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  • Registered Users Posts: 13,438 ✭✭✭✭thermo


    re-opened, on a trial basis.
    please post a short description and a link to the "news" item.
    do not post pics or any other copyrighted material.
    thanks :)



  • Registered Users Posts: 373 ✭✭desertstorm


    :) Get the ball rolling so...

    not sure if this has been mentioned elsewhere here, but saw this was put up a few days ago so I'm guessing it's been made available recent enough as well. GBB conversion kit for PTS Masada



    Its on my wishlist if they release a full GBB Masada unit so I don't have to go about getting the AEG too first

    Edit: Saw it on ehobbyasia a couple of days ago, but can't see it there now? was around $230 I think
    Edit2: http://shop.ehobbyasia.com/beta-project-by-pts-masada-gbb-conversion-kit-dark-earth.html


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 975 ✭✭✭CpcRc


    Not irish news, but another law in america that's changing legal status of airsoft devices.



  • Registered Users Posts: 1,621 ✭✭✭Jsmurff


    CpcRc wrote: »
    Not irish news, but another law in america that's changing legal status of airsoft

    Well their screwed :pac:


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,045 ✭✭✭OzCam


    http://www.strikehold.net/2012/04/30/denmark-adopting-multicam/

    Let's hope there will be lots of M/84 available secondhand for us to play in. It works better in Irish airsoft sites than MC does (that's my excuse for never being able to find Casper when I go to Predator, and I'm sticking to it).


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  • Registered Users Posts: 14,148 ✭✭✭✭Lemming


    Jsmurff wrote: »
    Well their screwed :pac:

    "I'm alright Jack".

    New Jersey is east coast USA. And car-drive away from Washington DC. It wouldn't take much for Irish politicians keen on making their name "against de glocks" to take inspiration from that legislative move. There are similar moves (again) over on the west coast after a very controversial bill was slapped silly and defeated in recent months.

    The "I'm alright Jack" attitude was thrown around aplenty by US players scoffing at the UK when the VCRB (now VCRA) was floated, then they got theirs. Irish politicians are fond of looking to the UK & US politically so someone somewhere might get ideas that you really don't want them to get.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,621 ✭✭✭Jsmurff


    Lemming wrote: »
    Jsmurff wrote: »
    Well their screwed :pac:

    "I'm alright Jack".

    New Jersey is east coast USA. And car-drive away from Washington DC. It wouldn't take much for Irish politicians keen on making their name "against de glocks" to take inspiration from that legislative move. There are similar moves (again) over on the west coast after a very controversial bill was slapped silly and defeated in recent months.

    The "I'm alright Jack" attitude was thrown around aplenty by US players scoffing at the UK when the VCRB (now VCRA) was floated, then they got theirs. Irish politicians are fond of looking to the UK & US politically so someone somewhere might get ideas that you really don't want them to get.

    Oh yeah… sh*t… :(


  • Registered Users Posts: 6,261 ✭✭✭Puding


    With summer approaching, so is the release date of the KWA KRISS Vector GBB SMG. The gun will feature a folding stock, 2-round burst, polymer upper and lower receiver, and a bolt system designed to replicate the bolt of the real KRISS. The gun will shoot somewhere around 360-380 fps, and will have a rate of fire of 20+ RPS. The price will range from $300-400 USD. The gun is truly going to be something special, and it will soon be on the airsoft market and in the hands of happy airsofters very soon.

    By http://www.airsoft2day.com - World Airsoft News - Read full article: http://www.airsoft2day.com/news/463-article-title-will-be-created-automaticly.html#ixzz1u1aLvMZT

    http://www.airsoft2day.com/news/463-article-title-will-be-created-automaticly.html


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,011 ✭✭✭sliabh


    A mate passed me this video from Border War 4 in the Czech republic last month:


    1600 players from all over central Europe. Bring your own vehicle, 2 of the units were airborne - for a €23 supplement they got a 3 minute spin into the game area. I'd pay that!


