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Brexit: The Last Stand (No name calling)

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  • #2
    dinorebel
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,283 ✭✭✭dinorebel


    Peregrine wrote: »
    Play nice.

    Old thread: http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2057613669

    If you were banned from posting in the old thread, you're still banned from posting in this thread.
    Good luck with that;)


  • #3
    Infini
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,573 ✭✭✭Infini


    U locked mah threeeeeeeeead! :D
    tomwaterford wrote: »
    What's the point in having a referendum if your just going to ignore the results


    They fought a somewhat disastrous wars to bring democracy to the middle East....but will ignore it at home

    Lets be clear here if the referendum was based on sound fact's from both sides it wouldn't be an issue but the fact is it was barely carried and alot of it was due to misinformation and because it was more seen as a protest vote as well. There's also the fact that the vote itself was deeply divisive across generations and territories and its a complete mess. The whole thing only started because it was the damn tories being stupid in the first place and blaming Europe for their own inadequacies. Now they risk the UK breaking up in the next decade because of it.

    The only thing that might save them is if it's decided that parliament has to vote on triggering it and if things get bad enough beforehand there might be enough pressure on the MPs and enough shift in public opinion to basically say "screw this" and call it quits on this. The fall in the £ and the risk of prices rising across the board and job losses can swing things very quickly if it bites hard enough.

    As for the middle east dont make anyone laugh that whole region is a cesspool filled with ignorance stupidity and Darwin Award State, they didnt exactly bring much democracy there only blew open pent up frustrastions. Russia and 'Murica aint making things any better but the place is a dump as it and it'll take a century or more or a nuclear war before they wise up and realise how stupid they are. Once the oil dries up out there they're screwed big time all that bad karma will come back to bite em.


  • #4
    frozenfrozen
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,883 ✭✭✭frozenfrozen


    I can't believe it's not brexit


  • #5
    Peregrine
    Moderators, Education Moderators Posts: 26,403 Mod ✭✭✭✭Peregrine


    Infini2 wrote: »
    U locked mah threeeeeeeeead! :D

    Dey tuk ar threds!


  • #6
    Ted_YNWA
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 71,799 ✭✭✭✭Ted_YNWA


    but you'll never take their freedom


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  • #7
    Harry Palmr
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    Looking at the coverage of the UK government briefing on Brexit, it looks like the penny is starting to stop (and not just in value!)


  • #8
    highgiant1985
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,777 ✭✭✭highgiant1985


    I missed the first thread so apologises if this has already been discussed but something I'm interested in is if there is any likelihood of another referendum being called in the UK instead of the Britex process being triggered officially? Has there been any talk of that?

    I only ask based on previous votes in Ireland such as the Nice or Lisbon treaty where by a referendum was run a second time and the people changed their mind.


  • #9
    The_Valeyard
    Closed Accounts Posts: 12,452 ✭✭✭✭The_Valeyard


    Brexit v2?

    Could we not call it 'The Brexiting'


  • #10
    FrancieBrady
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 70,080 ✭✭✭✭FrancieBrady


    highgiant1985 wrote: »
    I missed the first thread so apologises if this has already been discussed but something I'm interested in is if there is any likelihood of another referendum being called in the UK instead of the Britex process being triggered officially? Has there been any talk of that?

    I only ask based on previous votes in Ireland such as the Nice or Lisbon treaty where by a referendum was run a second time and the people changed their mind.

    It has been suggested and ruled out by May.
    Personally I wouldn't.


  • #11
    Junkyard Tom
    Registered Users Posts: 10,117 ✭✭✭✭Junkyard Tom


    Hopefully it won't harm the British economy too much because it'll be bad for all of us if it does.


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  • #12
    steddyeddy
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 27,564 ✭✭✭✭steddyeddy


    Junkyard Tom wrote: »
    Hopefully it won't harm the British economy too much because it'll be bad for all of us if it does.

    It will harm us either way I think. Hopefully lessons will be learned.


  • #13
    catbear
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,092 ✭✭✭catbear


    Junkyard Tom wrote: »
    Hopefully it won't harm the British economy too much because it'll be bad for all of us if it does.
    being politically attached to Britain was a disaster for us. brexit is the heave we need to break the lure of that easy market.

    It would be wrong to waste a good crisis.


  • #14
    For Forks Sake
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,654 ✭✭✭✭For Forks Sake


    The_Valeyard wrote: »
    Brexit v2?

    Could we not call it 'The Brexiting'

    Brexit Harder


  • #15
    Harry Palmr
    Closed Accounts Posts: 40,061 ✭✭✭✭Harry Palmr


    catbear

    Why would a small open economy wilfully decide to reject an English speaking economy of 62 million poeple right next door?


  • #16
    FrancieBrady
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 70,080 ✭✭✭✭FrancieBrady


    catbear wrote: »
    being politically attached to Britain was a disaster for us. brexit is the heave we need to break the lure of that easy market.

    It would be wrong to waste a good crisis.

