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Gee-22

Sounds like it could fit in with my rumour (post 340).
http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2056005889&page=23

Lucky23

Sounds to me that 50:50 will end but they will take a few more intakes based solely on merit from the current intake. Thats why it states 50:50 recruitment is ending and not recruitment is ending.

Thats my take on it anyway.

Never give up hope!

Gee-22

Lucky23 wrote: »

Sounds to me that 50:50 will end but they will take a few more intakes based solely on merit from the current intake. Thats why it states 50:50 recruitment is ending and not recruitment is ending.

Thats my take on it anyway.

Never give up hope!

That would suite me perfect, as im ready to rock :cool:

thebakerboy

Don't want to rain on the parade people, but was it not said that this list could not be used if 50:50 ended as it was part of the recruitment criteria? Surely anyone who was sent dear John's would have cause to complain if the list is now used in order and they are no longer on it? I understand that there is probably enough people below the dear John'd to fill the placements that maybe required. But fact is some people were above them that have now been recruited from this campaign.

Don't all jump on me, just playing devils advocate here.

weepete

U have a point baker boy but i'm 490-500 nrc wit no dear john if 220 places have gone to nrc's theres still at least 100 above me regardless of religion so if it goes on merit there should be enough to fill a few more intakes, but i guess time will tell

P.s if this is so then rc's with a lower merit score, who are currently still in, than the lowest one without a dear john letter should be getting a dear john letter themselves

thebakerboy

weepete wrote: »

U have a point baker boy but i'm 490-500 nrc wit no dear john if 220 places have gone to nrc's theres still at least 100 above me regardless of religion so if it goes on merit there should be enough to fill a few more intakes, but i guess time will tell

P.s if this is so then rc's with a lower merit score, who are currently still in, than the lowest one without a dear john letter should be getting a dear john letter themselves

Yeah certainly the same would apply to everyone outside of the required numbers, my reference to the dear John's was not for the future but people who already have them. I like everyone left is holding onto whatever hope is still flickering in the open window of hotel G'ville.

I wish you and everyone luck for the future and hopefully that will be with the PSNI.

M2010

I'm not sure if this is the correct place to post this, but for all those that are out of the running for recruitment from the current campaign and are prepared to consider Scottish police forces as an option, Central Scotland Police's next recruitment period will start on the 2nd May 2011, according to their website.

Just posted this for those that are interested, and have not heard about it.

http://www.centralscotland.police.uk/careers/index.php

M2010

M2010 wrote: »

I'm not sure if this is the correct place to post this, but for all those that are out of the running for recruitment from the current campaign and are prepared to consider Scottish police forces as an option, Central Scotland Police's next recruitment period will start on the 2nd May 2011, according to their website.

Just posted this for those that are interested, and have not heard about it.

http://www.centralscotland.police.uk/careers/index.php

I'm so in there My heart's set on the PSNI obviously but I'll go for anything I can at the minute, and with there being no recruitment here this year for definate now I'm definately putting in for it! Always had Strathclyde down as plan b but they don't look like they're going to be budging with their recruitment freeze any time soon.

Seems a bit strange that they are actually going to be recruiting though...

Goonerdee

Deleted User wrote: »

I'm so in there My heart's set on the PSNI obviously but I'll go for anything I can at the minute, and with there being no recruitment here this year for definate now I'm definately putting in for it! Always had Strathclyde down as plan b but they don't look like they're going to be budging with their recruitment freeze any time soon.

Seems a bit strange that they are actually going to be recruiting though...

My heart is set on the PSNI too plugin, but I had already noticed that on the CSP website. Scotland has vowed to protect police officer numbers and CSP recruited earlier this year so I am assuming they have used up their merit pool/panel/waiting list and are needing fresh applicants.

The Civil Nuclear Constabulary are recruiting also for the Sellafield plant. I read their website and the Wikipedia section on them and I was impressed. I have my application filled out and ready to send but was waiting for a reply from my email I sent them considering my battered financial past to see if there was any point clicking on send. The closing date isn't until 29th April, but I will hopefully will have already decided whether to proceed or gotten an answer by them.

Another reason I haven't clicked send already is because I am pretty sure they would contact my employer for a reference and, well, I would rather they didn't know, so that is a tough choice also.

Goonerdee

Goonerdee wrote: »

My heart is set on the PSNI too plugin, but I had already noticed that on the CSP website. Scotland has vowed to protect police officer numbers and CSP recruited earlier this year so I am assuming they have used up their merit pool/panel/waiting list and are needing fresh applicants.

The Civil Nuclear Constabulary are recruiting also for the Sellafield plant. I read their website and the Wikipedia section on them and I was impressed. I have my application filled out and ready to send but was waiting for a reply from my email I sent them considering my battered financial past to see if there was any point clicking on send. The closing date isn't until 29th April, but I will hopefully will have already decided whether to proceed or gotten an answer by them.

