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Navy - Notre Dame, 2012 [TOUTING IS FORBIDDEN AND WILL LEAD TO PERMABANS: #205 #628]

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,611 ✭✭✭Rick_


    Right, that's my weekend sorted for the end of August / start of September 2012. Will be booking a hotel room for the weekend and will be watching plenty of football with some mates and a few drinks afterwards! Pity it's nearly 16 months away though...!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,587 ✭✭✭gerire


    Tom_Brady wrote: »
    Hope to get to all of these games. Long way for the high school kids to travel, and while I'm sure they'll enjoy the novelty of a trip abroad, I think it's important for anyone who can to get to these games to (a) show support and appreciation of their efforts to promote the sport over here, and (b) encourage them to come more often ;)

    I think this is a slight problem with this trip. Over 2 days there is already fixed 3 high school games 1 div 3 college game all for the day before the big notre dame navy game.

    Like you if it was 2 double headers over the 2 previous days i'd go to both but both fixtures are due for 4 and 7 o clock starts. So unfortunately a choice will have to be made.
    I'll guess 2 hs games in Tallaght and the div 3 and hs game in santry.

    Either ways we'll all be in landsdown on the sat


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,308 ✭✭✭✭Dodge


    That time of year is prime GAA time, and the League of Ireland season will be in full swing.

    Grounds will be hard to come by in Dublin


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,067 ✭✭✭tallaghtoutlaws


    Dodge wrote: »
    That time of year is prime GAA time, and the League of Ireland season will be in full swing.

    Grounds will be hard to come by in Dublin

    Well the 2 suggested, 1 of them at least wont be in use Morten Stadium since Fingal are gone. And as they have given Tallaght stadium some prime notice and the FAI im sure Rovers could play away that weekend when the schedule is made.


  • Registered Users Posts: 223 ✭✭cheesehead


    Dodge wrote: »
    That time of year is prime GAA time, and the League of Ireland season will be in full swing.

    Grounds will be hard to come by in Dublin


    Just found this on a Notre Dame website:

    "PSA - if haven't already, most of city centre is already booked for the ND-Navy weekend....also looks like the All Ireland Hurling Finals are that Sunday at Croke Park.
    A few hotels and B&B's still have openings, but tour groups are blocking out much of the prime lodging."

    Looks like a busy weekend all around - should be fun. Lets hope some of those GAA fans become Irish fans for the weekend!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,308 ✭✭✭✭Dodge


    cheesehead wrote: »
    Lets hope some of those GAA fans become Irish fans for the weekend!

    LEts hope they keep away from the game so I don't have to listen to god awful comparisons...


  • Registered Users Posts: 223 ✭✭cheesehead


    This back and forth about the GAA and Notre Dame football reminds me of a story from a few years ago:

    "Rumors appeared on a Notre Dame internet site of a "secret" football recruit who hailed from the 'wilds' of Western Ireland. He was claimed to be 'as big as a house and as fast as the wind'. Being a Gaelic footballer, he was able to punt the football 'out of the stadium'. While many US colleges were looking to recruit this type of talent to their teams, this lad's heart belonged to Notre Dame". Of course, given the nature of the internet, the rumor grew legs and suddenly those on the "inside" believed this just might happen"

    Of course, it wasn't long before folks realized it was April 1st and the gig was soon up. That said Dodge, if you happen to know any strapping Gaelic players with a little speed, I'm sure Coach Kelly would be interested....


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,067 ✭✭✭tallaghtoutlaws


    cheesehead wrote: »

    Of course, it wasn't long before folks realized it was April 1st and the gig was soon up. That said Dodge, if you happen to know any strapping Gaelic players with a little speed, I'm sure Coach Kelly would be interested....

    To be honest most of them wouldn't have the ability to play in a D1 college. You might find the odd WR/DB/K/P and stretching it maybe a Linebacker. But from experience soccer players and GAA players are build wise too small. Even with speed they would be outclassed by guys with experience.


  • Registered Users Posts: 223 ✭✭cheesehead


    Tallaght - letting my cynical side rear its ugly head, I would say most D1 college football programs have a solution to that problem: HGH or just flat-out steroid cycling. (see Brian Cushing).

    That said, I agree it would take an exceptional Irish athlete to participate in D1 College football. The best athletes in the US play football (an argument could be made for basketball). The size, speed, strength of these fellows never ceases to amaze me. I remember playing basketball against Rick Mirer. Rick always came across as somewhat stiff and slow on a football field, but he was simply an amazing athlete on the basketball court compared to those of us with normal genetic make-ups.

