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  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 16,397 ✭✭✭✭Degsy


    If people of differnet races are meant to get along why dont birds of different species flock together?


  • Posts: 8,016 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Quality wrote: »
    I have my my opinion on this quite clear.

    For the record Paedophilia is not A-OK in my eyes.

    IF you have feelings you can not help, what else may you not be able to control....

    Good night all.

    I personally think that Paedophiles that do something to a child should get the death penalty(Very harsh some might say but I couldnt give a **** TBH...). They are ruining some child's life so they dont deserve theres.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,407 ✭✭✭gerky


    Degsy wrote: »
    If people of differnet races are meant to get along why dont birds of different species flock together?

    Race and species are two different things.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 16,397 ✭✭✭✭Degsy


    gerky wrote: »
    Race and species are two different things.

    Oh yeah?What races of bird can you have?What species of people?They're different words used to describe the same thing.One for man,the other for animals.


  • Posts: 16,720 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    The school day should start at 8am whereas the rest of the working population should start at (or around) 9am.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7 bubblebobble


    The Boards.ie community is an underground ring using coded messages to distribute donkey p0rn.

    This fact can be proven as most of the mods are jackasses.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 16,397 ✭✭✭✭Degsy


    The Boards.ie community is an underground ring using coded messages to distribute donkey p0rn.

    This fact can be proven as most of the mods are jackasses.

    You're a funny man FACT!:rolleyes:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,407 ✭✭✭gerky


    Degsy wrote: »
    Oh yeah?What races of bird can you have?What species of people?They're different words used to describe the same thing.One for man,the other for animals.

    There not the same thing species and race aren't rules set in stone they very from animal to animal.
    Humans aren't different species dogs and cats are.
    And incidentally different types of birds do flock together.


  • Registered Users Posts: 9,029 ✭✭✭Lockstep


    The Boards.ie community is an underground ring using coded messages to distribute donkey p0rn.

    This fact can be proven as most of the mods are jackasses.

    There's a Troll under that bridge.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 163 ✭✭-annex-


    I believe that all believers in astrology are either taking the p!ss, or have a serious deficiency in logical thinking.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 10,980 ✭✭✭✭chopperbyrne


    No more than a believer in an all powerfull God or gods.


  • Registered Users Posts: 21,611 ✭✭✭✭Sam Vimes


    Myth wrote: »
    The school day should start at 8am whereas the rest of the working population should start at (or around) 9am.

    if you're talking about solving traffic congestion, why don't we have the working population start at 8 and the students start at 9 eh? ;)
    would the resulting traffic not be the same?


  • Posts: 16,720 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    if you're talking about solving traffic congestion, why don't we have the working population start at 8 and the students start at 9 eh? ;)
    would the resulting traffic not be the same?

    More people on the roads at 9am; More natural light; Less accidents. I'd guess, anyways. Besides, after school it'd be a bonus to get to 'lie in' til 9am for students :D


  • Registered Users Posts: 9,029 ✭✭✭Lockstep


    Irelands public transport system is a disgrace.


    Congestion is atrocious in Ireland.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 163 ✭✭-annex-


    No more than a believer in an all powerfull God or gods.

    I can see why people choose to believe in a god, it's impossible to disprove. But considering the sheer amount of contradicting evidence for astrology, I fail to see how a strong belief can be made. Also most believers in astrology have no knowledge of physics, or indeed how exactly astrology is supposed to work.


  • Registered Users Posts: 12,778 ✭✭✭✭Kold


    -annex- wrote: »
    I can see why people choose to believe in a god, it's impossible to disprove. But considering the sheer amount of contradicting evidence for astrology, I fail to see how a strong belief can be made. Also most believers in astrology have no knowledge of physics, or indeed how exactly astrology is supposed to work.

    And tend to be Now magazine readers (retards).


  • Registered Users Posts: 14,182 ✭✭✭✭Pighead


    Irelands public transport system is a disgrace.


