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Canadian Seal Hunters Killed

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    #92
    NoNameRanger
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    NPWS are announcing a cull on Grey seals all round the Irish coast for the month of July 08. €20 for every seal ear posted to the customs house before the 10th of August 08. It is not permitted to shoot the seals with Rifle or shotgun. Stunnguns only are permitted and the seal must be finished off with the traditional seal club. Hurleys and baseball bats are prohibited. Permits available at all post offices from July 1st. All carcases must be delivered to designated collection centers shown on permits.


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    #93
    AckwelFoley
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    Thats horrible

    But necessary.


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    #94
    NoNameRanger
    Closed Accounts Posts: 273 ✭✭NoNameRanger


    True!


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    #95
    Lauragoesmad
    Closed Accounts Posts: 842 ✭✭✭Lauragoesmad


    NoNameRanger wrote: »
    Feck ya, i knew the likes of you would see through it. I was hoping to catch the seal egg guy again:)

    Yeah, that guy should have his own show.


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    #96
    kerrysgold
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    NoNameRanger wrote: »
    NPWS are announcing a cull on Grey seals all round the Irish coast for the month of July 08. €20 for every seal ear posted to the customs house before the 10th of August 08. It is not permitted to shoot the seals with Rifle or shotgun. Stunnguns only are permitted and the seal must be finished off with the traditional seal club. Hurleys and baseball bats are prohibited. Permits available at all post offices from July 1st. All carcases must be delivered to designated collection centers shown on permits.

    where did you hear about that? can't find anything on their website. anyone know if this happened last year?! :mad: I thought grey seals were supposed to be protected.....?


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    #97
    peasant
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    kerrysgold wrote: »
    where did you hear about that? can't find anything on their website. anyone know if this happened last year?! :mad: I thought grey seals were supposed to be protected.....?

    and they're leaving the door open for fraud as well. Kill one seal, send in the ears at different times and collect 2x 20€


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    #98
    Lauragoesmad
    Closed Accounts Posts: 842 ✭✭✭Lauragoesmad


    NoNameRanger wrote: »
    NPWS are announcing a cull on Grey seals all round the Irish coast for the month of July 08. €20 for every seal ear posted to the customs house before the 10th of August 08. It is not permitted to shoot the seals with Rifle or shotgun. Stunnguns only are permitted and the seal must be finished off with the traditional seal club. Hurleys and baseball bats are prohibited. Permits available at all post offices from July 1st. All carcases must be delivered to designated collection centers shown on permits.

    Check the date, Folks!!:D You might just feel like a fool!;)


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    #99
    NoNameRanger
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    Ah Laura come on:D Just cos they've made you a moderator no need to go mad.:D;)


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    #100
    Sherifu
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    Lauragoesmad wrote: »
    Check the date, Folks!!:D You might just feel like a fool!;)
    No clubbing? :(


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    #101
    Lauragoesmad
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    NoNameRanger wrote: »
    Ah Laura come on:D Just cos they've made you a moderator no need to go mad.:D;)

    But I'm cringing looking at peoples posts!! Its like watching The Office!!


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    #102
    Trojan911
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    kerrysgold wrote: »
    where did you hear about that? can't find anything on their website. anyone know if this happened last year?! :mad: I thought grey seals were supposed to be protected.....?

    :D:D:D:D


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    #103
    togster
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    kerrysgold wrote: »
    where did you hear about that? can't find anything on their website. anyone know if this happened last year?! :mad: I thought grey seals were supposed to be protected.....?

    LOL :rolleyes:


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    #104
    It wasn't me!
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    I approve entirely. :)


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    #105
    Lorrs33
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    I just want to defend PETA here. They go to extremes to get their point across, I've just been sent a horrifying video of black bears in Canada being lured to food so they can be shot and killed for their fur in order to make those ridiculous looking pieces of crap that sit on top of the Queens' Guards' heads! And all the while the hunters are laughing and enjoying torturing those poor defenceless animals.