    Now throw some PEDs into that exceptional genetic make-up.....


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,067 ✭✭✭tallaghtoutlaws


    cheesehead wrote: »
    Tallaght - letting my cynical side rear its ugly head, I would say most D1 college football programs have a solution to that problem: HGH or just flat-out steroid cycling. (see Brian Cushing).

    That said, I agree it would take an exceptional Irish athlete to participate in D1 College football. The best athletes in the US play football (an argument could be made for basketball). The size, speed, strength of these fellows never ceases to amaze me. I remember playing basketball against Rick Mirer. Rick always came across as somewhat stiff and slow on a football field, but he was simply an amazing athlete on the basketball court compared to those of us with normal genetic make-ups.

    Now throw some PEDs into that exceptional genetic make-up.....

    No doubt and whether or not the program has a solution like you mentioned ;) Applying this to guys who have never played the sport before why bother in the first when you have the right athletes throughout US high schools already. Waste of a scholarship offering it to some guy you need to bulk up and teach the game from scratch without knowing whether or not he could ever perform at a D1 level.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 13,687 ✭✭✭✭jack presley


    I hope next year's game is closer than this year's (42-7 in the 3rd)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,067 ✭✭✭tallaghtoutlaws


    Torlac wrote: »
    wtf they'd be hungout to dry for selling out and moving the date of the final. it's always the first sunday of september and the football is always the third.

    you have been seriously misinformed i suspect

    Guess the idea of moving a final isn't such a taboo after all. I told you guys what I originally heard until they settled on the Aviva but it does look like the GAA toyed with the idea of moving the final as they are once again looking at the idea.

    http://www.independent.ie/sport/gaelic-football/gaa-looking-at-later-dates-for-allireland-finals-2921031.html
    Moves are afoot to switch the All-Ireland hurling and football finals from their traditional dates to further back in September.

    Next summer is jam-packed with sports events, including the European Championships and the Olympics, and while it's unlikely that these events alone would result in the finals being rescheduled, it is possible that the staging of the Navy v Notre Dame College American football game could result in the games being pushed back from their traditional dates on the first and third Sundays in September. The American football game is set to be played on Saturday, September 1 at the Aviva Stadium and should be a sell-out.

    Over 20,000 Americans are expected to attend and it will be available to a worldwide TV audience. Notre Dame officials say it will be the largest ever invasion of Ireland by US sports fans. The fact that there are five Sundays in September 2012, as opposed to the usual four, would also make rescheduling the games more realistic.

    And changing the dates of the All-Ireland finals is not unprecedented -- in 2006 the GAA brought the finals forward by a week to avoid a clash with the Ryder Cup.

    It's also possible that the proposed change could be part of a broader picture to regularise the GAA calendar and ensure that the club championships are played before the weather turns bad.

    The proposed date change comes just days after the Clare and Kilkenny hurling finals were played in impossible conditions and the Galway hurling semi-final was abandoned at half-time as a result of the weather.

    Last month, Dublin chairman Andy Kettle said he believed the Dublin County Board will bring a motion to next year's GAA Annual Congress calling for the All-Ireland hurling and football finals to be played in August.

    Such a proposal would help to avoid a repeat of this year's disastrous Dublin club championship which saw a backlog of games in the county and forced a rescheduling of the Leinster football and hurling championships.

    The Leinster football final will now not take place until December 18, just one week before Christmas. When contacted yesterday, a spokesperson for the GAA was unable to confirm the proposals. Elsewhere, Cork boss Jimmy Barry-Murphy has chosen veteran Donal Og Cusack to captain the hurlers for the coming season. Barry-Murphy has already shown faith in the old guard by recalling Sean Og O hAilpin to the panel.

    "Shane O'Neill has stepped down as he suffered a number of injuries over the past 12 months," said the Cork manager yesterday, "and now wishes to concentrate on his own game. As a result, the management appoint Donal Og as captain, with Patrick Horgan vice-captain."


    Also I heard today the tickets are on sale this month the dearest ticket being €70.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 28,710 ✭✭✭✭Paully D


    Definitely going to try and get to this. It would be great to see a game live.

