Clay Farm, Leopardstown, Dublin 18

JDD · 30-04-2021 11:04am

decorfali9 wrote: »

Not moved in yet. As with a number of us writing lately we're waiting for construction to pick up after being closed for months.

Parking for the houses isn't a big problem. There isn't a lot of visitor parking that I know of but every house comes with 2 driveway spots.

Visitor parking on the phase 1 side isn't great, especially if you have two cars. What we have found is that we got to know our neighbours pretty quickly and if we were going to have 3/4 households over we'd just text to see if we could use their extra space (if they only have one car). If worst came to worst, someone would just park over in Glencairn or at Dunnes shopping centre car park and walk over - that only happened at the start though when we didn't know anyone.

DelBoy Trotter · 01-05-2021 11:07am

decorfali9 wrote: »

Parking for the houses isn't a big problem. There isn't a lot of visitor parking that I know of but every house comes with 2 driveway spots.

Are you sure every house comes with two spaces? A friend of mine is due to move into his house later in the year and he mentioned only having one parking space

decorfali9 · 01-05-2021 4:03pm

DelBoy Trotter wrote: »

Are you sure every house comes with two spaces? A friend of mine is due to move into his house later in the year and he mentioned only having one parking space

Yes, I am sure for my unit. Worth noting that the Elders have the parking to the side and not the front the property and their case some have only 1 space and some have 2 but one car would be sandwitched in between your own garden fence and your 2nd space.

Nika Bolokov · 02-05-2021 10:53am

c00114110 wrote: »

Hi C14N, I hope you can get your dream house. And hope everyone get their dream house.

I know 500K and HTB are very attractive. But nothing is perfect. If print Phase1 map and map out the price (which can get from https://propertypriceregisterireland.com/), here are a few things you may need to think about:
1. there are very limit number of 500K house available, so you may not got them.
2. The house normally doesn't have good direction to sun.
3. The house normally near to social house.

It maybe doesn't matter to you, but you are better to concern them rather than surprise later.

Every house in Clay Farm is near a social house. I wouldnt let that influence you.

Also there is a large council estate right across the road.

If thats a concern Clay Farm isnt right at all for you.

c00114110 · 02-05-2021 11:08am

Nika Bolokov wrote: »

Every house in Clay Farm is near a social house. I wouldnt let that influence you.

Also there is a large council estate right across the road.

If thats a concern Clay Farm isnt right at all for you.

You are right, most new estates have social house. But neighbour, couple house away and across road are materially different. You can find lots of places in Dublin, similar house, similar condition just separate by a road, has 30, 40k different.

I didn't criticise social house in Clay Farm at all. just want to highlight there. And want people know this thing, and want them accept before they make decision rather than surprise after got the house.

JDD · 02-05-2021 7:12pm

c00114110 wrote: »

You are right, most new estates have social house. But neighbour, couple house away and across road are materially different. You can find lots of places in Dublin, similar house, similar condition just separate by a road, has 30, 40k different.

I didn't criticise social house in Clay Farm at all. just want to highlight there. And want people know this thing, and want them accept before they make decision rather than surprise after got the house.

I think that's fair enough. I think you could be lucky or unlucky with social housing. There hasn't been any complaints really from the house owners down near the social housing blocks in Phase 1 - as far as I can tell from the facebook group - apart from from people parking in other people's spare space (the Elders and some Ferns have one space out front, and then a second space around the corner which sometimes looks like it's a visitor space).

As for a house with only one parking space - I haven't heard that at all. All the houses in Phase 1 had two spaces allocated, and I think nearly all the apartments have one space, so unless it's a new thing with Phase 2?

Newhomehunter1 · 04-05-2021 3:39pm

Hello everyone is there a clayfarm residents WhatsApp group??? I tried the Facebook group but not getting added.

I need some basic numbers for the site foreman or plumber or flooring guys etc. If anybody can help please.

JDD · 04-05-2021 4:34pm

Hi Newhomebuyer

There's no WhatsApp group as far as I know. There is a "Clay Farm Residents" group which I think is open to any home buyers or renters. You'll probably get the details you need from that group. I'm afraid I don't have the numbers for the foreman or plumber, so can't DM them to you. We used the Flooring Mill for our floors.

There's also a Clay Farm-ers Facebook group, but that's a closed group just for the Phase 1 house buyers.

