Where are we going for protein?

Mellor · 22-06-2021 1:46am

markmoto wrote: »

Sure lol

Not really sure what that has to do with whey protein. Whey isn't banned.
It's not really clear what you are implying tbh. Do you have a link to this report? Might clarify what you are getting at.

The WADA list is relevant for athletes. It's meaningless for non-athletes. It's not a assessment of health or safety btw. Many normal supplements, and everyday OTC medications area banned for athletes for various reasons.
It's not just illegal hormones and the like.

italodisco · 22-06-2021 2:04am

markmoto wrote: »

Sure lol

A friend works in customs, he's also bodybuilding over 20 years and is very knowledgeable about steds etc and was saying that the stuff that tests positive for contamination tends to be pro hormones / designer hormones, it's a case of the IMB not knowing thats what they are and making statements referring to them as 'contaminated vitamins / protein supplements.

I brought 100 ampoules of testosterone back from Egypt years ago in my suitcase, bought from a pharmacy, and got questioned in Dublin and said it was hair loss stuff and I that i was heading back for a hair transplant in 6 months.

Walked out with the lot!!!

markmoto · 22-06-2021 2:17am

Mellor wrote: »

Not really sure what that has to do with whey protein. Whey isn't banned.
It's not really clear what you are implying tbh. Do you have a link to this report? Might clarify what you are getting at.

The WADA list is relevant for athletes. It's meaningless for non-athletes. It's not a assessment of health or safety btw. Many normal supplements, and everyday OTC medications area banned for athletes for various reasons.
It's not just illegal hormones and the like.

Not saying whey protein is banned, rather absolutely useless form of supplement.
Protein powder processed supplement comes as package batch to batch might get contaminated with variety of stuff not even printed on label.

Many people think starting a fitness journey goes hand in hand with a heavy supplement stack, but for the majority of people, supplements are not even necessary.
Buying BCAAs thinking this will help them look leaner quicker when, in reality, the main focus should be on consistency with nutrition and proper food.

Dtp1979 · 22-06-2021 6:09am

markmoto wrote: »

First decent post
I actually thought for a while you loved that stuff

I was obviously joking

Mellor · 22-06-2021 6:43am

markmoto wrote: »

Not saying whey protein is banned, rather absolutely useless form of supplement

Do you have any evidence that you've based this absolutely nonsense opinion on. Or are you just trying to completely you credibility?

Whey is a natural occur dairy protein. It's just food, not magic.

Protein powder processed supplement comes as package batch to batch might get contaminated with variety of stuff not even printed on label.

An apple, a natural fruit, products applied to it that are not listed on an ingredient list. That apple could also be contaminated. In fact, there are fresh food recalls all the time for salmonella, e.coli etc.

Many people think starting a fitness journey goes hand in hand with a heavy supplement stack, but for the majority of people, supplements are not even necessary.

Very few people think that. Even if they do, nobody here is suggesting that. Once again your ramblings are irrelevant.

Buying BCAAs thinking this will help them look leaner quicker when, in reality, the main focus should be on consistency with nutrition and proper food.

BCAAs don't make you leaner, and nobody suggests that is the purpose.
You really need to educate yourself on this really basic stuff before commenting.

Also BCAA are not necessary. That does not mean they are useless.
Something isn't required to be necessary for it to have a benefit.

Alf Veedersane · 22-06-2021 7:27am

markmoto wrote: »

Not saying whey protein is banned, rather absolutely useless form of supplement.
Protein powder processed supplement comes as package batch to batch might get contaminated with variety of stuff not even printed on label.

Many people think starting a fitness journey goes hand in hand with a heavy supplement stack, but for the majority of people, supplements are not even necessary.
Buying BCAAs thinking this will help them look leaner quicker when, in reality, the main focus should be on consistency with nutrition and proper food.

What does it get contaminated with that isn't on the label?

You've already been told that the two main whey supplement brands are certified by Informed Sport as well, so doesn't really hold up.

You have been probably the only one in this forum that has mentioned BCAAs in a long time here. One other person maybe. No one else is going on about BCAAs.

italodisco · 22-06-2021 10:07am

Alf Veedersane wrote: »

What does it get contaminated with that isn't on the label?

