Gang Rape in Kildare

Beechwoodspark · 15-06-2018 8:28am

_Dara_ wrote: »

I’ve only experienced a sleazy taxi driver once. He was Irish.

Well in my experience,
I’ve met plenty of sleazy/pig ignorant/angry/confused about the route and or the fare, “foreign national” taxi men. Mainly west African, some Asian.

Anecdotally the vast majority of “native irish” taxi men I’ve encountered have been fine

Captain Obvious · 15-06-2018 10:25am

youtube! wrote: »

How the hell can you deny it? I don't know of a single "gang rape case from Irish rapists in collusion with each other, however there are literally hundreds of Islamic and other rape culture incidents across Europe for years now. You'll deny it till it happens to one of your own, then you'll wake up ..a bit too late.

I know of plenty of such cases. What position are you in to hear about them? Are you an investigator? A rape counsellor? Perhaps a court clerk or nurse?

Omackeral wrote: »

Is it not? Sexual assault in Kildare where 3 males are involved and they're foreign nationals. No nothing alike.

The only similarity in the crimes is they are suspected non Irish people. That's it. One case involves an act of defilement among four youths at a house party with a pre existing relationship. The other involves three men attacking a random woman on the street and one of them raping her.

Omackeral wrote: »

Another reason it's brought up is because he still plays football at the highest level in this country week in and week out and makes a living from it. Children attend the games.

It's normal to be attracted to peers. A the time of his crime I believe there was less than 18 months in the difference of their ages and he had a pre existing relationship with her. Why you think that would make him a danger to children as an adult is a bit perplexing. Where you attracted to people you own age in your teens? Are you attracted to them now?

Omackeral wrote: »

Then there's this. Not sure of the context but poor either way.

I've seen better quality images of big foot. But even assuming that is real, I still ask what relevance is it to this incident in Clane? It's just another example of people using a victim of sexual assault to try push their xenophobia.

taylor3 wrote: »

Just reading this thread. I wholeheartedly agree with the content of 'youtubes' post. I as a woman believe it's the idea that the attackers are acting as a group or gang that is truly scary. That would be a new thing. I remember growing up in the 80's and 90's and when news would break of a woman being attacked, mugged, raped etc; it was always a lone male, and yes he would be white Irish too, as we really didn't have many non national back then.
So when I hear of 3 men attacking/raping a woman I'm sorry but I will always wonder who the perpetrators are and from what background.

It most certainly is not a new thing in Ireland nor by any means an immigrant thing.

https://www.independent.ie/irish-news/jail-for-teens-who-locked-man-in-boot-before-raping-his-girlfriend-25908602.html

FOUR teenagers who locked a man in the boot of a car and then took turns raping his girlfriend have received sentences ranging from four to 10 years at the Central Criminal Court.

iebamm2580 · 15-06-2018 10:42am

Captain Obvious wrote: »

iebamm2580 wrote: »

Im not sure of the stats but when it comes to gang rapes i would imagine the proportion of foreign nationals committing this sort of crime compared to Irish is significantly higher.

Yes I would suspect your imagination contains a lot of "facts" like that.

Wheeliebin30 wrote: »

https://theukdatabase.com/2014/11/01/3-kildare-residents-each-receive-suspended-sentences-for-sexual-abuse-of-schoolgirl/

Meet professional football Ismaheel Akinade of WATERFORD FC

This is an exposure of a convicted offender who was involved/watched gang rape of a schoolgirl who not only walked free from court, but managed to silence five national newspapers with the help of high flying barristers.

The Irish Independent, Irish Examiner, Breaking news Eire, Sunday World and Nationalist and Leinster times all had court injunctions taken out on them to hide his conviction.

Ironically, the judge Justice Bernard Barton presided over all of the cases

Akinade was due to be deported after his conviction, but was granted asylum by Justice Barton because he was a ‘hot prosepect for the future for Irish football’

That link is full of nonsense. He was 16 at the time of that incident and the girl was 14. That's why his information was not released, he was a minor. None of them were convicted of rape, it was defilement, commonly known as statutory rape. And since when does the judge in a criminal trial have the ability to grant a defendant asylum? What kind of manure reporting is that?

Would you say im totally wrong so that most gang rapes are by foreign nationals? Percentage proportion im talking about.

iebamm2580 · 15-06-2018 10:43am

Captain Obvious wrote: »

iebamm2580 wrote: »

Im not sure of the stats but when it comes to gang rapes i would imagine the proportion of foreign nationals committing this sort of crime compared to Irish is significantly higher.