Graham · 07-05-2021 9:19pm

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EamonnW09 · 14-05-2021 9:31am

With construction back open a few weeks now. Has anyone heard any news on the next launch?

kooreczka · 15-05-2021 5:52pm

EamonnW09 wrote: »

With construction back open a few weeks now. Has anyone heard any news on the next launch?

As far as I know the apartments will be released later this month not sure about the houses. Prices will be increased as well unfortunately.

Newhomehunter1 · 17-05-2021 4:18pm

Hi all,
Can the existing house owners advice re flooring
I have many flooring guys advise that the issue specific to clayfarm re removal of skirting board for flooring and then refitting the same which may or may not cause damages.
Is there a work around? Was flooring done smoothly for all?

awec · 17-05-2021 4:23pm

Newhomehunter1 wrote: »

Hi all,
Can the existing house owners advice re flooring
I have many flooring guys advise that the issue specific to clayfarm re removal of skirting board for flooring and then refitting the same which may or may not cause damages.
Is there a work around? Was flooring done smoothly for all?

Ask the builder to either leave the skirtings off, or if they insist on attaching to just tack them on.

Newhomehunter1 · 17-05-2021 4:43pm

awec wrote: »

Ask the builder to either leave the skirtings off, or if they insist on attaching to just tack them on.

Thanks.
As far as I am aware the builders don't leave the skirtings off even if you ask.

decorfali9 · 17-05-2021 5:06pm

Newhomehunter1 wrote: »

Thanks.
As far as I am aware the builders don't leave the skirtings off even if you ask.

Correct. We were told the same.

Newhomehunter1 · 17-05-2021 5:15pm

decorfali9 wrote: »

Correct. We were told the same.

Did you get your flooring done ?

decorfali9 · 17-05-2021 9:24pm

Newhomehunter1 wrote: »

Did you get your flooring done ?

Nope. We're only on the upcoming batch of snaggings. But others in this thread raised the concern on the skirting boards being too high to fit the floor w/o requiring an extra strip to cover the gap. We asked whether we could get our house w/o the skirting boards fitted. They aren't entertaining this or any other modifications.

c00114110 · 17-05-2021 11:13pm

decorfali9 wrote: »

Nope. We're only on the upcoming batch of snaggings. But others in this thread raised the concern on the skirting boards being too high to fit the floor w/o requiring an extra strip to cover the gap. We asked whether we could get our house w/o the skirting boards fitted. They aren't entertaining this or any other modifications.

I had same issue. But the guys said they can reuse the skirting boards, just need to ask some skirting board paint from Park when do the snagging.

awec · 17-05-2021 11:16pm

c00114110 wrote: »

I had same issue. But the guys said they can reuse the skirting boards, just need to ask some skirting board paint from Park when do the snagging.

They can definitely be re-used unless they're broken during removal.

Probably need to be caulked when re-attached too, I doubt your walls are perfectly flat.

Newhomehunter1 · 20-05-2021 3:47pm

Can anyone advise the time frame between the first snag and the final move in excluding flooring etc.

decorfali9 · 23-05-2021 6:14pm

Newhomehunter1 wrote: »

Can anyone advise the time frame between the first snag and the final move in excluding flooring etc.

I don't think anyone can tell you much there. It really depends on the snagging and what you find. Most likely you'll need a 2nd snag, possibly even a 3rd. Maybe a better question, if someone knows, is whether they are quickly jumping to fix anything reported thru the snags.

The only more or less clear thing here is once you accept that there are no further snags (which I believe your solicitor needs to do in writing) then a coundown of 15 days kicks in whereby you need to close the sale.

Newhomehunter1 · 24-05-2021 1:50am

decorfali9 wrote: »

I don't think anyone can tell you much there. It really depends on the snagging and what you find. Most likely you'll need a 2nd snag, possibly even a 3rd. Maybe a better question, if someone knows, is whether they are quickly jumping to fix anything reported thru the snags.

The only more or less clear thing here is once you accept that there are no further snags (which I believe your solicitor needs to do in writing) then a coundown of 15 days kicks in whereby you need to close the sale.

Fair enough.
Thanks so much.

C14N · 25-05-2021 4:17pm

Maybe a dumb question but what do people in this thread mean by "snagging"?

awec · 25-05-2021 4:20pm

C14N wrote: »

Maybe a dumb question but what do people in this thread mean by "snagging"?

The snag is when you get someone in to inspect the fit and finish of a new build. Make sure doors close properly, make sure no scuff marks on paint, no chips in woodwork, that sort of thing.

