Coronavirus in Limerick City

thesimpsons · 11-10-2020 6:45pm

phill106 wrote: »

i too was in jetland and pissed off at the sneeze guards people are wearing in place of masks. No point in complaining in dunnes, or in the chemist there, because they both sell the dam things.

Some staff and visiting shelf stackers are all wearing them in Jetland anyway. wish the management would police them - they do have a sign saying customers should have full nose and mouth coverings.

RivetingRoger · 11-10-2020 6:49pm

munstergirl wrote: »

54 cases in Limerick on the 9th Oct according to covid app. Previous 2 weeks 286.

How come they not highlighting this?
Heard a very significant number now in City again, in particular northside of the City, and a cluster in Kilmallock linked to a lads holiday to Greece

the_blackstuff · 11-10-2020 7:20pm

phill106 wrote: »

i too was in jetland and pissed off at the sneeze guards people are wearing in place of masks. No point in complaining in dunnes, or in the chemist there, because they both sell the dam things.

Those sneeze guards pi$$ me right off. I actually get angry when I see them. They give no protection to anybody. Absolutely pointless! Just wear a mask

munstergirl · 11-10-2020 7:22pm

The Dept of health daily briefing only gives the counties with the highest cases, and then cases spread between other counties. The covid app is 2 days behind on daily cases per county.

kilburn · 11-10-2020 7:50pm

RivetingRoger wrote:

How come they not highlighting this? Heard a very significant number now in City again, in particular northside of the City, and a cluster in Kilmallock linked to a lads holiday to Greece

Few cases popping up in schools on the Northside at the minute also which is expected

brianregan09 · 11-10-2020 8:50pm

the_blackstuff wrote: »

Those sneeze guards pi$$ me right off. I actually get angry when I see them. They give no protection to anybody. Absolutely pointless! Just wear a mask

I wear a face shield (i have cystic fibrosis) so it's hard enough to even wear that , I simply can't wear a mask , i work in a spar but i'm behind the perspex all the time , they're not as good as masks agreed but to say they're pointless is silly

chicorytip · 11-10-2020 9:43pm

the_blackstuff wrote: »

Those sneeze guards pi$$ me right off. I actually get angry when I see them. They give no protection to anybody. Absolutely pointless! Just wear a mask

Many people find wearing masks difficult and uncomfortable for various reasons. Asthmatics, for example, or people with other lung conditions who normally experience breathing difficulties. People who have to wear glasses. Wearing a shield rather than a mask may be a necessity for some and they are quite adequate in preventing the spray of droplets.

ChewBerecca · 11-10-2020 9:52pm

brianregan09 wrote: »

I wear a face shield (i have cystic fibrosis) so it's hard enough to even wear that , I simply can't wear a mask , i work in a spar but i'm behind the perspex all the time , they're not as good as masks agreed but to say they're pointless is silly

In your case the shield is warranted as you can't wear a mask so the shield is better than nothing. I'd say the pointless comment is aimed at those too lazy and too ignorant to wear a mask.

On a side note, are Limerick GPs testing if there's a confirmed case at work? Himself got a call saying they don't think he's impacted but they're deep cleaning the place as a precaution. He hasn't been feeling 100% this week but we thought it was the change in weather because he only leaves the house for work (I do the weekly shop because I'm WFH). He hasn't had a call from contact tracing but wondering if its safer to just ring the GP tomorrow?

the_blackstuff · 11-10-2020 9:52pm

chicorytip wrote: »

Many people find wearing masks difficult and uncomfortable for various reasons. Asthmatics, for example, or people with other lung conditions who normally experience breathing difficulties. People who have to wear glasses. Wearing a shield rather than a mask may be a necessity for some and they are quite adequate in preventing the spray of droplets.

I can see Brian's point and I fully accept it. I hadn't thought of that if I'm honest but if your wearing a shield just because your not arsed wearing a mask it's not on. The level of protection is really poor on both sides of the shield. For glasses wearers the disposable mask work well, they are cooler as well.

the_blackstuff · 11-10-2020 9:56pm

ChewBerecca wrote: »

. I'd say the pointless comment is aimed at those too lazy and too ignorant to wear a mask.

That's where I was going with that comment. Masks are best. I know people wearing shields that have no reason not to have a mask on!

Treepole · 11-10-2020 10:01pm

kilburn wrote: »

Not getting into it as I will get a ban or warning for you dragging the thread off topic.

Everyone else will lose out when thread is closed again then.

Been to Ratkeale many times used to work there lovely town lovely people they keep to themselves and bother no one.

Spike in cases in Rathkeale was due to people returning home from across the continent during lockdown.