Yes I would suspect your imagination contains a lot of "facts" like that.

Wheeliebin30 wrote: »

https://theukdatabase.com/2014/11/01/3-kildare-residents-each-receive-suspended-sentences-for-sexual-abuse-of-schoolgirl/

Meet professional football Ismaheel Akinade of WATERFORD FC

This is an exposure of a convicted offender who was involved/watched gang rape of a schoolgirl who not only walked free from court, but managed to silence five national newspapers with the help of high flying barristers.

The Irish Independent, Irish Examiner, Breaking news Eire, Sunday World and Nationalist and Leinster times all had court injunctions taken out on them to hide his conviction.

Ironically, the judge Justice Bernard Barton presided over all of the cases

Akinade was due to be deported after his conviction, but was granted asylum by Justice Barton because he was a ‘hot prosepect for the future for Irish football’

That link is full of nonsense. He was 16 at the time of that incident and the girl was 14. That's why his information was not released, he was a minor. None of them were convicted of rape, it was defilement, commonly known as statutory rape. And since when does the judge in a criminal trial have the ability to grant a defendant asylum? What kind of manure reporting is that?

Would you say im totally wrong so that most gang rapes are by foreign nationals? Percentage proportion im talking about.

Princess Consuela Bananahammock · 15-06-2018 11:37am

iebamm2580 wrote: »

Im not sure of the stats but when it comes to gang rapes i would imagine the proportion of foreign nationals committing this sort of crime compared to Irish is significantly higher.

The question isn't are you right - I'm not even sure the data even exists to prove or disprove you - the question is: WHY do you imagine this to be the case? What influenced your opinion?

iebamm2580 · 15-06-2018 11:46am

Basically reports from Europe, im just talking about this particular type of crime and to argue against it is just ignoring the blatant culture that exists among certain communities. Again im not tarring all the one race im just saying its more prevalent in certain communities. I dont know why some people on here so ardently try to disagree with common knowledge.

Captain Obvious · 15-06-2018 11:46am

iebamm2580 wrote: »

Would you say im totally wrong so that most gang rapes are by foreign nationals? Percentage proportion im talking about.

In Ireland? Absolutely.

iebamm2580 · 15-06-2018 11:48am

Captain Obvious wrote: »

iebamm2580 wrote: »

Would you say im totally wrong so that most gang rapes are by foreign nationals? Percentage proportion im talking about.

In Ireland? Absolutely.

So your saying percentage populaion of ireland versus immigrants there has been more gang rapes by irish men than foreign nationals? Take the last twenty years as a fairer reflection as we have many more immigrants nowadays.

Captain Obvious · 15-06-2018 11:51am

iebamm2580 wrote: »

So your saying percentage populaion of ireland versus immigrants there has been more gang rapes by irish men than foreign nationals? Take the last twenty years as a fairer reflection as we have many more immigrants nowadays.

Based on my experience in the criminal justice system over the past 12 years I would say yes.

iebamm2580 · 15-06-2018 11:51am

Captain Obvious wrote: »

iebamm2580 wrote: »

So your saying percentage populaion of ireland versus immigrants there has been more gang rapes by irish men than foreign nationals? Take the last twenty years as a fairer reflection as we have many more immigrants nowadays.

Based on my experience in the criminal justice system over the past 12 years I would say yes.

Fair enough man.

Princess Consuela Bananahammock · 15-06-2018 11:56am

iebamm2580 wrote: »

Basically reports from Europe, im just talking about this particular type of crime and to argue against it is just ignoring the blatant culture that exists among certain communities. Again im not tarring all the one race im just saying its more prevalent in certain communities. I dont know why some people on here so ardently try to disagree with common knowledge.

Interesting - you've gone from "I would imagine" to "common knowledge".

It depends on how you define "common knowledge". Reminds of that wonderful Brass Eye line: "Now that is scientific fact. There's no real evidence to support it, but it IS sicentific fact."

For now, I'm of the opinion it's confirmation bias on your part

iebamm2580 · 15-06-2018 12:00pm

Its common knowledge whats happening in Europe so i extrapolated that to i would imagine in Ireland so no not very interesting.

Gwen Cooper · 15-06-2018 12:09pm

iebamm2580 wrote: »

Its common knowledge whats happening in Europe so i extrapolated that to i would imagine in Ireland so no not very interesting.

I don't know the official stats and don't have time to look for them at the moment, but keep in mind that the rapes by immigrants that happen in Europe are usually the ones that get international attention, as the media know that this topic sells at the moment.