C14N · 25-05-2021 4:28pm

awec wrote: »

The snag is when you get someone in to inspect the fit and finish of a new build. Make sure doors close properly, make sure no scuff marks on paint, no chips in woodwork, that sort of thing.

Ok, I see, so is this something that would typically be done by a surveyor for a few hundred Euro?

awec · 25-05-2021 4:32pm

C14N wrote: »

Ok, I see, so is this something that would typically be done by a surveyor for a few hundred Euro?

Yea, usually it's a fixed cost based on the size of the house (2 bed, 3 bed etc). Surveyor will give you a document with a list of issues with photos.

You give it to the developer, usually you pick your battles and highlight the ones that you won't compromise on as it's unlikely every single issue will be addressed.

Some people will get a snag done twice if the first list has lots of issues.

C14N · 26-05-2021 4:51pm

I received an email today for registering to view apartments in Oak Hall. Decided to sign up as I do quite like the look of them, although may be harder to convince the other half to settle for it over a house. Worth a look anyway though I think, at least for ones on the larger side. They look quite nicely done on the virtual tours. Main concern is a single parking space as we both have family in the countryside and tend to use both cars for visiting them.

Cyrus · 26-05-2021 4:56pm

decorfali9 wrote: »

Nope. We're only on the upcoming batch of snaggings. But others in this thread raised the concern on the skirting boards being too high to fit the floor w/o requiring an extra strip to cover the gap. We asked whether we could get our house w/o the skirting boards fitted. They aren't entertaining this or any other modifications.

if you want your floors done properly the skirting boards need to come off, if someone is quoting you for flooring make sure they are including this, not removing them and using trim is a bodge job.

you2008 · 26-05-2021 5:28pm

Dose anyone know the price yet?

Zhet · 26-05-2021 6:28pm

1 Bed 310k - 360k
2 Bed 410k - 485k

decorfali9 · 27-05-2021 9:28pm

Cyrus wrote: »

if you want your floors done properly the skirting boards need to come off, if someone is quoting you for flooring make sure they are including this, not removing them and using trim is a bodge job.

Any quotes I've got so far I've got told they'd remove remove the skirting board to get it done properly. I was pleasantly suprised to hear this because in every pleace I've rented I've had those ugly trims.

JDD · 28-05-2021 9:31am

decorfali9 wrote: »

Any quotes I've got so far I've got told they'd remove remove the skirting board to get it done properly. I was pleasantly suprised to hear this because in every pleace I've rented I've had those ugly trims.

We got the Flooring Mill to do ours and they took off the skirting boards and then put them back on. They were fairly careful, though there's a little gap on part of the skirting at the front door and again a tiny part of the sitting room. I don't think it's reasonable to get them to put them back on perfectly though.

It's a pity Park don't leave them off for people who request it but they're very rigid that way. We asked for them not to install wardrobes in one of the bedrooms and their answer basically was "if it's on the plans, you're getting it. Feel free to take them out after you have the keys". I guess they're afraid that everyone will ask for a small change and it adds to their work to keep track of who has asked for what, and then they run the risk of making an amendment to the wrong house and having to come back in at snagging to fix it.

Hershel95 · 28-05-2021 2:01pm

Could I ask once you go sale agreed, the developer eventually hand over the keys, what are the things you need to do (provided snagging is complete)? For example, you would need to sort flooring for all rooms except for the bathrooms (as I understand these are the only ones that are tiled by Park).

The list I have are as follows but the more experienced guys here might give me a steer if I'm missing anything else.

Just trying to get a sense of a to-do list before we move in.

Thanks a lot.

-x-

Pre-move
Clearout: hire skip / clear out junk (no point paying to move stuff we will end up throwing out anyway)
Packing: get boxes / labelling (OR quotes for movers to also pack contents)
Utilities: confirm with new utility provider and switch over date (electricity, gas, bins, water, internet, TV licence, car log book, Revenue)
Insurances: confirm insurance / any change to costs
Post: redirect to new home
Snagging: get quote / confirm date
Flooring: get quotes / confirm laying date

Move out/in:
Note meter readings (old & new place)
Direct movers

Post move in:
Other: update any other dependent information (eg: driving licence which needs proof of address)

JDD wrote: »

We got the Flooring Mill to do ours and they took off the skirting boards and then put them back on. They were fairly careful, though there's a little gap on part of the skirting at the front door and again a tiny part of the sitting room. I don't think it's reasonable to get them to put them back on perfectly though.

