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Galway GAA Discussion Thread #2

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  • Registered Users Posts: 3,019 ✭✭✭TCDStudent1


    threeball wrote: »
    Tuam Herald never has a bad word to say about anyone. I've never seen one controversial thing in that paper in my lifetime.

    Daithi should avoid the footballers like the plague. The players need to decide this week if they're really happy with management and the set up in general. If not they need to lay it out in no uncertain terms. If they're not heard or lads are dropped for complaining they should walk. Daithi walking into what is almost certainly a toxic environment would be nuts.

    Hurl with Turlough and football with Corofin and the year will be well long enough.




    Funny you should say that as I recently came across a Tuam Herald from the 1990's. There was a piece from Jim Carney completely laying into Bosco McDermott. He did not hold back. I dont remember the exact wording but was surprised at how strong the language was. You certainly don't see journalism like that in the Tuam Herald these days.


  • Registered Users Posts: 3,019 ✭✭✭TCDStudent1


    Hasn't been well handled. Naming a goalie to start and then not playing him is well plain stupid in my opinion unless it's a late injury. Which it wasn't. Lavelle wasn't particularly happy when he was dropped for the Sligo game either. I don't think either goalie really knows where they stand.


    Exactly - changing the goalie just increases the pressure on the goalie. All the talk before the match was that Lavelle was in for Power, and wondering why! While Cooke came in for Cummins, I didn't really hear anybody question that decision before the match.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,869 ✭✭✭Happyilylost


    Exactly - changing the goalie just increases the pressure on the goalie. All the talk before the match was that Lavelle was in for Power, and wondering why! While Cooke came in for Cummins, I didn't really hear anybody question that decision before the match.


    Ya outfield positions are part and parcel of the game now. Goalie switches are much of a rarity and definitely brings an extra bit of pressure that wasn't necessary. Roscommon hardly had a game plan built around which fecking goalie we used. I've stated before I'm a Lavelle fan. But I think there is little between them. But to go from Lavelle for the league (apart for a game against Dublin which confused the f*&k out of me as well. Manus was in goals) and Lavelle for the first championship match against London. Then Power for Sligo. Then name Power to start against Roscommon. Then play Lavelle. Doesn't exactly exude confidence does it!


    If he named Power, Power should of started unless it was an injury. He did the entire warm up and even started warming up when Lavelle damaged his eye so he was definitely ready to go.


  • Registered Users Posts: 104 ✭✭GalwayLurker


    Rob Thomas wrote: »
    Totally agree with this. Just pick one and stick with it. From what I hear, Power knew Thursday he was replaced but even still it shows that KW is still not settled on his best keeper. I don't think there is a comparison between them but KW is entitled to pick who he wants - just do it though.



    I know there would have been issues with commitment from Power in the past but Rochford and Kevin O'Brien were always able to work with him in Corofin. Its telling that Brian Silke didn't really pick him when he was manager of Corofin.

    In fairness to Power he's put in the hard yards. He wasn't playing for his club senior team a few years ago but got called for the county junior team and worked up from there eventually replacing Tom Healy in the Corofin goal and breaking onto the county senior team. You couldn't doubt his commitment now and he's seriously improved the last couple of years, I'd have him before Lavelle any day. He just seems so much more assured and doesn't panic, I think this is where Lavelle lets himself down, he gets flustered when the pressure comes on and rushes his kicks.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,480 ✭✭✭MfMan


    Funny you should say that as I recently came across a Tuam Herald from the 1990's. There was a piece from Jim Carney completely laying into Bosco McDermott. He did not hold back. I dont remember the exact wording but was surprised at how strong the language was. You certainly don't see journalism like that in the Tuam Herald these days.

    As was said of Geoffrey Howe once upon a time, it was like being savaged by a dead sheep. Think I remember that column; things must have been really bad back then. Leitrim beat us twice in a row IIRC.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,480 ✭✭✭MfMan


    In the week that's in it, sad news for Galway football, with the passing of Tom 'Pook' Dillon, stalwart defender of the 1956 team. One of the best and toughest backs of the time. RIP.