You most likely won't hear about the rape cases committed by the natives, unless it sparks a national outrage or unless the victim is a foreign national.

iebamm2580 · 15-06-2018 12:11pm

Gwen Cooper wrote: »

iebamm2580 wrote: »

Its common knowledge whats happening in Europe so i extrapolated that to i would imagine in Ireland so no not very interesting.

I don't know the official stats and don't have time to look for them at the moment, but keep in mind that the rapes by immigrants are usually the ones that get international attention, as the media know that this topic sells at the moment.

You most likely won't hear about the rape cases committed by the natives, unless it sparks a national outrage or unless the victim is a foreign national.

Im simply talking about gang rapes im sure even native gang rapes would be publicized, anyway im off this topic. Better do some work.

Captain Obvious · 15-06-2018 12:20pm

iebamm2580 wrote: »

Im simply talking about gang rapes im sure even native gang rapes would be publicized, anyway im off this topic. Better do some work.

But they aren't. Only in exceptional circumstances will they make national news.

Princess Consuela Bananahammock · 15-06-2018 12:35pm

iebamm2580 wrote: »

Its common knowledge whats happening in Europe so i extrapolated that to i would imagine in Ireland so no not very interesting.

Except... this is bull****, isn't it? Again, you contrdict yourself: you said "I don't know the official stats" but somehow it's "common knowlege"...? How the **** does THAT work?!

Furthermore this "common knowledge" is of "what's happening in Europe" - well tell me, how often do you hear of sexual attacks being commited in Europe by people from the same European country?

Wouldn't you need this knowledge to form an accurate opinion?

MFPM · 15-06-2018 12:46pm

backspin. wrote: »

If you want a clue as to what we will be facing in this country in the coming years look to the experiences of Sweden, Germany, France, England etc. Why do you think we will be any different?

Yet we've have two decades of fairly significant immigration without major issues.

MFPM · 15-06-2018 12:49pm

iebamm2580 wrote: »

Would you say im totally wrong so that most gang rapes are by foreign nationals? Percentage proportion im talking about.

You haven't provided any figures to back your assertion so as of now it's simply your unsubstantiated opinion.

15-06-2018 12:55pm

AnneFrank wrote: »

Yes i'm not arguing with that, but a much higher % are black foreign nationals,
no woman i know will get into a taxi with a black driver by herself,
Un pc to say, but it's the reality

Not a single woman you know? Not one? You must not know very many so. That is not the reality. Please stop speaking for women.

Especially since despite your username you are a man.

I am a woman. Your post certainly doesn't reflect my reality or the reality of my female friends or family.

SnakePlissken · 15-06-2018 1:16pm

Princess Consuela Bananahammock wrote: »

The question isn't are you right - I'm not even sure the data even exists to prove or disprove you - the question is: WHY do you imagine this to be the case? What influenced your opinion?

Perhaps he's a bigot... or maybe, and this might be a stretch, but as 75% of all gang rapes and grooming gangs in the UK hail from a pool of just 3% of the overall population, ie, Muslim men, the poster has surmised that Ireland's statistics may be quite similar.

I certainly won't hold my breath for you to answer, but as the statistics from the UK all give clear indication that Muslim men have a propensity for abusing women, (12% of all convictions for sexual assault of any nature are Muslim men in fact), do you believe foreign nationals entering Ireland who have identical cultural and religious backgrounds as those abusers in the UK, are more likely to abuse women than their European, East-Asian or South American counterparts?

SnakePlissken · 15-06-2018 1:26pm

Captain Obvious wrote: »

In Ireland? Absolutely.

You of course have provable statistics to verify this? Please feel free to share them with the rest of us.

Princess Consuela Bananahammock · 15-06-2018 1:32pm

SnakePlissken wrote: »

Perhaps he's a bigot... or maybe, and this might be a stretch, but as 75% of all gang rapes and grooming gangs in the UK hail from a pool of just 3% of the overall population, ie, Muslim men, the poster has surmised that Ireland's statistics may be quite similar.

Well, that's what I'm trying to ascertain. The difference for me between the intelligent person and a bigot is that the intelligent man does research before forming an opinion, the bigot just forms the opinion straight away.

Of course he could be right - but he could be right and a bigot at the same time. As I said, that's what I'm trying to ascertain.

I certainly won't hold my breath for you to answer, but as the statistics from the UK all give clear indication that Muslim men have a propensity for abusing women, (12% of all convictions for sexual assault of any nature are Muslim men in fact), do you believe foreign nationals entering Ireland who have identical cultural and religious backgrounds as those abusers in the UK, are more likely to abuse women than their European, East-Asian or South American counterparts?

