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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,673 ✭✭✭✭greenspurs


    true

    "Bright lights and Thunder .................... " #NoPopcorn



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 363 ✭✭Tig98


    I barely ****, I find it makes sex much less enjoyable. Even if you quit **** for 1-2 weeks, you'll find when you do get a bit of tail (or head) the sensations are much better.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,457 ✭✭✭✭Kylta


    A man's penis is a mans penis and he should be I control of it at all times, its ok to let others handle it, to take it into dark moist ir dry places, to let others kiss it suck it nibble on it, if your heart desires to let people abuse. But a mans penis is a mans penis and the only way to show it why your its master, is to bate it into submission that it actually gets physically sick in your hand, or whatever you **** into.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,673 ✭✭✭✭greenspurs


    it is so enjoyable that it is Very difficult to stop though.

    "Bright lights and Thunder .................... " #NoPopcorn



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,123 ✭✭✭✭Gael23


    Tig98 wrote: »
    I barely ****, I find it makes sex much less enjoyable. Even if you quit **** for 1-2 weeks, you'll find when you do get a bit of tail (or head) the sensations are much better.

    This is a well known phenomenon. Called the death grip I believe


  • Site Banned Posts: 6 PatchMcGinty


    Does anybody else do it when their other half is in the bed asleep at night beside them?

    And is it normal in a perfectly healthy relationship with no reasons to complain , AND get sex when you want, to still fantasize about other women when masturbating? Including friends of your partner.

    There is that age old topic of feeling guilt after masturbation. I’d say I’m the opposite. Right after you be saying to yourself “jeez I’d love to be out riding around me again, one night stands and all that craic” but it wears out within 5 minutes. And you’re all lovey dovey and cosy with your partner again. A strange phenomenon.

    It must be the longing for single life men in relationships get every so often. I don’t believe for one moment there’s men who never ever get that thought


  • Registered Users Posts: 530 ✭✭✭Stan27


    Does anybody else do it when their other half is in the bed asleep at night beside them?

    And is it normal in a perfectly healthy relationship with no reasons to complain , AND get sex when you want, to still fantasize about other women when masturbating? Including friends of your partner.

    There is that age old topic of feeling guilt after masturbation. I’d say I’m the opposite. Right after you be saying to yourself “jeez I’d love to be out riding around me again, one night stands and all that craic” but it wears out within 5 minutes. And you’re all lovey dovey and cosy with your partner again. A strange phenomenon.

    It must be the longing for single life men in relationships get every so often. I don’t believe for one moment there’s men who never ever get that thought

    Ye work away, life is too short.
    My bird couldnt care less!!
    All natural


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,123 ✭✭✭✭Gael23


    I’m not sure the fantasising about other women is normal but masturbating during a healthy relationship is perfectly fine


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,673 ✭✭✭✭greenspurs


    Gael23 wrote: »
    I’m not sure the fantasising about other women is normal but masturbating during a healthy relationship is perfectly fine

    I thought it would be very normal? :confused:

    "Bright lights and Thunder .................... " #NoPopcorn



  • Registered Users Posts: 91 ✭✭MarriedButBi


    Sure what is normal. It is harmless and is fantasy in your head, we all have our own normal, as long as nobody gets hurt, tug away.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,673 ✭✭✭✭greenspurs


    Sure what is normal. It is harmless and is fantasy in your head, we all have our own normal, as long as nobody gets hurt, tug away.

    ahh i know that.
    I just thought it was normally what everyone did. :D

    "Bright lights and Thunder .................... " #NoPopcorn



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 363 ✭✭Tig98


    Thinking about other women is fine in my view, as long as it is not someone you have a close relationship with (colleague, friend, etc)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,673 ✭✭✭✭greenspurs


    Tig98 wrote: »
    Thinking about other women is fine in my view, as long as it is not someone you have a close relationship with (colleague, friend, etc)

    Shur who else would you 'use' in the fantasies ??

    Strangers ?

    "Bright lights and Thunder .................... " #NoPopcorn



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 363 ✭✭Tig98


    greenspurs wrote: »
    Shur who else would you 'use' in the fantasies ??

    Strangers ?