You've already been told that the two main whey supplement brands are certified by Informed Sport as well, so doesn't really hold up.

You have been probably the only one in this forum that has mentioned BCAAs in a long time here. One other person maybe. No one else is going on about BCAAs.

Bulk powders used to sell novocaine on the sly if you contacted them directly, not a great endorsement really

Alf Veedersane · 22-06-2021 12:59pm

italodisco wrote: »

Bulk powders used to sell novocaine on the sly if you contacted them directly, not a great endorsement really

How long ago is 'used to'?

https://sport.wetestyoutrust.com/supplement-search/brand/bulk-powders

"Presence of the Informed Sport supplement certification quality mark on product packaging demonstrates to athletes and consumers that every batch of a product has been tested for substances prohibited in sport and that the product was made in an environment with quality systems appropriate for the stringent demands of sports nutrition manufacturing."

I've only ever used them for whey. The above is sufficient for me.

Brian? · 25-06-2021 7:47am

markmoto wrote: »

Sure lol

Mod Note: Markmoto don't post in this thread again

Mjolnir · 26-06-2021 9:17am

Wow some people really don't understand thermodynamics, or what wadas list is for.
Whats myprotein like compared to on and olimp in terms of taste and mixing.

Alf Veedersane · 26-06-2021 9:30am

Mjolnir wrote: »

Whats myprotein like compared to on and olimp in terms of taste and mixing.

Admittedly, I haven't had anything from MyProtein in a while but I tried it after ON and didn't find any noticeable difference in mixing. Preferred the taste to ON, from memory, albeit only had vanilla of either. Found ON to be slightly too sweet, from memory. Well, I found the slightly less sweet taste of MP to be preferable but that's just a subjective thing anyway.

Mjolnir · 26-06-2021 9:36am

Alf Veedersane wrote: »

Admittedly, I haven't had anything from MyProtein in a while but I tried it after ON and didn't find any noticeable difference in mixing. Preferred the taste to ON, from memory, albeit only had vanilla of either. Found ON to be slightly too sweet, from memory. Well, I found the slightly less sweet taste of MP to be preferable but that's just a subjective thing anyway.

Ah I'd usually stick to strawberry or vanilla because they are the hardest to mess up ha.
Interesting that they are similar quality given the price of myprotein

Alf Veedersane · 26-06-2021 10:07am

Mjolnir wrote: »

Ah I'd usually stick to strawberry or vanilla because they are the hardest to mess up ha.
Interesting that they are similar quality given the price of myprotein

I did go for ON for quite some time because I didnt want to spend money on something that was likely to be much poorer by comparison but I gave it a go and found the taste and mixing to be not too dissimilar.

That and the nutritional profile not being a million miles apart were the reason I switched. I remember seeing something on reddit about the protein content on labels versus tested by (no idea if it was just a pet project of someone or what) and both came out pretty well.

I have tried others that were awful though. I didn't realise how much of a mess you could make of something like whey that I'd be binning it but some found a way.

Macy0161 · 26-06-2021 5:32pm

Generally I buy (5kg) MyProtein Vanilla. However, I think I'm converted to Salted Caramel now (that was my last order top up). It is mint with greek yogurt!

Alf Veedersane · 26-06-2021 7:42pm

Macy0161 wrote: »

Generally I buy (5kg) MyProtein Vanilla. However, I think I'm converted to Salted Caramel now (that was my last order top up). It is mint with greek yogurt!

Greek yoghurt is the genuinely the only reason I get whey

Alf Veedersane · 26-06-2021 11:01pm

OmegaGene wrote: »

What do you folks do with Greek the yoghurt just mix the two together ?
My last bag was chocolate peanut butter and it’s rank with water unless it’s almost frozen

Yeah just mix it through. Probably need to like the flavour though but worth a whirl

Macy0161 · 27-06-2021 1:10am

OmegaGene wrote: »

What do you folks do with Greek the yoghurt just mix the two together ?
My last bag was chocolate peanut butter and it’s rank with water unless it’s almost frozen

100g of Greek yogurt, 25g/ scoop of whey for me, just mixed.

c.p.w.g.w · 29-06-2021 12:48pm

Hopefully someone can help me out here...

