Interesting Maps

IAMAMORON · 12-11-2020 11:53am

Hibernia

IAMAMORON · 12-11-2020 11:56am

Albion & Hibernia

jogdish · 12-11-2020 11:57am

Got ' All over the map ' a great (coffee table) book full of various interesting maps.

IAMAMORON · 12-11-2020 11:59am

This looks possibly early Norman, I stand to be corrected.

IAMAMORON · 12-11-2020 12:08pm

Cill Mhantáin

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IAMAMORON · 12-11-2020 12:17pm

Confederacy Rebellion of 1641 - 11 years war.

Duffy the Vampire Slayer · 12-11-2020 2:38pm

humberklog wrote: »

Are you sure they weren't saying "Three Guys" and not Tesco?

Fairly sure the Tesco name only came into Ireland in '97 but Crazy Prices (Quinnsworth) took over the Three Guys shops and they were still commonly referred to as that or Gubays.*

HWilliams took over Three Guys first but that didn't last long.

There were a few Tesco shops in Ireland in the 70s and 80s. One was in Westside in Galway.

BonnieSituation · 12-11-2020 3:27pm

Duffy the Vampire Slayer wrote: »

There were a few Tesco shops in Ireland in the 70s and 80s. One was in Westside in Galway.

Thanks!

That extra piece of info led me to find this:

https://www.skyscrapercity.com/threads/supermarkets-of-times-past.1373113/

https://www.emerald.com/insight/content/doi/10.1108/eb018304/full/html?skipTracking=true

Seems they bought 3Guys in 1979 and left in 1986. Phew.

Duffy the Vampire Slayer · 12-11-2020 4:27pm

I was very surprised to learn that there was once a Tesco in Westside (It's now a Dunne's), but everyone who lived in Galway in those years could remember it.

BonnieSituation · 12-11-2020 4:29pm

Duffy the Vampire Slayer wrote: »

I was very surprised to learn that there was once a Tesco in Westside (It's now a Dunne's), but everyone who lived in Galway in those years could remember it.

Yeah. I'm too young to have ever seen the original Tesco in Ballyer as I was only 2 when they left, but it was always just referred to as Tesco even when Quinnsworth was there. It was still referred to as Quinnsworth when it changed to Crazy Prices and when Tesco Ireland came in.

Seth Brundle · 12-11-2020 4:43pm

source on twitter

BonnieSituation · 12-11-2020 5:25pm

I'm assuming a lot on here have been keeping up with the antics across the pond and as such have become rather au fait with the composition of counties in some states.

So with that I'd thought I would share an anomaly that ha annoyed me for a while.

Iowa

Iowa has 99 counties.

Now some of you might be all, "so what?", and that would be fair I guess, but it's only when you look at a map of Iowa that you see the annoying thing about why there are 99 counties...

See it...?

Fifth county in from the left...

Yeah, Kossuth County. Gah.

There was in fact a 100th county called Crocker County (1870-1871).

Wikipedia wrote:

In 1870, the Iowa General Assembly created Crocker County from the northern part of Kossuth County. The county seat was located at Greenwood, Iowa. In December 1871, the Iowa Supreme Court declared the act creating this county a violation of the constitution, which in article eleven declares that no new county shall be created which contains less than 432 square miles. As Crocker County was smaller than the law allowed for, it ceased to exist from and after the rendition of that decision and the twelve townships in its territory reverted to Kossuth County

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_counties_in_Iowa

So there ya go.

IAMAMORON · 12-11-2020 5:52pm

Capt'n Midnight · 12-11-2020 11:09pm

ohnonotgmail · 12-11-2020 11:14pm

^^^^^^^^^^^^^
You can see why traveling west to california was such a big deal

Capt'n Midnight · 12-11-2020 11:28pm

ohnonotgmail wrote: »

^^^^^^^^^^^^^
You can see why traveling west to california was such a big deal

The other options where to cut across Panama. Except it wasn't Panama. And there wasn't a canal.

Or rounding the horn. Sailing through some of the worst weather at the bottom of south America.

igCorcaigh · 12-11-2020 11:31pm

Capt'n Midnight wrote: »

The other options where to cut across Panama. Except it wasn't Panama. And there wasn't a canal.

Or rounding the horn. Sailing through some of the worst weather at the bottom of south America.

Interesting. Is that why there was a "wild west"?
Did the native population seek refuge there?

Capt'n Midnight · 13-11-2020 12:17am

igCorcaigh wrote: »

Interesting. Is that why there was a "wild west"?
Did the native population seek refuge there?

"To hell or to Connaught"

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Only if by seek refuge you mean forcefully evicted time and time again from land given to them by treaty with the US. In total there were about about 370 treaties and the US broke every single one of them.

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The Trail of Tears. Notice how different from Florida the reservations were.

The Choctaw Nation donated $170 to famine relief in Ireland a little later on.

More on the earlier history here. If you go back further you can see how the Puritans treated the original inhabitants who saved them from starving that first winter.
https://www.history.com/news/native-american-land-british-colonies

went to this

And there was French funded War that led to the US Independence and end of controls from England and tearing up of treaties and annexing those areas.