Same thing would happen anywhere with a large influx of locals returning home.

Not sure what is causing the spike in NCW though is it down the football?

Because NCW has a very similar demographic to Rathkeale, and a similar demographic to Askeaton.

Mc Love · 11-10-2020 10:48pm

brianregan09 wrote: »

I wear a face shield (i have cystic fibrosis) so it's hard enough to even wear that , I simply can't wear a mask , i work in a spar but i'm behind the perspex all the time , they're not as good as masks agreed but to say they're pointless is silly

They are pointless - they only block 2% of potentially harrmful aersosols.

brianregan09 · 11-10-2020 10:58pm

So your saying if i sneeze full belt with a face shield on , that it'll only stop 2 % of that ?

Mc Love · 11-10-2020 11:10pm

YUSS

https://www.irishtimes.com/news/ireland/irish-news/visors-verdict-they-don-t-work-and-may-actually-spread-coronavirus-1.4375916

Dr Robert’s concerns about the increasing popularity of face visors instead of face masks and their ineffectiveness were echoed by UCD engineer Dr Kevin Nolan.

The academic has spent recent months working out of the Mater Hospital in Dublin deploying various technologies based around light, mirrors and lasers to display how far virus carrying droplets can travel and how long they can linger in the air.

He has also been able to demonstrate how effective or otherwise face coverings and visors are. "Face visors just don’t work,” Dr Nolan told The Irish Times.

Using what is known as Schlieren technology – a physics principle dating back more than a century which relies on high-spec mirrors and light to show the density of fluids and gases and the speed and distance they can move when people breathe, cough and sneeze – he has demonstrated that visors offer little or protection for a wearer.

“The way visors are designed mean that anyone wearing one can easily inhale the aerosols around them as the visors offer virtually no protection,” Dr Nolan said.

kilburn · 11-10-2020 11:12pm

ChewBerecca wrote:

On a side note, are Limerick GPs testing if there's a confirmed case at work? Himself got a call saying they don't think he's impacted but they're deep cleaning the place as a precaution. He hasn't been feeling 100% this week but we thought it was the change in weather because he only leaves the house for work (I do the weekly shop because I'm WFH). He hasn't had a call from contact tracing but wondering if its safer to just ring the GP tomorrow?

If you have a reasonable GP just discuss it with them.

Is it a job he can do from home?

ChewBerecca · 11-10-2020 11:22pm

kilburn wrote: »

If you have a reasonable GP just discuss it with them.

Is it a job he can do from home?

He's been in the office since lockdown began. If he went WFH, someone else on his team would have to go in.

Might try see what the GP says, better safe than sorry. Just wondering if anyone had hit a dead end trying to get a test this way. No contact tracing call, but he could have used the same kitchen area or toilets as the positive case so hard to tell.

kilburn · 11-10-2020 11:34pm

ChewBerecca wrote:

Might try see what the GP says, better safe than sorry. Just wondering if anyone had hit a dead end trying to get a test this way. No contact tracing call, but he could have used the same kitchen area or toilets as the positive case so hard to tell.

We were in the same position after explaining situation to the GP they didn't hesitate to recommend a test

Potential-Monke · 11-10-2020 11:52pm

I'd say GP's err on the side of caution and would recommend a test anyway. Aside from my own thought that a GP would be better safe than sorry, we now also live in the times of suing for everything, so no doubt someone will eventually take a GP to court for not recommending they go for a test and subsequently find out they have it. People are dicks so it would definitely happen.

Was back at the local shop, every single person wearing a mask, staff and all, except for 2 little shytes who think they didn't need it. Lads must be 15/16, walking around the shop, aisle to aisle, on their phones, laughing, joking, pushing each other. As they went to pass me, I asked where their masks are, and after the initial "Ugh, someone is speaking to me" look, they said they forgot them, so I said get back on your fcuking bikes (they were outside the shop) and go get them. Went about my shopping, didn't see them again, bikes gone. Waiting on the phonecall from the Gardai now for cursing at the poor angles.

Just, why can't people just wear something.

bigpink · 12-10-2020 12:14am

Potential-Monke wrote: »

I'd say GP's err on the side of caution and would recommend a test anyway. Aside from my own thought that a GP would be better safe than sorry, we now also live in the times of suing for everything, so no doubt someone will eventually take a GP to court for not recommending they go for a test and subsequently find out they have it. People are dicks so it would definitely happen.

