Cowboy Gardai

Xavi6

Now before I start this is NOT a garda bashing thread. They do a great job blah blah blah. However they get some nice perks out of it. Take my mate. He's a recently qualified garda, straight out of the sty and full of power. Flashes the badge wherever possible to prevent crime.....or to get a free bag of chips from Macari's.

It's unbelievable. Spar down from the station give him and his buddies free coffee in exchange for extra vigilence, he never pays into a nightclub, he can park his car in Dublin Castle all day to do his shopping and only today I've been informed he is on his way to Limerick by train with his buddies on the piss. Did he pay for the ticket? Did he f*ck. Quick badge flash and he's off.

What I'm wondering really is this just a perk of the job or should it be stood for? Also does anyone else have stories of rogue guards getting free chicken rolls?

P.S. He's also allowed drive a squad car yet is a notorious dodgy driving. I've had a brush with death on at least one occassion.

"Cowboys Ted, they're all a bunch of cowboys"

Red Hand

Ring Joe Duffy on Monday.

MayMay

Xavi6 wrote: »

Now before I start this is NOT a garda bashing thread. They do a great job blah blah blah. However they get some nice perks out of it. Take my mate. He's a recently qualified garda, straight out of the sty and full of power. Flashes the badge wherever possible to prevent crime.....or to get a free bag of chips from Macari's.

It's unbelievable. Spar down from the station give him and his buddies free coffee in exchange for extra vigilence, he never pays into a nightclub, he can park his car in Dublin Castle all day to do his shopping and only today I've been informed he is on his way to Limerick by train with his buddies on the piss. Did he pay for the ticket? Did he f*ck. Quick badge flash and he's off.

What I'm wondering really is this just a perk of the job or should it be stood for? Also does anyone else have stories of rogue guards getting free chicken rolls?

P.S. He's also allowed drive a squad car yet is a notorious dodgy driving. I've had a brush with death on at least one occassion.

"Cowboys Ted, they're all a bunch of cowboys"

That's so wrong, talk about taking advantage! He should be reported! I know he's your mate and all but that's just taking the piss.

Mr. Incognito

Not a job I'd want for all the free coffees and parking in the world. Perks- he's a guard- that's punishment enough.

nice1franko

I know loads of gardai - everyone of them gets perks like that and lot more besides which I wont go into cos some of them are actually alright and it'd dead handy to have a garda or two on your side

Xavi6

Jeremiah 16:1 wrote: »

Ring Joe Duffy on Monday.

Don't know if RTE could stretch their budget to ring back a caller on the other side of the world

Rob_l

garda ombudsman has been forwarded a link to this thread FTW

Dragan

Indeed, because the good folk who will reply in this thread have never taken advantage of job perks before. :rolleyes:

Rob_l

Dragan wrote: »

Indeed, because the good folk who will reply in this thread have never taken advantage of job perks before. :rolleyes:

its criminal for a garda to do it
so its very different

arybvtcw0eolkf

Well I get to park free at various government building and state offices too.

I also get free a limited amount of travel warrents, regardless what your friend says, this is what he gets.

I'm not a cop, but I do get some perks

(Oh yea) A.C.A.B.

Red Hand

Xavi6 wrote: »

Don't know if RTE could stretch their budget to ring back a caller on the other side of the world

Well, Pat Kenny was brought in from the far side of the moon, so you never know!:p

RxQueen

in fairness if you could get away with it you would... well i would does that make me a bad person?

everybody has perks to there job, some just take more advantage of em than others

scaramanga

nice1franko wrote: »

I know loads of gardai - everyone of them gets perks like that and lot more besides which I wont go into cos some of them are actually alright and it'd dead handy to have a garda or two on your side

exactly the same, better to have the baxtards with u than against:o

GhostInTheRuins

Knew some gaurd that would always flash her badge to get her and her friends into nightclubs for free etc. If I ever worked anywhere and a guard tried to do anything like that I'd laugh in their face. It's a disgrace tbh.

juuge

Rob_l wrote: »

garda ombudsman has been forwarded a link to this thread FTW

He's the man alright !

colliegG

Yeah the guards are disgusting with all their 'perks' of getting into nightclubs free etc.