    I presume getting a ticket will just be a Ticketmaster refreshing job on the day they go on sale and hoping for the best?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,739 ✭✭✭johnmcdnl


    would love if the game got moved to Croker - compeltely forgot about the American's who'll be attending this game (well going by the quoted text above)... that'll leave about 25-30 thousand tickets to Irish fans for ...

    don't want it to turn into a ticketmaster F5ing competition because with my **** internet I never win :(

    just hope on the day tickets come out only the hard core of us will have heard about it and can get in before everyone else starts trying to look for tickets

    really would love to get to it because I've never been at a game of football before so.. always wanted to go to one but just can't afford the trip over to Wembley


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,308 ✭✭✭✭Dodge


    Guess the idea of moving a final isn't such a taboo after all. I told you guys what I originally heard until they settled on the Aviva but it does look like the GAA toyed with the idea of moving the final as they are once again looking at the idea
    They're not looking to stage the game, just not have it clash with their own (in terms of media etc)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,416 ✭✭✭FreeOSCAR


    johnmcdnl wrote: »
    would love if the game got moved to Croker - compeltely forgot about the American's who'll be attending this game (well going by the quoted text above)... that'll leave about 25-30 thousand tickets to Irish fans for ...

    don't want it to turn into a ticketmaster F5ing competition because with my **** internet I never win :(

    just hope on the day tickets come out only the hard core of us will have heard about it and can get in before everyone else starts trying to look for tickets

    really would love to get to it because I've never been at a game of football before so.. always wanted to go to one but just can't afford the trip over to Wembley

    I can't really see the demand being that big on the European side and quite frankly 50000 is probably more than enough to host this game.

    If it was in Croker it probably wouldn't even sell out. I think whoever wants one will get a ticket.

    Hopefully they are doing some sort of package deal where you can get the Saturday ticket along with the expected FNL games to take place.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,067 ✭✭✭tallaghtoutlaws


    Dodge wrote: »
    Guess the idea of moving a final isn't such a taboo after all. I told you guys what I originally heard until they settled on the Aviva but it does look like the GAA toyed with the idea of moving the final as they are once again looking at the idea
    They're not looking to stage the game, just not have it clash with their own (in terms of media etc)

    You missed my point. A few including you told me it would never happen and that they would never have discussed it originally. I stand by what i was told and now the fact they are looking into moving it for other reasons suggests it might well have been discussed originally. If you ask me the GAA fooked up on this one. The could have made a bucket load of money but said no to the idea and now they are thinking of moving their finals to save money. Madness.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,067 ✭✭✭tallaghtoutlaws


    FreeOSCAR wrote: »
    I can't really see the demand being that big on the European side and quite frankly 50000 is probably more than enough to host this game.

    If it was in Croker it probably wouldn't even sell out. I think whoever wants one will get a ticket.

    Hopefully they are doing some sort of package deal where you can get the Saturday ticket along with the expected FNL games to take place.

    It wont be a sell out the day the tickets are released but you are underestimating the amount of Notre Dame and Navy Alum around Europe. The game will sell out before the day comes around around.

    I agree though it shouldn't be a problem getting a ticket on the day they are released. I doubt there will be packages though although it would be awesome as the main game has different organisers to the other ones as far as a I know. I doubt the other games will be expensive anyways.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,308 ✭✭✭✭Dodge


    You missed my point. A few including you told me it would never happen and that they would never have discussed it originally.
    I most certainly did not say that.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,067 ✭✭✭tallaghtoutlaws


    Dodge wrote: »
    I most certainly did not say that.

    My apologies saw the other dudes avatar I thought it was you.


  • Registered Users Posts: 3,339 ✭✭✭me-skywalker


    Imagine the scanario if say Tyrone and Kerry are in the final. The amoutn of people looking to come down to stay the night along with the increased Americans tourists will push the city to breaking point. If both games are on the same day and it'll be a logistical nightmare.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,067 ✭✭✭tallaghtoutlaws


    Imagine the scanario if say Tyrone and Kerry are in the final. The amoutn of people looking to come down to stay the night along with the increased Americans tourists will push the city to breaking point. If both games are on the same day and it'll be a logistical nightmare.

    The NCAA game is on the Saturday and the All Ireland would be on the Sunday. I think had they both been on the same day the Gardai would have objected alone. Their force would have been too stretched to cover both.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 28,710 ✭✭✭✭Paully D


    Any recommendations for hotels or b and b's around the area? I think I'll book one up in the next couple of weeks to be safe.


  • Registered Users Posts: 236 ✭✭SAINTRON


    I'd say it wont even go close to a sell out.....4o,ooo max. Mind you if e7o is the top priced ticket, I may be wrong on that....;)
    Luckily its not at Croker, as the great stadium just doesnt lend itself to gridiron. Bears/Steelers there a few years back was a non event from a spectating point of view.