  • Registered Users Posts: 304 ✭✭Robert2014


    RIP

    Chopping and changing goalies never works in any sport.
    No matter the goalie however, the lack of a kick out strategy is killing them. It seems that they are trying to find someone to kick it out to but no one wants, no wants to make a move to find space for the ball and the ball ends up been kicked out long and makes it a 50-50 ball or out over the sideline. Other teams have decoy runs etc. and we have a policy that hasn't changed since forever! It puts even more pressure on our goalie and god knows our team does not respond well under pressure.


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,129 ✭✭✭cosatron


    Daithi needs a break anyway. He looked below his best for the hurlers this year. He's been on a crazy schedule in recent years with repeated long runs for Corofin and Galway.

    personally I think daithi needs to pack in the football and concentrate on hurling. His first touch and striking was very poor this year due to lack of hurling. considering how competitive hurling is now you need to be hurling in the league and you need to hit the ground running in the first game with your best team or you will be left behind like we found out this year.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 15,238 ✭✭✭✭Diabhal Beag


    Any word on whether the big crisis talks happened?


  • Registered Users Posts: 11,223 ✭✭✭✭RMAOK


    RIP Tom 'Pook' Dillon


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,268 ✭✭✭threeball


    Anyone hear the WhatsApp going round from a lad who happened across some Galway footballers the morning after the defeat a bit worse for wear? Is it genuine?


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,869 ✭✭✭Happyilylost


    threeball wrote:
    Anyone hear the WhatsApp going round from a lad who happened across some Galway footballers the morning after the defeat a bit worse for wear? Is it genuine?


    Didn't hear. They were drinking with the hurlers all day Monday in Woodquay. Rumours of some bust ups too but seems to have died down again. Damo wearing 14 but not starting for Annaghdown. Did full warm up. No Duggan.


  • Registered Users Posts: 822 ✭✭✭MattressRick


    threeball wrote: »
    Anyone hear the WhatsApp going round from a lad who happened across some Galway footballers the morning after the defeat a bit worse for wear? Is it genuine?

    The only justification for a message like that is something scandalous happening or if one of them was breaking the law, but a lad on the Buckie telling him to **** off is not worth crying over. Poor lad must've needed to take the rest of the day off to lie down.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,268 ✭✭✭threeball


    The only justification for a message like that is something scandalous happening or if one of them was breaking the law, but a lad on the Buckie telling him to **** off is not worth crying over. Poor lad must've needed to take the rest of the day off to lie down.

    Couldn't give a toss about yer man whinging but it's hardly the thing to do after putting on a gutless sh1t show the day before. Going on the lash and walking around town like a wino with a bottle of buckfast roaring at people passing doesn't really bode well. If that's the reaction of the team then maybe a clear out is needed.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,268 ✭✭✭threeball


    Didn't hear. They were drinking with the hurlers all day Monday in Woodquay. Rumours of some bust ups too but seems to have died down again. Damo wearing 14 but not starting for Annaghdown. Did full warm up. No Duggan.

    Hurlers can do as they like, they're out. If these lads had any sense of self they'd put the head down and try to work to steady the ship and prove people wrong. Same lads mentioned were brutal the day before too.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,796 ✭✭✭spurshero


    Your man came across as a pure idiot . Seemed to thinks he’s awful important . Let the lads blow off a bit of steam ffs once there’s no harm done . There amateurs at the small of the day yet some people seem to think if there seen with a pint glass they have committed a crime . Like I said once they don’t cause any hassle they need an odd night out . At least that’s my opinion maybe I’m wrong


  • Registered Users Posts: 822 ✭✭✭MattressRick


    threeball wrote: »
    The only justification for a message like that is something scandalous happening or if one of them was breaking the law, but a lad on the Buckie telling him to **** off is not worth crying over. Poor lad must've needed to take the rest of the day off to lie down.

    Couldn't give a toss about yer man whinging but it's hardly the thing to do after putting on a gutless sh1t show the day before. Going on the lash and walking around town like a wino with a bottle of buckfast roaring at people passing doesn't really bode well. If that's the reaction of the team then maybe a clear out is needed.

