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Nazi Stall in Balbriggan Market

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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,283 ✭✭✭PrivateEye


    interesting...

    getting sick of all these brave 'white warriors' popping up, pity he couldn't stick to Stormfront. If you go to any military fair, you'll see plenty of skinhead types who are a bit romantic over the aul' Third Reich. Generally big blokes with a tattoo or two (though one they can hide easy enough, can't have the white pride getting in the way of ther 9-5. Part time 'race warriors' that they are)
    "I am not a Nazi myself. This is just a way of putting food on the table."

    Pathetic.

    Interesting to know he'll be there next Sunday, I'm sure there are people who'd like to say hello to him next week.

    'Never Again,Never Forgive'


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 33,754 ✭✭✭✭Princess Consuela Bananahammock


    Sounds like Raurai's worried that we might be forgetting him.

    I don't think they can get the stallowner unless he;s inciting hatred, can they? Open to correction on this.

    Aslo think it's interesting that you're posting about nazi memorabilia with a pic of Fr Jack in the sig!! edit (or was that someoneelse in the show...?)

    Everything I don't like is either woke or fascist - possibly both - pick one.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,778 ✭✭✭✭Kold


    I don't think there's anything wrong with him selling it. I think it's irresponsible to draw so much attention to it.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 23,556 ✭✭✭✭Sir Digby Chicken Caesar


    should people not sell american or canadian flags because of the genocoide of the native americans?

    if someone wants to sell something, and someone else wants to buy it then I don't see the problem.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,283 ✭✭✭PrivateEye


    He's not selling military history. If you go to a half decent military show, it's not uncommon to see pieces from the Wehrmacht alongside stuff from the Red Army and any other mass-produced crowd in the same category of general WWII era interest. This guy ONLY sells items relating to fascism, which on it's own is a little odd. He's also selling ashtrays and other rubbish with swastikas on them and anti-semitic DVDs. There's a line between historic interest and the kind of Nazi **** you sometimes find at militaria shows and the sort.

    It's the normal 'I'm a big man' type crap from the fascists, and at the same time they haven't got the jaffas to even stand by their eh...'beliefs' Truly pathetic, you can be guranteed the people he's trading with are not military collectors either....PC Race Warriors more likely. Shouldn't be allowed a stall in public like that, who wants to see that out shopping?

    Anybody who thinks its ok to display fascist flags in public should go check out their local library, and go straight to the history section.


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  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 3,372 Mod ✭✭✭✭andrew


    Reminds me of this episode of father ted (the scene I'm thinking of is about 1:50 in) though it's all funny :D

    http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=462_1200628636


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,762 ✭✭✭turgon


    So who gets to be the one to decide what can and cannot be sold???

    If he wants to sell something whats the problem?? Because of some war 60 years ago that realistically never actually reached our shores? Im not a racist, but this jewish ass licking gets on my nerves, especcially considering that Stalin & Lenin killed 11 times as many innocent people as Hitler did.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,528 ✭✭✭✭dsmythy


    The Gardai are usually in attendence at that market. If it was illegal he wouldn't still be there. Most of the stuff he sells i'd have no issue with, things like helmets, firearms, swords etc. Although i wouldn't be so sure about items which puts groups of people across in a bad light.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 995 ✭✭✭Ass


    I'd love to get one of the German helmets. They look pretty bad ass. The swastica is a pretty cool looking thing as well. I really don't see the problem with selling memorabilia like this, what did the Nazi's ever do to anyone? First of all the Holocaust never happened and even if it did, I would have thought that getting rid of the Jews was a GOOD thing!









    This post may contain information that is not 100% accurate.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,283 ✭✭✭PrivateEye


    but this jewish ass licking gets on my nerves

    I would consider myself an anti-fascist.
    My family were in Fianna Fail in the 20s, and some engaged in anti-fascist activity in the 30s. Opposing a scumbag like the bloke selling his Nazi ashtrays is nothing to do with 'jewish ass licking', but a dislike for fascism showing it's face in society.

    Franco was a fascist who murdered thousands upon thousands of trade unionists and leftists. Hitler murdered thousands of handicapped people, social democrats and dissenters. More people suffered at the hands of fascism than the jews.