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,045 ✭✭✭OzCam




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  • Registered Users Posts: 3,207 ✭✭✭hightower1


    New vid of the WE gbb SVD thats apparently almost ready for production. Also another vid on the biohazard (resi 5) full auto m9 , looks savage.






  • Registered Users Posts: 2,006 ✭✭✭Southern Dandy


    Did you see WE are taking a stab at aegs now aswell, when you switch it to safe it precocks.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,621 ✭✭✭Jsmurff


    Did you see WE are taking a stab at aegs now aswell, when you switch it to safe it precocks.
    As in it sets the piston to the rear?
    That sounds like its going to be a proprietary gearbox and will that not wear down the spring quicker?


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,006 ✭✭✭Southern Dandy


    Jsmurff wrote: »
    As in it sets the piston to the rear?
    That sounds like its going to be a proprietary gearbox and will that not wear down the spring quicker?


    Crap soz dude, it takes the tension off the spring de-cocks? if that is the correct terminology :)

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K-m0tdl6P7E&list=UUxY04Dcd6JOcXVeAYKyh7vQ&index=3&feature=plcp


  • Registered Users Posts: 3,152 ✭✭✭Inari


    Crap soz dude, it takes the tension off the spring de-cocks? if that is the correct terminology :)

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K-m0tdl6P7E&list=UUxY04Dcd6JOcXVeAYKyh7vQ&index=3&feature=plcp

    I was just about to say it decocks, not precocks.

    Their entrance into the AEG market is intriguing if not a little...um, odd.


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,006 ✭✭✭Southern Dandy


    Inari wrote: »
    I was just about to say it decocks, not precocks.

    Their entrance into the AEG market is intriguing if not a little...um, odd.

    Well if WE'S aegs are anything to WE's first batch of GBBR's then Ill be waiting for a V2 before Id entertain the idea of buying one.


  • Registered Users Posts: 3,152 ✭✭✭Inari


    Well if WE'S aegs are anything to WE's first batch of GBBR's then Ill be waiting for a V2 before Id entertain the idea of buying one.

    It's just an odd move for a company so dominant in the GBBR market to diversify into AEG's. Many are speculating that due to the demand of AEG M4's that it is to fund more R&D, but I reckon it is far simpler than that...considering that HK3P are seemingly in bed with them (my bet is subsidiary company), I'd say that they have since bought another company whom are working on different AEG's.

    Random conspiracy theory FTW!


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,006 ✭✭✭Southern Dandy


    Inari wrote: »
    It's just an odd move for a company so dominant in the GBBR market to diversify into AEG's. Many are speculating that due to the demand of AEG M4's that it is to fund more R&D, but I reckon it is far simpler than that...considering that HK3P are seemingly in bed with them (my bet is subsidiary company), I'd say that they have since bought another company whom are working on different AEG's.

    Random conspiracy theory FTW!

    Look at brands like G&P, KINGARMS, KWA all aeg manufacturers and now making GBBR's based similarly on existing GBBR platforms.

    In reverse here you have WE, main manufacturer of, and market leaders in the gbbr world. Its just competition, simple economics to keep up with contenders.


  • Registered Users Posts: 40,291 ✭✭✭✭Gatling


    The G&p gbbrs have been around just as long as the we ones better quality too ,its a case of pre Mauri v2, gas guns been taken seriously again , all I want is an affordable ashi m60 with gbb


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,006 ✭✭✭Southern Dandy


    Gatling wrote: »
    The G&p gbbrs have been around just as long as the we ones better quality too ,its a case of pre Mauri v2, gas guns been taken seriously again , all I want is an affordable ashi m60 with gbb

    But they still are pretty much predominantly aeg manufacturers as are the others.

    I love gbbr's. I actually got into airsoft because of these but there a cash pit, upgrade parts, gas, magazines costs and capacity, cool down effect etc. I think for realism you can't beat them though.

    Electric blowbacks are guna be the new thing, apparently the KWA erg's, and real sword (I think its real sword anyway) have a very noticeable kick similar to a gbbr, well apparently anyway, it will be interesting to see when they come out.