    Go IRISH....:p


  • Registered Users Posts: 487 ✭✭bobby wade


    hmmm if tickets go on sale this month be handy to know which teams on which sideline for ticket buying purposes


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 209 ✭✭Torlac


    You missed my point. A few including you told me it would never happen and that they would never have discussed it originally. I stand by what i was told and now the fact they are looking into moving it for other reasons suggests it might well have been discussed originally. If you ask me the GAA fooked up on this one. The could have made a bucket load of money but said no to the idea and now they are thinking of moving their finals to save money. Madness.

    no youve missed the point. What i said was that there was no way the dates would be changed so that Croker could be used for another sport. The article you quote refers to events clashing which is what happened with the Ryder cup before. I think you need to let go of this notion that it might well have been discussed. Old news.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 13,687 ✭✭✭✭jack presley




  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,067 ✭✭✭tallaghtoutlaws


    According to the Aviva Stadium Website the tickets go on sale in the spring.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 13,687 ✭✭✭✭jack presley


    According to the Aviva Stadium Website the tickets go on sale in the spring.

    Despite what others have said, I expect this to sell out quickly. There'll be at least 20-25k over from the states and I'm sure a lot of college football fans will travel over from Britain as well.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,067 ✭✭✭tallaghtoutlaws


    Despite what others have said, I expect this to sell out quickly. There'll be at least 20-25k over from the states and I'm sure a lot of college football fans will travel over from Britain as well.

    I agree with you. Between the 20k Navy/ND Fans/Alumni already traveling from the US added with the other High Schools and College coming over who will surely go which is easily another 1000 at least and then all the Irish American Football league folk added with their friends and family, everyone on here and all the other Irish fans and Americans living in Europe and then UK fans and other Europeans who are football mad. This will easily sell out.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,096 ✭✭✭An Citeog


    Guess the idea of moving a final isn't such a taboo after all. I told you guys what I originally heard until they settled on the Aviva but it does look like the GAA toyed with the idea of moving the final as they are once again looking at the idea.

    http://www.independent.ie/sport/gaelic-football/gaa-looking-at-later-dates-for-allireland-finals-2921031.html

    Also I heard today the tickets are on sale this month the dearest ticket being €70.
    You missed my point. A few including you told me it would never happen and that they would never have discussed it originally. I stand by what i was told and now the fact they are looking into moving it for other reasons suggests it might well have been discussed originally. If you ask me the GAA fooked up on this one. The could have made a bucket load of money but said no to the idea and now they are thinking of moving their finals to save money. Madness.

    The finals aren't being moved. They'll be played on the 2nd and 4th Sundays of September which is in accordance with the GAA's official guide, due to there being 5 Sundays in September in 2012.

    6.31 All-Ireland Finals
    The All Ireland Senior Finals shall be played in Croke
    Park: the Football Final shall be played on the penultimate
    Sunday in September and the Hurling Final shall be
    played two weeks previous. In exceptional circumstances,
    the Central Council may make other arrangements.


    As for the article linked above, there's not exactly much in it. Every GAA member in the country can bring a motion to their club which is in turn brought to the county board. The county board will then vote on whether or not to bring this to central congress where it will be ultimately passed or rejected. The reason the DCB are interested in shortening the intercounty season is so that club players can play meaningful games in the summer months instead of trying to squeeze everything into September/October.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,067 ✭✭✭tallaghtoutlaws


    An Citeog wrote: »
    The finals aren't being moved. They'll be played on the 2nd and 4th Sundays of September which is in accordance with the GAA's official guide, due to there being 5 Sundays in September in 2012.

    6.31 All-Ireland Finals
    The All Ireland Senior Finals shall be played in Croke
    Park: the Football Final shall be played on the penultimate
    Sunday in September and the Hurling Final shall be
    played two weeks previous. In exceptional circumstances,
    the Central Council may make other arrangements.


    As for the article linked above, there's not exactly much in it. Every GAA member in the country can bring a motion to their club which is in turn brought to the county board. The county board will then vote on whether or not to bring this to central congress where it will be ultimately passed or rejected. The reason the DCB are interested in shortening the intercounty season is so that club players can play meaningful games in the summer months instead of trying to squeeze everything into September/October.