    I know material can get stale fast but I dont think its a good idea to think about someone you have a lot of interaction with. Thats how feelings get muddled. Theres plenty secondary characters in life to keep you going

    For example, if your girlfriend was flicking the bean nightly to her co-worker she sees 5 days a week would it bother you at all?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,673 ✭✭✭✭greenspurs


    Tig98 wrote: »
    I know material can get stale fast but I dont think its a good idea to think about someone you have a lot of interaction with. Thats how feelings get muddled. Theres plenty secondary characters in life to keep you going

    For example, if your girlfriend was flicking the bean nightly to her co-worker she sees 5 days a week would it bother you at all?

    How would i know ??

    Fantasies, usually thought about, not always fulfilled....

    "Bright lights and Thunder .................... " #NoPopcorn



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 489 ✭✭grassylawn


    Apparently over seven sexual activities a week means you are hypersexual. Seems low to me.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 27,253 ✭✭✭✭GreeBo


    Thanks for reminding me OP.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,673 ✭✭✭✭greenspurs


    GreeBo wrote: »
    Thanks for reminding me OP.

    I hope you werent in work !!


    :D:D

    "Bright lights and Thunder .................... " #NoPopcorn



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,123 ✭✭✭✭Gael23


    What lube do you lads use when getting down to business with yourself?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 489 ✭✭grassylawn


    Sometimes it's not appropriate to think about someone in a sexual context. **** over them pretty much establishes a sexual context.

    I'm married with a kid so for me that's really anyone I meet who isn't my wife.

    It's fine and normal to view pornstars in a sexual context though, for example.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,145 ✭✭✭Mister Vain


    Gael23 wrote: »
    I’m not sure the fantasising about other women is normal but masturbating during a healthy relationship is perfectly fine
    Unless you're jizzing on your partner while they sleep. :D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,673 ✭✭✭✭greenspurs


    grassylawn wrote: »
    Sometimes it's not appropriate to think about someone in a sexual context. **** over them pretty much establishes a sexual context.

    I'm married with a kid so for me that's really anyone I meet who isn't my wife.

    It's fine and normal to view pornstars in a sexual context though, for example.

    sexual Fantasy ? it is not always acted upon.


    So you would not look at a beautiful woman on the beach? walking down the street ?

    "Bright lights and Thunder .................... " #NoPopcorn



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 489 ✭✭grassylawn


    greenspurs wrote: »
    sexual Fantasy ? it is not always acted upon.


    So you would not look at a beautiful woman on the beach? walking down the street ?
    Well that's a separate context again.

    With me, I think fantasising about someone sexually might permeate into my real world interactions with them in some way. That can happen in subtler ways than attempting to fulfil the fantasy.

    Aside from loyalty and protecting my relationship with my wife, I would feel I was being creepy in a lot of cases, even if I was single. For example I taught women at third level and worked with women who were effectively subordinates. I think it would be transgressing a clear and important boundary in those cases.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,673 ✭✭✭✭greenspurs


    grassylawn wrote: »
    Well that's a separate context again.

    With me, I think fantasising about someone sexually might permeate into my real world interactions with them in some way. That can happen in subtler ways than attempting to fulfil the fantasy.

    Aside from loyalty and protecting my relationship with my wife, I would feel I was being creepy in a lot of cases, even if I was single. For example I taught women at third level and worked with women who were effectively subordinates. I think it would be transgressing a clear and important boundary in those cases.

    Well, if thats how you think it would affect you, fair enough.

    What do you mean - "That can happen in subtler ways than attempting to fulfil the fantasy "


    Can you 'transgress a clear important boundary' if its a fantasy in your head ?

    Thoughts are only thoughts unless you transmit them into actions.
    How often do bad thoughts flash into your head , but 99% of the time thats all they are, flashing thoughts.
    Same with sexual fantasies , you use a person as the focus of your sexual moment at that time. I can say personally i have never felt 'creepy' after i came :)
    And i havent tried to fulfill the fantasy.
    I just tug and think :)

    "Bright lights and Thunder .................... " #NoPopcorn



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,145 ✭✭✭Mister Vain


    Just picture them in their underwear.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 489 ✭✭grassylawn


    greenspurs wrote: »
    Well, if thats how you think it would affect you, fair enough.

    What do you mean - "That can happen in subtler ways than attempting to fulfil the fantasy "


    Can you 'transgress a clear important boundary' if its a fantasy in your head ?