    Congestion is atrocious in Ireland.
    CONTROVERSIAL OVERLOAD! Pighead can't believe you just said that! You just done it for effect didn't you kickoutthejams. No fcuking way you really think that.

    On topic, this smiley should be giving the old heave ho.:D Only spanners use it.
    Now thats controversial.:cool:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,391 ✭✭✭One Cold Hand


    -annex- wrote: »
    I can see why people choose to believe in a god, it's impossible to disprove.

    It's also impossible to prove, which is more to the point.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,391 ✭✭✭One Cold Hand


    I really dislike the Munster Rugby team, and most of their supporters.
    I'm really getting sick of the whole 'We may not play pretty rugby, but at least we've got heart' thing.


  • Registered Users Posts: 10,980 ✭✭✭✭chopperbyrne


    I really dislike the Leinster Rugby team, and all of their supporters.


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  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 16,397 ✭✭✭✭Degsy


    I really dislike the Leinster Rugby team, and all of their supporters.


    I dislike anybody who likes football,especially those with football in thier sig!


  • Moderators, Arts Moderators Posts: 35,196 Mod ✭✭✭✭pickarooney


    Rape < Murder.
    Ask any law-talking guy.
    Ending a life > Damaging it irreperably.


  • Registered Users Posts: 5,925 ✭✭✭aidan24326


    Cop out answer.

    Elaborate please.


    If God exists, then God is omnipotent, omniscient, and morally perfect i.e omnibenevolent
    (according to what followers of the Abrahamic religions believe at least, those religions being the most relevant to the vast majority here)

    If God is omnipotent, then God has the power to eliminate all evil.
    (by definition of omnipotent)
    If God is omniscient, then God knows when and where evil exists.
    (again by definition)
    If God is morally perfect, then God has the desire to eliminate all evil.
    (or so you'd expect)
    Evil exists.
    (no denying that one)
    If evil exists and God exists, then either God doesn't have the power to eliminate all evil, or doesn't know when/where evil exists, or doesn't have the desire to eliminate all evil.
    Therefore, God (this type of god at least) doesn't exist.

    Of course that just refers to the omniscient, omnipotent, benevolent god of let's say christianity for example. However a god without omniscience and omnipotence is hardly much of a god, and that is the type of god that your average churchgoer believes in.

    Prayer is another issue. People pray and pray and wish for this and wish for that and nothing happens. Nothing. Ever. Nothing beyond statistical chance at least. Tests of prayer on sick patients have shown no positive effect at all. You pray for your sick uncle and he dies anyway. You pray that your kid's cancer treatment is successful and guess what? The tumour gets even bigger.

    In fact the most recent and probably most comprehensive test on hospital patients (I'll find a link if you like) actually showed a slightly negative effect.
    We don't need these tests anyway as it should be obvious to anyone who's ever prayed that lo and behold, 99% of the time nothing happens. Yet people pray away to some invisible god who, should he exist, is clearly and very obviously not listening, or certainly not prepared to intervene anyway. Ergo prayer is a complete waste of time, unless to massage god's ego (and one would hope god to be a bit above all that). Is praying thus stupid? Undeniably.

    Like I said I don't rule out the possibility of a more sophisticated type of god, a creator of some sort. I can't and nor can anyone else. But the type of personal god that alot of religious people believe in is patently absurd, and is a complete refusal to look objectively at how things actually are, rather than how they/I might like them to be.

    And Terry, I'm not copping out of anything. Just didn't want to take the thread off on a tangent.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,057 ✭✭✭Wacker


    Quality wrote: »
    IF you have feelings you can not help, what else may you not be able to control....

    Quality, have you ever been able to *think* away your hunger? Or your need to use the bathroom? What if you concentrated really hard?