Another reason I haven't clicked send already is because I am pretty sure they would contact my employer for a reference and, well, I would rather they didn't know, so that is a tough choice also.

If only the PSNI would do the same :rolleyes: We need police officers, more than Scotland do...get with it PSNI I want just one more campaign!!
Suprising lack of information there though on the CSP site about their recruitment process and what not!

You're not the first person I've seen mention the CNC as a possibility, I briefly looked into them a brave while ago when someone mentioned it to me but never took much notice of it. I had never even heard of it before then and I'm still a bit confused as to what they are and what they actually do but if they keep cropping up they must be at least worth looking in to. Must have a proper look into them and see what it's all about.

Wondering actually can anybody clear this up for me?? I've just been having a look there at the CNC recruitment and it asks the same question all the forces seem to ask, "You can only apply to one force at a time. Do you currently have an application outstanding with another force? Or have you applied unsuccessfully to any force within the last 6 months?"
A fellow boardsie once told me that you're not actually recognised as having "applied" to the PSNI until you reach the merit pool stage, with all the previous bits of it being ran by Deloitte. Does this mean that the likes of me, I literally just got my merit number for it to be followed straight away by a dear john, would be ruled out because of it even though I merely dipped my toes in the pool so to speak?! If so that stupid little rule there really peeves me off!

Goonerdee

Deleted User wrote: »

If only the PSNI would do the same :rolleyes: We need police officers, more than Scotland do...get with it PSNI I want just one more campaign!!
Suprising lack of information there though on the CSP site about their recruitment process and what not!

You're not the first person I've seen mention the CNC as a possibility, I briefly looked into them a brave while ago when someone mentioned it to me but never took much notice of it. I had never even heard of it before then and I'm still a bit confused as to what they are and what they actually do but if they keep cropping up they must be at least worth looking in to. Must have a proper look into them and see what it's all about.

Wondering actually can anybody clear this up for me?? I've just been having a look there at the CNC recruitment and it asks the same question all the forces seem to ask, "You can only apply to one force at a time. Do you currently have an application outstanding with another force? Or have you applied unsuccessfully to any force within the last 6 months?"
A fellow boardsie once told me that you're not actually recognised as having "applied" to the PSNI until you reach the merit pool stage, with all the previous bits of it being ran by Deloitte. Does this mean that the likes of me, I literally just got my merit number for it to be followed straight away by a dear john, would be ruled out because of it even though I merely dipped my toes in the pool so to speak?! If so that stupid little rule there really peeves me off!

As far as I know, the CNC has full police powers in Nuclear installations and the areas surrounding it, and can be called upon to help the Local Territorial Force during major incidents, CNC from Sellafield helped look for Derek Bird during his killing spree.

When did you get your Dear John, I got mine in September, plus the application form asks for your application date, not the Dear John date, and I applied in January 2010.

Also, did you notice that the CNC states you can use a A/C score from another force instead of having to go through the procedure again, problem is, it was Deloitte that carried out the A/C exam so I don't know if mine could count.

Goonerdee

Goonerdee wrote: »

As far as I know, the CNC has full police powers in Nuclear installations and the areas surrounding it, and can be called upon to help the Local Territorial Force during major incidents, CNC from Sellafield helped look for Derek Bird during his killing spree.

When did you get your Dear John, I got mine in September, plus the application form asks for your application date, not the Dear John date, and I applied in January 2010.

Also, did you notice that the CNC states you can use a A/C score from another force instead of having to go through the procedure again, problem is, it was Deloitte that carried out the A/C exam so I don't know if mine could count.

Right enough mine was Sept also so even that would be fine then. Haven't got far enough into the application to see that bit, I got to the first page, seen the sheer size of the rest of it and thought "nope...this is a job for another night" That's quite a beast of an application form compared to the unbelievably overly simple PSNI one!

Yeah I noticed the AC thing, I'm imagining you couldn't do so with ours given it's done by Deloitte and not an actual police service, but I think even if you could carry over the score from our AC I would probably go for doing a new one anyways, I wasn't pleased at all with my score and I know I could do better. Plus I quite enjoyed it and would love to see how others differ!

The more I'm reading into it now the more I'm liking it. It's an interesting little set up, it's still being a police officer, but a little bit different. And there seems to be quite a lot of emphasis on opportunities to progress into specialist areas after your 2yr probabtion period, which I like the sound of. I think I'd rather apply for it than the CSP now... you may have just added one more to your competition buddy if you do actually go for it after all!

Goonerdee

Deleted User wrote: »

Right enough mine was Sept also so even that would be fine then. Haven't got far enough into the application to see that bit, I got to the first page, seen the sheer size of the rest of it and thought "nope...this is a job for another night" That's quite a beast of an application form compared to the unbelievably overly simple PSNI one!