    Thoughts are only thoughts unless you transmit them into actions.
    How often do bad thoughts flash into your head , but 99% of the time thats all they are, flashing thoughts.
    Same with sexual fantasies , you use a person as the focus of your sexual moment at that time. I can say personally i have never felt 'creepy' after i came :)
    And i havent tried to fulfill the fantasy.
    I just tug and think :)
    Maybe body language or the expression on your face. Or it could form unconscious bias. I think it was a revelation to me when I realized one of my exes wasn't a great person or super-intelligent. These were attributes I ascribed to her because she was good-looking and had nice boobs. I don't think it's uncommon to idealize people you are attracted to.

    My view is that yes you can transgress imaginary boundaries in your imagination. The difference is that the only person it directly affects is yourself. But maybe it can affect how you view or interact with other people too.

    Would you be ok with absolutely any sort of fantasy, so long as it stayed a fantasy? Take it to the logical extreme.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,673 ✭✭✭✭greenspurs


    grassylawn wrote: »
    Maybe body language or the expression on your face. Or it could form unconscious bias. I think it was a revelation to me when I realized one of my exes wasn't a great person or super-intelligent. These were attributes I ascribed to her because she was good-looking and had nice boobs. I don't think it's uncommon to idealize people you are attracted to.

    My view is that yes you can transgress imaginary boundaries in your imagination. The difference is that the only person it directly affects is yourself. But maybe it can affect how you view or interact with other people too.

    Would you be ok with absolutely any sort of fantasy, so long as it stayed a fantasy? Take it to the logical extreme.

    Im sorry but i dont understand how 'using'/thinking about some one in a sexual fantasy is detrimental in any way, if it remains a fantasy?

    "Bright lights and Thunder .................... " #NoPopcorn



  • Registered Users Posts: 2,744 ✭✭✭marieholmfan


    Ejaculation is useful for men as they get older becasue it boosts testosterone especially in conjunction with lifting weights, it also appears to have some impact in reducing the rate of prostate cancer.

    Older men are I suspect less likely than youger ones to be at risk of some sort of bizarre imprinting of unrealistic and frankly undesirable sexual practices through viewing pronography and may simply won't have the time to watch enough porography for this to happen.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 489 ✭✭grassylawn


    greenspurs wrote: »
    Im sorry but i dont understand how 'using'/thinking about some one in a sexual fantasy is detrimental in any way, if it remains a fantasy?
    Do you mean you don't understand something I said, or just that you don't agree with it or relate to it?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,673 ✭✭✭✭greenspurs


    grassylawn wrote: »
    Do you mean you don't understand something I said, or just that you don't agree with it or relate to it?

    I just dont think it applies to me i suppose.

    Everyone is different .. :)

    "Bright lights and Thunder .................... " #NoPopcorn



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    grassylawn wrote: »
    Would you be ok with absolutely any sort of fantasy, so long as it stayed a fantasy?

    Short answer? Yes.
    Ejaculation is useful for men as they get older becasue it boosts testosterone especially in conjunction with lifting weights

    Not at the same time - one hopes? :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,807 ✭✭✭✭Loafing Oaf


    grassylawn wrote: »
    Sometimes it's not appropriate to think about someone in a sexual context. **** over them pretty much establishes a sexual context.

    If it's literally over them I'd say so...


  • Posts: 14,344 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Have to be honest, if I have to belt one out, I'd often be thinking of people I know. I'd have assumed that was the norm for most people, that you'd be imagining people you'd like to get stuck into in real life, but can't for various reasons..?


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,126 ✭✭✭misstearheus


    What in the.... how in the Fraggle Rock did I get here..


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,673 ✭✭✭✭greenspurs


    Have to be honest, if I have to belt one out, I'd often be thinking of people I know. I'd have assumed that was the norm for most people, that you'd be imagining people you'd like to get stuck into in real life, but can't for various reasons..?

    Exactly....

    I thought that was the norm ?

    "Bright lights and Thunder .................... " #NoPopcorn



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,673 ✭✭✭✭greenspurs


    What in the.... how in the Fraggle Rock did I get here..

    Curiosity ?
    The yearning for learning ?



    :D :P

    "Bright lights and Thunder .................... " #NoPopcorn



  • Moderators, Motoring & Transport Moderators, Music Moderators Posts: 12,778 Mod ✭✭✭✭Zascar


    I'd have assumed that was the norm for most people, that you'd be imagining people you'd like to get stuck into in real life, but can't for various reasons..?