Oh ye of little faith!

Can you link to the source for that stat? I'm not claiming it's made up or anything, I'd just like to see where it's coming from and how it was formed.

Also, I'm not sure I follow the question: those are very specific and yet at the same time, vague geographic locations: a person can be from a Muslim background and still be European.

SnakePlissken · 15-06-2018 1:37pm

Princess Consuela Bananahammock wrote: »

Except... this is bull****, isn't it?

Except it's not, and let's be clear here, I'm not talking about hearsay or gossip or which cases are written about in the Red Tops and which ones that aren't, I'm referencing conviction rates, provable statistics that only a buffoon would argue against, and they are as follows;

Muslim men account for only 3% of the entire mainland UK population, and yet Muslim men are responsible for 12% of all convictions relating to sexual abuse of any type, and 75% of convictions for grooming and abuse relating to more than one attacker.

So no Princess Consulela, it's not bull****, these statistics are damning, and very, very real.

Princess Consuela Bananahammock · 15-06-2018 1:41pm

SnakePlissken wrote: »

Except it's not, and let's be clear here, I'm not talking about hearsay or gossip or which cases are written about in the Red Tops and which ones that aren't, I'm referencing conviction rates, provable statistics that only a buffoon would argue against, and they are as follows;

Muslim men account for only 3% of the entire mainland UK population, and yet Muslim men are responsible for 12% of all convictions relating to sexual abuse of any type, and 75% of convictions for grooming and abuse relating to more than one attacker.

So no Princess Consulela, it's not bull****, these statistics are damning, and very, very real.

You misunderstand - when I said it's bull****, I was referring to his knowledge on the subject. He openly stated he didn't know and then said he had common knowledge - one of those statements has to be bull****: either he has done research and he knows, or he has not and does not.

Again - I'm not saying he;s wrong and I'm not saying you're wrong - you at least appear to have done some research. He hasn't.

iebamm2580 · 15-06-2018 1:45pm

Princess Consuela Bananahammock wrote: »

SnakePlissken wrote: »

Except it's not, and let's be clear here, I'm not talking about hearsay or gossip or which cases are written about in the Red Tops and which ones that aren't, I'm referencing conviction rates, provable statistics that only a buffoon would argue against, and they are as follows;

Muslim men account for only 3% of the entire mainland UK population, and yet Muslim men are responsible for 12% of all convictions relating to sexual abuse of any type, and 75% of convictions for grooming and abuse relating to more than one attacker.

So no Princess Consulela, it's not bull****, these statistics are damning, and very, very real.

You misunderstand - when I said it's bull****, I was referring to his knowledge on the subject. He openly stated he didn't know and then said he had common knowledge - one of those statements has to be bull****: either he has done research and he knows, or he has not and does not.

Again - I'm not saying he;s wrong and I'm not saying you're wrong - you at least appear to have done some research. He hasn't.

Sorry i didnt have exaxt stats you are right but yes i had heard about the 12% rate in the uk from a 3% muslim population. You dont have to have stats to know that irish people like a drink or we have high cases of skin cancer its common knowledge as i would say. I could be right and not a bigot im sure you would agree.

Gwen Cooper · 15-06-2018 1:50pm

iebamm2580 wrote: »

Sorry i didnt have exaxt stats you are right but yes i had heard about the 12% rate in the uk from a 3% muslim population. You dont have to have stats to know that irish people like a drink or we have high cases of skin cancer its common knowledge as i would say. I could be right and not a bigot im sure you would agree.

Yes, yes you do. Until you have numbers to support your statement, it's just something you heard. Growing up in Eastern Europe, I was always told that I should avoid all black people. Then later this changed to avoiding all Muslims because it's common knowledge that they will rape me/cut my head off. Where I come from, this is "common knowledge". Except it's wrong. National ignorant bias don't make the statement true.

Billy86 · 15-06-2018 1:51pm

italodisco wrote: »

Willing to bet a substantial figure that the 3 lads were Brazilian.

Dublin is certainly overrun with them at the Mo, absolutely no benefit to our economy, they come in as students with letters from English language schools they'll never actually attend and end up cycling rickshaws.

Oh, and there's been a few of them done for rape here already...