Yeah I noticed the AC thing, I'm imagining you couldn't do so with ours given it's done by Deloitte and not an actual police service, but I think even if you could carry over the score from our AC I would probably go for doing a new one anyways, I wasn't pleased at all with my score and I know I could do better. Plus I quite enjoyed it and would love to see how others differ!

The more I'm reading into it now the more I'm liking it. It's an interesting little set up, it's still being a police officer, but a little bit different. And there seems to be quite a lot of emphasis on opportunities to progress into specialist areas after your 2yr probabtion period, which I like the sound of. I think I'd rather apply for it than the CSP now... you may have just added one more to your competition buddy if you do actually go for it after all!

Yeah, I decided, right I'll just fill this in and head to work, I had to leave it. Took me two days to fill in. At least vetting is sorted before the tests. No once I read the sight I thought mmm, nice little set up. Must be one of the youngest police forces in the UK, even younger than the PSNI.

Yes, they said they didn't have a HPDS but that there were many specialist roles you could move onto.

Hey, if I do go for it and so do you, it would be pretty cool to think there was a possibility of getting to work with a fellow boardie.:D

I think the CNC is now on my list of police forces/services I would consider joining. The others are PSNI, AGS, Dumfries and Galloway, Stratchclyde and Cumbrian ( ironically where CNC Sellafield is also based).

Dietcoke1

The CNC website makes the job look real interesting but stop and think about what they actually do.

They are in reality armed security for the nuclear plants, providing 24/7 security. Your day would be spent in posts, checking vistor passes at gates and conducting patrols of the surrounding area.

If you want to sit on your ass all day go for it, but if you want to be a Police Officer and do real police work stay well clear from this.

Goonerdee

Dietcoke1 wrote: »

The CNC website makes the job look real interesting but stop and think about what they actually do.

They are in reality armed security for the nuclear plants, providing 24/7 security. Your day would be spent in posts, checking vistor passes at gates and conducting patrols of the surrounding area.

If you want to sit on your ass all day go for it, but if you want to be a Police Officer and do real police work stay well clear from this.

It depends I think what site you are stationed to. According to Wikipedia some of the sites is to do with being an armed guard, others is a more standard policing role. Sellafield falls under the normal policing role. Police officers in the CNC operate 5km outside of nuclear installations, which I'm sure means they come into contact with civilians.

As for the real police work jibe, I am sure I have seen police officers in the PSNI escorting vehicles, standing guard and checking ID's.

Dietcoke1

Goonerdee wrote: »

It depends I think what site you are stationed to. According to Wikipedia some of the sites is to do with being an armed guard, others is a more standard policing role. Sellafield falls under the normal policing role. Police officers in the CNC operate 5km outside of nuclear installations, which I'm sure means they come into contact with civilians.

As for the real police work jibe, I am sure I have seen police officers in the PSNI escorting vehicles, standing guard and checking ID's.

Yes I am sure you have seen Police Officers doing the above, but its not what they do every single day there is alot more to the job than that!

The CNC do operate 5km outside of the nuclear installations but I would imagine this would be on mobile security patrols and the contact with the civilans you mention would be checking details of suspicious vehicles in the area etc.

The local police in the surrounding areas would deal with all Police matters.

CNC would be a great job for ex services or ex police and apprently does attract a large number of ex police with their time done.

Goonerdee

Dietcoke1 wrote: »

Yes I am sure you have seen Police Officers doing the above, but its not what they do every single day there is alot more to the job than that!

The CNC do operate 5km outside of the nuclear installations but I would imagine this would be on mobile security patrols and the contact with the civilans you mention would be checking details of suspicious vehicles in the area etc.

The local police in the surrounding areas would deal with all Police matters.

CNC would be a great job for ex services or ex police and apprently does attract a large number of ex police with their time done.

Well, there is some truth in what you say, I was a little peeved at the sitting on their ass remark. I want to be a police officer, and I have no intention sitting on my ass if I am lucky to become a cop. However the PSNI has practically shut it's recruitment down, as well as 95% of all police forces on these two islands.

If I am lucky to be a cop who patrols an installation and the area around it, rather than patroling a housing estate then so be it and would not like being referred to as not being a cop who does 'real' cop work! :mad:

Goonerdee

Goonerdee wrote: »

Well, there is some truth in what you say, I was a little peeved at the sitting on their ass remark. I want to be a police officer, and I have no intention sitting on my ass if I am lucky to become a cop. However the PSNI has practically shut it's recruitment down, as well as 95% of all police forces on these two islands.