    Yea I think any heavy machine gun with a gbb style kick would be unreal.

    If you go on to the ARES website there is a BARRET .50cal gas blow back in the works.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 14,148 ✭✭✭✭Lemming


    Look at brands like G&P, KINGARMS, KWA all aeg manufacturers and now making GBBR's based similarly on existing GBBR platforms.

    In reverse here you have WE, main manufacturer of, and market leaders in the gbbr world. Its just competition, simple economics to keep up with contenders.

    Most GBBR manufacturers build to an existing GBBR platform; namely WA. The odd one out is WE. So saying that all these other manufacturers are AEG manufacturers jumping on the GBBR bandwagon is a non-argument.

    One could argue that given the volume of WA-platform gun offerings vs. WE guns that WE are neither a market leader or main manufacturer as you have painted the picture. A significant player, yes, but not quite the picture you painted. That WE have also focused exclusively on gas guns is neither here nor there because they are not alone in that regard as a manufacturer; I can name Marushin & Maruzen as two obvious candidates off the top of my head.

    None of the above makes WE crap or inferior (or vice versa the WA platform), just different. It's like trying to argue who is better; BMW or Mercedes.

    But they still are pretty much predominantly aeg manufacturers as are the others.

    Most airsoft manufacturers build across multiple platforms (AEG, Spring, Gas); it's good business sense to grow your market share. So what of it?


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,006 ✭✭✭Southern Dandy


    Lemming wrote: »
    Most GBBR manufacturers build to an existing GBBR platform; namely WA. The odd one out is WE. So saying that all these other manufacturers are AEG manufacturers jumping on the GBBR bandwagon is a non-argument.

    If you read my post properly you'll see that the point I am making is that aeg manufacturers produced gbbr's for the simple reason there branching out, visa versa with WE and the aeg that they have made. A "non-argument" please explain? I'm not arguing nothing. Its a point, which to me seems fairly obvious.
    Lemming wrote: »
    One could argue that given the volume of WA-platform gun offerings vs. WE guns that WE are neither a market leader or main manufacturer as you have painted the picture. A significant player, yes, but not quite the picture you painted. That WE have also focused exclusively on gas guns is neither here nor there because they are not alone in that regard as a manufacturer; I can name Marushin & Maruzen as two obvious candidates off the top of my head.

    I am not on about platforms I am referring to brands. WE have the most variety when it comes to GBBR and yes they have exclusively focused on the gbb market not unless WE have been producing AEG for some time now and I am completely oblivious to this fact. The more variety they have the more peoples taste requirements are met and in doing so they have the that edge over other gbb manufacturers. Yes I am speculating about WE being a market leader but no more so than you to be honest, your making this more of a piss-ing contest by the sounds of it.
    Lemming wrote: »
    None of the above makes WE crap or inferior (or vice versa the WA platform), just different. It's like trying to argue who is better; BMW or Mercedes.

    Where did that come from?



    Lemming wrote: »
    Most airsoft manufacturers build across multiple platforms (AEG, Spring, Gas); it's good business sense to grow your market share. So what of it?

    And there you have it lady's and gents my original point to begin with, not an argument a point that WE are trying to diversify. But you made a big drama out of it. So what of it?


  • Registered Users Posts: 14,148 ✭✭✭✭Lemming


    My apologies SouthernDandy, I had missed Inari's comments above yours so I read the exchange between yourself & Gatling out of context.


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,006 ✭✭✭Southern Dandy


    Lemming wrote: »
    My apologies SouthernDandy, I had missed Inari's comments above yours so I read the exchange between yourself & Gatling out of context.

    Its grand, please excuse my excessive rant in retaliation :D.


  • Registered Users Posts: 40,291 ✭✭✭✭Gatling


    I'm innocent .