Anyone care to make a wager

Those fuggin' black African Arab Pakistani muslims from Brazil are always at it!

iebamm2580 · 15-06-2018 1:52pm

Common Knowledge is a phrase i personally use dont take it so literally, i say it when i know general stats of the issue, didn't post exact stats as i had not got them on hand. Simple as that this is a pointless argument now.

Princess Consuela Bananahammock · 15-06-2018 1:54pm

iebamm2580 wrote: »

Sorry i didnt have exaxt stats you are right but yes i had heard about the 12% rate in the uk from a 3% muslim population. You dont have to have stats to know that irish people like a drink or we have high cases of skin cancer its common knowledge as i would say. I could be right and not a bigot im sure you would agree.

This sounds like something a dodgy politician would say when cornered by a tribunal enquiry. "Oh, I DID have it all along... I just forgot...." :rolleyes:

You didn't know, you never had the stats until Snake posted them and even then you haven't done any research to see if Snake is making it up or not, and you're STILL not interested in actually doing anything to actually find out. You're baised, your opinoin is formed on nothing more than intolerance and ignorance and that is pretty much the very definition of bigotry.

Case closed.

iebamm2580 · 15-06-2018 1:57pm

Look, snake has put you in your place with his facts and now you are turning the whole argument onto me because you cannot argue with what snake posted, if you think im going to take the time to go and post stats from the uk media no thanks. Btw what do you think of the stats that snake posted?

Grayson · 15-06-2018 1:58pm

iebamm2580 wrote: »

Sorry i didnt have exaxt stats you are right but yes i had heard about the 12% rate in the uk from a 3% muslim population. You dont have to have stats to know that irish people like a drink or we have high cases of skin cancer its common knowledge as i would say. I could be right and not a bigot im sure you would agree.

Are you comparing a genetic predisposition to skin cancer to rape? Are you actually saying it's genetic?

iebamm2580 · 15-06-2018 1:59pm

Grayson wrote: »

iebamm2580 wrote: »

Sorry i didnt have exaxt stats you are right but yes i had heard about the 12% rate in the uk from a 3% muslim population. You dont have to have stats to know that irish people like a drink or we have high cases of skin cancer its common knowledge as i would say. I could be right and not a bigot im sure you would agree.

Are you comparing a genetic predisposition to skin cancer to rape? Are you actually saying it's genetic?

OMG you are mental if you thought that.

Grayson · 15-06-2018 2:00pm

Gwen Cooper wrote: »

Yes, yes you do. Until you have numbers to support your statement, it's just something you heard. Growing up in Eastern Europe, I was always told that I should avoid all black people. Then later this changed to avoiding all Muslims because it's common knowledge that they will rape me/cut my head off. Where I come from, this is "common knowledge". Except it's wrong. National ignorant bias don't make the statement true.

Anyone using the phrase common knowledge has already lost the argument. They're trying to establish something as an a priori fact without any actual facts.

Gwen Cooper · 15-06-2018 2:00pm

iebamm2580 wrote: »

Common Knowledge is a phrase i personally use dont take it so literally, i say it when i know general stats of the issue, didn't post exact stats as i had not got them on hand. Simple as that this is a pointless argument now.

Ah, I see. So what are the general stats of the Irish people drinking then? Just wondering if there's any truth to that rumour.

Grayson · 15-06-2018 2:00pm

iebamm2580 wrote: »

OMG you are mental if you thought that.

How? you brought skin cancer into it.

iebamm2580 · 15-06-2018 2:02pm

Grayson wrote: »

iebamm2580 wrote: »

OMG you are mental if you thought that.

How? you brought skin cancer into it.

As part of my common knowledge, everybody has different common knowledge you know. I havethat particular knowledge from my college education.

iebamm2580 · 15-06-2018 2:05pm

Jesus, you dont need to have exact stats to be correct or to form an opinion that happens to be correct, how do some of ye go about the day interacting with people if you cant have an opinion unless you check google first.

Gwen Cooper · 15-06-2018 2:08pm

iebamm2580 wrote: »

As part of my common knowledge, everybody has different common knowledge you know. I havethat particular knowledge from my college education.

.....you do know that common knowledge has the word 'common' in it, right? As in... it's common?

iebamm2580 · 15-06-2018 2:09pm

Gwen Cooper wrote: »

iebamm2580 wrote: »

As part of my common knowledge, everybody has different common knowledge you know. I havethat particular knowledge from my college education.

.....you do know that common knowledge has the word 'common' in it, right? As in... it's common?

Don't take everybody's words literally. You are basically saying everybody has to have the same common knowledge, sorry no they dont.