    It is. Please tell me if I'm wrong but I'd guess 95% of lads have a **** bank full of the girls at work or in their wider social circle. Sure women are the same...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,673 ✭✭✭✭greenspurs


    A few scenarios, a few different 'stars' ..... :D :P

    "Bright lights and Thunder .................... " #NoPopcorn



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,447 ✭✭✭BrianD3


    It's all coming out now :) **** about women you know/work with etc. is actually a pretty big taboo. I think women would be reasonably ok with someone fantasising in their head about riding them - but once you get into pulling your dick whlle doing so that is a disgusting image for them. Add in "using" social media pics to the equation for more disgust.

    Who you **** about is nobody's business but your own but some lads are probably naïve enough to think that "I wanked about you last night" is a great compliment to pay someone.

    I'm laughing away to myself here also thinking about The Inbetweeners and the lads telling Will that his mother is looking hot and "that's tonight's **** sorted".


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,145 ✭✭✭Mister Vain


    BrianD3 wrote: »
    It's all coming out now :) **** about women you know/work with etc. is actually a pretty big taboo. I think women would be reasonably ok with someone fantasising in their head about riding them - but once you get into pulling your dick whlle doing so that is a disgusting image for them. Add in "using" social media pics to the equation for more disgust.

    Who you **** about is nobody's business but your own but some lads are probably naïve enough to think that "I wanked about you last night" is a great compliment to pay someone.

    I'm laughing away to myself here also thinking about The Inbetweeners and the lads telling Will that his mother is looking hot and "that's tonight's **** sorted".
    Aye, better to say you were shaking hands with the one-eyed milkman while fantasizing about them.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,673 ✭✭✭✭greenspurs


    BrianD3 wrote: »
    It's all coming out now :) **** about women you know/work with etc. is actually a pretty big taboo. I think women would be reasonably ok with someone fantasising in their head about riding them - but once you get into pulling your dick whlle doing so that is a disgusting image for them. Add in "using" social media pics to the equation for more disgust.

    Who you **** about is nobody's business but your own but some lads are probably naïve enough to think that "I wanked about you last night" is a great compliment to pay someone.

    I'm laughing away to myself here also thinking about The Inbetweeners and the lads telling Will that his mother is looking hot and "that's tonight's **** sorted".

    How would you know what women think ? :confused:
    Some might like it, and some wouldnt like it.. ?

    And who would go up and tell yer wan in centra that you knocked one out about her ?!
    You are super extending anything that has been mentioned.
    Some people are a bit prudish still about sex and masturbation .

    "Bright lights and Thunder .................... " #NoPopcorn



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,447 ✭✭✭BrianD3


    greenspurs wrote: »
    How would you know what women think ? :confused:
    Some might like it, and some wouldnt like it.. ?
    How would I know, maybe because I know plenty of women and can read them without asking them straight out about how they would feel about Trevor in accounts **** about their social media pics.

    The slightest suggestion or implication that this may be happening is IMO a no go area of thought for many. They also are not particularly keen on thinking about men viewing porn and what they might get up to while doing so but that is still much less of taboo than the thought of men using friends and work colleagues as material.
    And who would go up and tell yer wan in centra that you knocked one out about her ?!
    As I said, some naive lad whose logic would be that he would feel complimented if he knew a woman was flicking her bean about him therefore if the scenario is reversed, then the woman would feel complimented.

    To sum up, women are in general different than men when it comes to attitudes to sex and masturbation.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,673 ✭✭✭✭greenspurs


    BrianD3 wrote: »
    How would I know, maybe because I know plenty of women and can read them without asking them straight out about how would they would feel about Trevor in accounts **** about their social media pics.

    The slightest suggestion or implication that this may be happening is IMO a no go area of thought for many. They also are not particularly keen on thinking about men viewing porn and what they might get up to while doing so but that is still much less of taboo than the thought of men using friends and work colleagues as material.


    As I said, some naive lad whose logic would be that he would feel complimented if he knew a woman was flicking her bean about him therefore if the scenario is reversed, then the woman would feel complimented.

    To sum up, women are in general different than men when it comes to attitudes to sex and masturbation.

    So, just ignore it because its 'taboo'.... :rolleyes:
    Pretend it doesnt happen.
    Sex and masturbation used to be taboo also when the catholic church ran Ireland, and you might be surprised about what some of those "plenty of women" get up to in their thoughts and actions !!

    "Bright lights and Thunder .................... " #NoPopcorn



  • Registered Users Posts: 4,402 ✭✭✭McGinniesta


    Sometimes when you wake up with a raging horn you kinda have to crack one off.