I'm looking for a protein powder that is free from...
-Soya
-Sweeteners(Sucralose, Asparatime, Malitol, sorbitol etc)

Sweetners such as Stevia, Erythritol or Xylitol are ok

Oh and an animal based protein powder, no plant based stuff

Patsy167 · 29-06-2021 2:09pm

c.p.w.g.w wrote: »

Hopefully someone can help me out here...

I'm looking for a protein powder that is free from...
-Soya
-Sweeteners(Sucralose, Asparatime, Malitol, sorbitol etc)

Sweetners such as Stevia, Erythritol or Xylitol are ok

Oh and an animal based protein powder, no plant based stuff

Either of these might be worth considering:

https://www.myprotein.ie/sports-nutrition/egg-white-powder/10529687.html

https://www.myprotein.ie/sports-nutrition/hydrolysed-beef-protein/10902405.html
Unflavoured: Hydrolyzed Beef Protein (99%), Thickener (Xanthan Gum)

You may need to add some sort of flavouring to these to make them palatable

Mellor · 29-06-2021 2:37pm

Patsy167 wrote: »

Either of these might be worth considering:

https://www.myprotein.ie/sports-nutrition/egg-white-powder/10529687.html

https://www.myprotein.ie/sports-nutrition/hydrolysed-beef-protein/10902405.html
Unflavoured: Hydrolyzed Beef Protein (99%), Thickener (Xanthan Gum)

You may need to add some sort of flavouring to these to make them palatable

It would be a lot easier to pick up a unsweetened (or naturally sweetened) whey from My Protein,

https://www.myprotein.ie/sports-nutrition/impact-whey-protein/10530943.html

Patsy167 · 29-06-2021 3:42pm

c.p.w.g.w wrote: »

Hopefully someone can help me out here...

I'm looking for a protein powder that is free from...
-Soya
-Sweeteners(Sucralose, Asparatime, Malitol, sorbitol etc)

Sweetners such as Stevia, Erythritol or Xylitol are ok

Oh and an animal based protein powder, no plant based stuff

Mellor wrote: »

It would be a lot easier to pick up a unsweetened (or naturally sweetened) whey from My Protein,

https://www.myprotein.ie/sports-nutrition/impact-whey-protein/10530943.html

This was my first thought but the OP may have a soy intolerance that would rule it out.

Unflavoured: Whey Protein Concentrate (Milk) (100%), Emulsifier (Soy Lecithin)

edit: Looking closer, Soy Lecithin may not be a show stopper though -

"soy lecithin is a lipid derivative of soy that contains only trace amounts of soy protein. It is commonly used as an emulsifier in processed foods."

"As a result, most allergists do not advise patients with soy allergy to avoid soy lecithin. But given the two incidents of hives after your daughter ate food containing this additive, be sure to discuss this further with her allergist."

https://www.allergicliving.com/experts/is-it-safe-for-those-with-a-soy-allergy-to-consume-soy-lecithin/

italodisco · 29-06-2021 3:46pm

Collagen protein will do the trick.

I can't use whey or soy unless I want to spend the day on the toilet.

Collagen protein from bulk or myprotein does the job.

Mellor · 29-06-2021 4:25pm

Patsy167 wrote: »

This was my first thought but the OP may have a soy intolerance that would rule it out.

Unflavoured: Whey Protein Concentrate (Milk) (100%), Emulsifier (Soy Lecithin)

They had a tread about it recently. No mention of intolerance. I think they just find the standard on very sweet.

c.p.w.g.w · 29-06-2021 7:20pm

italodisco wrote: »

Collagen protein will do the trick.

I can't use whey or soy unless I want to spend the day on the toilet.

Collagen protein from bulk or myprotein does the job.

How does one flavour it?

c.p.w.g.w · 29-06-2021 7:21pm

Mellor wrote: »

They had a tread about it recently. No mention of intolerance. I think they just find the standard on very sweet.

I only commented on a thread about, soy lecithin...