Back to the question. Many of the areas in the West were not states so no laws or law enforcement. Wild. Oddly enough the murder rate was higher in the Eastern cities at the time. Gangs of New York etc.

IAMAMORON · 13-11-2020 1:20am

Charles Babbage · 13-11-2020 12:39pm

ohnonotgmail wrote: »

^^^^^^^^^^^^^
You can see why traveling west to california was such a big deal

Yep, as the Donner family found out if you didn't set off at the right time then you would still be in the mountains when winter came.

When building the transcontinental railroad (e.g. in the TV series Hell of Wheels with Colm Meaney), the Irish lads were building at a rate of knots across the prairie while at the California end they had huge engineering challenges to get up over the mountains.

Dyr · 13-11-2020 1:06pm

Gregor Samsa wrote: »

The Garda Traffic School was this track of miniature fake road in Clontarf that used to be used to teach kids about road safety. There were pedal carts and bicycles, and the track had junctions and traffic lights. You’d be brought for a class trip, and a Garda would give you a lecture on stopping at red lights and not getting hit by cars, then you’d be let loose on the track to cause mayhem.

I remember being told to put your foot out on the road to show that you're about to cross, I did this and got my foot ran over by my classmate in a pedal cart, I ran after him and hit him a boot which started a barney between us on the road, I'm not sure if the Guard was called for but our Teacher was furious. Another dark day in the annals of our schools short history when we caused multiple Road Traffic Accidents and road rage incidents at the Traffic School

Duffy the Vampire Slayer · 13-11-2020 1:14pm

Capt'n Midnight wrote: »

The other options where to cut across Panama. Except it wasn't Panama. And there wasn't a canal.

Or rounding the horn. Sailing through some of the worst weather at the bottom of south America.

When Colombia still ruled Panama, they thought about making Panama City the national capital as it had better access to the sea than Bogotá, which is high in the mountains and far from any rivers. They decided against it because it was too difficult to defend from foreign invasion.

Charles Babbage · 13-11-2020 3:43pm

Bambi wrote: »

I remember being told to put your foot out on the road to show that you're about to cross, I did this and got my foot ran over by my classmate in a pedal cart, I ran after him and hit him a boot which started a barney between us on the road, I'm not sure if the Guard was called for but our Teacher was furious. Another dark day in the annals of our schools short history when we caused multiple Road Traffic Accidents and road rage incidents at the Traffic School

Was this you?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lNO90cesLpo

greenttc · 15-11-2020 10:40am

BonnieSituation wrote: »

Anyway, as I have mentioned above thread on several occasions I'm a serious map nerd and I am a GIS Analyst by trade, so it kinda comes with the territory. Anyway, I don't know how interesting this would be for most, but I love the RIA and their lecture series' when I can get to them the odd time and I ESPECIALLY love when they are when they are based on historical geography and cartography so I'll be "attending" this lecture with great enthusiasm.

https://www.eventbrite.ie/e/man-maps-and-map-history-john-andrews-19272019-registration-127991450875

Anyway, I would certainly recommend anyone with any interest in mapping and the history of same to sign up.

Arnold Horner! One of my UCD lecturers, he was like a teddy bear, would love to listen to him now as a more appreciative adult, I kind of found his soft tone hard to listen to as a teenager/early 20s student. There was always a little glint of humour though. Thanks for sharing this!

Quantum Erasure · 15-11-2020 9:45pm

SpaceX Crew1 launches tonight at 00:27 Irish time, map showing mission abort landing zones, and the Downrange Abort Exclusion Zone,

Quantum Erasure · 16-11-2020 12:58am

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Discuss.

Quantum Erasure · 16-11-2020 2:37am

Cavan goes to hurl, 51 to 49. but they don't count, really... (or maybe they are are impartial observers?)

ShatterAlan · 16-11-2020 2:50am

Capt'n Midnight wrote: »

The other options where to cut across Panama. Except it wasn't Panama. And there wasn't a canal.

Or rounding the horn. Sailing through some of the worst weather at the bottom of south America.

I think what is modern day Arizona and New Mexico, and Mexico in general is fairly flat. Hilly in places but not mountainous.

BonnieSituation · 16-11-2020 3:17am

Quantum Erasure wrote: »

Cavan goes to hurl, 51 to 49. but they don't count, really... (or maybe they are are impartial observers?)

Not fielding a senior team in either sport should lock you out of both. I'm looking at you Kilkenny.

ShatterAlan · 16-11-2020 3:23am

MY BAD wrote: »

I've no idea how accurate the data is in this map. But I thought Ireland would be the highest

I'm surprised Germany isn't higher. They eat potatoes with every meal. Brotkartoffeln, which are fried potatoes or they also eat those stodgy potato dumplings. The Dutch and Belgians are huge spud heads too so their numbes make sense.

I'd say the UK numbers are so high because of the amount of chips they eat.

There was a time when I would say growing up that I would have had potatoes with dinner everyday. But I think nowadays pasta or rice might have crept into one or two weekly dinners.