Gwen Cooper · 15-06-2018 2:09pm

iebamm2580 wrote: »

Jesus, you dont need to have exact stats to be correct or to form an opinion that happens to be correct, how do some of ye go about the day interacting with people if you cant have an opinion unless you check google first.

Here we go! So it's your opinion. Not a common knowledge. You don't need to have the stats to form an opinion, you're correct there.

Rory28 · 15-06-2018 2:12pm

So are we just going to pick apart iebamms comments or are any of you going to address Snakes comment?

iebamm2580 · 15-06-2018 2:13pm

You dont need to have EXACT stats to be correct on a particular subject matter either thats all im saying, you seem like one of those people who takes everything literal.

Gwen Cooper · 15-06-2018 2:14pm

Rory28 wrote: »

So are we just going to pick apart iebamms comments or are any of you going to address Snakes comment?

What is there to address? We were asking for stats, he provided stats. There's nothing to argue about.

Gwen Cooper · 15-06-2018 2:16pm

iebamm2580 wrote: »

You dont need to have EXACT stats to be correct on a particular subject matter either thats all im saying, you seem like one of those people who takes everything literal.

This is my last response to you, because talking to you is worse than talking to a brick wall. You're throwing around expressions that mean different things, saying that that's what you meant. I recommend reading more books, it's supposed to help with extending your vocabulary. This should eliminate having these issues in the future - you will be able to express yourself more accurately.

Rory28 · 15-06-2018 2:16pm

Gwen Cooper wrote: »

What is there to address? We were asking for stats, he provided stats. There's nothing to argue about.

He just cleared up what iebamm said

Grayson · 15-06-2018 2:18pm

iebamm2580 wrote: »

You dont need to have EXACT stats to be correct on a particular subject matter either thats all im saying, you seem like one of those people who takes everything literal.

You kind of do.

You make a statement, it may be true it may be false, but we won't know unless it'd backed up with some kind of stat or reference.

As for saying it's common knowledge, I'm sure people could bring up thousands of examples where what was common knowledge was incorrect.

iebamm2580 · 15-06-2018 2:19pm

Gwen Cooper wrote: »

iebamm2580 wrote: »

You dont need to have EXACT stats to be correct on a particular subject matter either thats all im saying, you seem like one of those people who takes everything literal.

This is my last response to you, because talking to you is worse than talking to a brick wall. You're throwing around expressions that mean different things, saying that that's what you meant. I recommend reading more books, it's supposed to help with extending your vocabulary. This should eliminate having these issues in the future - you will be able to express yourself more accurately.

I wont go into this any further either just dont take things so literal, all people have different ways of saying things you could have asked me to clarify rather than jumping to conclusions like some posters calling me a bigot.

Captain Obvious · 15-06-2018 2:19pm

SnakePlissken wrote: »

Perhaps he's a bigot... or maybe, and this might be a stretch, but as 75% of all gang rapes and grooming gangs in the UK hail from a pool of just 3% of the overall population,

This is completely false. 75% of gang rapes are not committed from among 3% of the population and there is no legitimate source that claims that. What the stats do say is that Asian males are more likely to be involved in a particular kind of crime, that crime being grooming, yet their overall representation on the sex offenders register is proportional to the number in the country. Also, Asians make up 8%, not 3%.

https://fullfact.org/crime/what-do-we-know-about-ethnicity-people-involved-sexual-offences-against-children/

SnakePlissken wrote: »

You of course have provable statistics to verify this? Please feel free to share them with the rest of us.

I've already said what my claim is based on. You can take it or leave it. You won't find official stats either way so you can happily believe whatever racist nonsense you've made up about Ireland.

Gwen Cooper · 15-06-2018 2:22pm

iebamm2580 wrote: »

I wont go into this any further either just dont take things so literal, all people have different ways of saying things you could have asked me to clarify rather than jumping to conclusions like some posters calling me a bigot.

Sorry I couldn't resist. I promise that this is the last one

iebamm2580 · 15-06-2018 2:24pm

Grayson wrote: »

iebamm2580 wrote: »

You dont need to have EXACT stats to be correct on a particular subject matter either thats all im saying, you seem like one of those people who takes everything literal.

You kind of do.

You make a statement, it may be true it may be false, but we won't know unless it'd backed up with some kind of stat or reference.

As for saying it's common knowledge, I'm sure people could bring up thousands of examples where what was common knowledge was incorrect.

How do you have a conversation with people in real life about certain things, do you say sorry cant comment i have no stats available to me right now. Get Real and in this particular case snake provided the stats to back up my common knowledge.

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