Brexit: The Last Stand (No name calling)

Peregrine

Play nice.

Old thread: http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2057613669

If you were banned from posting in the old thread, you're still banned from posting in this thread.

http://news.sky.com/story/how-long-until-britain-leaves-the-eu-live-countdown-10817397

dinorebel

Peregrine wrote: »

Play nice.

Old thread: http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2057613669

If you were banned from posting in the old thread, you're still banned from posting in this thread.

Good luck with that;)

Infini

U locked mah threeeeeeeeead!

tomwaterford wrote: »

What's the point in having a referendum if your just going to ignore the results


They fought a somewhat disastrous wars to bring democracy to the middle East....but will ignore it at home

Lets be clear here if the referendum was based on sound fact's from both sides it wouldn't be an issue but the fact is it was barely carried and alot of it was due to misinformation and because it was more seen as a protest vote as well. There's also the fact that the vote itself was deeply divisive across generations and territories and its a complete mess. The whole thing only started because it was the damn tories being stupid in the first place and blaming Europe for their own inadequacies. Now they risk the UK breaking up in the next decade because of it.

The only thing that might save them is if it's decided that parliament has to vote on triggering it and if things get bad enough beforehand there might be enough pressure on the MPs and enough shift in public opinion to basically say "screw this" and call it quits on this. The fall in the £ and the risk of prices rising across the board and job losses can swing things very quickly if it bites hard enough.

As for the middle east dont make anyone laugh that whole region is a cesspool filled with ignorance stupidity and Darwin Award State, they didnt exactly bring much democracy there only blew open pent up frustrastions. Russia and 'Murica aint making things any better but the place is a dump as it and it'll take a century or more or a nuclear war before they wise up and realise how stupid they are. Once the oil dries up out there they're screwed big time all that bad karma will come back to bite em.

frozenfrozen

I can't believe it's not brexit

Peregrine

Infini2 wrote: »

U locked mah threeeeeeeeead!

Dey tuk ar threds!

Ted_YNWA

but you'll never take their freedom

Harry Palmr

Looking at the coverage of the UK government briefing on Brexit, it looks like the penny is starting to stop (and not just in value!)

highgiant1985

I missed the first thread so apologises if this has already been discussed but something I'm interested in is if there is any likelihood of another referendum being called in the UK instead of the Britex process being triggered officially? Has there been any talk of that?

I only ask based on previous votes in Ireland such as the Nice or Lisbon treaty where by a referendum was run a second time and the people changed their mind.

The_Valeyard

Brexit v2?

Could we not call it 'The Brexiting'

FrancieBrady

highgiant1985 wrote: »

I missed the first thread so apologises if this has already been discussed but something I'm interested in is if there is any likelihood of another referendum being called in the UK instead of the Britex process being triggered officially? Has there been any talk of that?

I only ask based on previous votes in Ireland such as the Nice or Lisbon treaty where by a referendum was run a second time and the people changed their mind.

It has been suggested and ruled out by May.
Personally I wouldn't.

Junkyard Tom

Hopefully it won't harm the British economy too much because it'll be bad for all of us if it does.

steddyeddy

Junkyard Tom wrote: »

Hopefully it won't harm the British economy too much because it'll be bad for all of us if it does.

It will harm us either way I think. Hopefully lessons will be learned.

catbear

Junkyard Tom wrote: »

Hopefully it won't harm the British economy too much because it'll be bad for all of us if it does.

being politically attached to Britain was a disaster for us. brexit is the heave we need to break the lure of that easy market.

It would be wrong to waste a good crisis.

For Forks Sake

The_Valeyard wrote: »

Brexit v2?

Could we not call it 'The Brexiting'

Brexit Harder

Harry Palmr

catbear

Why would a small open economy wilfully decide to reject an English speaking economy of 62 million poeple right next door?

FrancieBrady

catbear wrote: »

being politically attached to Britain was a disaster for us. brexit is the heave we need to break the lure of that easy market.

It would be wrong to waste a good crisis.

A Britain going it alone will be more susceptible to boom and bust.
You are right we should start seeking to end us catching a cold every time it sneezes.

Junkyard Tom

catbear wrote: »

being politically attached to Britain was a disaster for us. brexit is the heave we need to break the lure of that easy market.

It would be wrong to waste a good crisis.

We're going to trade with a market of +60m people, only a few miles across the sea, one way or another. To think that we could avoid it is unrealistic.

More like "The Brexit saga - series II".

Peregrine

For Forks Sake wrote: »

Brexit Harder

Next one will be Brexit with a Vengeance.

Skylinehead

Peregrine wrote: »

Next one will be Brexit with a Vengeance.

Brexit Boogaloo

Grayson

Peregrine wrote: »

Next one will be Brexit with a Vengeance.

If we ever reach a good day to brexit hard I think I may just leave.

stimpson

Thread title had me hoping they decided to leave the UN.



I am disappoint.

FrancieBrady

Interesting point by Naomi Long on Spotlight, no secretary of state on the cabinet Brexit Committee.
Looks like it's gonna be like it or lump it come decision time. Whatever about NI, it seems impossible to avoid annoying the Scots.

catbear

Junkyard Tom wrote: »

catbear wrote: »

being politically attached to Britain was a disaster for us. brexit is the heave we need to break the lure of that easy market.

It would be wrong to waste a good crisis.

We're going to trade with a market of +60m people, only a few miles across the sea, one way or another. To think that we could avoid it is unrealistic.

We actually trade more with the EU and also globally than we do with the UK.

Anyway how
Brexit II, the Empire Strikes Back!