    And with regards to the seals, no I don't wish death upon five men, but at the same time, I don't wish death upon the seals. No one mourns them when they are beaten and killed, without any hope of defending themselves.

    This thread was begun in order to report the death of seal hunters, but will those who are so eager to beat down those who feel happy for the seals just look at the bigger picture here? I've been sent so many emails about those seals and it's heartbreaking to think that such a thing could be done, whether it's for survival or not.


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    #106
    kerrysgold
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    I agree that PETA can be a bit crazy at times, but their basics are correct, that animals aren't here for our use/entertainment etc. although I'm not going to give up having my pets because a) I'm sure they don't mind being loved and pampered and not having to fend for themselves and b) if they were to be "released" they'd last about 5 seconds!

    These poor little seals have even less chance of defending themselves, at least other animals that are hunted have a chance of getting away, but these little things are basically defenceless, pretty much immobile little blobs! I wouldn't even call it hunting since it is completely unfair.


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    #107
    Lauragoesmad
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    kerrysgold wrote: »
    I agree that PETA can be a bit crazy at times, but their basics are correct, that animals aren't here for our use/entertainment etc. although I'm not going to give up having my pets because a) I'm sure they don't mind being loved and pampered and not having to fend for themselves and b) if they were to be "released" they'd last about 5 seconds!

    These poor little seals have even less chance of defending themselves, at least other animals that are hunted have a chance of getting away, but these little things are basically defenceless, pretty much immobile little blobs! I wouldn't even call it hunting since it is completely unfair.

    Like shootin fish in a barrel!!


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    #108
    Whispered
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    Lorrs33 wrote: »
    And with regards to the seals, no I don't wish death upon five men, but at the same time, I don't wish death upon the seals. No one mourns them when they are beaten and killed, without any hope of defending themselves.
    How can you say that? You know people mourn them?? Hence all the uproar over the hunt?
    Lorrs33 wrote: »
    I
    This thread was begun in order to report the death of seal hunters, but will those who are so eager to beat down those who feel happy for the seals just look at the bigger picture here?
    Look at the bigger pic? Do you think the people who came on here and said such things as "I hope they died a slow cold death" and spouted on about karma were looking at the bigger pic? Do you think they were right? Or, like me, do you feel that people who say things like that just give people who are genuinely involved in animal welfare a bad name. Surely, no matter what, we shouldn't celebrate the death of another being, be they human or animal?


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    #109
    Whispered
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    kerrysgold wrote: »
    I agree that PETA can be a bit crazy at times, but their basics are correct, that animals aren't here for our use/entertainment etc. although I'm not going to give up having my pets because a) I'm sure they don't mind being loved and pampered and not having to fend for themselves and b) if they were to be "released" they'd last about 5 seconds!

    These poor little seals have even less chance of defending themselves, at least other animals that are hunted have a chance of getting away, but these little things are basically defenceless, pretty much immobile little blobs! I wouldn't even call it hunting since it is completely unfair.
    Compltly agree however I do think it's unfair on parents with young kids the way thy get their message across sometimes. I remember many times walking away from that building on the corner of o'connell bridge crying, at about 6 or 7 years of age. I don't think thats right.


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    #110
    Sherifu
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    Peta - We love animals.


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    #111
    Lorrs33
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    helena.ryan wrote: »
    How can you say that? You know people mourn them?? Hence all the uproar over the hunt?

    Look at the bigger pic? Do you think the people who came on here and said such things as "I hope they died a slow cold death" and spouted on about karma were looking at the bigger pic? Do you think they were right? Or, like me, do you feel that people who say things like that just give people who are genuinely involved in animal welfare a bad name. Surely, no matter what, we shouldn't celebrate the death of another being, be they human or animal?

    Eh, if you actually read my post, you'd see that I didn't justify anybody celebrating the death of human beings. I just want people to be aware of what's happening and stop picking at those who are defending animals.