If I am lucky to be a cop who patrols an installation and the area around it, rather than patroling a housing estate then so be it and would not like being referred to as not being a cop who does 'real' cop work! :mad:

Precisely, becoming a police officer is probably harder now than it has ever been before, and I can't imagine it's going to get much easier any time soon. Whilst the CSP having an upcoming campaign may be a little glimmer of hope in respect to the future of police recruitment all over, it's a small flicker in the grand ol' scheme of things. With the PSNI definately not recruiting this year, I'm 100% on for looking else where, and with there being so little going on these days with regards police recruitment anywhere, I imagine competition will be incredibly fierce for the CSP when they do start their campaign.

Sure the CNC may very well not be the varied action packed police officer role we're all acustomed to, but it's a police officer role nonetheless with police officer training...and I'll take that in any form that's offered to me. If/when the PSNI start running campaigns again, I'm going to be in there for it regardless of wether I manage to get myself in somewhere else in the meantime. If the PSNI starts recruiting again in the future and it's not under 50/50, then that could possibly mean the ability to transfer from another force is available again, and if I have been successful elsewhere then score! If that's still not an option, then I'll be applying just as normal anyways. PSNI is where my heart lies, it's the end goal for me, but I'm going to take whatever route is available for me to get there.

At the end of the day, I would be 100 times happier patrolling a site and it's surrounding area everyday with the word "police" proudly written on my chest than still being in my current job or one related to it in a year from now. It would be fair to say that any job I do, including getting into another police service, will just be a stepping stone for me until I get myself into the PSNI someday...someday :rolleyes:

Goonerdee

Exactly plugin, I want to be wearing the green, but until then, I will take any role that gives me the insight of a police officer's lifestyle and career, and that might involve wearing blue or black instead of green.

Plus being a police officer elsewhere could help sweeten the application process of any future campaign with the PSNI.

Dietcoke1

Some fair points there lads, if I was hoping to join a police force I may think of applying also.

But if there is a chance that the CSP will be recuriting I would definitely hold off for that. Not sure if you can apply for both???

Dietcoke1

Dietcoke1 wrote: »

Some fair points there lads, if I was hoping to join a police force I may think of applying also.

But if there is a chance that the CSP will be recuriting I would definitely hold off for that. Not sure if you can apply for both???

... + lassies

Pretty certain you can only apply for one at the time, then after that every one I've ever looked into has that daft one year rule where if you've been unsuccessful for one you've got to wait a full year to apply for an other... stupidest rule I've ever seen :rolleyes:
I'm just thinking of the chances of being successful for both. I've no idea what the stats are like for either the CSP or CNC, but I'd hazard a guess that you've got a better chance at being successful wtih the CNC than the CSP.

Goonerdee

Dietcoke1 wrote: »

Some fair points there lads, if I was hoping to join a police force I may think of applying also.

But if there is a chance that the CSP will be recuriting I would definitely hold off for that. Not sure if you can apply for both???

OK, just had another look at the CSP website. Last time I checked they were possibly recruiting in May, now it looks more definate.

It is a tough decision.

Do I hold off applying for a force that is recruiting in the hope that another keeps it's promise to do so?

Goonerdee

lassie, plugin? That makes two lassies!

Goonerdee

Ooops, forgot to add, CSP and CNC have the same amount of officers, approximately 900 each. Though I think competition will be more intense for CSP as it borders Strathclyde and their recruitment freeze might send potential Stathclyde wannabes over the force/service borders.

Goonerdee

Goonerdee wrote: »

lassie, plugin? That makes two lassies!

I will admit I automatically had you down for being a bloke aswell, I love that everybody here is presumed to be male, I even do it despite being female myself

Also, with the CNC being more unheard of (aleast I had never heard of it till someone told me to have a look at it!) you'd imagine they would naturally have less people applying, but then the number of positions they're recruiting for could be less also?

Goonerdee

Deleted User wrote: »

I will admit I automatically had you down for being a bloke aswell, I love that everybody here is presumed to be male, I even do it despite being female myself

Also, with the CNC being more unheard of (aleast I had never heard of it till someone told me to have a look at it!) you'd imagine they would naturally have less people applying, but then the number of positions they're recruiting for could be less also?

The CSP during it's last recruiting campaign earlier this year had only 35 places to fill I think. Probably be the same again.

CNC probably runs along the same lines, recruit enough to cover those retiring/leaving.

c1964

I remember a great man once say" Police work is 99% boredom and 1% terror and it's true. So wheteher you are stuck on a static post or clocking keys, you have a job to do, so do it well!

Shield

I'm not so sure I'd want to be working within a 5 mile radius of a nuclear facility. You'd finish your career with a healthy green glow...

Delancey

psni wrote: »

I'm not so sure I'd want to be working within a 5 mile radius of a nuclear facility. You'd finish your career with a healthy green glow...

Yeah , plus your favourite body parts shrivel up and die

Delancey

Delancey wrote: »

Yeah , plus your favourite body parts shrivel up and die

Nothing for us lassies to worry about then