N22 - Macroom to Ballyvourney (Macroom Bypass) [open to traffic]

tipperary

Water John wrote: »

Macroom having a Minister at the Cabinet Table.
Doesn't seem to carry any weight.

Isn't the Michael Creed (Minister for agriculture) from Macroom? Nevertheless the lack of infrastructure investment in the Cork area during Fine Gael's tenure is shocking, particularly with a senior member of Government (Simon Coveney) from the area. Its all well and good getting away from the parish pump politics, but when everyone else is at it, it just means that Cork falls down the pecking order for major infrastructure investment.

cgcsb

tipperary wrote: »

Isn't the Michael Creed (Minister for agriculture) from Macroom? Nevertheless the lack of infrastructure investment in the Cork area during Fine Gael's tenure is shocking, particularly with a senior member of Government (Simon Coveney) from the area. Its all well and good getting away from the parish pump politics, but when everyone else is at it, it just means that Cork falls down the pecking order for major infrastructure investment.

The rest of the country hasn't seen large infrastructural investment either, Perhaps with the exception of luas BXD. Does that count as 'large'?

sonnyblack

tipperary wrote: »

Isn't the Michael Creed (Minister for agriculture) from Macroom? Nevertheless the lack of infrastructure investment in the Cork area during Fine Gael's tenure is shocking, particularly with a senior member of Government (Simon Coveney) from the area. Its all well and good getting away from the parish pump politics, but when everyone else is at it, it just means that Cork falls down the pecking order for major infrastructure investment.

And in the meantime Enda and Michael Ring continue to get the N5 improved by stealth while ignoring critical required bypasses such as this one.

marno21

http://www.eveningecho.ie/cork-news/anger-grows-delays-road-plans/2493996/

MayoSalmon

sonnyblack wrote:

And in the meantime Enda and Michael Ring continue to get the N5 improved by stealth while ignoring critical required bypasses such as this one.

And fair play to them

Water John

What will u do when EK is no more?
Sadly, that's the roundabout of Irish politics.

MayoSalmon

Well I will be thankful that I am not stuck in Longford or that hole that is ballaghaderreen on my monthly drive to Westport. If I see an M4 extended from Mullingar to Longford in my lifetime then I will truly die a happy man

marno21

MOD:

There's a thread for the N5 Ballaghaderren - Scramoge scheme here: http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2057438790. The merits of it can be debated there. And any discussion of the Longford-Mullingar section of the N4 should be kept to the various N4 threads.

This thread is for the N22, specifically around Macroom and Baile Bhurine

marno21

http://www.irishexaminer.com/ireland/kerry-without-clout-amid-bypass-ballyvourney-impasse-411046.html

Good to see this (and other projects) making the news at least weekly at present. Long may it continue until they are built.

Water John

Another piece in The Examiner has Cllr Michael Creed worried about underpasses for farmers on the road.
He need not worry for a while, even with his cousin as Minister, it seems.

marno21

Aindrias Moynihan & Brendan Griffin got this brought up during the topical issues slot in the Dail today, where after the usual guff about no money for roads in Cork yet plenty of money for roads in Wexford, Shane Ross confirmed that the scheme will begin construction in 2020.

Not good enough.

41 fatalities in the last 26 years is also obscene and should move this up the priority scales. There has been no realignments or widening along this route since 1990.

https://www.kildarestreet.com/debates/?id=2016-07-20a.427

marno21

The five Kerry TDs (Healy-Rae x2, Brassil, Griffin & Ferris) were on Radio Kerry this morning discussing this Dail term to date, and on bringing up the Macroom bypass, Brendan Griffin said the planned 2020 start was not good enough and he would be following it up with Shane Ross after he meets the TII. He also said he would be working with other TDs in neighbouring constituencies, evidenced by his topical issue debate with Andrias Moynihan here (also posted in the previous post: https://www.kildarestreet.com/debates/?id=2016-07-20a.427)

marno21

http://www.irishexaminer.com/ireland/united-front-for-new-cork-to-kerry-road-412380.html

Article in the examiner today about a combined effort between Kerry & Cork County Councils to progress the scheme.

marno21

It's about that time.. the holidays are coming to an end:

http://www.irishexaminer.com/ireland/michael-creed-in-talks-over-delayed-160m-ballyvourney-to-macroom-bypass-417393.html

marno21

PIN gone out for tender for archaeological services on the route: https://irl.eu-supply.com/app/rfq/publicpurchase_frameset.asp?PID=102741&B=ETENDERS_SIMPLE&PS=1&PP=ctm/Supplier/publictenders

Says an event will take place at the RDO on October 10th regarding it.