    I'm often highly critical of the actions of the Israeli state. It's not some 'zionist agenda' as the chimps on Stormfront seem to think, it's just people who are disguisted by fascist symbols being displayed in public, and fascist DVDs on sale at a feckin' market in 2008. There's no jewish 'ass licking' going on. I'm just opposed to symbols of hate being displayed in such shaddy circumstances. I've seen fascist medals in antique shops before, they're a part of history- this stall doesn't come across like the property of some historian or collector.

    Irish men died fighting fascism remember, in the Spanish Civil War and indeed in World War Two fighting for the allies in the British Army. The war might not have reached our shores, but enough of our men died on French shores during it.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,778 ✭✭✭✭Kold




    Zomg ban me. The way to deal with facists is to make a mockery of their ignorance, not to suppress them when they're not doing anything illegal.


  • Moderators, Education Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 35,125 Mod ✭✭✭✭AlmightyCushion


    Ass Face wrote: »
    I'd love to get one of the German helmets. They look pretty bad ass. The swastica is a pretty cool looking thing as well. I really don't see the problem with selling memorabilia like this, what did the Nazi's ever do to anyone? First of all the Holocaust never happened and even if it did, I would have thought that getting rid of the Jews was a GOOD thing!


    Ease up on the offensive crap.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 995 ✭✭✭Ass


    Ease up on the offensive crap.
    It's ok for me to joke about the holocaust. My Grandfather died in a concentration camp....















    ... poor bastard fell off a gaurd tower and broke his neck.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,283 ✭✭✭PrivateEye


    ... poor bastard fell off a gaurd tower and broke his neck.

    A rare LOL from me.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,778 ✭✭✭✭Kold


    I giggled too..


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 759 ✭✭✭gixerfixer


    FSS. You'd swear the stall was selling live hand grenades. Free country. If someone's dumb enough to buy that rubbish then why does anyone give a ****.Sick of the nanny state :mad:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 11,148 ✭✭✭✭KnifeWRENCH


    While this Nazi material is not illegal in Ireland....

    If what he's doing isn't illegal, then there's no reason his stall should be shut.
    It's a niche in the market - Stormfront members have to buy their status symbols somewhere. If you don't approve then don't go to that stall.
    Ass Face wrote: »
    It's ok for me to joke about the holocaust. My Grandfather died in a concentration camp....


    ... poor bastard fell off a gaurd tower and broke his neck.

    Have to admit that made me lol :pac:


  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 16,698 Mod ✭✭✭✭Silverfish


    Ass Face wrote: »
    It's ok for me to joke about the holocaust. My Grandfather died in a concentration camp....















    ... poor bastard fell off a gaurd tower and broke his neck.


    Sorry, that's just not funny. My grandfather died in a camp too.











    A guard fell on him.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,958 ✭✭✭✭RuggieBear


    godwin's law tbh


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 995 ✭✭✭Ass


    Silverfish wrote: »
    Sorry, that's just not funny. My grandfather died in a camp too.











    A guard fell on him.
    We should totally hook up.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,094 ✭✭✭✭javaboy


    PrivateEye wrote: »
    It's not some 'zionist agenda' as the chimps on Stormfront seem to think

    Again lay off the chimps man. Try using tse tse flies or some other hated useless creature to compare the SF crowd to. :D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,727 ✭✭✭✭Sherifu


    marcsignal wrote: »
    Eh... personally I think that is a bit of a nicht nicht :(


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,072 ✭✭✭marcsignal


    well like i said in the op, i don't have an issue with the uniforms or even the flags, I have some ww2 memorabilia myself, but the ashtrays are a bit much.

    I'm certainly not PC, far from it. I just think selling things that are clearly Anti Semetic is sinister, and I'm pretty sure there are laws against inciting racial hatred.