    True, fair point. But my understanding of the guys stupid message was it was very early in the morning with hardly anyone around and he said he took a good look to see who was there, I'd imagine the slowing down and rubbernecking was the catalyst for telling him to F off.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,869 ✭✭✭Happyilylost


    Comer on. Tuam leading 1-6 to 4 points.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,298 ✭✭✭✭gammygils


    The Minor Footballers have hammered Leitrim in Tuam this evening 5-25 to 1-4. And Sligo bet the Rossies.
    This means Galway are straight into the Connacht Final


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,268 ✭✭✭threeball


    True, fair point. But my understanding of the guys stupid message was it was very early in the morning with hardly anyone around and he said he took a good look to see who was there, I'd imagine the slowing down and rubbernecking was the catalyst for telling him to F off.

    Completely agree about yer man. Fair weather "supporter" at best. Still think it's a very poor reflection of the lads involved if that's the reaction to getting schooled a few hours before. A few pints yes. Hitting the buckie and hanging round town off your face at 7 or 8 in the morning shows the mindset that explains alot.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,268 ✭✭✭threeball


    Comer on. Tuam leading 1-6 to 4 points.

    How did that go in the end?


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,869 ✭✭✭Happyilylost


    threeball wrote:
    How did that go in the end?


    Tuam won 1-9 to 7points. Very poor niggling game. Comer moved around fine. Other than fitness he moved fine.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,489 ✭✭✭PCeeeee


    threeball wrote: »
    Completely agree about yer man. Fair weather "supporter" at best. Still think it's a very poor reflection of the lads involved if that's the reaction to getting schooled a few hours before. A few pints yes. Hitting the buckie and hanging round town off your face at 7 or 8 in the morning shows the mindset that explains alot.

    Sounded like he was eyeballing them all right.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 488 ✭✭Rob Thomas


    Tuam won 1-9 to 7points. Very poor niggling game. Comer moved around fine. Other than fitness he moved fine.

    Annaghdowns season over before it starts looks like


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,825 ✭✭✭Doctors room ghost


    Any of ye hear of a player without mentioning names who was at a wedding before the Connacht final and not being started as a result


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,796 ✭✭✭spurshero


    Rob Thomas wrote: »
    Annaghdowns season over before it starts looks like

    Are they out now


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 488 ✭✭Rob Thomas


    spurshero wrote: »
    Are they out now


    Will need to beat corofin to stay involved.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,869 ✭✭✭Happyilylost


    Any of ye hear of a player without mentioning names who was at a wedding before the Connacht final and not being started as a result


    Does he stand between two sticks?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,480 ✭✭✭MfMan


    spurshero wrote: »
    Your man came across as a pure idiot . Seemed to thinks he’s awful important . Let the lads blow off a bit of steam ffs once there’s no harm done . There amateurs at the small of the day yet some people seem to think if there seen with a pint glass they have committed a crime . Like I said once they don’t cause any hassle they need an odd night out . At least that’s my opinion maybe I’m wrong

    Not even sure if it's real, sounded like a Keith Finnegan parody to me. Snowflake. He'd need to go to more Galway games to give him credence.

    Never too worried about players fighting among themselves - KK practically lived on it under Cody during their successful reign - as long as they fight for each other on the pitch. Some good may yet come of it as long as they start thinking for themselves a bit and throw off the KW-imposed shackles.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,480 ✭✭✭MfMan


    Any of ye hear of a player without mentioning names who was at a wedding before the Connacht final and not being started as a result

    Sounds like a rehash of an older story where a couple of players attended a wedding in spite of the manager's wishes.


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,145 ✭✭✭testtech05


    It's always that way isn't it all these stories/rumours come out after a team has a loss. Maybe there is something going on in the background we will have to wait and see.

    Never hear anything after a win, although I'm sure fans would give more leeway after a win! Would know a couple of the Ros players through a mutual friend and they were still on the beer Wednesday night!!

    Either way all that aside they are only amateur lads at the end of the days and should be allowed let off a bit of steam within reason as someone else has said.

    Here's hoping the loss might give our lads some sort of a kick up the arse to play some football or else there will be another season passed with damn all to show for it!


