription for a customer which didn't seem quite right; it didn't match up with any of her other medication that she gets regularly and the dosage was all wrong. We rang her GP who had just copied the prescription out word for word from a consultant's prescription in a hospital. Still unhappy with it, we rang the hospital, spent ages trying to get a hold of this consultant. Turns out the consultant had written the wrong drug completely, he was mortified and we had to change the prescription to the right drug for him. Neither the GP or the consultant copped the mistake until the pharmacist informed them.

Don't you think that customer is glad that the pharmacist didn't just "read doctors' perscriptions and hand over drugs"?

I don't think that customer minds the Pharmacists wages after an experience like that.

ejmaztec

angeldelight wrote: »

It may not be 7 years exactly but it's a 4 year undergraduate degree followed by a one-year placement before sitting the licence exam for the pharmaceutical society of Ireland. For many it's also working our ass off in 5th and 6th yr too to get the points but technically it's 5 years

........not to mention the danger money involved when a pharmacist has to contact the gp to tell them that what they've prescribed will kill the patient stone dead if taken in combination. :eek:

Highsider

Anyone at all working in the banking sector

ejmaztec

Sir Gallagher wrote: »

A clown yes but i'd be fairly certain Bono has put in a lot of hard work to get where he is today.

.......that reminds me - a lot of comedians are also overpaid...:pac: and clowns......:P

shane86

Teachers. In particular PE teachers. One of ours was morbidly obese, it is unbelieveable that she got paid god knows how much per year (seeing as she was in her 50s and in the job a while) to do no more than tell us to get changed and sit in her car on the colder days (I sh1t you not) smoking while we played football.

HR staff

People in the civil service take the piss

GA361

irish_bob wrote: »

i choose guards , a seargant which is just one promotion is paid over 60 grand a year and thats not counting over time

Where are you getting these random stats from??????
An Inspector only earns a maximum of 55000 w/o overtime!