    A Britain going it alone will be more susceptible to boom and bust.
    You are right we should start seeking to end us catching a cold every time it sneezes.


  • #17
    Junkyard Tom
    Registered Users Posts: 10,117 ✭✭✭✭Junkyard Tom


    catbear wrote: »
    being politically attached to Britain was a disaster for us. brexit is the heave we need to break the lure of that easy market.

    It would be wrong to waste a good crisis.

    We're going to trade with a market of +60m people, only a few miles across the sea, one way or another. To think that we could avoid it is unrealistic.


  • #18
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 31,118 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    More like "The Brexit saga - series II".


  • #19
    Peregrine
    Moderators, Education Moderators Posts: 26,403 Mod ✭✭✭✭Peregrine


    For Forks Sake wrote: »
    Brexit Harder

    Next one will be Brexit with a Vengeance.


  • #20
    Skylinehead
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,690 ✭✭✭✭Skylinehead


    Peregrine wrote: »
    Next one will be Brexit with a Vengeance.

    Brexit Boogaloo


  • #21
    Grayson
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,321 ✭✭✭✭Grayson


    Peregrine wrote: »
    Next one will be Brexit with a Vengeance.

    If we ever reach a good day to brexit hard I think I may just leave.


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  • #22
    stimpson
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,822 ✭✭✭stimpson


    Thread title had me hoping they decided to leave the UN.



    I am disappoint.


  • #23
    FrancieBrady
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 70,080 ✭✭✭✭FrancieBrady


    Interesting point by Naomi Long on Spotlight, no secretary of state on the cabinet Brexit Committee.
    Looks like it's gonna be like it or lump it come decision time. Whatever about NI, it seems impossible to avoid annoying the Scots.


  • #24
    catbear
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,092 ✭✭✭catbear


    Junkyard Tom wrote: »
    catbear wrote: »
    being politically attached to Britain was a disaster for us. brexit is the heave we need to break the lure of that easy market.

    It would be wrong to waste a good crisis.

    We're going to trade with a market of +60m people, only a few miles across the sea, one way or another. To think that we could avoid it is unrealistic.
    We actually trade more with the EU and also globally than we do with the UK.

    Anyway how
    Brexit II, the Empire Strikes Back!


  • #25
    Fred Swanson
    Closed Accounts Posts: 21,730 ✭✭✭✭Fred Swanson


    This post has been deleted.


  • #26
    FrancieBrady
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 70,080 ✭✭✭✭FrancieBrady


    The Brexit Chainsaw Massacree!


  • #27
    daithi7
    Registered Users Posts: 1,302 ✭✭✭daithi7


    Fred Swanson wrote: »
    It will be interesting to see what the High Court and Supreme Courts rule on May's authority to trigger Article 50 without the consent of Parliament.

    It could be what undoes this omni-shambles of a mess.

    With any luck. Parliament will get their say surely, and if they do there must be a growing realisation there of what a complete cluster fxxx this really is.


  • #28
    Muahahaha
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,688 ✭✭✭✭Muahahaha


    saving nice bobs on a car from the UK soon. And this Xmas should be sweet with sterling getting weaker. Enjoying Brexit so far.


  • #29
    outinthefields
    Registered Users Posts: 51 ✭✭outinthefields


    BrexIn the Next Generation


  • #30
    Peregrinus
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26,703 ✭✭✭✭Peregrinus


    highgiant1985 wrote: »
    I missed the first thread so apologises if this has already been discussed but something I'm interested in is if there is any likelihood of another referendum being called in the UK instead of the Britex process being triggered officially? Has there been any talk of that?

    I only ask based on previous votes in Ireland such as the Nice or Lisbon treaty where by a referendum was run a second time and the people changed their mind.
    Legally such a thing would be possible. Politically, however, it's a non-starter. If political circumstances change it could happen in the future, but I really don't think we're talking about the near future.


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  • #31
    Peregrinus
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    Harry Palmr wrote: »
    catbear

    Why would a small open economy wilfully decide to reject an English speaking economy of 62 million poeple right next door?
    It's they who are dong the rejecting, surely? Right now they're in a single market with (among others ) us, and they want out. That's unfortunate for us, but we can't actually stop them leaving.

    Should we leave with them, in the hope that they'll set up new single market with just little old us? No, that would be silly. Why leave an actual single market with 450 million people in it in the hope of possibly getting a single market with just 70 million people in it?

    Harry, send me your next month's paycheck, and if I like you there's a good chance that I'll send you back about 13% of it.


  • #32
    Arghus
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,655 ✭✭✭✭Arghus


    The Brexit Strikes Back.

    Brex' Wish.

    BrokeBrex Mountain.

    The Brexcorcist.

    Brexit Returns.

    A Clockwork Brexit.

    The Unbearable Lightness of Brexit.


  • #33
    Grayson
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,321 ✭✭✭✭Grayson


    Carry on Brexit.