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,869 ✭✭✭Happyilylost


    testtech05 wrote:
    It's always that way isn't it all these stories/rumours come out after a team has a loss. Maybe there is something going on in the background we will have to wait and see.

    testtech05 wrote:
    Never hear anything after a win, although I'm sure fans would give more leeway after a win! Would know a couple of the Ros players through a mutual friend and they were still on the beer Wednesday night!!

    testtech05 wrote:
    Either way all that aside they are only amateur lads at the end of the days and should be allowed let off a bit of steam within reason as someone else has said.

    testtech05 wrote:
    Here's hoping the loss might give our lads some sort of a kick up the arse to play some football or else there will be another season passed with damn all to show for it!


    Wouldn't have much issue with the drinking carry on. It's usually set out when management believe it's acceptable/Ok to go on the lash. Whether Galway won or lost the night out was probably happening as there is a decent break before the next game. Lads in there young to mid twenties are not going to turn down an opportunity like that!

    The player/wedding thing is a curious one. Be interested to see views from a hypothetical standpoint. I heard it first during the junior game Sunday and then from a player. So player wants to go to a wedding. Player approaches management. Management state if you attend you will not be considered to start but be amongst the subs. Player considers this comes back and says I will go to the wedding and accept my place on the bench. People be more critical of management or player?


  • Registered Users Posts: 104 ✭✭GalwayLurker


    Wouldn't have much issue with the drinking carry on. It's usually set out when management believe it's acceptable/Ok to go on the lash. Whether Galway won or lost the night out was probably happening as there is a decent break before the next game. Lads in there young to mid twenties are not going to turn down an opportunity like that!

    The player/wedding thing is a curious one. Be interested to see views from a hypothetical standpoint. I heard it first during the junior game Sunday and then from a player. So player wants to go to a wedding. Player approaches management. Management state if you attend you will not be considered to start but be amongst the subs. Player considers this comes back and says I will go to the wedding and accept my place on the bench. People be more critical of management or player?

    And who are the management to say he's not allowed to attend a wedding? He's not being paid, no contracts involved etc, do they not trust their players to behave responsibly before a big game? Ridiculous!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,825 ✭✭✭Doctors room ghost


    Does he stand between two sticks?

    Got it in one


  • Registered Users Posts: 822 ✭✭✭MattressRick


    Was the wedding the night before the Connacht final? That's the only justification for telling a player he can't attend. If the wedding was the weekend before then the clout intercounty managers think they have is gone too far. In that case the player is well within his rights to tell them to F off.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 1,869 ✭✭✭Happyilylost


    Was the wedding the night before the Connacht final? That's the only justification for telling a player he can't attend. If the wedding was the weekend before then the clout intercounty managers think they have is gone too far. In that case the player is well within his rights to tell them to F off.


    Friday.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,016 ✭✭✭JJJackal


    Friday.

    If your having a few pints the Friday night before the Connacht final you probably wont be in condition for the full 70


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,825 ✭✭✭Doctors room ghost


    JJJackal wrote: »
    If your having a few pints the Friday night before the Connacht final you probably wont be in condition for the full 70

    He had no pints.stayed for the dinner and hit off.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,489 ✭✭✭PCeeeee


    He had no pints.stayed for the dinner and hit off.

    If indeed that's the case then it's absolutely ludicrous. Why can't a man go to a dinner??


  • Registered Users Posts: 822 ✭✭✭MattressRick


    JJJackal wrote: »
    Friday.

    If your having a few pints the Friday night before the Connacht final you probably wont be in condition for the full 70

    There'd be nothing wrong with going, not drinking and leaving at midnight. If KW didn't trust him to do that, then what's expected of intercounty players is actually ridiculous.
    Then again, the lad would have umpteen people throughout the day and night saying jokingly they hope he didn't touch the wine, that kinda thing. So he'd have no peace anyway. But again, the expectations on these lads are just ridiculous.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 1,869 ✭✭✭Happyilylost


    I won't get much into it but what I know was there is some sort of players charter agreed by the players that functions the weekend of a match were off limits at the start of the year.

    This would of fallen into that category. Player approached management to see the story. Wasn't told he couldn't attend but the consequences of his decision was explained to him. He considered it and decided on the wedding. The whole you can't have one rule for one and a different one for everyone else comes into it. There was also a team meet up Friday that he did not attend as far as I'm aware.