Water John

That would be a busy contract. Lots of archaeology. That area of Cork along with County Meath.

marno21

Now that everyone's back and everyone's favourite roads are jammed again, it's no surprise these are still a major issue in the local media.

http://www.eveningecho.ie/cork-news/ibec-calls-major-cork-road-projects-get-underway/2526413/

marno21

Confirmed by Dominic Mullaney of TII during last week's Select Committee on Transport that this scheme will commence Q1 2020

https://www.kildarestreet.com/committees/?id=2016-09-21a.1215

lottpaul

Thanks for the info -- and the link -- but they do go on and on an awful lot in Oireachtas committees!! Each one looking for a slice of the pie for their own pet project. Seems we'll be bothering the good folk of Baile Bhúirne and Macroom for years to come - a 2020 start would see a finish in? 2023-ish? or am I being too optimistic?
(the little comment about it being brought forward if additional funding became available is unlikely to come to pass I'd presume)

marno21

lottpaul wrote: »

Thanks for the info -- and the link -- but they do go on and on an awful lot in Oireachtas committees!! Each one looking for a slice of the pie for their own pet project. Seems we'll be bothering the good folk of Baile Bhúirne and Macroom for years to come - a 2020 start would see a finish in? 2023-ish? or am I being too optimistic?
(the little comment about it being brought forward if additional funding became available is unlikely to come to pass I'd presume)

Q1 2020 start should mean a 2022 finish barring any serious issues

marno21

http://www.radiokerry.ie/news/omission-of-funding-for-macroom-bypass-in-budget-criticised/

http://thecork.ie/2016/10/12/government-does-not-care-about-macroom-bypass-n22-on-main-cork-kerry-road-says-td-aindrias-moynihan/

Government doesn't just not care about Macroom, it's Cork in general.

marno21

http://www.southernstar.ie/news/roundup/articles/2016/10/18/4128480-ministers-snub-over-n22-angers-councillors/

Water John

I suppose why would a fella turn up to get a bollicking?
I suppose if there was an ind TD in NW it would be diff.

marno21

Tender gone out for Geophysical Survey along the route. Only 2 weeks to respond so won't delay too much.

https://irl.eu-supply.com/app/rfq/rwlentrance_s.asp?PID=104551&PP=ctm/Supplier/publictenders&B=ETENDERS_SIMPLE&PS=1

marno21

Detailed ground investigation tender gone out: https://irl.eu-supply.com/app/rfq/publicpurchase.asp?PID=104505

marno21

Tender gone out today for Civil Works (fencing & farm access provision) along the route

https://irl.eu-supply.com/app/rfq/publicpurchase.asp?PID=104790

marno21

marno21 wrote: »

Tender gone out today for Civil Works (fencing & farm access provision) along the route

https://irl.eu-supply.com/app/rfq/publicpurchase.asp?PID=104790

Corkman write up of this with Michael Creed trumpet blowing.

Hopefully TII throw a big wad of cash at this when the allocations for 2017 next month.

http://www.independent.ie/regionals/corkman/news/tenders-issued-for-works-on-n22-bypass-scheme-35202909.html

louism

many people of macroom have resigned themselves that it will probably be kerry(they know how to do tourism) if at all who will make this bypass happen, after years of living with lorries and trucks passing through the town, noise and air pollution, the people who walk the streets have become disillusioned to the normality of living on the side of a motorway, where do the people of macroom come into the equation? no benches added or trees planted or pedestrian zones in years , the roads were never made for this kind of traffic, it takes from the town and the Tuesday market is lost in a haze of parking spaces in a supposed square outside a townhall built by the people but serving as offices for some municipal council where there is a lack of local connection, the old bridge when they 'did it up' resembles a fly over bridge, besides all the societal and heritage reasons, I'm surprised health and safety haven't put a stop to this madness. The time has come to start planning for the time when we do have a bypass and we put the people who reside in macroom town back to the forefront. Awaiting news of bypass since the late 90s..

marno21

louism wrote: »

many people of macroom have resigned themselves that it will probably be kerry(they know how to do tourism) if at all who will make this bypass happen, after years of living with lorries and trucks passing through the town, noise and air pollution, the people who walk the streets have become disillusioned to the normality of living on the side of a motorway, where do the people of macroom come into the equation? no benches added or trees planted or pedestrian zones in years , the roads were never made for this kind of traffic, it takes from the town and the Tuesday market is lost in a haze of parking spaces in a supposed square outside a townhall built by the people but serving as offices for some municipal council where there is a lack of local connection, the old bridge when they 'did it up' resembles a fly over bridge, besides all the societal and heritage reasons, I'm surprised health and safety haven't put a stop to this madness. The time has come to start planning for the time when we do have a bypass and we put the people who reside in macroom town back to the forefront. Awaiting news of bypass since the late 90s..

As someone who both goes to Cork via Macroom and has also gone to Macroom for various reasons, it's incredibly important that this bypass be built soon. The town itself is too narrow, and especially the bridge over the River Sullane. Hopefully a 2019 start is on the cards, which is looking likely.

Creed will be a failed politician if this isn't done. So important for his town and for his constituency as a whole

irishshadowfax

http://www.radiokerry.ie/news/kerry-td-says-preparatory-works-on-n22-macroom-bypass-to-begin-next-year/