The soy lecithin isn't an issue for me, it's the actual soya protein that some add in

29-06-2021 7:50pm

c.p.w.g.w wrote: »

How does one flavour it?

https://www.bulk.com/ie/liquiflav.html

I find those grand

Diceicle · 29-06-2021 9:56pm

OmegaGene wrote: »

What do you folks do with Greek the yoghurt just mix the two together ?
My last bag was chocolate peanut butter and it’s rank with water unless it’s almost frozen

Choc Peannu from Bulk Powders? I really like that favour. Think it tastes like Blondies (the cake)

c.p.w.g.w · 29-06-2021 10:40pm

Brixton Chubby Apparel wrote: »

https://www.bulk.com/ie/liquiflav.html

I find those grand

Those buyos use sucralose

29-06-2021 10:48pm

c.p.w.g.w wrote: »

Those buyos use sucralose

Forgot your earlier post soz!

Mellor · 30-06-2021 4:10am

c.p.w.g.w wrote: »

I only commented on a thread about, soy lecithin...

The soy lecithin isn't an issue for me, it's the actual soya protein that some add in

Sorry I mixed you up with a poster who asked the exact same thing in a thread last week.

Stand by my suggestion though. Not sure why people are complicating it by projecting soy intolerances, or their dairy issued on to you.

What's wrong with plain old whey protein?
In natural or stevia flavours obvs.

https://www.myprotein.ie/sports-nutrition/impact-whey-protein/10530943.html

c.p.w.g.w · 30-06-2021 12:39pm

Mellor wrote: »

Sorry I mixed you up with a poster who asked the exact same thing in a thread last week.

Stand by my suggestion though. Not sure why people are complicating it by projecting soy intolerances, or their dairy issued on to you.

What's wrong with plain old whey protein?
In natural or stevia flavours obvs.

https://www.myprotein.ie/sports-nutrition/impact-whey-protein/10530943.html

Was looking at bulkpowders Stevia Sweetened protein, but it's a blend of soya and whey from the ingredient list

Mellor · 30-06-2021 1:53pm

c.p.w.g.w wrote: »

Was looking at bulkpowders Stevia Sweetened protein, but it's a blend of soya and whey from the ingredient list

The one I linked is whey protein concentrate.

Stevia Strawberry Flavour:
Whey Protein Concentrate (Milk) (96%), Emulsifier (Soy Lecithin), Flavouring, Colour (Beetroot Red), Sweetener (Steviol Glycosides)

c.p.w.g.w · 30-06-2021 2:15pm

Mellor wrote: »

The one I linked is whey protein concentrate.

Apologizes, I only looked at the first 12 or so flavours(all of which had sucralose) but my word that's a lot of flavours

Thank you sir

Black Sheep · 15-07-2021 9:18am

I bought a couple of kilos of MyProtein. Seems to arrive within 5-6 days of ordering now (to Dublin).

Whenever I see "new and improved flavour" I always buy it in the drop-down list of flavours. I'm convinced it's a marketing ploy, it always tastes indistinguishable from the last batch as far as I can tell, no matter the flavour.

Sometimes the "out there" flavours can be surprisingly good. Eton Mess is a better strawberry flavour than strawberry itself... The Pastel de nata is also really good, kind of a cookie dough / batter flavour.

Macy0161 · 15-07-2021 9:33am

https://boards.ie/discussion/comment/117606631#Comment_117606631

I haven't paid anything more, or it's been marginal - no different than before Brexit, you just have to hold off (if you can) for the fairly regular 45% or 50% off.

silverharp · 15-07-2021 8:55pm

my Protein 5KG €44.56 including delivery today

WhiteMemento9 · 02-08-2021 3:33pm

What are the best alternatives to my protein? Ordered from them over two weeks ago and still nothing. Contacted support who said that delivery can take 21 days. This seems ridiculous. I don't mind paying more elsewhere for a better delivery time?

caviardreams · 02-08-2021 10:30pm

HPNutrition are very good with delivery - will be significantly dearer than myprotein but it will come the next day in my experience. Some decent prices at times on the likes of ON etc. €48 for 2.2kg, PES Select 1.8kg for €40 and free delivery over €50 think.