Not like insurance workers with their cheap insurance.
Or bank workers with their preferential loans.
Or shop workers with their store discounts.
Or assorted civil servants with their free parking, subsidised canteens etc.
Or bar workers with their late pints after work.
Or anyone with flexi time.
Or teachers with their half days.

I could go on.

You know cops can get their stab proof vest replaced, just like that, when it gets splashed with bodily fluids. It's a disgraceful waste of resources really!

Point is every job has perks.

Celticfire

D.T. Jesus wrote: »

Knew some gaurd that would always flash her badge to get her and her friends into nightclubs for free etc. If I ever worked anywhere and a guard tried to do anything like that I'd laugh in their face. It's a disgrace tbh.

Why is it a disgrace? It's up to the nightclub owner who they want to let in for free.

Trojan911

Xavi6 wrote: »

Also does anyone else have stories of rogue guards getting free chicken rolls?

I used to know a bouncer in London who used to photocopy their warrant cards when they blagged free entry. He had no worries when he was stopped.

Blagging free entry to a club is an abuse of authority in the UK & is a sackable offence or it can be seen as a gratuity. Dunno if the cops here have to declare that though.

Lola123

colliegG wrote: »

Yeah the guards are disgusting with all their 'perks' of getting into nightclubs free etc.

Not like insurance workers with their cheap insurance.
Or bank workers with their preferential loans.
Or shop workers with their store discounts.
Or assorted civil servants with their free parking, subsidised canteens etc.
Or bar workers with their late pints after work.
Or anyone with flexi time.
Or teachers with their half days.

I could go on.

You know cops can get their stab proof vest replaced, just like that, when it gets splashed with bodily fluids. It's a disgraceful waste of resources really!

Point is every job has perks.

AND they also get FREE injections againts Hepatitis etc! Can you imagine? It's so unfair!

jetsonx

to give you another example:

I was in Dublin City Centre two weeks ago - patrol car parked outside an
Abrakebabra. Then out comes one of the lads with two bags of food. He hops in the passenger seat, car pulls off the footpath and the driver puts blue lights on straight away. Now either one of two things happened a) they got an emergency call just there OR b) they were putting the lights on to get back to the station quicker and stuff themselves.

If it was incident "b" - it it really really annoying that they are harassing the general public everyday for petty things BUT when its comes to obeying the rules of their own organisation - they just flagrantly flout them.

Xavi6

jetsonx wrote: »

to give you another example:

I was in Dublin City Centre two weeks ago - patrol car parked outside an
Abrakebabra. Then out comes one of the lads with two bags of food. He hops in the passenger seat, car pulls off the footpath and the driver puts blue lights on straight away. Now either one of two things happened a) they got an emergency call just there OR b) they were putting the lights on to get back to the station quicker and stuff themselves.

If it was incident "b" - it it really really annoying that they are harassing the general public everyday for petty things BUT when its comes to obeying the rules of their own organisation - they just flagrantly flout them.

There is no doubt in my mind that it was incident B. Them chip butties go cold awful quick

GhostInTheRuins

Celticfire wrote: »

Why is it a disgrace? It's up to the nightclub owner who they want to let in for free.

Because they think they're better than everyone else. "I'm a guard, why should I have to pay". But of course it's the people on the doors of they nightclubs etc that let them get away with it.

colliegG

Lola123 wrote: »

AND they also get FREE injections againts Hepatitis etc! Can you imagine? It's so unfair!

And don't get me started on the free uniform.

Joe public has to wear his own clothes at work and the guards *boo, hiss* get provided with clothes. Sickening.

mox54

seriously, ye should listen to ye'reselves, they get a few perks here and there and every cop on the face of the planet gets these, the met police are just as bad if not worse, lets face the fact, It's not a job I'd do, taking all the crap and ****ty jobs you get doled out, the **** hours and crap pay, no thanks, they need the perks to keep them sane and motivated!!!!!!!!!!!:cool:

markpb

D.T. Jesus wrote: »

Because they think they're better than everyone else. "I'm a guard, why should I have to pay". But of course it's the people on the doors of they nightclubs etc that let them get away with it.