    You have to do something with a horn of that magnitude.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1 Hibernia2


    No reason to want to wean yourself off... **** is great I still love it :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,807 ✭✭✭✭Loafing Oaf


    Hibernia2 wrote: »
    No reason to want to wean yourself off... **** is great I still love it :)

    And if that's the only thing you ever post, Hibernia2, it was certainly worth joining the forum to do it.


  • Moderators, Motoring & Transport Moderators, Music Moderators Posts: 12,778 Mod ✭✭✭✭Zascar


    grassylawn wrote: »
    Sometimes it's not appropriate to think about someone in a sexual context. **** over them pretty much establishes a sexual context.

    Don't be ridiculous. A person's private thoughts are the one thing that is absolutely none of anyone else business. As long as it stays as a thought and nothing more - a person can think about anything they dam please.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,673 ✭✭✭✭greenspurs


    Zascar wrote: »
    Don't be ridiculous. A person's private thoughts are the one thing that is absolutely none of anyone else business. As long as it stays as a thought and nothing more - a person can think about anything they dam please.

    Exactly !

    "Bright lights and Thunder .................... " #NoPopcorn



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,028 ✭✭✭H3llR4iser


    BrianD3 wrote: »
    How would I know, maybe because I know plenty of women and can read them without asking them straight out about how they would feel about Trevor in accounts **** about their social media pics.

    The slightest suggestion or implication that this may be happening is IMO a no go area of thought for many. They also are not particularly keen on thinking about men viewing porn and what they might get up to while doing so but that is still much less of taboo than the thought of men using friends and work colleagues as material.

    Ah, the good old "EEEWWWW!" response, which most women give by absolute default when talking up the possibility of intimacy with "Joe down in Accounting". A pre-packaged reaction to any such suggestion in a social environment, aimed mostly towards peer acceptance and avoiding to arouse suspicions of having "low standards", especially amongst other women who would then judge negatively.

    Only exception, when it is allowed to forego the "EEEWWWW!" reaction - if they're sure EVERY other woman within earshot would want to have a go at "Joe down in Accounting". Which usually requires minimum conditions of him to be a 6'5" absolute stud and drive a Porsche. ;)

    Main difference with guys - you can say you'd love having a couple of hours alone with "Janet down in Finance", even if said Janet suffers from a skin condition, is missing a leg and an arm, suffers from b.o. and has an history of dudes disappearing after hooking up with her. The most negative reaction you'll get will be "uh...good for you mate, good for you." :D:D:D

    The first attitude doesn't pass the "real life test": if it was the real attitude, no woman would ever get with the "average Jim(s)"; They do, so it means the "EEEWWWW!" conundrum is just smoke & mirrors :D:D:D

    The second...smashes the test and actually beats any fantasy, proving once again if there was any need that for most of us guys, the theorem "doesn't matter if she's breathing, as long as the corpse is still warm enough..." hold absurdly right :D:P:mad:
    BrianD3 wrote: »
    As I said, some naive lad whose logic would be that he would feel complimented if he knew a woman was flicking her bean about him therefore if the scenario is reversed, then the woman would feel complimented.

    To sum up, women are in general different than men when it comes to attitudes to sex and masturbation.

    You don't say :D

    Yet, gotta tell...bloke going up to a lady and using "hey, last night I strangled the duck thinking about you" as an opener (or at any moment, really)...I would GUESS he wouldn't exactly be Noble prize material, just sayin :D
    Zascar wrote: »
    Don't be ridiculous. A person's private thoughts are the one thing that is absolutely none of anyone else business. As long as it stays as a thought and nothing more - a person can think about anything they dam please.

    + 1 million. Last thing we need is the though police...


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 489 ✭✭grassylawn


    A few ruffled feathers! Little bit dramatic to talk about thought police, and it's a bit childish to call someone's PoV ridiculous just because you don't see things the same way.

    I think there would be an observable difference in someone's behaviour around people they've recently fantasised about. Greenspurs said actually they don't think that is true for them at all. I found that interesting. Obviously I don't know what goes on in other people's heads and for all I know some of the most professional people I know **** obsessively about their underlings once work is finished.

    As for what the norm is, I was curious and google told me that 40% of people reported masturbating over colleagues (with only a small difference between men and women).

    Personally I don't find the idea of someone at work masturbating over me welcome, and I would find it more unwelcome if they were attractive. I'd find it gross if the person concerned had authority over me that they exercised in any way. I think I can tell that some people have, to be blunt.


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