    You missed the point and to be honest I really don't care if the moving of the finals is actually happening in the end etc etc. This isn't the GAA forum.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,067 ✭✭✭tallaghtoutlaws


    According to the Ticketmaster Website:

    PRESALE

    Start: Wed 14/12/11, 10:00
    End: Sun 22/08/10, 11:59

    http://www.ticketmaster.ie/event/18004788A7926400?artistid=5028920&majorcatid=10004&minorcatid=102


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 13,687 ✭✭✭✭jack presley


    According to the Ticketmaster Website:

    PRESALE

    Start: Wed 14/12/11, 10:00
    End: Sun 22/08/10, 11:59

    http://www.ticketmaster.ie/event/18004788A7926400?artistid=5028920&majorcatid=10004&minorcatid=102

    How will the presale work? Anyone know how to get a code or something?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,067 ✭✭✭tallaghtoutlaws


    How will the presale work? Anyone know how to get a code or something?

    No idea if I find out more I will you guys know. Im guessing this pre-sale works off codes or something.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 13,224 ✭✭✭✭SantryRed


    Presale dates make no sense. Price range of 35-90 euro is pretty reasonable too I think.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,308 ✭✭✭✭Dodge


    YOu'll need a password alright. Now where to find one
    You can purchase any combination of adult and child ticket in the presale providing that you do not exceed the ticket limit of 4. For example 2 adults and 2 child tickets or 1 adult and 3 child tickets.
    Please enter your password in both password fields below when purchasing both Adult and Child Tickets.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,879 ✭✭✭D3PO


    how the hell does that work. The presale end date is already gone ...... :confused:

    Im smashed what a ****e time to bring out the tickets no way I can buy em right now or before the end of xmas. FFS If I miss out on a ticker I will be raging.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,308 ✭✭✭✭Dodge


    D3PO wrote: »
    I will be raging.

    Sounds like you're raging anyway :D


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 846 ✭✭✭TheFullDuck


    any more info on the presale for these?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,225 ✭✭✭Chardee MacDennis


    it wouldn't surprise me if this is some closed presale to Alumni and Travel Agents, the Sunday Times was saying 25,000 yanks are coming over...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,308 ✭✭✭✭Dodge


    it wouldn't surprise me if this is some closed presale to Alumni and Travel Agents, the Sunday Times was saying 25,000 yanks are coming over...

    That wouldn't be on ticketmaster Ireland though. The 'travel packages' have been on sale for well over a year now.

    it could've simply been ticketmaster adding the event from a template and not changing the dates (maybe explained by the 2010 deadline)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 46,295 ✭✭✭✭Mitch Connor


    I think if you are an Aviva member (House, Car, Health insurance) you can set up an Aviva stadium account - which gives you the pre-sale password stuff.


  • Registered Users Posts: 3,339 ✭✭✭me-skywalker


    Makes sense, the Alumni get the codes distriubuted amongst themselves, Aviva sells a batch to Irish Tourism Board.... can anybody confirm when us peons will get tickets?

    aarrgghhh patience!!!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,144 ✭✭✭Benny Cake


    I think if you are an Aviva member (House, Car, Health insurance) you can set up an Aviva stadium account - which gives you the pre-sale password stuff.

    Can anybody confirm if this is the case? The wife is with Aviva, would be great to make use of it for something other than doctors bills!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,067 ✭✭✭tallaghtoutlaws


    Benny Cake wrote: »
    Can anybody confirm if this is the case? The wife is with Aviva, would be great to make use of it for something other than doctors bills!

    Yeah I would like to know how this is done also as I am with Aviva.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,144 ✭✭✭Benny Cake


    Yeah I would like to know how this is done also as I am with Aviva.

    I rang Aviva there to check this out and having first confused the daylights out of the young wan on the other end of the phone, I was eventually told no such "priority booking" scheme exists for Aviva members...

    Back to the drawing board :(


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 46,295 ✭✭✭✭Mitch Connor


    Benny Cake wrote: »
    I rang Aviva there to check this out and having first confused the daylights out of the young wan on the other end of the phone, I was eventually told no such "priority booking" scheme exists for Aviva members...

    Back to the drawing board :(

    How is it companies can be so thick?

    https://stadium.aviva.ie/pages/aviva_advantages


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,144 ✭✭✭Benny Cake


    How is it companies can be so thick?

    https://stadium.aviva.ie/pages/aviva_advantages

    Some shower of dopes, the person I spoke to was adamant this wasn't the case!! Thanks for the heads-up anyway, I'll get back onto them...


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