    Seriously, a Cariciture of a Jewish face, in an Ashtray ? Is it just me, are can anybody else make the connection here ?
    Stuff like that was common in nazi Germany and the seller claims they are original items. Extremely unlikely imo.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 517 ✭✭✭greatgoal


    marcsignal wrote: »
    Just found this on web

    There is a stall in this Balbriggan market selling Nazi Regalia ??

    http://www.tribune.ie/article/2008/aug/03/nazi-memorabilia-openly-on-sale-in-dublin-market/

    OK there are a lot of reenactors etc that can source uniforms and imitation firearms there etc, and I have no issue with that, but this bloke is selling ashtrays with faces of Jewish Caricatures in the base. Eh... personally I think that is a bit of a nicht nicht :(
    what,like the town comissioners have a stall.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,094 ✭✭✭✭javaboy


    marcsignal wrote: »
    Stuff like that was common in nazi Germany and the seller claims they are original items. Extremely unlikely imo.

    Right so. Get him shut down on false advertising/dodgy fake gear ;)

    You wouldn't steal a handbag. You wouldn't steal a car. You wouldn't steal an ashtray with Alan Alda's face at the bottom. Ashtray piracy is a crime.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 20,009 ✭✭✭✭Run_to_da_hills


    There was a shop on Dorset St selling Gestapo costumes, swastikas, and Nazi WW2 memorabilia for years and no one batted an eye to it. That market in Balbriggan is mad, went there a few years ago and there was about 10 stalls openly dealing in bootleg DVDS.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,290 ✭✭✭dresden8


    Who values the diversity of a racist tosser?

    Beside Germans from the 1930's get a racist rap thrown at them in all those Indiana Jones movies!

    I don't think ashtrays make people racist anyway.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9,496 ✭✭✭Mr. Presentable


    marcsignal wrote: »
    Stuff like that was common in nazi Germany and the seller claims they are original items. Extremely unlikely imo.

    Look, I have seen this stuff. It is mostly militaria, some political historiana and some less appropriate stuff which is still pertinent to a shameful part of Europe's history. However, they are not citing hatred, not promoting fascism, not forcing you to look or buy. The simple fact is that we are fascinated with this kind of thing from both a historical point of view and from sheer morbidity.

    Maybe the ashtrays are real, would that make them more acceptable to you?

    The sale of flags is not the promotion of fascism. It's selling flags.

    Surely the sale of guns etc should be more offensive than anything else. They are weapons.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 24,878 ✭✭✭✭arybvtcw0eolkf


    Ah lads, 'tis only the murder of 6 million Jews & 5 million gypsies, homosexuals, retards and a smattering of cross eye'd fvckers we're talking about here ffs :rolleyes:

    God forbid Sinn Fein had a stall glorifying selling ashtrys with the faces of murdered British & Irish men, women and children on 'em, that would give ya all something to whing about!.

    Tbh, and I'm coming as this as someone with strong Jewish connections. I could care less about an idiot selling this crap, but I'd care more about the attitude of the **** who'd feel the need to buy it.

    Oh, and I have a cat I named 'Kitler' too!.

    (really, I do!).


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,762 ✭✭✭turgon


    PrivateEye wrote: »
    I would consider myself an anti-fascist.
    And I would too.
    PrivateEye wrote: »
    Opposing a scumbag like the bloke selling his Nazi ashtrays is nothing to do with 'jewish ass licking', but a dislike for fascism showing it's face in society.

    Like I totally see where your coming from. But Im just saying where do you draw the line?? Do you forbid the selling of Soviet/Communist memorabilia given that Stalin killed a LOT more people than Hitler? Or should Chinese symbols be forbidden cause of the blatant abuse of human rights there? Who decides what ia appropriate/innapropriate.


    But anyway the fact of the matter is these wannabee-fascists purchasing such items are just down about life and dont feel good. So it is easy to just blame their troubles on the evil Jews and profess superiority. Instead of actually trying to solve their insecurities they declare themselves superior than others based on random details - the colour of their skin and place of birth. And you know what that makes them? Inferior.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 88,972 ✭✭✭✭mike65


    turgon wrote: »
    Like I totally see where your coming from..

    How long have valley girls had a view on Nazi trinkets? :pac:

    Mike


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,582 ✭✭✭✭kowloon


    I doubt anything original gets sold in Balbriggan market, be it a DVD or something at this fellows stall. No doubt there will be a bunch of misguided idiots protesting there next week and a few call ins on the Joe Duffy show to ban the swastika. Banning symbols, ideas or political parties never achieves anything positive.