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    #112
    peasant
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    on PETA:
    Policy on euthanasia
    PETA is against the no kill movement and euthanizes the majority of animals that are given to them.[73][74] It recommends euthanasia for certain breeds of animals, such as pit bull terriers,[75] and in certain situations for unwanted animals in shelters: for example, for those living for long periods in cramped cages.[76][77] Ingrid Newkirk has said: "Our service is to provide a peaceful and painless death to animals who no one wants."[78] PETA recommends the use of an intravenous injection of sodium pentobarbital provided it is administered by a trained professional.[77]

    source:
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PETA

    and just in case you didn't read the quote properly, I'll highlight one bit again:

    It recommends euthanasia for certain breeds of animals, such as pit bull terriers

    Sanctimonious, double standarded, publicity hungry BASTARDS ..that's what they are.


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    #113
    Whispered
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    I know you didn't say that - but you did say
    but will those who are so eager to beat down those who feel happy for the seals just look at the bigger picture here?
    feel happy for the seals? I'm sorry but people saying they are happy those men died are wrong. Now I know you didn't say it, but you are trying to defend the people who did.


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    #114
    Lauragoesmad
    Closed Accounts Posts: 842 ✭✭✭Lauragoesmad


    peasant wrote: »
    on PETA:



    source:
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PETA

    and just in case you didn't read the quote properly, I'll highlight one bit again:

    It recommends euthanasia for certain breeds of animals, such as pit bull terriers

    Sanctimonious, double standarded, publicity hungry BASTARDS ..that's what they are.

    The majority of the work they do is good and no one here on this site will ever do more for animals then peta do so I think pointing out the few bad things (IMO) that they do is a bit petty. In the long run they save a lot of animals and I would love to know the reasoning behind why they support this. Although I would never support the killing of a healthy dog unless they were too vicious to be re-homed or disturbed from abuse.


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    #115
    Whispered
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    Lauragoesmad wrote: »
    The majority of the work they do is good and no one here on this site will ever do more for animals then peta do so I think pointing out the few bad things (IMO) that they do is a bit petty.
    Peta are a huge organisation. TBH laura I think you should research some of the people who frequent this forum. There are at least two I can think of off the top of my head who single handedly do amazing work for animals. Of course they wont do more then peta, but then again, they are singular people. People who really care don't need scare tactics to motivate them.


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    #116
    Run_to_da_hills
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    helena.ryan wrote: »
    I know, makes no sense at all. Seal eggs are such a delicacy, they could make a fortune!!!
    I wonder if this guy have any seals eggs in his collection. :)http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/england/lincolnshire/7324397.stm


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    #117
    NoNameRanger
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    I must say i love the 1st of April. I had such a laugh today, thanks to all that participated, especially Kerrysgold:D.


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    #118
    Lauragoesmad
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    helena.ryan wrote: »
    Peta are a huge organisation. TBH laura I think you should research some of the people who frequent this forum. There are at least two I can think of off the top of my head who single handedly do amazing work for animals. Of course they wont do more then peta, but then again, they are singular people. People who really care don't need scare tactics to motivate them.

    Of course there are lots of people on this site who do lots of brilliant an really good work for animals. I didn't say that they didn't. I would just like to know the reasoning behind why PETA believe this about pitbulls before I make my final opinion on this particular subject. Is that not a fair statement?


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    #119
    peasant
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    Laura

    it's not just Pitbulls
    During the years 2004 and 2005, PETA took in 20258 animals, of which 15438 were reclaimed by their owner. 4224 were euthanized, while 507 were adopted.

    and then, on the other hand:
    Revenue $25 million in 2005

    Something's not quite right there !


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    #120
    Lauragoesmad
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    peasant wrote: »
    Laura

    it's not just Pitbulls

    But what is the reason they give for putting these animals to sleep? I'm sure if they could prevent it, they would.


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    #121
    peasant
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    Lauragoesmad wrote: »
    But what is the reason they give for putting these animals to sleep? I'm sure if they could prevent it, they would.

    No ...read my first quote again
    PETA is against the no kill movement


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