Fred Swanson

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FrancieBrady

The Brexit Chainsaw Massacree!

daithi7

Fred Swanson wrote: »

It will be interesting to see what the High Court and Supreme Courts rule on May's authority to trigger Article 50 without the consent of Parliament.

It could be what undoes this omni-shambles of a mess.

With any luck. Parliament will get their say surely, and if they do there must be a growing realisation there of what a complete cluster fxxx this really is.

Muahahaha

saving nice bobs on a car from the UK soon. And this Xmas should be sweet with sterling getting weaker. Enjoying Brexit so far.

outinthefields

BrexIn the Next Generation

Peregrinus

highgiant1985 wrote: »

I missed the first thread so apologises if this has already been discussed but something I'm interested in is if there is any likelihood of another referendum being called in the UK instead of the Britex process being triggered officially? Has there been any talk of that?

I only ask based on previous votes in Ireland such as the Nice or Lisbon treaty where by a referendum was run a second time and the people changed their mind.

Legally such a thing would be possible. Politically, however, it's a non-starter. If political circumstances change it could happen in the future, but I really don't think we're talking about the near future.

Peregrinus

Harry Palmr wrote: »

catbear

Why would a small open economy wilfully decide to reject an English speaking economy of 62 million poeple right next door?

It's they who are dong the rejecting, surely? Right now they're in a single market with (among others ) us, and they want out. That's unfortunate for us, but we can't actually stop them leaving.

Should we leave with them, in the hope that they'll set up new single market with just little old us? No, that would be silly. Why leave an actual single market with 450 million people in it in the hope of possibly getting a single market with just 70 million people in it?

Harry, send me your next month's paycheck, and if I like you there's a good chance that I'll send you back about 13% of it.

Arghus

The Brexit Strikes Back.

Brex' Wish.

BrokeBrex Mountain.

The Brexcorcist.

Brexit Returns.

A Clockwork Brexit.

The Unbearable Lightness of Brexit.

Grayson

Carry on Brexit.

JupiterKid

Brexit II: Just when you thought it was safe to go back into negotiations.

Arghus

There Will Be Brexit.

Cookie_Monster

catbear wrote: »

We actually trade more with the EU and also globally than we do with the UK.

regardless its still a huge market that cannot be ignored

catbear wrote: »

Anyway how
Brexit II, the Empire Strikes Back!

heh, that works way better than 'brexit harder'

Peregrinus

Cookie_Monster wrote: »

regardless its still a huge market that cannot be ignored

Absolutely nobody, on any side of the discussion, has suggested that we should ignore it.

If and to the extent that we are forced to prioritise either of the UK and the EU-27 over the other, we should obviously prioritise the market which is several times larger, with which we already do much more trade.

FrancieBrady

Peregrinus wrote: »

Absolutely nobody, on any side of the discussion, has suggested that we should ignore it.

If and to the extent that we are forced to prioritise either of the UK and the EU-27 over the other, we should obviously prioritise the market which is several times larger, with which we already do much more trade.

They most likely are not going to need as much anyway. A lot of what we supply would be premium products.
I live in the heart of the Irish mushroom industry and they are in trouble already

Mr. CooL ICE

Brexit At Tiffanys

steddyeddy

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2016/oct/18/brexit-to-blast-huge-hole-in-northern-irelands-fragile-finances

Looks like NI will lose 500 million a year from EU funding. 60% of its exports also go to the EU. I think a financial blackhole would be a good thing for Northern Irish politics. The UK subsidise NI to the tune of 20 billion a year. They have a massive black hole in their finances and yet Arlene Foster rejected the idea of an all Ireland forum which could have helped Northern Ireland. She rejected it based on hatred and not economics. This sort of politics needs to go or else NI is f%cked. It was f$cked before Brexit so hopefully now people will voted based on their economic well being.

FrancieBrady

steddyeddy wrote: »

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2016/oct/18/brexit-to-blast-huge-hole-in-northern-irelands-fragile-finances

Looks like NI will lose 500 million a year from EU funding. 60% of its exports also go to the EU. I think a financial blackhole would be a good thing for Northern Irish politics. The UK subsidise NI to the tune of 20 billion a year. They have a massive black hole in their finances and yet Arlene Foster rejected the idea of an all Ireland forum which could have helped Northern Ireland. She rejected it based on hatred and not economics. This sort of politics needs to go or else NI is f%cked. It was f$cked before Brexit so hopefully now people will voted based on their economic well being.

It beggars belief that so called sensible people sat down around a table and devised policy that would take NI out of the EU.

osarusan

Last Brexit to Brooklyn.

alchemist33

Fred Swanson wrote: »

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Can you imagine what would happen that sense of grievance that caused them to vote OUT if Parliament rejected the referendum result? I certainly wouldn't want to be a foreigner in the UK if that happened.

_Kaiser_

osarusan wrote: »

Last Brexit to Brooklyn.

Last Brexit to...

.. ruin?
.. profit??
.. FREEDOM!!

Nah, yours probably works better.. but mine are kinda valid too!

But seriously.. I'd say there are a lot of other member states watching how this all pans out in the end and if the UK DOES come through it ok (after the dust has settled) we'll very likely see Nedxit and maybe Grexit will be back on the cards too.

MeatTwoVeg

Brexit and Brexiterer

steddyeddy

FrancieBrady wrote: »

It beggars belief that so called sensible people sat down around a table and devised policy that would take NI out of the EU.

Arlene Foster is not sensible.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BBi-KXc0CRk

Fred Swanson

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Harry Palmr

Brexit Wounds

BreXistenZ - the horror story of an alternative reality

osarusan

Great Brexpectations.

Fred Swanson

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