Alf Veedersane · 02-08-2021 10:34pm

I've had decent delivery times with Bulk this side of Brexit also

Patsy167 · 03-08-2021 8:49am

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/117695418#Comment_117695418

I know it's not much consolation but I've never heard any issues like this before with MyProtein. I would get in touch with them to see whether somethings gone wrong in the background.

silverharp · 03-08-2021 10:32am

seems to have gone very slow, my order with MyProtein is with customs since about the 25th July

Macy0161 · 03-08-2021 10:33am

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/117698045#Comment_117698045

I had one that was slow, and it was to do with the free hand sanitizer! But that was back at the start of the year iirc.

WhiteMemento9 · 03-08-2021 11:41am

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/117698438#Comment_117698438

I ordered on the 19th.

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/117698045#Comment_117698045

They just said the order had been sent by them and tough luck it can take up to 21 days. Get back in touch with us then if it still has not arrived after this timeframe. I won't be ordering from them again.

1123heavy · 03-08-2021 2:44pm

I have always ordered from bulk powders, never had any issues until now.

Ordered on the 23rd July and it was dispatched immediately but never received it. 4 days ago I got an email apologising for the delay saying they are no longer allowed to ship animal products >2kg to Ireland. It was stopped at the FedEx facility in Basildon and sent back to Bulk.

They told me they are working on a solution but have said a refund is being actioned - critically low on the whey .. about 3/4 scoops left.

silverharp · 03-08-2021 2:55pm

at least my one seems to be in Ireland

"Jul 30, 2021, 14:12 GMT+1

Hi

Thank you for contacting Fastway Couriers.

This is currently in our Central Sorting Hub awaiting full customs clearance.

If you keep updated on www.fastway.ie tracking and it will provide you with any additional information. This should be out to you over the next 24 to 48 hours.

Let me know if I can assist with anything else"

DaveyDave · 03-08-2021 3:25pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/117698854#Comment_117698854

This is standard practice. Most places will say wait up to 28 days to allow it time to arrive before refunding. Delayed parcels will usually arrive in that time frame, if it doesn't arrive after 28 days it's actually lost or misdelivered and they can issue a refund.

Otherwise everyone would be asking for a refund after a week. Bit childish to not shop somewhere because the delivery company have misplaced it.

WhiteMemento9 · 03-08-2021 6:17pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/117700142#Comment_117700142

I don't want to wait 3/4 weeks for something I can easily get elsewhere without that wait time. This looks like an issue a few people are/have had with them recently. So I think it is perfectly reasonable to look somewhere else more reliable for future purchases of a product many other companies sell. I don't see what is childish about that at all. Should I just keep ordering in the hopes things might be better next time or just go with someone I know will deliver it within a reasonable timeframe? I get that Brexit is causing some logistical problems so my hope when I originally posted was to find a company delivering from an Irish warehouse.

Esse85 · 03-08-2021 10:33pm

Ordered over €100 worth of products from MyProtein, delivery date was expected to be July 21 - 23

Looking at the tracking, it says July 25th, Arrived in Country.

I just contacted MP tonight about this. Based on the replies ye got, I except I'll be told to wait it out another few weeks which is not ideal.

el Fenomeno · 04-08-2021 1:54pm

I was just on to support who said my order (which has only been showing as "Departed The Hut" on 26 July and no update since) will be delivered by Friday, so fingers crossed.

I've also opened a PayPal dispute in the meantime, as is standard when an item has not been received by the expected delivery date.

Esse85 · 05-08-2021 1:00pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/117702248#Comment_117702248

Thank you for getting in touch to let us know that you have not yet received order 311XYZ

Please note that we are experiencing minor delays with deliveries to Ireland due to customs, however, we are actively working to get this resolved.

This was sent to you on 17-07-2021 and delivery can take up to 21 days.

If you have still not received your order within the mentioned timeframe, please let us know so that we can resolve this for you.

Thank you for your patience.

In the meantime, if there is anything else that we can do, then please do not hesitate to get in touch and a member of our team will be happy to help.

Where are we going for protein?

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