Was back at the local shop, every single person wearing a mask, staff and all, except for 2 little shytes who think they didn't need it. Lads must be 15/16, walking around the shop, aisle to aisle, on their phones, laughing, joking, pushing each other. As they went to pass me, I asked where their masks are, and after the initial "Ugh, someone is speaking to me" look, they said they forgot them, so I said get back on your fcuking bikes (they were outside the shop) and go get them. Went about my shopping, didn't see them again, bikes gone. Waiting on the phonecall from the Gardai now for cursing at the poor angles.

Just, why can't people just wear something.

Fair play you should have seen the scumbags in the Green park stores on Friday night..all girls/women in PJ's no masks roaring and shouting.Also poor kids in tow

ChewBerecca · 12-10-2020 12:32am

Can we try not to get this thread closed again?

bigpink · 12-10-2020 12:45am

ChewBerecca wrote: »

Can we try not to get this thread closed again?

Is it wrong to say the Traveller community are spreading the virus and ignoring precautions and testing?
This goes for us settled folk too but they wanted ethnic status so I can call them Travellers

phog · 12-10-2020 9:06am

brianregan09 wrote: »

So your saying if i sneeze full belt with a face shield on , that it'll only stop 2 % of that ?

Mc Love wrote: »

YUSS

https://www.irishtimes.com/news/ireland/irish-news/visors-verdict-they-don-t-work-and-may-actually-spread-coronavirus-1.4375916

This does not answer the question raised by brianregan09

un5byh7sqpd2x0 · 12-10-2020 9:28am

phog wrote: »

This does not answer the question raised by brianregan09

Yeah it does... "International studies have shown that while high-grade N95 face masks blocked 99 per cent of aerosols and surgical mask blocked 59 per cent of aerosols, face shields or visors blocked only 2 per cent of potentially harmful aerosols."

Here's a video which demonstrates how useless visor are. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WT3zi7YczkY

kilburn · 12-10-2020 9:36am

James McNulty wrote:

The dogs on the street know this is true but some people on this thread are taking offence by proxy. Unless we deal where the outbreaks and clusters are, we'll never get through this.

I think it's more a case of we don't want the thread closed again rather than offence by proxy.

Interesting story on RTE & Limerick Leader litter survey showing that PPE is now common rubbish across the country and the city has lost its clean status.

There are face masks thrown on the ground pretty much everywhere across the city it really is disgusting.

Rubbish and dog dirt is bad but dumping a potentially contagious face mask is just rank.

Outside secondary schools is pretty bad too, really don't get why people think it's ok to do that.

Are there any council by laws where the City Council can show leadership and request or bring in by laws for mask wearing?

breezy1985 · 12-10-2020 9:40am

ChewBerecca wrote: »

He's been in the office since lockdown began. If he went WFH, someone else on his team would have to go in.

Might try see what the GP says, better safe than sorry. Just wondering if anyone had hit a dead end trying to get a test this way. No contact tracing call, but he could have used the same kitchen area or toilets as the positive case so hard to tell.

My GP was reluctant but I got the test in a similar situation. If he's not feeling great and you have access to a thermometer give that a go as well even just to ease your mind a little

breezy1985 · 12-10-2020 9:43am

bigpink wrote: »

Is it wrong to say the Traveller community are spreading the virus and ignoring precautions and testing?
This goes for us settled folk too but they wanted ethnic status so I can call them Travellers

I'm pretty sure it's confirmed that there have been outbreaks among Limerick travellers but there is no evidence that they are breaking rules or dodging tests any more than anyone else so all your gonna do is get this thread shut down again

phog · 12-10-2020 10:04am

Moses Raspy Safari wrote: »

Yeah it does... "International studies have shown that while high-grade N95 face masks blocked 99 per cent of aerosols and surgical mask blocked 59 per cent of aerosols, face shields or visors blocked only 2 per cent of potentially harmful aerosols."

Here's a video which demonstrates how useless visor are. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WT3zi7YczkY

This quote is not in the quote from McLove which I said was not answering the question.

I'm on work PC so can't look at YouTube clips so can't comment on that

un5byh7sqpd2x0 · 12-10-2020 10:10am

phog wrote: »

This quote is not in the quote from McLove which I said was not answering the question.

I'm on work PC so can't look at YouTube clips so can't comment on that

It’s in the article he linked to, where his quote is from though.

phog · 12-10-2020 10:33am

Moses Raspy Safari wrote: »

It’s in the article he linked to, where his quote is from though.

I know that now but why the christ would he quote something from an article that doesn't answer the question he was trying to answer - mind boggling

MarkR · 12-10-2020 11:20am

One person banned from the forum for a week. Anyone else wants to join them, please let me know.

I'm not aware of any studies showing the members of the travelling community are flouting rules. If you have that to support your argument, please let me know.