    As it stands gbbr wise you have maurzen ,maurshin ,forgot all about Western Arms ,inokatsu ,g&p ,we (l85,m4 g36 m14) kjw ,src (mp5 m4 g36 AK ) ranges ,ghk,escort drop. in kits ,polestar conversion kits ,and then the classics jax and ashi


  • Registered Users Posts: 3,152 ✭✭✭Inari


    GBBR's will eventually take over the market, as they become more viable a system...however I firmly believe that it is still approximately 5 years out. For now, it's AEG country...perhaps WE are subtly acknowledging this :P

    WA make excellent high-quality replicas for the Japanese market, focusing on realism (weight, attention to detail i.e. firing pin design on 1911's unlike marui's hex screw etc) - the GBBR M4 was a natural progression for them. Since they did the R&D, everyone else cloned the crap out of it, or just made upgrade parts.

    KJW/Tanio Koba figured he could do better, and did. The KJW GBBR is the only out-of-the-box skirmishable GBBR M4, but magazines are hard to come by. WE saw an opportunity, and brought out an affordable (but ultimately snuffed) GBBR M4, and then ported it over quickly into two other models; SCAR-L & PDW. They were slated for the brass tube system, so once again rushed out the "Open Bolt" - it performed much worse than the brass tube system, but it did improve upon the realism. This gave WE a firm grasp on the GBBR market for variety...but it was with their G36C that they gained notoriety - it's magazines were reliable, good performers & in general it was an impressive feat. They then made the same mistake, and tried to diversify too quickly, with their later models being a bit of a travesty...particularly their AK.

    With WE being exclusively GBB, they have seriously vested interests, and since they are notoriously sub-par without considerable investment - they rely solely on R&D in new models so that they can snap up as much custom as possible, with RATech picking up the slack. The move to AEG is very strange, nearly incomprehensible - they effectively own the GBBR market, yet are moving into AEG's....my head hurts :D


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,621 ✭✭✭Jsmurff


    Lemming wrote: »
    My apologies SouthernDandy, I had missed Inari's comments above yours so I read the exchange between yourself & Gatling out of context.

    This week on Airsoft news lemming apologises for correcting someone :eek:


  • Registered Users Posts: 14,148 ✭✭✭✭Lemming


    Jsmurff wrote: »
    This week on Airsoft news lemming apologises for correcting someone :eek:

    It's a brave new world ...


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,006 ✭✭✭Southern Dandy


    Inari wrote: »
    GBBR's will eventually take over the market, as they become more viable a system...however I firmly believe that it is still approximately 5 years out. For now, it's AEG country...perhaps WE are subtly acknowledging this :P

    WA make excellent high-quality replicas for the Japanese market, focusing on realism (weight, attention to detail i.e. firing pin design on 1911's unlike marui's hex screw etc) - the GBBR M4 was a natural progression for them. Since they did the R&D, everyone else cloned the crap out of it, or just made upgrade parts.

    KJW/Tanio Koba figured he could do better, and did. The KJW GBBR is the only out-of-the-box skirmishable GBBR M4, but magazines are hard to come by. WE saw an opportunity, and brought out an affordable (but ultimately snuffed) GBBR M4, and then ported it over quickly into two other models; SCAR-L & PDW. They were slated for the brass tube system, so once again rushed out the "Open Bolt" - it performed much worse than the brass tube system, but it did improve upon the realism. This gave WE a firm grasp on the GBBR market for variety...but it was with their G36C that they gained notoriety - it's magazines were reliable, good performers & in general it was an impressive feat. They then made the same mistake, and tried to diversify too quickly, with their later models being a bit of a travesty...particularly their AK.

    With WE being exclusively GBB, they have seriously vested interests, and since they are notoriously sub-par without considerable investment - they rely solely on R&D in new models so that they can snap up as much custom as possible, with RATech picking up the slack. The move to AEG is very strange, nearly incomprehensible - they effectively own the GBBR market, yet are moving into AEG's....my head hurts :D

    +1 on that.

