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AceCard Jones wrote: »Hi all,
I've gotten to the point now where the weights/programs are getting quite hard, and pushing through the workout is getting more and more difficult, so my question is would it be majorly beneficial to me to also start on Creatine?
I am eager to gain size and strength but am also not prepared to put my health at risk in the immediate or long term to do so. I've read such conflicting information about Creatine all over the place, and talking to people in the know doesn't really help either as they all contradict each other.
Also need info on dosage, obviously directions come with the product but some experts around the net recommend 20-25g of saturation for the first 5 days and then 5-10 grams daily from then on for 6-8 weeks then start the cycle again. What do you guys think?
Lastly I'm not sure whether to go with the powder or the capsules. The capsules save me having to make another shake alongside my whey which saves time and effort but means dosage isn't customisable. Thoughts?
I'm heading into town tomorrow to that BioTech shop in the Ilac centre so would appreciate any info asap. Thanks in advance.
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Get yourself a good quality creatine monohydrate, something like:
http://www.myprotein.com/ie/products/creapure
high quality german crepure and buy some dextrose sugar for about 2 euro in tesco!
You dont need to do a bulk phase (10 - 20g a day), you will get the ame results over a longer period if u take 5g a day for 3 wks and continue to do so!
As for making an extra shake, why bother? Just throw your creatine and dextrose and whatever else you want in with your whey PWO!
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There's journals full of peer-reviewed, verified, scientific studies on a variety of sportsmen and women that have documented quite the opposite to your personal experience.
Creatine works, people just a) get waaaay too bogged down in the myth that is 'loading', b) expect it to be some miracle supplement that can somehow out perform a crappy diet and bad training and c) expect too much from it even when they are doing it right.
edit: or as Hanley so eloquently put it, b*llox
Well i personally dont think it works,at least not to the extent that justifies anything like its price tag.
think it,like most supplements is a scam aimed at entry-level bicep-curlers who expect to pile weight on with three meals a day,ten mins in the gym and a whole heap of expensive rubbish.
Now,Miss Moderator..if *i* stuck the word "bollocks" onto the end of a post i'd expect a rap on the knuckles from your good self about etiquette and tone of voice...everybody is entitled to thier opinion..i'm just trying to save people some money.0 -
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Hey peeps,
I just bought Nutrition x pro matrix as i'm trying to lose weight and just looking on the directions it says to take three shakes , one before training then one before your next two meals . Just wondering is this the proper way to use it as it kinda seems a bit excessive or if anyone else has used it differently ??
Any help here would be greatly appreciated
I have 2 a day, with 2 big scoops. one round lunchime and another straight after the gym. hope ye got the mint choc one, tastes pretty good just with water.0 -
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Go with Myprotein. Cheap and cheerful protein, does exactly what you want. Protein is protein, these super products that Maximuscle and the likes claim to produce are overpriced bull, so just go with something cheap and it will still do the same job. You can get 5 Kilos unflavoured for 53 quid, that will last you nearly 3 months assuming you take 2 scoops a day. Go with unflavoured, it's the best value and it isn't to bad. Just mix it 200-300ml of milk and down it.
http://www.myprotein.com/ie/products/impact-whey-protein
Cool Thanks for that. Just 2 questions
Should I have it with water or milk? I was always under the impression that I should use water instead of milk. I remember someone saying I could put on weight if I use milk.
Also following on from that, is there any danger of putting on weight though using protein.
Finally, my sister is using a supplement from Holland & Barrett. She said it breaks up fat or something. Should I look at other supplements? Thinking of taking Omega 3 & get the necessary fats in !0 -
Cool Thanks for that. Just 2 questions
Should I have it with water or milk? I was always under the impression that I should use water instead of milk. I remember someone saying I could put on weight if I use milk.
Also following on from that, is there any danger of putting on weight though using protein.
Finally, my sister is using a supplement from Holland & Barrett. She said it breaks up fat or something. Should I look at other supplements? Thinking of taking Omega 3 & get the necessary fats in !
While I do not have any great understanding, here is a link someone gave me the other day that explains things a bit better in terms of diet http://www.liamrosen.com/fitness.html#part3
Milk is better to use with protein (whey) if you consider the extra protein it adds - you could use low-fat/skim if your worried about fat content.