It's generally accepted that if a garda is given free admission to a nightclub, they'll help out if there are any problems with other customers. I'll scratch your back, you scratch mine...

yayamark

Xavi6 wrote: »

Now before I start this is NOT a garda bashing thread. They do a great job blah blah blah. However they get some nice perks out of it. Take my mate. He's a recently qualified garda, straight out of the sty and full of power. Flashes the badge wherever possible to prevent crime.....or to get a free bag of chips from Macari's.

It's unbelievable. Spar down from the station give him and his buddies free coffee in exchange for extra vigilence, he never pays into a nightclub, he can park his car in Dublin Castle all day to do his shopping and only today I've been informed he is on his way to Limerick by train with his buddies on the piss. Did he pay for the ticket? Did he f*ck. Quick badge flash and he's off.

What I'm wondering really is this just a perk of the job or should it be stood for? Also does anyone else have stories of rogue guards getting free chicken rolls?

P.S. He's also allowed drive a squad car yet is a notorious dodgy driving. I've had a brush with death on at least one occassion.

"Cowboys Ted, they're all a bunch of cowboys"

Jealousy will get u nowhere

Keyzer

Its always been like that...

I worked in Maccers 15 years ago and whenever the police came in they got whatever they wanted for free, this was a direct order from the store manager.

Its been happening for years...

silverharp

friends of the family had a restaurant in Harcourt street in the 80s and within a week of the opening the boys were down for their free grub. But then again the bin men used to come looking for money at xmas, if they tried that now I'd tell em to f*** off!

arybvtcw0eolkf

How about a €38k per year perk?..

colliegG

Mairt wrote: »

How about a €38k per year perk?..

Ah come on now, if you want the best you gotta pay the best.

Actually, hold on. Wait a minute. . .

Pigman II

colliegG wrote: »

Ah come on now, if you want the best you gotta pay the best.

Robocop works for free and he's easily worth 2 (if not 3) Gardai. The future is bionic!

JohnCleary

Ah give them their perks. We all have little perks of our jobs, just Gardai have better perks than others.

TBH no 'perks' of the job would make me be a Garda - screw that.

Rb

I could give a f*ck how much free stuff they get as long as they do their job well.

Tinytony

Doesn't bother me in the slightest. It's hardly the end of the word, I know if i had a business i'd be keeping the local gardai onside.

jetsonx

mox54 wrote: »

, It's not a job I'd do, taking all the crap and ****ty jobs you get doled out, the **** hours and crap pay

its not crap pay at all - look at the CSO website. Plus, they get very generous overtime, paid for by you and me the taxpayer. (Ever wonder why more than average gardai are floating about on a Bank Holiday? - reason: Fat overtime cheques) ..Moreover, its a state guaranteed job. No fear factory close downs, no fear of any economic downturns for them - they still get paid. I never heard of a member of our force having trouble getting a mortgage.

thebman

colliegG wrote: »

Yeah the guards are disgusting with all their 'perks' of getting into nightclubs free etc.

Not like insurance workers with their cheap insurance.
Or bank workers with their preferential loans.
Or shop workers with their store discounts.
Or assorted civil servants with their free parking, subsidised canteens etc.
Or bar workers with their late pints after work.
Or anyone with flexi time.
Or teachers with their half days.

I could go on.

You know cops can get their stab proof vest replaced, just like that, when it gets splashed with bodily fluids. It's a disgraceful waste of resources really!

Point is every job has perks.

There's a difference between a perk from your boss and bribery from the local businesses.

Guards taking "gifts" like that is corrupt whether you like it or not. Just because everyone does it or everyone would do it in that situation because they can get away with it, doesn't make it right.

You shouldn't have to pay the guards for protection because we already do in our taxes. They get paid and should do their jobs for the wage they are paid. They should be reported for taking these "gifts".

I hate this, they have a terrible job nonsense. They wanted to do, trained to do it, get paid to do it so they should be doing it for the wage they get paid and fired for not doing it, same as everyone else IMO.

However, I know this will never happen in most countries because everyone is corruptable. Doesn't make it right, just makes it one of those annoying things in life that this type of nonsense goes on.

eroo

Does anyone here actually realise that most Gardai have a 'record book' w/ each shop..basically everything they get is put down in the book and paid at weekly/monthly periods.I have seen Gardai coming and gioing in a shop close to my school,when they buy something they write into the book and off they go.Then a week/month later they pay for it in bulk...nothing corrupt there.