  • #34
    JupiterKid
    Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators Posts: 12,897 Mod ✭✭✭✭JupiterKid


    Brexit II: Just when you thought it was safe to go back into negotiations.


  • #35
    Arghus
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,655 ✭✭✭✭Arghus


    There Will Be Brexit.


  • #36
    Cookie_Monster
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,522 ✭✭✭✭Cookie_Monster


    catbear wrote: »
    We actually trade more with the EU and also globally than we do with the UK.

    regardless its still a huge market that cannot be ignored
    catbear wrote: »
    Anyway how
    Brexit II, the Empire Strikes Back!

    heh, that works way better than 'brexit harder'


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  • #37
    Peregrinus
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26,703 ✭✭✭✭Peregrinus


    Cookie_Monster wrote: »
    regardless its still a huge market that cannot be ignored
    Absolutely nobody, on any side of the discussion, has suggested that we should ignore it.

    If and to the extent that we are forced to prioritise either of the UK and the EU-27 over the other, we should obviously prioritise the market which is several times larger, with which we already do much more trade.


  • #38
    FrancieBrady
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 70,080 ✭✭✭✭FrancieBrady


    Peregrinus wrote: »
    Absolutely nobody, on any side of the discussion, has suggested that we should ignore it.

    If and to the extent that we are forced to prioritise either of the UK and the EU-27 over the other, we should obviously prioritise the market which is several times larger, with which we already do much more trade.

    They most likely are not going to need as much anyway. A lot of what we supply would be premium products.
    I live in the heart of the Irish mushroom industry and they are in trouble already


  • #39
    Mr. CooL ICE
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,646 ✭✭✭✭Mr. CooL ICE


    Brexit At Tiffanys


  • #40
    steddyeddy
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 27,564 ✭✭✭✭steddyeddy


    https://www.theguardian.com/world/2016/oct/18/brexit-to-blast-huge-hole-in-northern-irelands-fragile-finances

    Looks like NI will lose 500 million a year from EU funding. 60% of its exports also go to the EU. I think a financial blackhole would be a good thing for Northern Irish politics. The UK subsidise NI to the tune of 20 billion a year. They have a massive black hole in their finances and yet Arlene Foster rejected the idea of an all Ireland forum which could have helped Northern Ireland. She rejected it based on hatred and not economics. This sort of politics needs to go or else NI is f%cked. It was f$cked before Brexit so hopefully now people will voted based on their economic well being.


  • #41
    FrancieBrady
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 70,080 ✭✭✭✭FrancieBrady


    steddyeddy wrote: »
    https://www.theguardian.com/world/2016/oct/18/brexit-to-blast-huge-hole-in-northern-irelands-fragile-finances

    Looks like NI will lose 500 million a year from EU funding. 60% of its exports also go to the EU. I think a financial blackhole would be a good thing for Northern Irish politics. The UK subsidise NI to the tune of 20 billion a year. They have a massive black hole in their finances and yet Arlene Foster rejected the idea of an all Ireland forum which could have helped Northern Ireland. She rejected it based on hatred and not economics. This sort of politics needs to go or else NI is f%cked. It was f$cked before Brexit so hopefully now people will voted based on their economic well being.

    It beggars belief that so called sensible people sat down around a table and devised policy that would take NI out of the EU.


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  • #42
    osarusan
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    Last Brexit to Brooklyn.


  • #43
    alchemist33
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    Fred Swanson wrote: »
    This post has been deleted.

    Can you imagine what would happen that sense of grievance that caused them to vote OUT if Parliament rejected the referendum result? I certainly wouldn't want to be a foreigner in the UK if that happened.


  • #44
    _Kaiser_
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 28,935 ✭✭✭✭_Kaiser_


    osarusan wrote: »
    Last Brexit to Brooklyn.

    Last Brexit to...

    .. ruin?
    .. profit??
    .. FREEDOM!!

    Nah, yours probably works better.. but mine are kinda valid too! :p

    But seriously.. I'd say there are a lot of other member states watching how this all pans out in the end and if the UK DOES come through it ok (after the dust has settled) we'll very likely see Nedxit and maybe Grexit will be back on the cards too.


  • #45
    MeatTwoVeg
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 861 ✭✭✭MeatTwoVeg


    Brexit and Brexiterer


  • #46
    steddyeddy
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 27,564 ✭✭✭✭steddyeddy


    FrancieBrady wrote: »
    It beggars belief that so called sensible people sat down around a table and devised policy that would take NI out of the EU.

    Arlene Foster is not sensible.


  • #47
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 0 ✭ [Deleted User]


    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BBi-KXc0CRk


  • #48
    Fred Swanson
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    This post has been deleted.


  • #49
    Harry Palmr
    Closed Accounts Posts: 40,061 ✭✭✭✭Harry Palmr


    Brexit Wounds

    BreXistenZ - the horror story of an alternative reality


  • #50
    osarusan
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,694 ✭✭✭✭osarusan


    Great Brexpectations.


  • #51
    Fred Swanson
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    This post has been deleted.


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