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Canadian Seal Hunters Killed
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I think petas information should be shared, but in an appropiate way. Some of the things they show are too disturbing to be released to the general public, never mind plastered all over the place. If some of the things they show on busy streets, there for kids and all to see, were shown on TV without a graphic warning, there would be uproar, and rightly so. Organisations like ANVIL who are looking for legal rights for animals do a better job in my opinion.Lauragoesmad wrote: »Whats wrong with peta? I think they do great work and although they might use shock tactics, what charities don't? Trocaire have the swolen bellied starving children on their ads with the sad music, telling you how brilliant it will feel to give 7 euros a week to help feed a starving child.
Peta inform people about the plight of animals all over the world and even though some of their articles and undercover videos are graphic and disturbing, they are just showing people what happens.
what has been said here by some posters is not simply a lack of compassion, it is an all out gloating about the death of people. Gloating - I am glad they are dead - that not lack of compassion.Lauragoesmad wrote: »Some people are for people, some people are for animals some people are for both. Just because some people love animals it doesn't mean they have the same compassion for people.
If they gloated over it and said things like - I hope that dog had a slow painful death - or spouted on about how it's karma etc then yes I would think they are sick people. Woudn't you?Lauragoesmad wrote: »i know people who do loads of charity work for people but wouldn't give a sh*t if a dog got killed on front of them. Are you going to say they don't care about people because they don't care about animals?:rolleyes:
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helena.ryan wrote: »I think petas information should be shared, but in an appropiate way. Some of the things they show are too disturbing to be released to the general public, never mind plastered all over the place. If some of the things they show on busy streets, there for kids and all to see, were shown on TV without a graphic warning, there would be uproar, and rightly so. Organisations like ANVIL who are looking for legal rights for animals do a better job in my opinion.
I do think anvil do an excellent job aswell but I think peta get through to more people then anvil do.helena.ryan wrote: »what has been said here by some posters is not simply a lack of compassion, it is an all out gloating about the death of people. Gloating - I am glad they are dead - that not lack of compassion.
You have to understand how sick this practice makes some people feel. I actually felt sick all week over this hunt. Anytime it would pop into my head that it was happening or I saw an article, I felt so sad that as a clever species we can be so cruel and heartless. People say crazy things out of anger and surely you can understand that. There must be something that gets on your wick enough for you to say something like this. For me it would be the people who skin cats and dogs alive for fur. I wouldn't trust myself to be in the same room with them.helena.ryan wrote: »If they gloated over it and said things like - I hope that dog had a slow painful death - or spouted on about how it's karma etc then yes I would think they are sick people. Woudn't you?
An animal does not have a conscience like people do so its not the same comparison. People could feel that way if an animal actually killed kids on purpose or peoples pets. Animals kill to eat and because its their nature, not for sport.These men knowingly went out to kill baby seals by smashing their heads in with sharp sticks.
There was a warning given out about the weather in Newfoundland about the extreme weather this year that was ignored by most of the hunters until this accident happened.0 -
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helena.ryan wrote: »I see what you mean - but then I think it's foolish to wish death on someone - not for them, but for the families they left behind. It's hard enough to loose a family member without half the world being glad about it. I feel the same way about not loosing sleep over the men, but then again, did you loose sleep over those 5 people killed in a plane crash in Englad, or any of the other deaths in the world this weekend? I hate to say I didn't, in fact I was more upset about the seals to be honest. But to see people saying such cruel things is sickening to me. And not at all necessary.
When I heard about that plane crash, I did think to myself "God help those poor people!" I definitely felt sorry for them. Not so much for the hunters though. I hate to hear of anyone dying but when it comes to people who could be so cruel, I wouldn't waste my energy. I don't mean to sound callous but there are plenty more people in the world who deserve sympathy more than those men IMO.
The only way I could kill an animal would be to protect my own or to put one out of its misery if it was injured and both of those situations would probably have me a massive therapy bill afterwards,
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Lauragoesmad wrote: »When I heard about that plane crash, I did think to myself "God help those poor people!" I definitely felt sorry for them. Not so much for the hunters though. I hate to hear of anyone dying but when it comes to people who could be so cruel, I wouldn't waste my energy. I don't mean to sound callous but there are plenty more people in the world who deserve sympathy more than those men IMO.
The only way I could kill an animal would be to protect my own or to put one out of its misery if it was injured and both of those situations would probably have me a massive therapy bill afterwards,
I think there is really only a small difference in how we're thinking. Definately people who deserve more sympathy - and I'm one of the people who wont get too upset about their deaths - it's the people who are glad about it that annoy me.
As for the therapy - I can relate to that! But thats a seperate story.
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I only post on this forum when it turns into a discussion about wildlife really. It always amazes me what people come out with here. Saying these people deserved to die is simply nuts!! Anybody that says as much is closer to the animal kingdom than they think.:eek::rolleyes:
Did anybody check out the seal hunting link i posted by any chance or were ye too busy being vengeful and angry at these poor men trying to survive in that barren landscape. Those that say it is a sport are seriously mistaken, it's survival! It's their way of harvesting from the land/sea. It is alot more sustainable that our farming practices and more humane also. It just looks bloody and gruesome because it's not done in the confines of a factory. And for those that saw animals moving as they were being dragged back to the boat. That is a reaction from the nervous system as the body shuts down and is very common with head trauma in most animals. It can be seen when chickens have their heads chopped off also. The animals are most definately dead!
Read this, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Seal_hunting
Then come back and make an informed arguement.
LMAO!!!!!Seriously, you have got to be kidding, seal eggs?!:eek: Next time you feel compelled to comment on something take a second and google it at least and stop talking about things you obviously know absolutely nothing about.If these guys wanted to cull seals in a more humane manner they should find out where they breed and remove their eggs before they hatch. Nothing worse than seeing live baby seals being hacked to death.Lauragoesmad wrote: »When I heard about that plane crash, I did think to myself "God help those poor people!" I definitely felt sorry for them. Not so much for the hunters though. I hate to hear of anyone dying but when it comes to people who could be so cruel, I wouldn't waste my energy. I don't mean to sound callous but there are plenty more people in the world who deserve sympathy more than those men IMO.
The only way I could kill an animal would be to protect my own or to put one out of its misery if it was injured and both of those situations would probably have me a massive therapy bill afterwards,
Hi Laura, I'm not trying to be condecending, you are very passionate about animals and you stand by your principles well. But for god sake please learn a little about the natural world and how it works, it is a fascinating subject and i'm sure you would benefit from it. It is a shame to see somebody so passionate about animals being blinded from the bigger picture by cute faces.kerrysgold wrote: »They have no respect for animals, they have no qualms at all about murdering a defenceless baby, so no, I'd personally be quite happy if they all dropped dead, although that's a bit too humane to be good payback for what they've done. same applies to anyone else that has been cruel to animals or killed an animal in my book. (obviously vets are an exception if they pts an animal to stop it suffering)
You have alot to learn. :rolleyes:
Your just plain evil, people like you should be locked up!siouxie sue wrote: »Those feckers got what they deserved, i hope they had a slow cold death! :mad: 0 -
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Maybe they could be genetic engineered to hatch out into inflatible life raftsWith a little genetic engineering those seal eggs could hatch into tiny fur boots and parkas ... they could raise them and sell them to their fellow Eskimos and no seal would have to die ever again !:D:D 0 -
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