OfTheMarsWongs · 12-10-2020 11:24am

https://www.limerickleader.ie/news/home/580322/limerick-school-sends-sixth-year-students-home-after-a-number-of-positive-covid-19-cases-confirmed.html

"A WHOLE year of students has been sent home after a number of positive Covid-19 cases were confirmed at a school in Limerick. "

RivetingRoger · 12-10-2020 11:29am

Treepole wrote: »

Because NCW has a very similar demographic to Rathkeale, and a similar demographic to Askeaton.

Edit: Poster disagrees strongly.

kilburn · 12-10-2020 3:25pm

That School is actually a cluster didn't realise that

MarkR · 12-10-2020 3:26pm

Picture this everyone, before you post. Think about who is going to read it. You may have strongly held opinions. You may even be right. If it's not 100% factual though, that can cause trouble. If you wouldn't be happy with having your comment posted to the front page of your local newspaper, with your name and address attached, then don't post it here.

maebee · 12-10-2020 3:55pm

kilburn wrote: »

That School is actually a cluster didn't realise that

Is it a city school?

Car99 · 12-10-2020 3:59pm

maebee wrote: »

Is it a city school?

No

kilburn · 12-10-2020 4:53pm

Car99 wrote:

No

Must be a second school you are referring to as the one I presumed the article is about is very much a city school where all 6th years were advised to stay home for this week.

Full class sent home from local national school as well both of above schools on the Northside of city.

Car99 · 12-10-2020 5:04pm

kilburn wrote: »

Must be a second school you are referring to as the one I presumed the article is about is very much a city school where all 6th years were advised to stay home for this week.

Full class sent home from local national school as well both of above schools on the Northside of city.

Must be a second school as the one I'm referring to in 20 miles outside the city.

Cartman78 · 12-10-2020 5:19pm

Is there any reason why the schools in question can't be named here??

A member of staff in our after school has been identified as a close contact so it's back to a double pick up which is tricky to say the least when working from home.

I know there's lots of people worse off but I don't know how sustainable any of this is in the medium to long term both for ourselves and people in general

kilburn · 12-10-2020 5:22pm

I haven't named as wasn't sure it's allowed

Maybe MODS can advise.

Mc Love · 12-10-2020 8:33pm

phog wrote: »

I know that now but why the christ would he quote something from an article that doesn't answer the question he was trying to answer - mind boggling

What's mind boggling is what was the question in the first place?

ChewBerecca · 12-10-2020 8:39pm

Seen Fergal Bowers posted the incident rate by county on twitter earlier, in order of highest to lowest (I'd link, but on the phone so go search yerselves).

Limerick is high (167.8), but middle ground in terms of the country overall. If we can just keep our interactions low, and not act the eejit we could drop further next time its released.

Mc Love · 12-10-2020 9:13pm

Wear Masks not visors
https://twitter.com/rtenews/status/1315725759122731011

yop · 12-10-2020 10:29pm

On naming the school if you have a link to the school been confirmed then post it.
But naming it and if it turns out it's not true then the school could come after us.

As said earlier if you'd not put it on the front page of The Leader with your own name then don't do it here. ☺️

un5byh7sqpd2x0 · 12-10-2020 10:45pm

yop wrote: »

On naming the school if you have a link to the school been confirmed then post it.
But naming it and if it turns out it's not true then the school could come after us.

As said earlier if you'd not put it on the front page of The Leader with your own name then don't do it here. ☺️

How about a copy of a HSE letter?

maebee · 12-10-2020 11:09pm

It's a city centre school. Word is that there was a big crowd of 6th years at an 18th birthday party last week.

overthebridge · 13-10-2020 5:14am

There's a fairly active Facebook group that puts up info on confirmed cases in schools throughout Ireland. The attach written confirmation with each post.
Be it a mail or text from the school or HSE. Limerick has been mentioned several times in the last few days.

I can pm anyone who wants the link for the group or if it's ok'd by the mods I can post it here.

kilburn · 13-10-2020 6:34am

Posted about that group previously and got savaged with people saying it's hearsay, you can't win.

I have an email and text message from our local school as do 800 other families with kids there.

overthebridge · 13-10-2020 6:42am

kilburn wrote: »

Posted about that group previously and got savaged with people saying it's hearsay, you can't win.

I have an email and text message from our local school as do 800 other families with kids there.

I have the same email and text I think. Hopefully the individual in question is OK and with any luck no others were infected.

stefanovich · 13-10-2020 10:30am

Moses Raspy Safari wrote: »

How about a copy of a HSE letter?

They have been faked before. I personally wouldn't trust a scanned letter.

Coronavirus in Limerick City

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