MY BAD · 16-11-2020 7:57am

Victor · 16-11-2020 9:08am

Quantum Erasure wrote: »

Discuss.

PNG retains fine detail much better than JPG.

16-11-2020 10:15am

Quantum Erasure wrote: »

Cavan goes to hurl, 51 to 49. but they don't count, really... (or maybe they are are impartial observers?)

Must be a few years old now looking at Offaly. Need a Joe McDonagh added.

16-11-2020 10:22am

(Paint doesn't fill very well)

blackwhite · 16-11-2020 12:11pm

Quantum Erasure wrote: »

Cavan goes to hurl, 51 to 49. but they don't count, really... (or maybe they are are impartial observers?)

That's more than a bit out of date that this stage.

McDonagh cup is missing, and counties have moved between the grades quite a bit since then

IAMAMORON · 16-11-2020 1:54pm

ReginaldSmythV wrote: »

(Paint doesn't fill very well)

May I ask for a brief explanation here, what are the colours indicating for starters?

16-11-2020 4:08pm

IAMAMORON wrote: »

May I ask for a brief explanation here, what are the colours indicating for starters?

Yellow Liam, blue Joe, green Christy, red Nicky, grey Lory. I think. The competitions were all a bit messed up for 2020.

Biafranlivemat · 17-11-2020 1:26am

ShatterAlan wrote: »

I think what is modern day Arizona and New Mexico, and Mexico in general is fairly flat. Hilly in places but not mountainous.

A lot of those hills in New Mexico are volcanoes, the last one to erupt was only 3000 years ago and considered dormant.
http://nmnaturalhistory.org/volcanoes/new-mexico-land-volcanoes

Shedite27 · 17-11-2020 10:48am

ShatterAlan wrote: »

I think what is modern day Arizona and New Mexico, and Mexico in general is fairly flat. Hilly in places but not mountainous.

I went skiing in Arizona once. It has mountains alright. Gets up to about 4,000m. There's a town alongside it called Flagstaff that is a famous high altitude training camp for athletes

BonnieSituation · 17-11-2020 4:15pm

Just a quick reminder that this is tonight for anyone interested:

RIA wrote:

A lecture by Arnold Horner in honour of the life and work of John Andrews, cartographic historian and geographer.
About this Event
A lecture by Arnold Horner in honour of the life and work of John Andrews, cartographic historian and geographer, who died on 15 November 2019. With a short response by Keith Lilley.

This lecture will be presented live on YouTube. Register to attend and you will receive a link in advance. There will not be the option to comment or ask questions during the event. The link will be made available after the event.

John Andrews was a pioneer and leading expert in studies of the history of cartography (map-making) in Ireland. He taught geography at Trinity College Dublin between 1954 and 1990, becoming Associate Professor in 1977 and a Member of the Royal Irish Academy in 1978. He is particularly associated with two major Academy projects, the Atlas of Ireland (published 1979) and the Irish Historic Towns Atlas (established 1981 and ongoing). His books include A paper landscape (1975), Plantation acres (1985), Shapes of Ireland (1997) and Maps in those days (2009).

Arnold Horner formerly taught geography at University College Dublin. He has written widely on the geography of Ireland, some of his work being on topics related to the academic interests of John Andrews. Recent writings by Arnold Horner include Mapping Laois (2018) and an edited volume for the Irish Manuscripts Commission, Documents relating to the Bogs Commissioners (2019).

Keith Lilley is Professor of Historical Geography at Queen’s University Belfast. His research focuses on maps and landscapes, and the connections between them. His books include Mapping Medieval Geographies (2014) and City and Cosmos (2009), and he is chair of the British Historic Towns Atlas. In 2018, the Royal Geographical Society (with IBG) conferred on him the Cuthbert Peek Award, 'For advancing geographical knowledge through the application of contemporary methods, including GIS and mapping.'

The Irish Historic Towns Atlas is a research project of the Royal Irish Academy. Series editors: Raymond Gillespie, Howard Clarke, Michael Potterton; consultant editor: Anngret Simms; managing and cartographic editor: Sarah Gearty; editorial assistants: Jennifer Moore, Frank Cullen.

More on the IHTA project here www.ihta.ie

https://www.eventbrite.ie/e/man-maps-and-map-history-john-andrews-19272019-registration-127991450875?utm_source=eventbrite&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=event_reminder&utm_term=eventname

JupiterKid · 17-11-2020 6:20pm

BonnieSituation wrote: »

Just a quick reminder that this is tonight for anyone interested:

https://www.eventbrite.ie/e/man-maps-and-map-history-john-andrews-19272019-registration-127991450875?utm_source=eventbrite&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=event_reminder&utm_term=eventname

Yep, I have my place booked!

1huge1 · 19-11-2020 5:37pm

What's Closer to Texas Than Texas Is to Itself?

Apologies if posted before.

Pherekydes · 21-11-2020 12:32am

Quantum Erasure wrote: »

Discuss.

Camán, you can not be serious?

chewed · 21-11-2020 4:55pm

Charles Babbage · 22-11-2020 12:51am

In attempting to give Trump the election, Fox News gave the wrong part of Michigan to Canada.

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