C14N · 28-05-2021 2:14pm

Got an update on the next phase of houses today. The next phase will be coming in September, and house prices are not confirmed to be the same as in the last phase. They may end up increasing. I think I may have to start looking elsewhere myself.

DelBoy Trotter · 28-05-2021 2:48pm

C14N wrote: »

Got an update on the next phase of houses today. The next phase will be coming in September, and house prices are not confirmed to be the same as in the last phase. They may end up increasing. I think I may have to start looking elsewhere myself.

Did that update come from Savills? We are on the list for the next phase, but haven't heard anything yet about the houses. We did get the email about apartments the other day though

C14N · 28-05-2021 2:51pm

DelBoy Trotter wrote: »

Did that update come from Savills? We are on the list for the next phase, but haven't heard anything yet about the houses. We did get the email about apartments the other day though

Yeah it was from the Savilles agent we were dealing with. It's not confirmed yet, but I'm not sure I'd want to wait up to 4 more months for them when there's a good probability they won't even qualify for help-to-buy, which was really where the value was added in these.

DelBoy Trotter · 28-05-2021 3:01pm

C14N wrote: »

Yeah it was from the Savilles agent we were dealing with. It's not confirmed yet, but I'm not sure I'd want to wait up to 4 more months for them when there's a good probability they won't even qualify for help-to-buy, which was really where the value was added in these.

I'd be surprised if they move the price of the 3 beds that qualified for the HTB scheme to over 500k. I think that extra bit of money would take a while to come in as they will lose a lot of people who are currently interested. I know we'd be out if that happened, as you say, that's where the value was in these houses. We are looking elsewhere anyway, as a brand new house wasn't a must have for us, but Clay Farm would be the perfect location for us

C14N · 28-05-2021 3:04pm

DelBoy Trotter wrote: »

I'd be surprised if they move the price of the 3 beds that qualified for the HTB scheme to over 500k. I think that extra bit of money would take a while to come in as they will lose a lot of people who are currently interested. I know we'd be out if that happened, as you say, that's where the value was in these houses. We are looking elsewhere anyway, as a brand new house wasn't a must have for us, but Clay Farm would be the perfect location for us

Possibly, but I did specifically ask about HTB eligibility and she didn't say they were definitely going to not qualify, but that no promises could be made right now. They have to at least be considering it. To be fair, I did always think €490k seemed low for what you got. If you look out on the open market there's nothing else to this kind of modern standard coming in at under €500k, so I imagine they would still be able to sell them even at a higher price.

decorfali9 · 02-06-2021 9:36pm

Hi all. Looking for opinions on floors.

First I want to ask is for the kitchen. We're in a fern and for those the "ideal" solution is a single type of floor all the way from the living room to the kitchen. We were thinking laminade. In the stores I ask about this I get contradictory advice. At the stores that sell ceramic I get told that with laminade (or hardwood floor, or vinyl) is a dealbreaker if there are any leaks that get underneath the floor, that the only floor that will survive this is ceramic. Then I go to stores that don't sell ceramic and they say that any floor inc. ceramic will be wrecked if a leak gets underneath and that I would be fine with a water proof laminade. Any thoughts on this?

I also want to ask, for laminade, I've read in this thread about a "Flooring Mill" company. Can I get a website for them? I've found one such named company in Dublin but their website looks a bit... unfinished, so prob not the right one.

EamonnW09 · 04-06-2021 9:48am

DelBoy Trotter wrote: »

I'd be surprised if they move the price of the 3 beds that qualified for the HTB scheme to over 500k. I think that extra bit of money would take a while to come in as they will lose a lot of people who are currently interested. I know we'd be out if that happened, as you say, that's where the value was in these houses. We are looking elsewhere anyway, as a brand new house wasn't a must have for us, but Clay Farm would be the perfect location for us

I wouldn't be surprised at all if they move the 3 beds over the €500k mark. They're definitely moving the 4 beds well over the €600k mark to mid 600's almost so I've no doubt they'll do the same with 3 beds in terms of shooting up the price. Demand is there and they most definitely will still sell the 3 beds in no time, so all they care about is maximising their profits.

I will most likely be looking elsewhere at this point. €650k to live adjacent to a recycling plant and electricity station is madness, but I guess these are the time we live in!