Do you want to lose weight or gain muscle or both? I do not think it is so much about doing weights/cardio flat out while not eating as much, but rather doing weights/cardio and eating right.
More experiences posters please feel free to pick apart.0 -
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Thanks, think I Might go with this too and test it out - got to be better than Holland and Barret's Precision Engineered! I presume the website has been ok for you in the past?
Myprotein is a great website IMO. I usually make a weight gain shake from their various products (Whey, Oats and Creatine). For 100 quid I can get 2 months worth of whey, 1 and a half months worth of oats (using 200g a day) and a couple of months worth of creatine. If I was to buy known brands such as ON Supermass, I'd pay 105-120 quid for roughly 1 months worth of stuff If I take 1 serving a day, even though they recommend 2. It all does the same job so it's not necessary to buy pre-made mixes from big brands.Cool Thanks for that. Just 2 questions
Should I have it with water or milk? I was always under the impression that I should use water instead of milk. I remember someone saying I could put on weight if I use milk.
Also following on from that, is there any danger of putting on weight though using protein.
Finally, my sister is using a supplement from Holland & Barrett. She said it breaks up fat or something. Should I look at other supplements? Thinking of taking Omega 3 & get the necessary fats in !
Personally I take it with milk as I find it gives a better taste and texture. Use water if you're watching your calorie in take, if you're trying to put on weight use milk. Milk wont have some super weight effect though, it's 42 calories per 100ml so 250ml added to a shake is only 105 calories.
Weight is put on purely through calorie in take. You can take 5 scoops of whey a day and not put on weight, or take 1 scoop and be putting on huge amounts of weight. It's purely down to your diet, not the supplements. Cut out any shíte and eat clean, you wont put on weight if you eat right. That said though, to gain muscle your must eat over your maintenance intake of calories, 200-400 calories is the recommended amount. This will give you a rough idea, mine is 2550 so I generally try to eat 2850-3000 calories a day. http://www.freedieting.com/tools/calorie_calculator.htm
I wouldn't look to much into supplements to be honest, they'll help but they're not superdrugs. The most recommended 3 are usually Whey, Creatine and a Multivitamin. You can take others if you wish, but they're not necessary.0 -
Thanks for the responses..
I actually have this "USN recovery Xcell" in the house. Its a sports recovery supplement that says a "blend of whey protein isolate, fast acting carbohydrates & nutrients for maximum muscle recovery"!
Would this be good to take as I want to increase my protein & 3 scoops (or 95g) of it is equal to 18.5g of protein.
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Thanks for the responses..
I actually have this "USN recovery Xcell" in the house. Its a sports recovery supplement that says a "blend of whey protein isolate, fast acting carbohydrates & nutrients for maximum muscle recovery"!
Would this be good to take as I want to increase my protein & 3 scoops (or 95g) of it is equal to 18.5g of protein.
Cheers
If 3 scoops (95g) is equal to only 18.5g of protein what is the Carb and Fat & total calorie content? 18.5g of protein from 95g of powder is not that big a return. YOu get a better protein return from a 130g tin of Tuna
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TommyKnocker wrote: »If 3 scoops (95g) is equal to only 18.5g of protein what is the Carb and Fat & total calorie content? 18.5g of protein from 95g of powder is not that big a return. YOu get a better protein return from a 130g tin of Tuna
Carb is 69.2 & Fat is 0.2g...whats that like in terms of other protein supplements?
I'd say I will def go for protein shakes to be honest
Just unsure if this one is good!
Oh it doesn't say what calories are in them? Any way I could calculate it?0 -
Carb is 69.2 & Fat is 0.2g...whats that like in terms of other protein supplements?
I'd say I will def go for protein shakes to be honest Just unsure if this one is good!
Oh it doesn't say what calories are in them? Any way I could calculate it?
Not what I would chose as a protein shake tbh as carb content si way too high for my liking and mostly all from sugars I'd bet.
As a rule of thumb, carbs provide 4 cals/g and protein also provides 4g/cal. So as there is minimal fat (which provides 9cals/g) content you can multply 95g by 4 to get 380 cals /95 gram serving. :eek::eek::eek:0 -
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