As regards the nightclubs,of course your going to want to have off-duty Gardai in your club if things get messy.
Lads and Lasses,the high horses are getting quite tired,please come down off them

Fulton Crown

Jeeze do we not PAY the cnuts to be onside -- why would they be looking for additional dropsy...:mad:

tallus

The deserve anything they get for free, I'd get the free stuff myself if I could, but no fuc*king way would I do the job they do.
I wouldn't begrudge them a single thing. Funny that the thread was started by someone who doesn't even live here... a tad ironic heh

Fulton Crown

Anyone agree that the cops tend to go for the softer target - they lean heavily on the easier guys an shy away from tacklin the hard men.

Celticfire

Fulton Crown wrote: »

Anyone agree that the cops tend to go for the softer target - they lean heavily on the easier guys an shy away from tacklin the hard men.

what has that got to do with the thread?

thebman

tallus wrote: »

The deserve anything they get for free, I'd get the free stuff myself if I could, but no fuc*king way would I do the job they do.
I wouldn't begrudge them a single thing. Funny that the thread was started by someone who doesn't even live here... a tad ironic heh

Why? They agreed to do it for the wage they get paid. Why should they be paid extra's from the public in order to do their job properly? Why should someone not willing to bribe them to do their job not get assistance over someone that did?

It is not okay IMO but I know its impossible to stop and I'm in no way saying I wouldn't do it giving the chance because I'm not in a job that I can take bribe's to do my job properly. I just get sacked if I don't do it right.

They agreed to do it for the wage on their contract so that is what they should get paid. They knew the dangers involved when they agreed to do the job. If circumstances change, they are free to quit their job and do something else at any time.

Fulton Crown

Sorry mate ...lost the run o mesell - smooth as a dog mate - smooth as a dog

tallus

brim4brim wrote: »

Why? They agreed to do it for the wage they get paid. Why should they be paid extra's from the public in order to do their job properly? Why should someone not willing to bribe them to do their job not get assistance over someone that did?

It is not okay IMO but I know its impossible to stop and I'm in no way saying I wouldn't do it giving the chance because I'm not in a job that I can take bribe's to do my job properly. I just get sacked if I don't do it right.

They agreed to do it for the wage on their contract so that is what they should get paid. They knew the dangers involved when they agreed to do the job. If circumstances change, they are free to quit their job and do something else at any time.

I think the fact that they do get "bribes" is a reflection on the nature of the job they do and not the service they provide.

OPENROAD

nothing to see here now, move along now.

thebman

Fulton Crown wrote: »

Anyone agree that the cops tend to go for the softer target - they lean heavily on the easier guys an shy away from tacklin the hard men.

Of course they do this and it is wrong too. This is more wrong than taking the bribes to do their jobs IMO because this really affects peoples lifes a lot more.

When they pick on someone that has committed a small crime to make themselves feel like big men they are no more than thugs.

When they won't go after the bigger criminals they are not doing the job we pay them to do and encourage more people to become violent criminals, drug dealers etc...

Kat1170

Jeeeze, I wish I had a conscience as clear as some of the people on here:rolleyes:. ALL jobs have some kind of perks. Like the old saying ‘you will never see a hungry cook.’

thefinalstage

Kat1170 wrote: »

Jeeeze, I wish I had a conscience as clear as some of the people on here:rolleyes:. ALL jobs have some kind of perks. Like the old saying ‘you will never see a hungry cook.’

So? Guards get everyone else's perks.

Kat1170

Nope, They've never got any of mine.

kowloon

This might be more of an issue if refusing said fast food or club entry resulted in a violent reprisal.
I haven't heard of any abrakebabra being smashed up over no free taco fries recently.

Rob_l

To A robber this thread is bullshiat its okay for a garda to rob the system though they are entrusted nay enshrined by law and constitution to protect but should an average decent criminal try to make a run through fools errands its a crime but its ok for the most important of our civil servants to rob us.

Well done this state you have shown me we were not wrong to elect charlies thieving children to government and we were wrong to doubt the donations made to bertie because surely its all a perk of the job.


Actually let me be the first to say bullshiat
bullshiat to ye all who agree with the keepers of peace perpetrating crimes if they shall i shall and so shall the thief be the king of all men