Newhomehunter1 · 04-06-2021 11:21am

EamonnW09 wrote: »

I will most likely be looking elsewhere at this point. €650k to live adjacent to a recycling plant and electricity station is madness, but I guess these are the time we live in!

Please do not demean the ones who have already brought a house here. If you are not interested feel free to unfollow the thread

kooreczka · 04-06-2021 11:30am

Is there anyone on here living in the apartments in Clay Farm? Were the floors included? How long did it take from viewing until getting the keys? Would really appreciate any information. Thank you

Trankton · 04-06-2021 2:31pm

For anyone living in the apts, what are they like in terms of noise, can you hear the neighbours etc?

Thanks.

decorfali9 · 04-06-2021 7:47pm

Hi all.

I'd like to understand as precisely as possible how the cabled internet is laid out. Anyone from phase 1/2 houses knows this?

I went to do my snagging and didn't have a tool to open the cabled plates by the wall but I could make a good educated guess of how this is setup. One of the wall plates in the living room on the corner nearest to the front door was exposed. I could see CAT6 cable going there. I see a similar looking plate the smaller bedroom (Fern), so I'd assume cable going there as well. Finally, I saw another of such plates labled "Data" on the utiliy room next to the back door to the garden (plus another called "TV"; is this for aerial or for coax going to the TV?). One would assume that some main line from the outside brings your internet service to the utility room and that's where your router/switch goes to get your internet service routed to the living room/bedroom. This means that the internet provider doesn't need any new drilling/cables, which was the point with Siro. All they need to do is to install the modem/router by the utility room. Can someone confirm this?

I'd be looking to lay out additional cable to the other 2 bedrooms (possibly even to add redundancy to some of the bedrooms for home office setup). Anyone has done this? AFAIK this is trivial whenever the main line from the outside goes to the attic, because you're free to run lenghts of cable through the attic space and downwards through each wall cavity. In this case though I'm guessing the small bedroom is the only one with cable because it is the one directly above the utility room. Can't imagine it'll be easy to run cable across the entire house to get form the utility room "diagonally" to the other 2 bedrooms. Unless cable is run from the utility room into the attic and then down into each room again?

EamonnW09 · 04-06-2021 7:54pm

Newhomehunter1 wrote: »

EamonnW09 wrote: »

I will most likely be looking elsewhere at this point. €650k to live adjacent to a recycling plant and electricity station is madness, but I guess these are the time we live in!

Please do not demean the ones who have already brought a house here. If you are not interested feel free to unfollow the thread

Im in no way demeaning anyone, and in no way intended to. I am merely stating a fact. I’ve absolutely no problem with the fact that there is an electrical station and recycling plant nearby (if I did I wouldn’t have been looking to spend €600k on a house here) but there’s no question that these along with other factors are why these houses have been so affordable for so many vs other new builds in South Dublin.

I have been following this thread for quite some time and have quite a bit of vested interest in Clay Farm and still could so I’ll keep following thanks.

If you’ve a problem with a couple of facts then feel free to not to read my reply’ and all the best with your new home.

P.s. there’s about 5 pages on this thread about peoples issues with the electrical station so you may want to stay clear of them.

mcastrobruno · 15-06-2021 8:28am

Does anyone put a deposit for Oak Hall?
I'm worried about the ESB substation noise, what is your thinking about this?

kooreczka · 15-06-2021 9:08am

mcastrobruno wrote: »

Does anyone put a deposit for Oak Hall?
I'm worried about the ESB substation noise, what is your thinking about this?

We have. To be honest I don't think there is much noise coming from there. There are 3 more buildings closer to it and some houses and apartment we booked is on the other side of the building. Have you put deposit down as well?

mcastrobruno · 15-06-2021 2:35pm

kooreczka wrote: »

We have. To be honest I don't think there is much noise coming from there. There are 3 more buildings closer to it and some houses and apartment we booked is on the other side of the building. Have you put deposit down as well?

I did.
I went there yesterday and I could hear some very very low noise when I was in front of the building, It’s likely to not to be heard from inside de building.

What unit have you put the deposit?

RockIT · 18-06-2021 10:58am

Has anyone who paid booking deposit for Oak hall received the contracts?

KG_2020 · 18-06-2021 7:01pm

Hi all,
I just wondering to know if the clay farm houses and apartments the whole complex will have its own gates and surrounded by walls as a court for more privacy

Clay Farm, Leopardstown, Dublin 18

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