    Still wished the player had started but I do see the difficult position management were in. I'm sure plenty of lads were up later playing FIFA or whatever later than what he stayed at the wedding for.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,489 ✭✭✭PCeeeee


    The daft 'charter' puts managment in a difficult position. Really needs to be more trust in lads.


  • Registered Users Posts: 104 ✭✭GalwayLurker


    This whole charter, asking for permission etc points to management not trusting their players. Ridiculous, if it was a brother or sister of a player that was getting married would they be expected to miss the wedding because of this charter?

    On another note, I was at the Corofin v St James game this evening, Corofin are a joy to watch, missing half their team through injury, abroad etc but you'd never know, the young lads that played instead fitted in seamlessly. Now that the hurlers are out you'd hope someone might approach David Morris and ask him to give a few pointers regarding our forward play. The wedding had no lasting effect on Power either by the way, as assured as ever even though he didn't have too much to deal with. Martin Farragher was excellent, scored 3-4 I think. Ian Burke was back to himself, Molloy had a quiet first half but a good second half and was very lively. Liam Silke was solid but not too much was asked of him in all honesty. Conroy played the whole game for James's, didn't have too much of an influence, made some great runs but looks a bit off full match fitness yet.


  • Registered Users Posts: 693 ✭✭✭grbear


    According to Paul Galvins in the Sunday Times Ruairi Lavelle plays for Corofin and was very impressive against Ballintubber last December.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,869 ✭✭✭Happyilylost


    ClareGalway 3-16 to Leitir Mor 6 points. Cummins with two goals (one a penalty). Played ok. Sean Andy not so much. Sean Moran was outstanding for ClareGalway (I've no idea how this lad never got a look in at county level)

    Spideal 1-8 to 6 points up at half time Antaine O'Laoi kicking some beauties. His Brother scored the goal.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,930 ✭✭✭jr86


    Sean Moran was outstanding for ClareGalway (I've no idea how this lad never got a look in at county level)

    Apparently declined an invite in a few times. Its a disgrace otherwise

    Litir Mor well and truly headed for intermediate. I'm still amazed they somehow survived last year.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,930 ✭✭✭jr86


    ClareGalway 3-16 to Leitir Mor 6 points. Cummins with two goals (one a penalty). Played ok. Sean Andy not so much. Sean Moran was outstanding for ClareGalway (I've no idea how this lad never got a look in at county level)

    Spideal 1-8 to 6 points up at half time Antaine O'Laoi kicking some beauties. His Brother scored the goal.

    There seems to be some serious issues with Milltown this year

    9 points down in injury time against Killererin who can't buy a win in division 3 and hammered by Spideal who are only just up from intermediate. Arguably the two worst sides in the group

    They had a great campaign last year, this is baffling stuff


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,869 ✭✭✭Happyilylost


    Spideal 2-15 to Milltown 12 points. Two O Laoi's fantastic for Spideal with Antaine running the show. Seems to be a good weekend for the Galway panel. Hopefully last weekend will be forgotten.

    Edited this as I realised our midfield is short. No Duggan for Annaghdown Friday and no Tom Flynn for Athenry. Unsure if FOC featured this weekend.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,383 ✭✭✭✭Utopia Parkway


    grbear wrote: »
    According to Paul Galvins in the Sunday Times Ruairi Lavelle plays for Corofin and was very impressive against Ballintubber last December.

    That article was absolutely terrible. He should stick to selling his long johns in Dunnes.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,268 ✭✭✭threeball


    ClareGalway 3-16 to Leitir Mor 6 points. Cummins with two goals (one a penalty). Played ok. Sean Andy not so much. Sean Moran was outstanding for ClareGalway (I've no idea how this lad never got a look in at county level)

    Spideal 1-8 to 6 points up at half time Antaine O'Laoi kicking some beauties. His Brother scored the goal.

    Sean Andy is carrying too much weight and hasn't been performing for Galway apart from the first year he joined the panel. Unfortunately it's a position we have very few options in and he knows it. Far too comfortable with his position. Could do with being dropped for a few games.


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