    Look, I'm sure you mean well, but you are either completely mis-understanding what these guys are saying, or else you're just talking rubbish. Feelings cannot be controlled. Actions can be.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,057 ✭✭✭Wacker


    It's also impossible to prove, which is more to the point.
    No it isn't. Ever read any Thomas Aquinas?

    It is not impossible to prove the existence of things at all. It is actually rather easy most of the time. Disproving the existence of things is where it gets tricky.


  • Registered Users Posts: 6,779 ✭✭✭RobbieTheRobber


    -annex- wrote: »
    I believe that all believers in astrology are either taking the p!ss, or have a serious deficiency in logical thinking.

    especially seeing as pluto was declassified as a planet so what does my star chart mean now that pluto isn't rising:confused::confused:


  • Registered Users Posts: 12,556 ✭✭✭✭AckwelFoley


    If a man cheats on his wife, its the wifes fault for not keeping him happy & content. If a woman cheats on her husband, he should be allowed to by law whoop her ass.

    Jumps behind sofa for cover! Incomming!!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,391 ✭✭✭One Cold Hand


    Wacker wrote: »
    No it isn't. Ever read any Thomas Aquinas?

    Haven't read Thomas Aquinas. Are you on about god revealing himself throught nature?
    It is not impossible to prove the existence of things at all. It is actually rather easy most of the time. Disproving the existence of things is where it gets tricky.

    Of course it's possible to prove the existance of 'things.' God isn't a 'thing'.


  • Registered Users Posts: 26,061 ✭✭✭✭Terry


    aidan24326 wrote: »
    If God exists, then God is omnipotent, omniscient, and morally perfect i.e omnibenevolent
    (according to what followers of the Abrahamic religions believe at least, those religions being the most relevant to the vast majority here)

    If God is omnipotent, then God has the power to eliminate all evil.
    (by definition of omnipotent)
    If God is omniscient, then God knows when and where evil exists.
    (again by definition)
    If God is morally perfect, then God has the desire to eliminate all evil.
    (or so you'd expect)
    Evil exists.
    (no denying that one)
    If evil exists and God exists, then either God doesn't have the power to eliminate all evil, or doesn't know when/where evil exists, or doesn't have the desire to eliminate all evil.
    Therefore, God (this type of god at least) doesn't exist.

    Of course that just refers to the omniscient, omnipotent, benevolent god of let's say christianity for example. However a god without omniscience and omnipotence is hardly much of a god, and that is the type of god that your average churchgoer believes in.

    Prayer is another issue. People pray and pray and wish for this and wish for that and nothing happens. Nothing. Ever. Nothing beyond statistical chance at least. Tests of prayer on sick patients have shown no positive effect at all. You pray for your sick uncle and he dies anyway. You pray that your kid's cancer treatment is successful and guess what? The tumour gets even bigger.

    In fact the most recent and probably most comprehensive test on hospital patients (I'll find a link if you like) actually showed a slightly negative effect.
    We don't need these tests anyway as it should be obvious to anyone who's ever prayed that lo and behold, 99% of the time nothing happens. Yet people pray away to some invisible god who, should he exist, is clearly and very obviously not listening, or certainly not prepared to intervene anyway. Ergo prayer is a complete waste of time, unless to massage god's ego (and one would hope god to be a bit above all that). Is praying thus stupid? Undeniably.

    Like I said I don't rule out the possibility of a more sophisticated type of god, a creator of some sort. I can't and nor can anyone else. But the type of personal god that alot of religious people believe in is patently absurd, and is a complete refusal to look objectively at how things actually are, rather than how they/I might like them to be.

    And Terry, I'm not copping out of anything. Just didn't want to take the thread off on a tangent.
    God helps those who help themselves.

    especially seeing as pluto was declassified as a planet so what does my star chart mean now that pluto isn't rising:confused::confused:

    Needs more Viagra.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 21,611 ✭✭✭✭Sam Vimes


    -annex- wrote: »
    I can see why people choose to believe in a god, it's impossible to disprove.

    http://www.venganza.org/


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