    If companies can manufacture an aeg though with a significant blowback as in on par with a GBBR, I think the GBBR world will stay as it is they defo wont dominate the airsoft world to the extent that aegs do now. That all does depend on such an aeg coming into the market. Fingers crossed....

    In warmer climates GBBR are at there best, unfortunately over here we suffer the consequences of "cool down". Yeah fine you can use CO2 but ideally you would want to get reinforcement parts to cope, yet more money invested, the magazine costs again a fortune for such low capacity magazine fine If you really really really love mil-sim but your going to want a lot of them and again a lot of money invested.

    If brands like WE or WA or any other GBBR manufacturers could make magazines (if they do, my apologies) that counter act cool down well to certain degree anyway, and have a capacity greater than 50+ rounds that would be great. Something like KSC's system 7, but when you see the cost of the magazines for the USP alone 50 bloody euro making a GBBR mag with a system 7ish setup would probably cost a fortune.

    I love GBBR's like I said I got into airsoft because of these but the cost just became too much I wouldn't mind but all I was doing was plinking with them.

    Great foooking fun though....


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  • Registered Users Posts: 3,269 ✭✭✭stigmau5


    Inari wrote: »
    GBBR's will eventually take over the market, as they become more viable a system...however I firmly believe that it is still approximately 5 years out. For now, it's AEG country...perhaps WE are subtly acknowledging this :P

    WA make excellent high-quality replicas for the Japanese market, focusing on realism (weight, attention to detail i.e. firing pin design on 1911's unlike marui's hex screw etc) - the GBBR M4 was a natural progression for them. Since they did the R&D, everyone else cloned the crap out of it, or just made upgrade parts.

    KJW/Tanio Koba figured he could do better, and did. The KJW GBBR is the only out-of-the-box skirmishable GBBR M4, but magazines are hard to come by. WE saw an opportunity, and brought out an affordable (but ultimately snuffed) GBBR M4, and then ported it over quickly into two other models; SCAR-L & PDW. They were slated for the brass tube system, so once again rushed out the "Open Bolt" - it performed much worse than the brass tube system, but it did improve upon the realism. This gave WE a firm grasp on the GBBR market for variety...but it was with their G36C that they gained notoriety - it's magazines were reliable, good performers & in general it was an impressive feat. They then made the same mistake, and tried to diversify too quickly, with their later models being a bit of a travesty...particularly their AK.

    With WE being exclusively GBB, they have seriously vested interests, and since they are notoriously sub-par without considerable investment - they rely solely on R&D in new models so that they can snap up as much custom as possible, with RATech picking up the slack. The move to AEG is very strange, nearly incomprehensible - they effectively own the GBBR market, yet are moving into AEG's....my head hurts :D

    +1 on that.

    If companies can manufacture an aeg though with a significant blowback as in on par with a GBBR, I think the GBBR world will stay as it is they defo wont dominate the airsoft world to the extent that aegs do now. That all does depend on such an aeg coming into the market. Fingers crossed....

    In warmer climates GBBR are at there best, unfortunately over here we suffer the consequences of "cool down". Yeah fine you can use CO2 but ideally you would want to get reinforcement parts to cope, yet more money invested, the magazine costs again a fortune for such low capacity magazine fine If you really really really love mil-sim but your going to want a lot of them and again a lot of money invested.

    If brands like WE or WA or any other GBBR manufacturers could make magazines (if they do, my apologies) that counter act cool down well to certain degree anyway, and have a capacity greater than 50+ rounds that would be great. Something like KSC's system 7, but when you see the cost of the magazines for the USP alone 50 bloody euro making a GBBR mag with a system 7ish setup would probably cost a fortune.

    I love GBBR's like I said I got into airsoft because of these but the cost just became too much I wouldn't mind but all I was doing was plinking with them.

    Great foooking fun though....
    As a owner of a lot of gbbrs the one that really impressed me out of the box was my G39 k ras it shoots on a cold evening around 60bbs to on refill and on a warm day 80 bbs the only thing I find it works better on semi full auto likes to eat gas more


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