    Awaits enevitable accusations :pac:.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,398 ✭✭✭Phototoxin


    PrivateEye wrote: »
    Franco was a fascist who murdered thousands upon thousands of trade unionists and leftists. Hitler murdered thousands of handicapped people, social democrats and dissenters. More people suffered at the hands of fascism than the jews..

    The UK kills about 95% of people with Down's Syndrome.

    Heil Brown !

    While this Nazi material is not illegal in Ireland, a spokesperson for the German embassy told the Sunday Tribune that according to German criminal law,

    Why do we give a flying facist about Germaniain law ? This is EIREAAAAAA!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,484 ✭✭✭✭Stephen


    If only images were enabled, this would be derailed into an awesome spartan photoshop thread :(


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,283 ✭✭✭PrivateEye


    The UK kills about 95% of people with Down's Syndrome.

    I must have missed that....
    Where exactly have they been doing that?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,582 ✭✭✭✭kowloon


    PrivateEye wrote: »
    I must have missed that....
    Where exactly have they been doing that?

    I believe it's an attempt to change the topic to abortion.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,283 ✭✭✭PrivateEye


    'The far right' and abortion?


    When did that happen :pac:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,145 ✭✭✭DonkeyStyle \o/


    Nice bit of free advertising for the guy anyway.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,582 ✭✭✭✭kowloon


    Nice bit of free advertising for the guy anyway.

    I'm sure the hassle he'll get will outweigh the benefits of the publicity.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9,894 ✭✭✭Chinafoot


    Other people complain about what happened to the Jews and the Holocaust but, you know, the Germans went through far worse after the war ended from the Russians. All their women were raped.

    Wow....


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,582 ✭✭✭✭kowloon


    Chinafoot wrote: »
    Wow....

    Where did that quote come from?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,985 ✭✭✭pvt.joker


    sign me up for 1 swastika please.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 12,807 ✭✭✭✭Orion


    The guy selling the stuff was quoted as saying that in the Tribune today.

    Anyway - let him sell it - what's the big deal. As regards German law - as another poster said - this ain't Germany. In Germany it's also illegal to deny the holocaust. I actually consider that a restriction on the freedom of expression. Not that I'm denying it but if I wanted to I should have that right as long as I am not inciting people to repeat it.

    To the people who think his sales should be banned should we ban the sale of Mein Kampf as well? It's available in Waterstones and on Amazon. Let's kick up a fuss about that too.

    If people want to buy this crap let them. Objects do not define a person. Buying or selling a nazi flag does not make you a nazi. It's your actions that define you.

    I'd be more concerned with the article on the same page in the Trib about the London Rose of Tralee contestant. Stormfront have been spouting their usual crap. I'm not concerned about Stormfront (they're just morons) - I'm am concerned with the Tribune actually giving those assholes column space. It was a quarter page article - could they really not have found some real news to fill up that page?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,582 ✭✭✭✭kowloon


    Cheers for that Macros42.
    I believe there were quite a few German civilians killed alright, quite a lot in the final campaigns and something like 2 million died after being thrown out of settlement after the war. The numbers aside it's comparing apples and oranges. And they did start it :pac:.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,449 ✭✭✭Call Me Jimmy


    I think it's more fascist to stop people from selling nazi ashtrays than it is to sell them.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,072 ✭✭✭marcsignal


    heh heh, i can't believe this was gonna be so volatile :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,582 ✭✭✭✭kowloon


    marcsignal wrote: »
    heh heh, i can't believe this was gonna be so volatile :)

    These are the times when I wish I could have a second account just to stir up trouble :D.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,985 ✭✭✭pvt.joker


    I for one would like to welcome out new Nazi overlords.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,072 ✭✭✭marcsignal


    I'm just back here after spending the last 11 months living down the street from the Dachau camp, and I just find it strange, because it seems the Nazis are more popular than ever here :D

    Dachau is a great place for a pint i might add, great Irish pub there too


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,985 ✭✭✭pvt.joker


    marcsignal wrote: »
    it seems the Nazis are more popular than ever here :D

    Nazis....................is there anything they can't do?


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